Re: default file perms

1997-05-29 Thread Philip Hands
b4f978d71d6dd8d4558632b5a185f28d 37760 root root 755 r/bin/ls (with type being 'r' for regular files, 'b', 'c', 'p', 'l' for (respectively) block and character devices, pipes, links). It might be worth adding a type for control files, to make it easier to spot the difference

Re: cvs-buildpackage: CVS trees and automated builds

1997-05-29 Thread jwalther
Does this mean that debian is finally going to have a make world, and also a CVS scheme just like the bsd's? Finally! Woohoo!!! Heres to Debian, the finest Linux distribution : Now, if only we could configure the kernel at boot time like in bsd Heck, with the .deb format, this is gonna

Re: libc5 FAQ

1997-05-29 Thread srivasta
Hi, My contention is: if we are talking about a program that needs kernel headers, and can't be satisfied with the headers included in the libc5-dev package (which corresponds to 2.0.29, or something), that means we are talking about a program that needs some very specific kernel data

Re: libc5 FAQ

1997-05-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Mixing user domain and kernel domain stuff is a really bad Idea, but you don't have to take just my word for it. I already have posted the FAQ once today, and I don't want to do so again: Please read the libc FAQ (or email me and I will send you a copy). The bottom line

Re: default file perms

1997-05-29 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: |--==_Exmh_263623679P |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | | |dpkg-cert already does something like this. Klee is going to fold the |capabilities of dpkg-cert into dpkg, so I think a solution is on |the horizon. :-) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! If you

Re: default file perms

1997-05-29 Thread Mark Baker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! If you are allready at it - it would be nice to be able to find files which do NOT come from any package. This will make it much easier for the person in charge to find sniffer log files and

Re: base-files does not create /usr/local directories

1997-05-29 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Brian White wrote: In fact, as part of the Deity project, I'd like to do something a little more elaborate. I'd like to be able to remove or change any arbitrary path. (This was originally Behan's idea, actually.) Ok, then I'd suggest I change the proposed

Re: libc5 FAQ

1997-05-29 Thread Nils Rennebarth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 28 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The bottom line is: if a program needs kernel header, the chances are that the program, or the design of the program, is broken. I must second Andreas here. The ISDN stuff is an exception. There is active

Re: Sysvinit and System.map (Was: dangling symlink System.map)

1997-05-29 Thread Michael Neuffer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 28 May 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, psupdate is the only program I can think about using System.map. Are there any other ? klogd ksymoops Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-29 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Welton) wrote on 28.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While it would be nice if new developers took over some orphaned packages (I plan to), unloading a package on someone that they have no interest in, is, IMHO, a bad thing. If they are personally interested in it, they

Re: policy about putting packages into frozen ?

1997-05-29 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: hy. what is the policy about putting packages into frozen ? AFAIk only bug fixes are allowed. my problem is the isdn package : the new version was released (beta1) this week, and it was tested a long time (public cvs tree). now it has a

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. I need a shared CVS repository for

Re: Conflict between Packages file and actual files

1997-05-29 Thread Guy Maor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: I've since seen that ftp.debian.org obviously mirrors somewhere around 19:40-20:50, local time for master, while the maintenance scripts run somewhere in the 11:50-13:40 range, again local time for master. ftp mirrors twice a day at 9 and 21

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the list of debian packges needing a new maintainer is growing all the time. so - what about removeing some packages, if they are no longer maintained, or (better) moving them into section contrib (or a new section orphaned ?). There is a

Re: libc5 FAQ

1997-05-29 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, I must second Andreas here. The ISDN stuff is an exception. Oh come on, there are millions of exceptions. The KErnel Development has never stoped and will never stop. There is a lot of redesign goiug on: new routing, new address families, new arp, new console, new device drivers, new

RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-05-29 Thread Christian Schwarz
Hi folks! As I'm working on a new Policy I'm handling the request to include a policy for correct architecture spec strings. However, I've discovered _several_ threads here on debian-devel without any (obvious) results. Is it correct, that we are currently working on ports to the following

Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-29 Thread Brian White
We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only code under it is the Deity project. I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to do distributed development this way. I need a shared CVS repository for boot-floppies. Especially people who

Re: Consultants list for Debian GNU/Linux

1997-05-29 Thread Behan Webster
Behan Webster wrote: I've just volunteered to maintain the list of consultants wanting to offer paid support to people running debian systems. I am unaware of anyone else currently doing so. If someone is already doing such, please contact me. Once this list is assembled, it will be put

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some problems arise: Should this CVS

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-29 Thread Milan Zamazal
DF == David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :: Then I have a Print key, Scroll-Lock, and Pause. All :: three keys don't have an effect in my X configuration--on the :: console Scroll-Lock starts/stops terminal output, just like :: C-S and C-Q. Is there any useful meaning for Print

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Rudolph writes: Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Jim Pick
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? Some problems arise: Should

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
E.g. boot-floppies. I regularly receive patches from the people doing the ports to other architectures. If they could merge them into the CVS repository, they needn't wait until I released a new version. What provision do you suggest for code-review? It's important for things like

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Paul Bame
= Should this CVS repository be mandatory, i.e. does every Debian = package have to be there? A brief word of warning... (I tried CVS on dpkg a while back) The natural CVS model is to name the directory for the package, for example .../dpkg/ and relegate the version numbers to tags. At least

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: E.g. boot-floppies. I regularly receive patches from the people doing the ports to other architectures. If they could merge them into the CVS repository, they needn't wait until I released a new version. What provision do you suggest for

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. The way we are currently doing it here (at Pixar) is that nobody checks in an un-reviewed

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-29 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Mark Baker wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the other solution is to have a small utility that stores these values, can change them and gives the values to the scripts. The third solution, which I prefer is a utility

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Sven Rudolph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. (And the CVS commit messages are sent to this

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Rudolph writes: Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. This mailing list could be used as target for the bug reports

anyone packaged/ing vice (comodore emulator) ?

1997-05-29 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hy. i read the announcement, compiled it for local use and it's great. has anyone packaged vice, or is doing this ? if not, i will do it. regards, andreas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-05-29 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Thu, 29 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: Is it correct, that we are currently working on ports to the following platforms (the abbrevs should be the ones that dpkg is using in the file names): i386 alpha arm m68k powerpc sparc Are these correct

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Bruce Perens
There actually is a packages.debian.org domain aliased on master, I had problems making it work because darned qmail won't parse a full RFC822 address on the command line (it wants you to remove the comments). If someone wants to spend some time on a simple mailer hack, you can make this work.

Man-Db and Man both in Frozen???

1997-05-29 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, There appears to be a package man in frozen that shouldn't be there since man-db is the new name for that package. Somebody needs to take it out; otherwise, it is confusing to users. John -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-29 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
On a related note, games. Games are important. Please please please dont reject someone who wants to package up a game. Thats one of the things I like about debian, it has so many games. I first got mirrormagic working under debian... And I hope to see abuse.svga working again too now that he

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Paul Bame
= Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The = maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this = package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. = = The way we are currently doing it here (at Pixar) is that nobody checks = in an

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-29 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 24, Tom Lees wrote The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the variables within the scripts - it's faster, it is more backwards compatible with

Re: Man-Db and Man both in Frozen???

1997-05-29 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
John Goerzen wrote: Hi, There appears to be a package man in frozen that shouldn't be there since man-db is the new name for that package. Somebody needs to take it out; otherwise, it is confusing to users. John Where is it? I've just looked both in ftp.debian.org and in master, but

Re: RFC: Policy for arch specs

1997-05-29 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Christian Schwarz wrote: Next step: GNU's configure utility. I thought that we had agreed on using i386-unknown-linux (and similar for the other architectures), but then I had just discovered that GCC uses /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/