Hi, sorry for the late reply...
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 01:44:05PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
There's also a couple more changes/updates that I'd like to make
in/around jigdo soon-ish:
* Move over to using bzip2 rather than gzip for our template files.
That should be simple enough now
Am 2007-04-24 23:14:15, schrieb Sven Mueller:
CDs DVDs
April 2008: 24 4
April 2009: 27 4 Lenny?
April 2010: 31 5
April 2011: 35 6 Lenny+1?
April 2012: 40 6
April 2013: 45 7 Lenny+2?
April 2014: 51 8
April 2015: 57 9 Lenny+3?
April 2016: 64 10
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:42, Michael Loftis wrote:
It's becoming prohibitively expensive for mirrors to maintain a debian
mirror because of the huge amount of storage required by all of the
CD/DVD images. This has been
On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside
geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent
won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format
used almost exclusively for linux
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside geek-ville.
Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent won. Get over it and
stop making things awkward with a download format used almost exclusively for
linux
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:02:19PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
Bittorrent doesn't really solve anything compared to serving ISOs
over http, except for the inital rush of the most popular files.
I agree (naturally;-)
In contrast to bt, jigdo is designed for the case that lots of HTTP/FTP
Hi Richard,
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:29:47PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
In contrast to bt, jigdo is designed for the case that lots of HTTP/FTP
servers around the world already hold the data, it just needs to be puzzled
together in the right way.
/me promises to re-start jigdoofus soon.
Andrew Saunders wrote:
On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside
geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent
won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format
used almost
Dirk Neumann wrote on 21/04/2007 09:36:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:59:35 -0700
Matt Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the folks that these images are for, the ones far off the internet, I
have
no idea how many CD images lenny will require,
let's remember: Potato required 3 CDs, Woody 7 and
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than
when they use jigdo. For example the ftp.fr.debian.org admin explained me
that they were limited by the disk seek and not by the bandwith used by
the users.
Right and wrong. I am not the admin of
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:59:35 -0700
Matt Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi debian-cd,
With etch having 20+ CDROM sized ISOs per arch (plus businesscard, netinst,
kde, and xfcd) I am beginning to be reminded of when I first started using
Linux and installing required a huge stack of
Am 2007-04-17 11:42:17, schrieb Michael Loftis:
It's becoming prohibitively expensive for mirrors to maintain a debian
mirror because of the huge amount of storage required by all of the CD/DVD
images. This has been brought up before by mirror maintainers.
IMH(umble)O Jigdo should be
Am 2007-04-17 00:59:35, schrieb Matt Taggart:
DVD drives have been out for long enough that new drives are cheap, and you
can probably find a used drive for only a few bucks (or free) if you don't
want to buy new (even DVD writers are getting affordable). They are available
in
Hello Joey,
Am 2007-04-18 01:02:11, schrieb Joey Hess:
I've been looking around the CD vendors. Ideally, I'd like to buy:
* netinst (in an actual mini-iso form factor)
* businesscard (in an actual businesscard form factor)
* multiarch DVD
* multiarch CD
I have not been able to find any
Hi,
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:42, Michael Loftis wrote:
It's becoming prohibitively expensive for mirrors to maintain a debian
mirror because of the huge amount of storage required by all of the
CD/DVD images. This has been brought up before by
Hi!
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070418 07:02]:
IMHO we need to do something to get vendors to default to selling the CDs
that are useful, and de-emphasise the great big vanity packs that are
just a waste of plastic for most users.
Maybe we need a debian-vendor-announce list similar to
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:02:07AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than
when they use jigdo. For example the ftp.fr.debian.org admin explained me
that they were limited by the disk seek and not by the bandwith used by
the
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Richard Atterer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:02:07AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than
when they use jigdo. For example the ftp.fr.debian.org admin explained me
that they were limited by the disk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 03:10:52PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Richard Atterer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:02:07AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than
when they use jigdo. For example the
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 02:47:30PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Hmmm. I should really finish off jigdoofus - the fuse-based filesystem
that can build ISO images on the fly from jigdo files and a
mirror. Then people will have the option to choose between disk space
for storing the ISOs and
Matt Taggart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 17 April 2007 00:59:
So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and
dropping the rest?
It's too early to not have all the distribution in CDs. The main
mirrors at least (say the national ones) must have them all.
The other mirrors
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 22:23, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
Matt Taggart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 17 April 2007 00:59:
So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and
dropping the rest?
It's too early to not have all the distribution in CDs. The main
mirrors at least
Mattias Wadenstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 18 April 2007 15:10:
Well, a jigdo-build against our debian mirror will use slightly more
bandwidth and much more resources than a iso download. Of course, a jigdo
download using another debian mirror would be a big win.
jigdo is mostly useful
Richard Atterer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 18 April 2007 11:30:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:02:07AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than
when they use jigdo. For example the ftp.fr.debian.org admin explained me
that they
Hi debian-cd,
With etch having 20+ CDROM sized ISOs per arch (plus businesscard, netinst,
kde, and xfcd) I am beginning to be reminded of when I first started using
Linux and installing required a huge stack of floppies :)
Now most people don't require the full set of CDs to install, I think
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:59, Matt Taggart wrote:
*
So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and
dropping the rest? I was thinking 3-4, but it might be cool to keep the
first DVD's worth of packages, so maybe that would be 7 CDs?
Hmm, we have the kde/xfce
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:52:29PM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:59, Matt Taggart wrote:
*
So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and
dropping the rest? I was thinking 3-4, but it might be cool to keep the
first DVD's worth of
--On April 17, 2007 9:52:29 PM +1200 Philip Charles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:59, Matt Taggart wrote:
*
So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and
dropping the rest? I was thinking 3-4, but it might be cool to keep the
first
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:42, Michael Loftis wrote:
It's becoming prohibitively expensive for mirrors to maintain a debian
mirror because of the huge amount of storage required by all of the
CD/DVD images. This has been brought up before by mirror maintainers.
IMH(umble)O Jigdo should be
I've been looking around the CD vendors. Ideally, I'd like to buy:
* netinst (in an actual mini-iso form factor)
* businesscard (in an actual businesscard form factor)
* multiarch DVD
* multiarch CD
I have not been able to find any of these for etch. Haven't checked
_all_ the US vendors yet, but
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