how (not) to write copyright files

2003-12-14 Thread Peter Palfrader
[mail fup to -legal] Hi, when reviewing several NMs' packages I came accross many broken copyright files in recent weeks. Upon investigation I found that many (many!) copyright files in the archive are not really any better. This is an example on how _NOT_ to do it: | This package was

Re: [Firebird-devel] Orphaning Firebird RDBMS

2003-12-14 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
Hi! There's no FB1.5 (or rather FB2) package in Debian and has never been. This should be a separate package called firebird2-* not an upgrade from current firebird package, see also: http://bugs.debian.org/151052 I am orphaning FB1 package. Regards,

Re: problem to unsubscribe

2003-12-14 Thread Brian Nelson
Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I read debian-devel via the newsgroup now (linux.debian.devel) and I'd like to unsubscribe to the list but I can't. I did receive the confirmation string and answer it but it seems that I still receive mails from the list (also for

speex-xmms package

2003-12-14 Thread Davyd
I see there is an ITP for speex-xmms, but I can't find a package. Here is a package until that time. http://oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/~davyd/debian/speex-xmms_0.9.1_i386.deb Please don't complain about the quality of the package, I am not a dd. -- http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/ PGP

Re: Chrony rtc broken?

2003-12-14 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 11:33:29AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Could someone who is running chrony 1.20 please test the rtc commands for me? You'll need 'Enhanced Real-time Clock Support' in the kernel and will need to uncomment the rtcfile line in /etc/chrony/chrony.conf. Posting the output

Re: problem to unsubscribe

2003-12-14 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to do it for every list but I can't unsubscribe. Is there a problem with the unsubscribe script? Why are you asking us? Ask the listmasters. Solved. It

Re: problem to unsubscribe

2003-12-14 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Arnaud Vandyck in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solved. It was a configuration problem :'( Your configuration is breaking threads. Your last five mails have shown up as pseudo threads in mutt, linked only by subject. Christoph -- Christoph Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.df7cb.de/ Wohnheim D, 2405,

Re: cvs versioning

2003-12-14 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 3.2.1. Version numbers based on dates - [...] I started a thread on -policy recently where I suggested this was bad and should be something like 0.19960501 instead,

Re: Bug reports missing

2003-12-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:22:48AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:20:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:30:49AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: mailx -s Merge [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... merge 219863 223355 close 223355 thanks

Re: udev and /sys mounting [was: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?]

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Marco and all others! On 2003-12-14 3:01 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 13, Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would propose to handle this similarily to the devpts filesystem i.e. by a init-script instead of cluttering fstab. Agreed. This also solves the problem of ugly

Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
This is an official complaint about the current buildd situation. The situation: - Wouter Verhelst wrote on Tue, December 9, 2003 18:40 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the m68k porters list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get information about the process of getting wanna-build access back. - James Troup

debian-devel@lists.debian.org

2003-12-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.centuryweb.net- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. 1401300mb10email 2. 1801200mb10email(cgi.asp) 3. 2401300mb20email(cgi.asp) 4. 3601500mb30email(cgi.asp) 5. 2602300mb10email 6. 3402200mb10email(cgi.asp) 7. 4802300mb20email(aspphp) 8. 6602500mb30email(aspphp)

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 13:20]: - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there are some archs already have a working wanna-build access since days, namely mips, mipsel and powerpc. I really feel discriminated by this situation. And it's clearly

run-parts concurrently?

2003-12-14 Thread Thomas Hood
Is there a version of run-parts out there that runs all the scripts in a directory in parallel? I have been writing such a thing but I want to make sure that I am not reinventing the wheel. -- Thomas Hood

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Bruno Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031213 19:50]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the package. Due to its uselessness the existance is rather a bug than its omission. Please close this bug, read the

Failed build on mips target: need help

2003-12-14 Thread Amit Shah
Hi, I'm the maintainer of the libfilesys-smbclient-perl module. The mips build fails with this error: dpkg-deb: building package `libfilesys-smbclient-perl' in `../libfilesys-smbclient-perl_1.5-1_mipsel.deb'. dpkg-genchanges -B -mDebian/MIPSEL Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-genchanges:

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:37:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there are some archs already have a working wanna-build access since days, namely mips, mipsel and powerpc. I really feel discriminated

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:30:46PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Bruno Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031213 19:50]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the package. Due to its uselessness the existance is

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: I get the impression that there is some sort of a Debian clan that controls some important positions of the Debian project and that is protecting itself from being influence by the outside. This is my personal fnordTHERE IS NO

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:21PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Looking at the graphs ti seems obvious that the way how to get buildds running again is known for about 5 days now. And 5 days are not enough time to inform other archs or give them access as well? Why should it be easier

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Nathan Hawkins
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Well, no offense, but that's ugly as hell, and is going to square the amount of confusion people experience when trying to decode our OS names. Agreed, unfortunately - it is, and I suspect it may well. Suggestions for

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Scott Minns
Hiya all, Thanks for your replys, I like the idea of making some packages perishable the trouble is where would you draw the line? I could do with some of the new features in proftpd, but that would not be perishable so the problem is still there. The main problem is that software is moving on

Client Development Specialist for Technology firms

2003-12-14 Thread Scott M. Wiseman
Title: Objective: To:debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: RESUME - Client Development Specialist for Technology firms IF this resume reaches you in Error. Please forward to your Human Resources Department Resume Scott Wiseman 13428 Maxella Ave Ste 207 Marina Del Rey, CA

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:02:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Well, no offense, but that's ugly as hell, and is going to square the amount of confusion people experience when trying to decode our OS names.

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:55:30PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:05:39AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Remember, these machines are, behind the archives, perhaps the most implicity trusted machines in the entire project. Compromise the archives, and you can

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:05:39AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Remember, these machines are, behind the archives, perhaps the most implicity trusted machines in the entire project. Compromise the archives, and you can silently sprinkle trojans throughout any package on any port. Compromise a

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Clint Adams
argument (publicly critising volunteers who are busy is not productive, even if you point is otherwise valid). The hell it isn't.

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at the graphs ti seems obvious that the way how to get buildds running again is known for about 5 days now. You're complaining about a delay of five days in a project run by volunteers and which has been hit very severly by a break-in? I

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Well, compromise the machine of some DDs and you have the same. Compromising machines opens are serious security issue regardless for what the machine is used. Yes. But debian-admin is not responsible for those machines;

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:57:46PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Looking at the graphs ti seems obvious that the way how to get buildds running again is known for about 5 days now. You're complaining about a delay of five days in a project run by volunteers and which has been hit very

Re: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?

2003-12-14 Thread Steve Greenland
On 13-Dec-03, 11:12 (CST), Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A replacement? I'm pretty sure you need both; /sysfs doesn't include *everything* that /proc does (and vice-versa). I'm not sure what the long-term plans are, but /sysfs can't replace /proc right now. There's no intent for /proc to

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I already contacted Ryan for a different issue and got no response at all. Go and figure out my motivation to ask him again. People do have different response times regarding different things. I may leave trivial questions lying in my mailbox for

RE: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Julian Mehnle
Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Why people tend to become polemic when they have no arguments left? Very good question. Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Oh, great... I wouldnt have expected that getting polemic is a necessary to become DPL... :-// So can we please end this flamewar before it really starts

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:20:15PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: The situation: - Wouter Verhelst wrote on Tue, December 9, 2003 18:40 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the m68k porters list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get information about the process of getting wanna-build access back. - James

RE: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Julian Mehnle
Scott Minns wrote: Thanks for your replys, I like the idea of making some packages perishable the trouble is where would you draw the line? We could add an optional control field Expires: $date to packages, so package maintainers could decide for themselves. After a package has expired, it

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: argument (publicly critising volunteers who are busy is not productive, even if you point is otherwise valid). The hell it isn't. True, if you try to get rid of the current volunteers, then publicly criticising them is somewhat productive. This usually

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Roland Mas
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Debian FreeBSD - Debian Forneus (BSD) Debian NetBSD - Debian Naberius (BSD) Debian OpenBSD - Debian Orobos (BSD) On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:02:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: I'm not opposed

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:24:40PM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: David Weinehall wrote: And documentation? Hell, use the source-code. Source code? Who needs source code? Seriously: I've had some problems with file system corruption every now and then. The md5sums are a nice way to check

Re: Bug#223772: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)

2003-12-14 Thread Thomas Viehmann
David Weinehall wrote: And documentation? Hell, use the source-code. Source code? Who needs source code? Seriously: I've had some problems with file system corruption every now and then. The md5sums are a nice way to check whether the basic binaries on the disk are still what I'd like them to

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 02:14:05PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: Is there a simple or recommended way of making a package depend on [Japanese] fonts? It is categorically impossible and should not be done. At most you can use Suggests or Recommends; do not use Depends for fonts for X applications. X

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:21:02PM +0100, Julian Mehnle wrote: So can we please end this flamewar before it really starts off? Why? Better give arguments than flames. So far I have not read any good argument why there is no good communication between the people that are working on recovering

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:29:35PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: True, if you try to get rid of the current volunteers, then publicly criticising them is somewhat productive. This usually slows things down, though, and I think that Ingo's point is that things are not moving fast enough. Not

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-14 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Chris Cheney wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:28:29PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: The Categories= field (to place .desktop files into menu hierarchies) is AFAIK not used at all by KDE, although I think Gnome may support it. The above statements are probably true of KDE 3.1 since it

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Graham Wilson
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:41:22PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Everybody seems to agree that new stable versions *should* be out about every 6 months. I don't think that is true. I think developers (and users) have a wide range of opinions as to how often there should be a new Debian release.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: I'll suggest Offler (or Om), Foorgol (I don't like Fate) and, um, some other god coming out of Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, preferably whose name starts with an N. Or something like that. One should never name the

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Ben Burton
Is there a simple or recommended way of making a package depend on [Japanese] fonts? It is categorically impossible and should not be done. Point taken. My question then is: is there a simple/recommended way of making a package suggest/recommend Japanese fonts? Given that it's not a

RE: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Lucas Albers
My friend has a high volume mail server running spamassassin 2.31 Oops the spamassassin stopped working. Now I have 12,000 people angry with me. Take that to the bank. --luke Scott Minns wrote: I know this is no panacea, since in many cases, the maintainer cannot know whether a package will

install openwebmail interfere's with mysql-server install.

2003-12-14 Thread Lucas Albers
I recently encountered a potentail bug involving openwebmail and mysql-server. I wanted to know if anyone else could reproduce it. Result: Install openwebmail and modifyting DB_File as per directions in openwebmail and then installing mysql-server will prevent mysql-server from starting. Expected

Re: udev and /sys mounting [was: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?]

2003-12-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 14, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: udev (and given time many other programs) needs sysfs mounted, so we should decide if it will be handled by devpts.sh or by a similar script in a different package. Currently the udev init script[1] mounts it by itself, but I'd like to

Set up build environment.

2003-12-14 Thread Lucas Albers
I recently ported a testing package to stable. Did not have to make any changes to the package, just rebuilt it on a stable system. Here are the directions for setting up a stable build environment. Should be helpful to any who is starting off on setting up build environments. In the example I

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 02:14:05PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: Hi. I have a question in relation to #216440 (kiten requires Japanese fonts): Is there a simple or recommended way of making a package depend on Japanese fonts? The only solutions I can see are to either: 1) pick a couple

Re: RFP: intellisense.vim - Intellisense for Vim

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Juhapekka, hi Debianers! On 2003-12-05 19:34 +0200, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: normal I just corrected that to wishlist. http://insenvim.sourceforge.net/front.php I took at the sources. Did you try compiling them under Linux? Things like '#include windows.h', all

(last) Assurance measures: AMA (coping with the speed of OSS development)

2003-12-14 Thread Magosányi Árpád
Hi! This is the last part of the saga (for a time at least), as we are done with all assurance requrements (modulo those concentrating on ST and PP assurance.) I hope that at least some of you were listening. (First I thought there would be some feedback, at least like stop it, this is boring!,

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-14 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Billy Biggs wrote: Bruce Sass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The above is just the tip of the iceberg with respect to i18n, I had roughly the same size savings when I was removing translations from KDE2 files---KDE3 has more files, more translations per file, and I haven't

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Scott James Remnant may or may not have written... On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 08:47, Herbert Xu wrote: Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your message didn't include a Content-Type header specifying that, so it's likely to come through as garbage for most MUAs... Right, here

Re: recovery status update

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Aaron M. Ucko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-09 15:37]: Although I agree that there is definitely something to be said for this approach, I would like to note an additional issue with it: - how to verify that katie will process uploads as expected (I'd been running dinstall -n, via dput -D;

Re: recovery status update

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-09 09:49]: - how to give developers the possibility of seeing what's in the queue (daily rsyncs are not good enough for this; I've frequently pulled packages from the accepted queue to check that bug fixes have been correctly applied) The queue

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:29:10PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: I don't think that is true. I think developers (and users) have a wide range of opinions as to how often there should be a new Debian release. I like the Debian is ready when it's ready argument. Two years between releases may be

Re: recovery status update

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Aaron M. Ucko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-09 22:14]: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - how to run madison and wanna-build I thought the idea was for the unrestricted mirror to include a read-only copy of the database madison consults. Yes, the idea is to sync the Postgres database

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Roland Mas
Roland Mas, 2003-12-14 21:30:17 +0100 : [...] I'll suggest Offler (or Om), Foorgol (I don't like Fate) and, um, some other god coming out of Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, preferably whose name starts with an N. ...and then I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggan (only appearing

dpkg-sig as name for the .deb-files signature tool

2003-12-14 Thread Andreas Barth
retitle 223311 ITP: dpkg-sig -- create and verify signatures on .deb-files thanks Hi, I announced the packaging of a low-level tool for creating and verification of signatures on deb-archive files with the name debsigs-ng. This name was criticized, because it looks like a fork of debsigs. So, I

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-13 15:56]: of discussing information we'd like from auric, what's on my mind today is the ability to check the NEW queue. Thus, if the ftpmasters are planning on a long-term restriction on auric, mirroring the data in the new queue [at least

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-14 Thread Brian May
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 03:56:02PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: I certainly miss the varied and up-to-date information that I was able to get from auric. Taking James Troup's advice from his announcement of discussing information we'd like from auric, what's on my mind today is the ability to

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:55:30PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:05:39AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Thus, he probably has little choice, in some cases, but to depend on others to deal with some of

Bug#201163: ITP: tuxcards -- A small note organisation program

2003-12-14 Thread Andreas Gutowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Followup-For: Bug #201163 * Package name: tuxcards Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Alexander Theel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.tuxcards.de/ * License : GPL Description : a graphical (QT based) program to manage

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Everybody seems to agree that new stable versions *should* be out about every 6 months. [...] No. cu andreas

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: Feel free to propose alternatives from, say, the origional mythology which spawned the concept of daemons as beings which were not inherently good or evil, then. I'll suggest Offler (or

RE: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Julian Mehnle
Lucas Albers wrote: Julian Mehnle wrote: I know this is no panacea, since in many cases, the maintainer cannot know whether a package will perish at all (like when all spammers promptly give up advancing their software, so a given version of spamassassin would stay useful forever)... ;-)

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:30:04PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: [snip] I think you're seing spectres. I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that you didn't quote. -- G. Branden Robinson|I'm sorry if the following sounds Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 22:56, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: I certainly miss the varied and up-to-date information that I was able to get from auric. Taking James Troup's advice from his announcement of discussing information we'd like from auric, There's the question of botched uploads. I think

Re: APT-Fu 0.2.3

2003-12-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 22:16, Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Scott James Remnant may or may not have written... On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 08:47, Herbert Xu wrote: Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your message didn't include a Content-Type header specifying that, so it's likely

Re: Bug reports missing

2003-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:52:15PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:22:48AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:20:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: It's your punishment for using the close command. DON'T! There is no need and no excuse. I

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian -bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:30:48PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: Nathan Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not opposed to anything else you've said. I do believe these particular names are a bad idea, however. One of the reasons the BSD mascot is

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Branden Robinson in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian FreeBSD - Debian Forneus (BSD) Debian NetBSD - Debian Naberius (BSD) Debian OpenBSD - Debian Orobos (BSD) [...] Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it just the same if you

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:07:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:55:30PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Try to coordinate? When there would have been a try to cooperate by him, I wouldn´t

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Roger Leigh
Nathan Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Well, no offense, but that's ugly as hell, and is going to square the amount of confusion people experience when trying to decode our OS names. Agreed, unfortunately - it is,

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to -bsd.] On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:02:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Debian FreeBSD - Debian Forneus (BSD) Debian NetBSD - Debian Naberius (BSD) Debian OpenBSD - Debian

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:41:50AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: Re: Branden Robinson in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian FreeBSD - Debian Forneus (BSD) Debian NetBSD - Debian Naberius (BSD) Debian OpenBSD - Debian Orobos (BSD) [...] Your proposal would change

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have little patience for superstitious beliefs, and less still for people who claim to be defending the tender feelings of the ignorant. But why use names correlated with evil when other options are available which interfere less with Debian's

Re: Generating ~/.ssh/known_hosts from LDAP

2003-12-14 Thread allomber
Thanks Matt for your script. Will you add it to debian-goodies ? Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here.

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-14 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Christoph Berg wrote: since we are discussing codenames for the Debian/*BSD OSs, I noticed that the experimental distribution doesn't have a codename yet, as unstable has with Sid. I'd propose to call it Scud, which is the Name of Sid's dog (which broke toys even worse than Sid did ;-).

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Nathan Hawkins wrote: Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it just the same if you wanted to call them Loki, Kali or Hitler. (To pick a few at random.) Using names of evil, real or imagined, is not something that would be helpful to Debian.

Re: udev and /sys mounting [was: mounting tmpfs (and sysfs) defaultly in sarge?]

2003-12-14 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:01:42 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Dec 14, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: udev (and given time many other programs) needs sysfs mounted, so we should decide if it will be handled by devpts.sh or by a similar

experimental codename

2003-12-14 Thread Christoph Berg
Hello, since we are discussing codenames for the Debian/*BSD OSs, I noticed that the experimental distribution doesn't have a codename yet, as unstable has with Sid. I'd propose to call it Scud, which is the Name of Sid's dog (which broke toys even worse than Sid did ;-). Christoph [1]

Re: Failed build on mips target: need help

2003-12-14 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:43:53PM +0530, Amit Shah wrote: Hi, I'm the maintainer of the libfilesys-smbclient-perl module. The mips build fails with this error: dpkg-deb: building package `libfilesys-smbclient-perl' in `../libfilesys-smbclient-perl_1.5-1_mipsel.deb'. dpkg-genchanges

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Jim Gettys
I'm afraid I have to educate you: the world has been changing out from under your feet. Any current GTK+, Qt or Mozilla will typically use client side fonts, which make font servers moot; fonts must be installed in the file system visible to the application, not on a server someplace. This is

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:30:04PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: I think you're seing spectres. I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that you didn't quote. I did. But I trimmed away those that were not necessary for

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody seems to agree that new stable versions *should* be out about every 6 months. No. I stand corrected, apparently. (But I have yet to imagine which arguments would be used against doing a release

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Nunya
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:33:17PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I doubt knowledgeable and thoughtful adherents to the Christian religion -- the kind who can actually attend a seminary and not flunk out -- find the names I proposed particularly

Re: Services I'd like from auric

2003-12-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:51:05PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 22:56, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: I certainly miss the varied and up-to-date information that I was able to get from auric. Taking James Troup's advice from his announcement of discussing information

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Street names from Berkeley have appeal, and few fundies assign Manichean properties to asphalt. Given Berkeleys' other famous export is LSD, how about: acid, sunshine, sugar etc.? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain -

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:49:20AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: Henning == Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henning I stand corrected, apparently. (But I have yet to imagine which Henning arguments would be used against doing a release if we happen to Henning find testing in

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Isaac To
Henning == Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henning I stand corrected, apparently. (But I have yet to imagine which Henning arguments would be used against doing a release if we happen to Henning find testing in a freezeable state 6 months after sarge Henning releases).

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2003-12-14 Thread Christopher Tessone
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Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:19:22PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: | Perhaps we should use the names of famous atheists and other critics of | religion. Bertrand Russell: The Christian religion has been and still is is the chief enemy of moral progress in the world. Cameron.

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2003-12-14 Thread mduchnij
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Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-14 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 13 December 2003 14:28, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:21:25PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 12:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: does this mean different input methods? Yes. Actually, uxterm under ja_JP.UTF-8

Re: How to depend on Japanese fonts?

2003-12-14 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:20:41PM -0800, Jim Gettys wrote: | This is a fundamental change in X architecture, which has been | underway for over 18 months. And it's strongly associated with freedesktop.org, which I'm sure will endear Andrew to the new method even more :-) Cameron.

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:43, Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Street names from Berkeley have appeal, and few fundies assign Manichean properties to asphalt. Given Berkeleys' other famous export is LSD, how about: acid, sunshine, sugar

SCIM (was: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu)

2003-12-14 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a quick suggestion: have you tried SCIM as an IM? http://www.turbolinux.com.cn/~suzhe/scim/ it supports CJK and Unicode. In fact you can use a UTF-8 locale, like en_US.UTF-8 and input any CJK char, plus unicode sequences into any unicode aware

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