Bug#447841: keyboard layout changed in X, mod keys not working

2007-10-23 Thread Norbert Preining
Package: hal Version: 0.5.10-1 Severity: critical Hi! This is related to #447813, but I guess it is a hal problem since on my computer only hal was updated and not xorg. There are in fact several problems: Content: * kbd layout * modifier keys * xmodmap format changes * kbd layout ===

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:42:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 17:04 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > > the > > > conventional sense. The

Re: Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - madeeasy

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Cloutier
I don't see why users in countries where software is not patentable should be forced to jump through hoops to get access to multimedia software. If this repository is not added to the user's sources.list file by default then there is no advantage in setting up yet another repository for such

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
On 10/20/07, Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like it would be useful to > aggregate statistics for out-of-tree kernel module packages Interestingly, Fedora has a new policy that kernel module packages must be merged with kernel.org or removed from Fedora: http://fedoraproject

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Philippe Cloutier wrote: >> > 4 ipw3945 897 >> Replaced by (free) iwlwifi which will be present in 2.6.24. >> > iwlwifi is "contrib", like ipw3945. iwlwifi needs non-free firmware, ipw3945 needs non-free firmware and non-free userspace daemon. The "free" above was main

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
> According to that page "We work with the manufacturers of the specific > device to specify, develop, submit to the main kernel, and maintain the > kernel drivers." You missed this page: http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OutOfTreeDrivers -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Cloutier
If anyone has some time, it would be valuable to work through the list and check, which of these have been merged into Linux mainline by now (e.g. several of the wifi drivers have) and report the missing ones to Greg Kroah-H's driver project: http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view Accor

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Cloutier
WiFi > 4 ipw3945 897 Replaced by (free) iwlwifi which will be present in 2.6.24. iwlwifi is "contrib", like ipw3945. > 25 ieee80211 109 > 61 ieee80211softmac 14 > 31 ipw2100 71 > 18 ipw2200

Re: Warnings on shutdown (Debian Etch and Kernel 2.6.22.9)

2007-10-23 Thread Jim Paris
Tejun Heo wrote: > Ehh... I meant something along the line of... > > "Info for Debian VERSION users : if you see this warning there are > several solutions... blah blah". For Debian, I don't think there are any complete solutions yet. The related bug is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport

Re: Firefox bugs mass-closed.

2007-10-23 Thread jidanni
I dutifully re-checked each bug. Today I got another pile in my mailbox to recheck. I did not check if they were the ones I had just rechecked. I instead just gave up. This is the Bank. You have 60 days to respond that you still want the money in your account. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Ben Hutchings wrote: > I didn't know that table existed! It seems like it would be useful to > aggregate statistics for out-of-tree kernel module packages by stripping > off the kernel version suffix. Here's what I came up with: OK, here's a preliminary analysis of your results. There are quite

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 17:04 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > the > > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > > University Press) has an excl

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> Nevertheless on the user's side there is a demand for those=20 >> codecs which can be whitnessed by the broad acceptance of unofficial=20 >> repositories [see: http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_inst ].=20 > > > I didn't know that table existed! It seems like it would be

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - made easy

2007-10-23 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:44:30PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:15:42AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > [...] > > I suggest that, if such a repository will be created for patented > > codecs, that e.g. sponsored uploads will not be allowed to this > > archive. I know t

Re: VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Luca Capello said: > > 2) I think we should be consistent also about how to store personal >repositories, at least for web access. AFAIK the general structure >for project repositories is > >VCS.d.o/VCS/$GROUP/$REPO I don't really mind what layout we use

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Isabel Drost wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Steve Greenland wrote: >> Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are >> many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law >> somewhere in the world. > > Just a tiny example: I guess, Debian still con

VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hello, soon after darcs.d.o became a reality [1], Zack asked me about including the support for it in debcheckout and I did it as bug #445714 [2], arising some discrepancies in how the personal repositories are managed: - git.d.o uses $HOME/public_git, which is then visible at [3] - darcs.d.o us

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 09:36, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: >>> The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in >>> the >>> convention

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Isabel Drost
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Steve Greenland wrote: > Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are > many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law > somewhere in the world. Just a tiny example: I guess, Debian still contains many packages that cont

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - madeeasy

2007-10-23 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Jeremy Stanley: > As a sponsoree myself, I'm not entirely certain I understand why > it's any more likely that a sponsoring DD will overlook and upload a > package with the wrong section, than that a DD will upload a > similarly incorrect package he or she directly maintains. Hm, that's true... s

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction. If I have understood things correctly, in England (and the rest of the UK?) the copyright is owned by the crown and therefore it is the crown that sets the license. I

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - made easy

2007-10-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:15:42AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: [...] > I suggest that, if such a repository will be created for patented > codecs, that e.g. sponsored uploads will not be allowed to this > archive. I know that most of you will hate this idea, but I > believe it is necessary to ke

Bug#447745: ITP: liboglappth -- A library for creating portable OpenGL applications with easy-to-code scene setup and selection operations.

2007-10-23 Thread LI Daobing
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: LI Daobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: liboglappth Version : 0.96 Upstream Author : Tommi Hassinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://bioinformatics.org/ghemical/ghemical/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 23 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in the conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge University Press) has an exclusive commercial right to

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:44:51AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction. > Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are > many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law > somewhere in

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Oct-07, 09:04 (CDT), Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > the > > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > > University Press

Re: Bug#447514: ITP: apt-cacher-ng -- Caching proxy for distribution of software packages

2007-10-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Oct-07, 14:43 (CDT), Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Package name: apt-cacher-ng > Version : 0.0.8 > Upstream Author : myself > * URL : http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloch/acng/ > * License : BSD, original ^

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > the > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > University Press) has an exclusive commercial right to print the AV > (and the BCP, but that's

Re: Warnings on shutdown (Debian Etch and Kernel 2.6.22.9)

2007-10-23 Thread Tejun Heo
Renato S. Yamane wrote: > Tejun Heo wrote: >> Renato S. Yamane wrote: >>> Tejun Heo wrote: Renato S. Yamane wrote: > Fixed. Patch is attached. Thanks! Can you write up something for other debian users so that it can be included in the linux-ata page && cc Jeff Garzik? >>> >>

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, On 23 Oct 2007, at 11:52, Enrico Zini wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:16:13AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: Since I'm not at all familiar with the legacy of copyright laws around the British Royal Family, I'm setting the severity to normal, using 'could' in the subject and Cc-ing debian-d

Re: Warnings on shutdown (Debian Etch and Kernel 2.6.22.9)

2007-10-23 Thread Renato S. Yamane
Tejun Heo wrote: Renato S. Yamane wrote: Tejun Heo wrote: Renato S. Yamane wrote: Fixed. Patch is attached. Thanks! Can you write up something for other debian users so that it can be included in the linux-ata page && cc Jeff Garzik? Sorry my friend, but I don't have e-mail from Jeff Garzi

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:16:13AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > Since I'm not at all familiar with the legacy of copyright laws around > the British Royal Family, I'm setting the severity to normal, using > 'could' in the subject and Cc-ing debian-devel. But I thought the issue > was worth raising

Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Enrico Zini
Package: bible-kjv-text Severity: normal Hello, I was browsing Wikipedia after visiting a special exibition about the history of the Bible in the United Kingdom and I stumbled on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status "The terms of the letters patent prohibit

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - madeeasy

2007-10-23 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Sam Morris: > I don't see why users in countries where software is not patentable > should be forced to jump through hoops to get access to multimedia > software. If this repository is not added to the user's sources.list file > by default then there is no advantage in setting up yet another > rep

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - made easy

2007-10-23 Thread Sam Morris
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:15:42 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Yes, we will need a separate archive for these packages which will be > hosted outside the US. I am not sure if d-i should offer to add these > sources (not sure if it's worth another question during installation), > but the URI could b

Re: Updating software-properties in testing

2007-10-23 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi André! You wrote: > The "new bug" is #435246 which is > resolved since July 31. I think it's time to update software-properties > and update-manager in testing. I think there was something wrong with the versioning in the bts (the bug was maked as found and fix

Re: Bug#439389: Changes in the xine-lib package require changes in xine-frontends

2007-10-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 22 octobre 2007 à 18:11 +0200, Reinhard Tartler a écrit : > libxine1-plugins will depend on libxine1-x and libxine1-console until > lenny. after lenny is released, these two dependencies will be > dropped. For that reason my initial announcement mail still stands > unchanged. Thanks, this

Updating software-properties in testing

2007-10-23 Thread André Wendt
Hi, I just checked the version of update-manager in testing and noticed on # update-manager is waiting for software-properties * python-software-properties (i386, alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc)

Re: Enabling and installing of "risky" ("patented") codecs - made easy

2007-10-23 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Thank you very much for your replies to my concern. However I'd like to comment on some of them until the thread dies acknowledged and forgotten... Daniel Baumann: > It's not actually dead, but in a kryogenic freeze. [...] Thanks for your answer. I hope you don't mind if I take over (active) m