[Matthew Garrett]
> Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode
> capable application is going to have issues, yes.
Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it
"aptitude". Fixing it to make it accept utf-8 and spit out the correct
encoding for its LC_CT
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:10:21PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:04:56PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given
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On 12/03/2004 12:08 PM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:26:50AM +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Am 2004-12-02 18:11:03, schrieb Manoj Srivastava:
>>
>>
>>> The Bible is illegal to distribute in the most po
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:04:56PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given special status over
> > the national chars found in other languages spoken by project member
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given special status over
> the national chars found in other languages spoken by project members.
> Debian should be using either ASCII, or Unicode; standardizing o
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:58:10PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> I would not disagree with Peter or Daniel. They are
> right in my view. However, consider the following
> Unicode characters:
> 025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
> 025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
> 02
This one time, at band camp, Bruce Perens said:
> Philippe De Swert wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian
> >user not to violate his local laws.
>
> It's the responsibility of people who live in a jurisdiction to not
> break their lo
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> >> On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Package: findutils
> [...]
> >>> It would be nice if the daily fin
Philippe De Swert wrote:
Hello all,
I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian user not to
violate his local laws.
It's the responsibility of people who live in a jurisdiction to not
break their local laws. Not just users, but everyone involved in any
way. What is yo
Philippe De Swert writes:
> I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian
> user not to violate his local laws.
Of course it is. Unfortunately, governments don't generally agree.
--
John Hasler
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:21:41AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> > On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> > > they're famous and have mindless followers wh
Hello all,
I am just wondering if it is not the responabilty of the actual Debian user not
to
violate his local laws. Of course it would help if a Debian developer does care
to
take notion of what the (Debian) community thinks about certain software.
I do not like the idea of censoring in Debia
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> > they're famous and have mindless followers who'll buy and read any formulaic
> > tripe they slap together. I don't t
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:01 +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Ron> If you are presenting pictures that "appeal to the prurient
> Ron> interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or
> Ron> scientific value", then you very w
Em Dom, 2004-12-05 Ãs 02:53 +, Andrew Suffield escreveu:
> > I can't see why. The whole free software concept brings an idea of
> > giving equal oportunities to everyone.
>
> How is it "equal opportunities" to say: "You can't do that unless you
> also find a woman who's willing to do it as wel
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:34:45PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
> > files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress bee
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Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Though I agree on your last statement (and please, remember, I'm from
> germany where non-ASCII-characters are also in common use), I still
> consider that UTF-8-not-ASCII has not finally reached ok, but it'
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Russell> Bad idea. Some countries have stupid laws and we should
Russell> not pander to them. There are laws against encryption
Russell> and against reverse engineering (which could get strace,
Russell> ltrace, and gdb)
> "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ron> If you are presenting pictures that "appeal to the prurient
Ron> interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or
Ron> scientific value", then you very well might be violating your
Ron> ISP's AUP.
So are you sa
> "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ron> Umm, all animals (except humans) are naked.
Not true; have a look at some of the photos here:
http://www.tech-sol.net/humor/funphoto121.htm> (note: web page
produces stupid warnings; ignore them and it seems to work). There
probably
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 21:25 +0100, Andrea Bedini wrote:
> Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
> > Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have
> > that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing
> > it), and another cit
Ron Johnson writes:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 23:40 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> [snip]
> > Well, I've changed my mind actually. An optional package called
> > 'hot-babe' is pretty harmless. The images are hardly pornography,
>
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 23:40 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
[snip]
> Well, I've changed my mind actually. An optional package called
> 'hot-babe' is pretty harmless. The images are hardly pornography,
> though I certainly couldn't run
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 05:15:50PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> >You're looking at this from a US-centric viewpoint, Bruce, and extending
> >this to the whole Project.
> >
> Because I am one of the people with legal responsibility for the U.S.
> incarnation of the pr
Il giorno lun, 06-12-2004 alle 01:49 +, Andrew Suffield ha scritto:
> Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses to have
> that body distribute something (by being a citizen and distributing
> it), and another citizen tries to stop them.
This is not the case: one member of a
Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are not speaking of a stricken Polish L, a
> double-accented Magyar O, or a euro sign. We are
> speaking of... well, to tell the truth I have no idea
> what these letters are. Have you? More to the point,
> should you and I learn to recognize su
Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
0261 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCRIPT G
0264 LATIN SMALL LETTER RAMS HORN
0267 LATIN SMALL LETTER HENG WITH HOOK
027A LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH LONG LEG
027F LATIN SMALL LETTER REV
I would not disagree with Peter or Daniel. They are
right in my view. However, consider the following
Unicode characters:
025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
025E LATIN SMALL LETTER CLOSED REVERSED OPEN E
0261 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCRIPT G
0264 LATIN SMALL LETTER RAMS HORN
0267 LATIN
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 03:54:12PM +, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> Hi
>
> I notice discussion on bug #241554 regarding a menu-method for .desktop
> files used by KDM/GDM for window manager sessions. Has any progress been
> made on this? If not I would like to volunteer for it. I definitely
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 19:18 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Gürkan Sengün:
>
> > * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> > Version : 0.9.1
> > Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> > * License
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The images are hardly pornography, though I certainly couldn't run
> it on my office PC (unless I was trying to get fired).
Heh, but frozen-bubble might be even better at that.
* Gürkan Sengün:
> * Package name: lapispuzzle.app
> Version : 0.9.1
> Upstream Author : Banlu Kemiyatorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://home.gna.org/garma/lapispuzzle/index.html
> * License : GNU GPL
> Description : almost a clone of Street Puzzle F
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:12:53PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> You're being offensive, you should not be included in Debian.
Reading this one comment made this whole craptacular thread worth reading.
- David Nusinow
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> I'm sorry, I didn't mean that these other possibilities don't exist.
So why are you muttering about GRs when at least 9 other avenues exist
and GRs are proven to be divisive and a waste of time?
> Bruce was not suggesting any of them either, and my real point is that
* Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041206 13:45]:
> Having said that, this package doesn't really advance Debian in any
> way. It won't gain us any users [...].
And that's the reason why I think it should not be included.
Cheers,
Andi
--
http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/
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l> Otavio Salvador agreed to sponsor this package.
l> We decided to wait one week before upload it to the archive, in order to
l> get some more feedback. Probably we can already upload it. What do you think,
l> Otavio? The only prob
> Give me *one* authoritative definition of pornography that applies to
> this picture. Until you give me one, I'll consider all the ones I've
> seen so far to be the accurate ones, and none of them say these pictures
> are pornography.
It's been said that pornography is other people's erotism.
Po
Otavio Salvador agreed to sponsor this package.
We decided to wait one week before upload it to the archive, in order to
get some more feedback. Probably we can already upload it. What do you think,
Otavio? The only problem is that I'm currently on holiday and I will stay
outside until next sunday,
On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> they're famous and have mindless followers who'll buy and read any formulaic
> tripe they slap together. I don't think I like the idea of Debian becoming
> the Stephen King of the Open
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:32 pm, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
>> > Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Reason: I can
>> > recognize and distinguish Latin-1 characters, even when I do not always
>> > understand the words they
Andrew Suffield wrote:
Is Debian a legal entity? The answer is unquestionably yes.
Where do you get these ideas? Debian is unquestionably not a legal
entity.
There is simply no way to avoid being one.
An unincorporated association is what your organization i
On 06/12/2004 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > in my eyes there shouldn't be any tolerance for intolerance, as you
> > woun't get respect in return. rather your tolerance will be
> > exploited.
>
> Right. I am not about to go about tolerating people who are
> intolerant of artr, jsut because it
Hi All,
I am looking to port pcmcia based wlan driver (prism chipset) on a
custom hardware. Pcmcia hardware conforms to PCMCIA/PC CARD 2.1
standard. Here is the description of PCMCAI Controller.
It is connected with the CPU via a custom bus which is a non-ISA/PCI
bus. Pcmcia host controller is
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Hi Eric,
most cc:s removed - and I'm still thinking wether I should send this as a
private mail... anyway:
I'm sorry if I offended you with my summary mail about the current status of
quik and initrd-support. My aim is to help to get working oldworld
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:42:05AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:54PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal.
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>> On 2004-11-24 Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Package: findutils
[...]
>>> It would be nice if the daily find run could be moved behind the
>>> logrotate and sysklogd runs
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:33:28PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I hope all you people are aware that you are causing a new duelling banjo
> > case and helping out Google to connect Debian with hot-babes.
> Waw
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:54PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal. So far, there
> > has been just FUD about this issue. I am not sure that artistic work
> >
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:01:16AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > > Actually, the developer is choosing to have Debian distribute a
> > > > package, and
> > > > others are trying to stop Debian from distributing the package.
> > > Word games. Censorship is when a citizen of one body chooses
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:29PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34:54PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > >Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >>It stri
14:33 given that there have been actual deaths among debian devels, i
don't think it's a good idea to
ask "is the hotkeys maintainer dead?". someday, someone asking a
similar question will get the
answer "yes".
14:33 ibid: It's happened with the kernel
14:34 oh?
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Seems more like there is a more of a minority of uber right
> wingers trying to batten down art that offends their sensibility. The
> actual project members seem to be more or less taking the sensible
> approach, in that t
* Andreas Tille wrote:
> This stupid thread made its way even in a German Linux news feed ...
>
>http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2004/7569.html
...and on the frontmatter of this week's LWN issue...
> even if you do not understand German: I would love if Debian would
> become famous for rele
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34:54PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>It strikes me that some of the material in question would be in
> >>violation of the Internet policies
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:01:15PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> The U. would err on the side of caution given the potential danger. If
> the "Hot Babe" package was being distributed from their facilities,
> they'd pull the plug. In order to appear to be proactive regarding
> harassing, offensive
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:39:42PM -0500, Thomas Folz-Donahue wrote:
Where is Anthony Wong?
Please see http://bugs.debian.org/280817 -- it's in need of a new
maintainer.
Since I use hotkeys every day and did some work on it before the woody
release I will take the pac
On Monday 06 Dec 2004 10:01, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> The difference being that editing is a choice made by the person doing
> the work, while censorship is a choice made by an otherwise unrelated
> person in the same organisation.
>
> Editing would be if the maintainer decided to remove the
> pac
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:24:49PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> > > shrug. At least in .au we have some legislation to protect minority
> > > groups but we're not living in a totalitarian PC clampdown.
> >
> > Sounds irrelevant. There's a big difference between 'protect minority
> > groups' (fro
On Monday 06 Dec 2004 06:54, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Stupidly enough, you have committed the idiotic mistake of
> assuming that everyone holds to your premises, that firstly,
> tolerating intolerance is somehow a good thing -- why should it be is
> beyond me.
Oh, this is about intolerance i
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:39:42PM -0500, Thomas Folz-Donahue wrote:
> Where is Anthony Wong?
Please see http://bugs.debian.org/280817 -- it's in need of a new
maintainer.
--Jeroen
--
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:00PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > What is actually happening here is that one individual Debian
> > > > developer is choosing to distribute a given package, and some other
> > > > developers are trying to stop them. That's censorship. Even if they
> > > > don't ha
* Thomas Folz-Donahue ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041206 04:00]:
> Where is Anthony Wong?
> [...]
> debian-developers, now I turn to you. Where is Anthony Wong, and how
> can I get this feature-restoring patch in the hotkeys package?
Please see
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-p
Go away and don't come back until you have read the mailing list code
of conduct. I do not need a second copy of this entire sodding thread.
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:01:48PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Is Debian a legal entity? The answer is unquestionably yes.
Where do you get these ideas? De
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:38:51PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > That's true. Debian doesn't *have* to be mirrored *anywhere*.
>
> We do well to listen to what mirrors say, and what their concerns
> are. But we do not do well to guess at what
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:16:58AM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:17:29PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > Would you please stop asserting that I'm out to FUD you? Given my
> > history I would hope that you could take for granted that I want what's
> > best for the proje
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:24:32AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:49:44 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is
> >> implemented in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason
> >> that I en
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, except for..
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that these other possibilities don't exist.
Bruce was not suggesting any of them either, and my real point is that
none of them are on-topic for debian-devel.
> 6. project decides informally that potential legal
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:51:23PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Friday 03 December 2004 16:19, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 2) can not be sexist
>
> Bad idea. We should avoid subjective criteria.
>
> > 3) has to be able to be mir
On 2004-12-06, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the intention is to be silly, why not replace the images with
> something else that isn't so controversial? I personally liked the
> idea I heard about the sheep. Just change the name at the same time.
Yeah. hot-sheep is surely less controv
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Nobody can stop you from creating a package of it. Folks on the Debian
> > project can collectively decide whether or not the project should be a
> > party to distributing it.
>
> Currently the only procedure we have in place for this, short of
> convincing the mainta
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is not a policy proposal yet, when I have that I will bring it to
> debian-project.
It is *still* off-topic for this list. Discussion about possible
policy proposals, the whole damn thing, belongs on debian-project.
On Monday 06 December 2004 08:01, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:49 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Umm, all animals (except humans) are naked.
:-O and here I always thought I was naked underneed my clothes!
--
Cheers, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
1. Encrypted mail preferred (GPG Ke
This is not a policy proposal yet, when I have that I will bring it to
debian-project.
The entire Debian Social Contract is driven by a desire for social
justice. But when I proposed it I only wrote about software. During the
whole month that we discussed and refined the thing, I don't remembe
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Currently the only procedure we have in place for this, short of
convincing the maintainer to withdraw it, is a GR.
Yes, I will work on that.
And, IIRC, you aren't one of those folks anyway, right?
No, that's wrong. I was added to the active Debian developer keyring
m
On Sunday 05 December 2004 20.11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Any parser that acceps 8bit non-ascii chars
> will accept UTF-8 then. What remains is just making the UTF-8 chars
> visually correct then.
And make sure that, where character strings are modified, the multibyte
sequences are counted
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How about you go off and create a distribution that panders to all the silly
> ideas. The rest of us will keep making Debian usable.
Um, I think Kevin Mark was making exactly this point.
Unfortunately, people try sarcasm all the time, and it falls fl
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Who's we here, kemo sabe? Last I looked, you are not a project member.
You haven't looked in a while.
Bruce
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On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 23:29 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > No, that's not true. "reasonable person" (actually, they say
> > > "reasonable man") is a quite well-defined concept in American law.
> >
> > Is "reasonable man" the same in San Franci
On Friday 03 December 2004 16:19, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 2) can not be sexist
Bad idea. We should avoid subjective criteria.
> 3) has to be able to be mirrored by all mirrors based on the laws of the
> location of the server
Bad idea. Some countries have stupid laws and we sh
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> >But it seems that now you're telling me that you know better than the
> >mirror operators which packages will violate their internal policies.
> Certainly a good guess is better than nothing. Upon such a list it
> would b
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 23:44 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >Legal, illegal, what's the difference? *I* want to package it.
> >Therefore, anyone who tries to stop me is censoring me.
> >
> >
> Nobody can stop you from creating a package of it. Folks on the Debian
> project
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Nobody can stop you from creating a package of it. Folks on the Debian
> project can collectively decide whether or not the project should be a
> party to distributing it.
Currently the only procedure we have in place for this, short of
convincing the ma
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:42:15PM -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> >But it seems that now you're telling me that you know better than the
> >mirror operators which packages will violate their internal policies.
> >
> >
> Certainly a good guess is b
Ron Johnson wrote:
Legal, illegal, what's the difference? *I* want to package it.
Therefore, anyone who tries to stop me is censoring me.
Nobody can stop you from creating a package of it. Folks on the Debian
project can collectively decide whether or not the project should be a
party to dist
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
But it seems that now you're telling me that you know better than the
mirror operators which packages will violate their internal policies.
Certainly a good guess is better than nothing. Upon such a list it
would be possible to err on the side of caution and al
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi fellow developers,
>
> I failed in ending this thread when I posted
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html
>
> instead I caused two trolls making even more noise.
>
> I hope al
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:49:44 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is
>> implemented in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason
>> that I encountered it in the first place).
> How is that an advantage of use?
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 01:18 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:08:31 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:57 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:57:19 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >>
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > No, that's not true. "reasonable person" (actually, they say
> > "reasonable man") is a quite well-defined concept in American law.
>
> Is "reasonable man" the same in San Francisco and Birmingham, AL?
Um, workplace harrasment cases are not the same a
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 02:04 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:19AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:08 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > A l
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Seems more like there is a more of a minority of uber right
> wingers trying to batten down art that offends their sensibility. The
> actual project members seem to be more or less taking the sensible
>
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 23:18 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > Don't worry, that's not how hostile environment harassment law works.
> > > IIRC, it's based on a reasonable person test, and is extremely
> > > complex.
> >
> > It all depends on your
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 01:06 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:48:47 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:27 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:49:08 -0500, William Ballard
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >>
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:07:32 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:39 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:32:29 -0600, Ron Johnson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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>> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 19:24 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> >> Ron J
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:08:31 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 00:57 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:57:19 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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>> > Here's one useful suggestion, I think:
>>
>> > If hot-babe is useful
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:45:20 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:36 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:13:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > No. "We" are not calling on the Morality Police to take the
>> > particul
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:19AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:08 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > A legal opinion on this matter would be a good idea...
> >
> > Keep in
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Don't worry, that's not how hostile environment harassment law works.
> > IIRC, it's based on a reasonable person test, and is extremely
> > complex.
>
> It all depends on your definition of "reasonable".
No, that's not true. "reasonable person" (ac
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 10:17:29PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Would you please stop asserting that I'm out to FUD you? Given my
> history I would hope that you could take for granted that I want what's
> best for the project.
I love how Debian has no sacred cows. It's one of the reasons I
stu
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal. So far, there
> has been just FUD about this issue. I am not sure that artistic work
> qualifies as porn, which seems to be the case here.
Artistic or no
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