Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-06-26 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 12:14 -0300, elementar wrote: > Where do I find kFreeBSD-amd64 isos, from testing or unstable? > > Em sex, 12 de abr de 2019 17:49, Joerg Jaspert > escreveu: > > Hi > > > > back in August 2018 we discussed architecture inclusion into > > unstable/experimental. > > > >

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-06-26 Thread elementar
Where do I find kFreeBSD-amd64 isos, from testing or unstable? Em sex, 12 de abr de 2019 17:49, Joerg Jaspert escreveu: > Hi > > back in August 2018 we discussed architecture inclusion into > unstable/experimental. > > Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both >

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-06-05 Thread Ansgar
Aurelien Jarno writes: > kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have now been moved to debian-ports. As > hurd-i386 has been moved earlier, it means that all the 3 architectures > have now been moved. I removed kfreebsd-* and hurd-i386 from ftp-master's unstable and experimental suites yesterday. The

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/26/19 1:22 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > [SN: Trimmed Cc list] > > Hi John My name is Adrian. Thanks. > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 06:48:36AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Could you PLEASE stop posting to debian-ports@? You are sending these mails >> to every Debian Ports

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-26 Thread Bastian Blank
[SN: Trimmed Cc list] Hi John On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 06:48:36AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Could you PLEASE stop posting to debian-ports@? You are sending these mails > to every Debian Ports architecture mailing list. Please stop shouting. Please fix your MUA to produce

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Aurelien Jarno >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 4:56 PM >> To: debian-h...@lists.debian.org; debian-...@lists.debian.org; debian- >> de...@lists.debian.org; debian-po...@lists.debian.org; ftpmaster@ports- >> master.debian.org >> Subject: Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} re

RE: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread i
: Aurelien Jarno > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 4:56 PM > To: debian-h...@lists.debian.org; debian-...@lists.debian.org; debian- > de...@lists.debian.org; debian-po...@lists.debian.org; ftpmaster@ports- > master.debian.org > Subject: Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal &g

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15413 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Thats ok, end of May is a nice point to take. Thanks for the work and the timeframe for the rest! kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have now been moved to debian-ports. As hurd-i386 has been moved earlier, it means that all the 3 architectures have now

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-05-25 13:00, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: > Hi, > > Em sáb, 25 de mai de 2019 às 10:57, Aurelien Jarno > escreveu: > > > > kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have now been moved to debian-ports. As > > hurd-i386 has been moved earlier, it means that all the 3 architectures > > have

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/25/19 1:00 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: > Not sure who's the admin (I couldn't find the admin address in the > main pages), but they're not registered in the graphs (while > powerpcpse, recently removed, still is). Could you please not use debian-ports@ unless you actually want to

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, Em sáb, 25 de mai de 2019 às 10:57, Aurelien Jarno escreveu: > > kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have now been moved to debian-ports. As > hurd-i386 has been moved earlier, it means that all the 3 architectures > have now been moved. Nice :-) Not sure who's the admin (I couldn't find the

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi, On 2019-04-24 12:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15381 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > > > It would be nice to have a bit more than 2 weeks to do all of that. > > > Ok. How much? Is 6 or 8 weeks better? I don't think, given how long this > > > is on the table already, it doesn't make

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15381 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > It would be nice to have a bit more than 2 weeks to do all of that. Ok. How much? Is 6 or 8 weeks better? I don't think, given how long this is on the table already, it doesn't make much difference if its 2 or 8. Just something thats clear defined

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-23 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-13 17:01, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15371 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > > How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the > > > time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. > > > The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the >

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan Carter, le lun. 22 avril 2019 21:42:33 +0200, a ecrit: > On 2019/04/22 20:00, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > So I could produce some hurd CD images with the archive from this > > week-end. Aurélien injected the hurd-i386 archive to debian-ports, and > > we got the buildds running. Various

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-22 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/04/22 20:00, Samuel Thibault wrote: > So I could produce some hurd CD images with the archive from this > week-end. Aurélien injected the hurd-i386 archive to debian-ports, and > we got the buildds running. Various scripts will start breaking but at > least package building will continue

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:16:54 +0200, a ecrit: > Holger Levsen, le sam. 13 avril 2019 09:50:25 +, a ecrit: > > I can see how the ftpteam doesnt want to delay this *after* the Buster > > release, > > Ok, if it can't be after Buster releases because e.g. ftpmaster wants

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-16 Thread Matthias Klose
On 13.04.19 17:01, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15371 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > >>> How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the >>> time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. > >> The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the >> deb,

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Aurelien Jarno, le dim. 14 avril 2019 16:08:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On 2019-04-12 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the > > time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. > > Note that there is no need for the removed architectures

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-12 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the > time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. Note that there is no need for the removed architectures to be hosted on debian-ports, especially if you are not

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! Just as a heads-up: Sending mail to debian-ports@l.d.o ends up sending the mail to debian-alpha@, debian-hppa@, debian-ia64@, ... simultaneously, so it would be better to avoid using this address in the discussion. Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15371 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-13 13:07, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 4/13/2019 12:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the > > deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug) and > > associate them with the .changes files that are hosted on

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 4/13/2019 12:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the > deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug) and > associate them with the .changes files that are hosted on coccia. We'll > also need to fetch all the

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Carsten Schoenert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:41:25 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 13.04.19 um 12:06 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > >> Both architectures haven't seen any major development in the past years > > > > They have. > > O.k. need to be more specific, so the same as you mentioned further > down, ..."in

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-12 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 22:48:42 +0200, a ecrit: > > back in August 2018 we discussed architecture inclusion into > > unstable/experimental. > > > > Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both > >

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:36:54 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > He rightfully means he does not want patches, but patches getting > > submitted upstream, so he does not have to maintain them. A Debian > > package maintainer is not

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Samuel, Am 13.04.19 um 12:06 schrieb Samuel Thibault: >> I can't follow that style of discussion. > > Please don't, Svante is only trolling here, please don't feed him. yes, this is true. As you've answered in your other email, such emails bringing no real gain or progress. >> I haven't seen a

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > He rightfully means he does not want patches, but patches getting > submitted upstream, so he does not have to maintain them. A Debian > package maintainer is not supposed to maintain patches long-term. Then the question of which

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:13:41 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 11:51 +0200, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > > So I disagree on "One person is enough" as long this one person can > > not keep track on all the required main and corner cases so other > > maintainers get to do the

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, le sam. 13 avril 2019 09:50:25 +, a ecrit: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > It seems to exist there,

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 11:51 +0200, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Am 13.04.19 um 11:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > > > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Carsten Schoenert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 11:51:51 +0200, a ecrit: > > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and kFreeBSD) happen. Or, if you > > still want

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 11:57:20 +0200, a ecrit: > That kind of mail is useless. I actually meant: it is also harmful. Samuel

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
That kind of mail is useless. Samuel

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 13.04.19 um 11:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and kFreeBSD) happen. Or, if you > still want to continue using apt-style

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > > is interested in

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 10:58 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Joerg Jaspert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 10:24:53 +0200, a ecrit: > > On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Well, it's very odd that a team decision is suddenly made with a > two-week effect without asking whether the schedule

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joerg Jaspert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 10:24:53 +0200, a ecrit: > On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > > > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. > > > Within a two-week timeframe only? > > (while

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. Within a two-week timeframe only? (while everybody is supposed to be busy fixing RC bugs) I just jumped over old threads -

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. > > Within a two-week timeframe only?

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bernd Zeimetz, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:32:32 +0200, a ecrit: > On 4/12/19 11:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Time will. I will have time later, but that'll be after the Buster > > release, i.e. a *way* less coherent set of packages since a flurry > > of package updates will happen, thus less

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > On 15370 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both > > > kfreebsd architecture and decided to remove them from unstable and > > > experimental 2 weeks from now.

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 4/12/19 11:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Time will. I will have time later, but that'll be after the Buster > release, i.e. a *way* less coherent set of packages since a flurry > of package updates will happen, thus less usable, if installable at > all. The only alternative I have is to

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15370 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both kfreebsd architecture and decided to remove them from unstable and experimental 2 weeks from now. Just before the Buster release? That's far from the easiest timing. There is

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bernd Zeimetz, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:14:10 +0200, a ecrit: > On 4/12/19 11:01 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I was hoping to do a non-official relase of Debian Hurd along Buster as > > usual, but a change of archive, which means uploading packages, fixing > > scripts, etc. will take a lot of

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 4/12/19 11:01 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I was hoping to do a non-official relase of Debian Hurd along Buster as > usual, but a change of archive, which means uploading packages, fixing > scripts, etc. will take a lot of time, which I simply just will not have > within the coming two-three

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 22:48:42 +0200, a ecrit: > back in August 2018 we discussed architecture inclusion into > unstable/experimental. > > Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both > kfreebsd architecture and decided to remove them from unstable