ITP: vcdimager -- A VCD image mastering and ripping tool.

2001-04-28 Thread Viral
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2001-04-28 Severity: wishlist This is GNU VCDImager, a VideoCD image mastering tool. This package contains GNU VCDRip, a VideoCD ripping tool, for ripping mpeg streams from VideoCD images and showing VideoCD information about the image. The license is GPL

Re: Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 28 April 2001 00:08, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:48:52PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > See http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/hardware/46g.png for some quick > > benchmark results showing the differences between a single IDE > > drive, two drives on separate chann

Re: ITP ghfaxviewer

2001-04-28 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
Hi, (I think the confirmation request for list subscription is buggy, I thought I actually was subscribed to this list since yesterday...) Why I sent the bug report to this list ? Because in the french version of the developer reference (/usr/share/doc/developers-reference), it is written: "Su

Conflict: libgb

2001-04-28 Thread Ben Burton
Hi. I am currently packaging Gnome Basic (ITP: #94328) which wishes to install /usr/lib/libgb.* and /usr/lib/libgbrun.*. After searching through the debian package directory it appears that package sgb also installs /usr/lib/libgb.*. Gnome Basic is unrelated to package sgb and the libraries hav

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > This is not correct. All packages have to follow current policy: if they > miss out on most issues, that's a bug, if they miss some other issues, > that's an RC bug. It doesn't matter what Standards-Version they claim. Maybe dinstall should include a st

Re: Boost and Loki

2001-04-28 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:37:20PM -0500, David A. Greene wrote: > Since we're on the topic of C++ libraries, has anyone looked > at Loki from Andrei Alexandrescu? It is described in > "Modern C++ Design" from AW, but the website > (www.moderncppdesign.com)is currently down. I'm not sure of > the

license for a mix of free sw + propritary stuff

2001-04-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hello, I would like to package a set of programs, that are linked against a propritary library. The author has signed a NDA in order to develop the library (see below) and is not allowed to publish the source. Though, he placed the frontend tools unto GPL, and is willing to change the license to a

new package attribute. e.g. Ghost:

2001-04-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hi, this is a request for comments. My idea: We could mark the packages in a special way, using a "ghost" line: Ghost: # # = 1 Fully functional package # =2 Task package # = 3 A real ghost, only existing to fulfil dependencies. Not to be shown in dselect/apt until the user explicitely wishes i

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Colin Walters | It doesn't seem very reasonable to expect the Debian packagers to try | to fix upstream bugs like this. It is still a bug to break that way. IMNSHO. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marcus! You wrote: > > > > A source package may declare a dependency or a conflict > > > > on a binary package. > Some packages don't build depend on any beside the build essentials. You > certainly need to make provision for them, so a simple s/may/must/ won't > work. Then what

Local Sid/unstable repository.

2001-04-28 Thread David B . Harris
Hello there :) I'm looking to set up a local Debian mirror(for private LAN only, until we get more bandwidth), but only of the Sid/i386 distribution. Now, anonftpsync seems pretty good, but I can't get it to work properly. I've gotten it to --exclude the proper things, but, unfortunatly, dists/sid/

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:31:02PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: > > This is not correct. All packages have to follow current policy: if they > > miss out on most issues, that's a bug, if they miss some other issues, > > that's an RC bug. It doesn't matter wha

ITP: hasciicam -- ascii for the masses

2001-04-28 Thread Christian Surchi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Hasciicam makes it possible to have live ascii video on the web. It captures video from a tv card and renders it into ascii, formatting the output into an html page with a refresh tag or in a live ascii window or in a simple text file as well, giving the possiblity

Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 11)

2001-04-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.4 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. The most important change in this release are the new kernel-* packages (as always made by Herbert Xu) that include an important netfilter security fix. Changes

Re: porting questions

2001-04-28 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 08:58:12PM -0700, Joshua Haberman wrote: > > Problem #2: even on vore in the sid chroot, my package Build-depends on > many packages that are not installed, and I of course can't install them > as a normal user. > FYI, vore runs sid/unstable on it's main root. So you can

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread Steve Greenland
Omn 27-Apr-01, 15:46 (CDT), Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not only me. It's just that the Gnome Libaries install a bunch of > packages and also need quite some disk-space. Therefor I and I think > some other people too would like to know before if the software > depends on that bunch

Re: simple g++-3.0 problem

2001-04-28 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Apr-01, 14:22 (CDT), Ulrich Eckhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2001 20:49, Dale E Martin wrote: > > #include > > use > #include > Doesn't which of these you use depend on whether you want the old (AT&T?) iostreams library or the C++ standardized version? Agreed,

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-28 Thread Christian Marillat
"TB" == Thomas Bushnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] TB> This is a *USER* feature, not an API. No programming is going on, not TB> even editing text files with obscure hidden customization thingies, TB> just straightforward use of a straightforward feature. This is a bug fix from upst

why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Since about a month, seems to me that I have to use dig and I feel this situation as an imposition. First, the nslookup start message says that nslookup is 'deprecated' and tell me to use dig or host instead. If I don't want to see this message I have to use -silent option ... OK, but who have cho

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of the > other two tools ? It's authors. > Why we have to remove nsllokup from debian ? You are free to take an old bind source and create a nslookup package based on those. Wichert. -- ___

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread David N. Welton
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Previously Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of > > the other two tools ? > It's authors. > > Why we have to remove nsllokup from debian ? > You are free to take an old bind source and crea

Wich is the status of the -ldb problem?

2001-04-28 Thread C.
Hello! I have experienced the problem of 'libdb not found' trying to compile seahorse. After looking in BTS I have some questions This problem appears when gnome-config --libs is invoked with libglade (at least) parameter, as it prints out -ldb instead of -ldb-3, wich is the library on wich l

Re: Wich is the status of the -ldb problem?

2001-04-28 Thread Christian Marillat
"JCGS" == Jose C Garcia Sogo writes: JCGS> Hello! Hi, [...] JCGS> Reading a little more, it seems like libglade must be built against JCGS> new libgnome, and after doing this, libgnome-dev will be fixed, is this JCGS> right? But, I think this doesn't mean that the libgnome-dev bug can

Re: Base Bug Week, 30th April to 6th May

2001-04-28 Thread xsdg
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:52:11PM +1000, Brian May wrote: ::snip? snip!:: > What is the easiest way to upgrade only base packages without > upgrading anything else (unless required?). > > Ideally I would like to upgrade/install anything section==base or > priority==required, but not anything else

build-dependencies inconsistent in testing

2001-04-28 Thread Stephen Zander
Consider this: pooh% apt-cache show build-essential dpkg-dev Package: build-essential Priority: optional Section: devel Installed-Size: 48 Maintainer: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 4 Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc, g++, make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.1.19) Fi

configuring ISA PnP devices with kernel 2.4 & isapnptools

2001-04-28 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi, I've recently adopted the isapnptools package. This package is most useful for 2.2 kernels. However, one of the bug reports (#71007) has a proposal for making it useful with the 2.4 kernel. In kernel 2.4, ISA PnP configuration can be done using the kernel. When enabled, this kernel option p

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread xsdg
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:12:59PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Maybe because they're bloated, take huge gobs of memory, and are > > designed only to emulate the mistakes and misdesign of a certain OS > > from Redmond? > I too agree that Linux window managers and session managers should not

Re: analysis of package dependencies

2001-04-28 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > deborphan might be tweakable to do this. pkg-order could also be useful. > Apt 0.5 now has a python interface, and possibly a perl interface, so > that's probably usable too. Deborphan is nearly perfect for this. Right now, it just keeps track of whether a package was insta

Re: VA Debian banner old

2001-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 07:08:34PM -0500, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: > The Debian banner that is shown on VA / SourceForge or whatever pages, > still says Debian 2.1. Don't we have something more up to date? > > http://www2.valinux.com/images/ads/2.gif Of course we do. It's them who don't. :| See

Re: Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee?

2001-04-28 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herbert Xu) writes: > > kernel where all options were compiled into separate modules so simply > > choosing the right modules constructs the optimal kernel. > > Guess what, that's how the current 2.4 kernel images are constructed. Well, not really. All of the drivers and othe

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:58:44PM +, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > > Now I agree that there's lots of bloat in Gnome, but I have to disagree > > with you about Glib. [...] > > Well, I've heard these arguments a lot and I agree with them to some extent. > I > [...] > I think in principle glib may b

Re: New X problems...

2001-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:19:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > David, from your comments below, you seem to be using kpkg, while I use > make. I got my 2.2.19 source from ftp.kernel.org, and, after a bit of > unusual bother untarring it, did 'make mrproper ; make menuconfig'. At > this point I had

Re: analysis of package dependencies

2001-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > deborphan might be tweakable to do this. pkg-order could also be useful. > > Apt 0.5 now has a python interface, and possibly a perl interface, so > > that's probably usable too. > > Deborphan is nearly perfect

Solution found, was Re: New X problems...

2001-04-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
Well, since I usually want to know what's happening (as well as having a functioning system) I did some investigating last night, and found that, after 'make mrproper', menuconfig shows that the NFS file system is enabled by default. With this option enabled, the errors occur in X. Without this opt

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
Jerome wrote: > Listen, I've packaged it in order to make available in debs for > people willing to test it. Now, don't blame me about those gnome > dependencies since [...] > Please note that did not ITPed it since I'm not sure people except > from me are interested in such a browser. And It does

Re: configuring ISA PnP devices with kernel 2.4 & isapnptools

2001-04-28 Thread Herbert Xu
Steve M. Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To complicate matters, the configuration logic may be compiled as a > kernel module, meaning the module needs to be loaded before cards > may be configured. However, the modutils init script runs AFTER > isapnptools. One suggestion is to simply load

Re: configuring ISA PnP devices with kernel 2.4 & isapnptools

2001-04-28 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:27:20AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Steve M. Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To complicate matters, the configuration logic may be compiled as a > > kernel module, meaning the module needs to be loaded before cards > > may be configured. However, the modutils i

Re: configuring ISA PnP devices with kernel 2.4 & isapnptools

2001-04-28 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 07:52:38PM -0400, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > What is already handled by modutils? Loading the isa-pnp module? > Configuring the PnP cards? Sorry, I wasn't talking about the same thing as you. But, what you want to do can and should be done through modutils. By insert

Re: build-dependencies inconsistent in testing

2001-04-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "me" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: me> This makes it rather difficult to build a chroot testing me> environment that makes sense :/ Nevermind. apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev gets round my problem. -- Stephen "If I claimed I was emporer just caus

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-28 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bas Zoetekouw) writes: > If a package requires any binary package in order to be build from > source, it must declare a dependency on that package. It isn't *quite* that simple. Explicit build dependencies should only be for packages that are neither essential nor build-

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-28 Thread Andreas Bombe
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > I imagine the dangerous part would be when you turn the thing on > and it tries to spin up all those disks. You could put them to sleep > shortly after bootup and get the load down, but if PS doesn't blow on > startup it probably

Proposing task-debian

2001-04-28 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Recently I found two packages, debsig-verify and apt-listchanges only by coincidence because I read in a mailing list about them. Would it be good to have a package task-debian that had dependencies to such "meta" packages (including the latest version of apt,debconf and dpkg) to ensure th

Bug#95687: ITP: opmake: OpenPackages.org make(1)

2001-04-28 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist make(1) from the OpenPackages.org project. A prerequisite for bootstrapping OpenPackages on Debian GNU/Linux systems. This is under a BSD-style license. I'll be applying to the new-maintainer process. Pretzelgod has agreed to be my sponsor/advocate/mentor/slave

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread zhaoway
> I too agree that Linux window managers and session managers should not > aspire to emulate Microsoft, I'd rather see some newer and better ideas > implemented instead. apt-get install ratpoison. it rocks. :) sorry, can't resist. ;) -- http://dim.sourceforge.net ... Debian Chinese In

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-28 Thread zhaoway
> > What about other kernel modules packages that are part of debian? > > Will we need 6 or 7 pcmcia-modules-2.2.3-* packages, for example? that's difficult to resolve. take alsa for example. if user compiles their own kernel, then they will have to compile their own alsa. since the protocol use

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-28 Thread mdanish
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:34:02AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > > I too agree that Linux window managers and session managers should not > > aspire to emulate Microsoft, I'd rather see some newer and better ideas > > implemented instead. > > apt-get install ratpoison. it rocks. :) sorry, can't resist.

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-28 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Hammers wrote: > Recently I found two packages, debsig-verify and apt-listchanges only by > coincidence because I read in a mailing list about them. > > Would it be good to have a package task-debian that had dependencies to such > "meta" packages (including the latest version of apt,deb

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-28 Thread Christian Hammers
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:55:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Er, what would you think/do if you were a new user, and saw a list of tasks > like "Web Server", "X Desktop", and so on, and nestled in aoung them was > one titled, inexplicably. just "Debian"? Call it a "working title". We can discuss th

Send You A Message

2001-04-28 Thread Posh
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Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-28 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On 26 Apr 2001 14:09:51 +0800 zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You guys are getting more and more bureaucratic. That's sad. Bureaucracy is integral to an organization such as Debian. you're going to have to learn to live with it. > The package maintainer is a volunteer, and he knows you are

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-28 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On 27 Apr 2001 12:12:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) wrote: > [snip] > 2) Does your statement mean you will *never* forward wishlist items >either? >From my experience, Christian pretty much ignores wishlist items. > > > If you don't want to change your configuration each

Re: Intent to package intel-rng-tools.

2001-04-28 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:15:39 +0530 Viral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:14:22PM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > > Isn't there a kernel driver for that? > > Yes, but one needs the daemon to use the driver. One could activate it > from /proc, but that was removed and move

Re: ITP: darj - arj archive unpacking tool

2001-04-28 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:10:48 +0300 Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > darj - arj archive unpacking tool > > I've started writing a free version of unarj. I have unarj installed > in case I come across .arj files on the net or on old floppies, and > vrms listed it once too often :)

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-28 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:50:26PM +0200, Andreas Bombe wrote: > The IBM SCSI disk I have here has a jumper to delay spin up depending on > SCSI ID so that an array of those would spin up sequentially if they all > had those jumper set (and different IDs, which they need anyway). Maybe > there are