Hello!
while not having much experience on this I'd like to comment.
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 11:39:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Is the load from all those rblsmtpd process bigger than accepting the
email | procmail | spamassassin? I've no idea how many times
the typical spam
Does the -t option work in such a way, that if -t 10 was inserted,
then
the mail server would wait a maximum of 10 seconds for the lookup
requests
to be complete, and if they aren't complete, then ignore them and let
the
email through?
Sadly, that's not what I've understood. I've
procmail/spamassasin process mails yes inside the server, I just
give you a made up example:
60 Mails incoming per Minute,
5 seconds average Spamassasin procesing time per Mail
= 60-12 = 48 Mails per Minute piling up on your incoming mail
queue = 48 new Spamassasin
I've found that spamcop blocks email from both GE (General Electric) and
Pizza Hut mail servers which clients of mine need to receive.
I've found that no matter what RBL list I use there is always legitimate
mail being blocked and therefore useless for me as an global email
service provider.
On Thu, 2 May 2002 19:58, Glenn Hocking wrote:
I've found that spamcop blocks email from both GE (General Electric) and
Pizza Hut mail servers which clients of mine need to receive.
I've found that no matter what RBL list I use there is always legitimate
mail being blocked and therefore
I would love for it to work but I spent a couple of days tracking down why
some email (to do with payroll so was very important) was being bounced.
Turned out to be spamcop. As soon as I removed the rbl from my sendmail config
the mail started flowing again.
Problem seems to be that GE and
Speaking as an ISP that has to deal with spam complaints from our clients,
most people consider it spam if it was unrequested -- thus the definition of
Unsolicited Commercial Email. It's bad enough to have to deal with junk ads
through snail mail, but now we have to deal with junk ads in
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
procmail/spamassasin process mails yes inside the server, I just
give you a made up example:
60 Mails incoming per Minute,
5 seconds average Spamassasin procesing time per Mail
= 60-12 = 48 Mails per
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:24:57AM -0400, Gene Grimm wrote:
Speaking as an ISP that has to deal with spam complaints from our clients,
most people consider it spam if it was unrequested -- thus the definition of
Unsolicited Commercial Email. It's bad enough to have to deal with junk ads
On Thu, 2 May 2002 21:55, Glenn Hocking wrote:
I would love for it to work but I spent a couple of days tracking down
why some email (to do with payroll so was very important) was being
bounced.
Turned out to be spamcop. As soon as I removed the rbl from my sendmail
config the mail started
Bao Phan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
I just read your post, why don't you download it at:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/fileman/download.htm
Hmm, a reply to a 1year old post to a mailing list? Either you're a
really nice guy trying to help me out, or you're trying to get me to buy
a
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gene Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Spamassasin over RBL, was Re: rblsmtpd -t?]
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:24:57AM -0400, Gene Grimm wrote:
Speaking as an ISP that has
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
Well, they are not exactly comparable, as the rule-based Spamassassin
does things based on keywords and keyphrases and that kind of
thing, while RBLs do things based on actual spam activity. In my view,
the collateral damage of using
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:55:12PM +1000, Glenn Hocking wrote:
Seems that one persons advertising email is another persons spam.
no, the key difference between advertising email and spam is that spam
is unsolicited.
not all advertising email is spam, and not all spam is advertising.
if it
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:57:54PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
If you're in contact with any senior people at these companies suggest
to them that they use different mail servers (with different IP
addresses for outgoing traffic) for different purposes. Then when
their advertising server is
I *REALLY* hate it when these spammers try dictionary attacks. The
postmaster accounts fill up with thousands upon thousands of emails, until
they are over quota. Then the emails double/triple bounce to the admin of
the server (us).
Sincerely,
Jason
http://www.zentek-international.com
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Sometimes people forget that they signed up for a mailing list and when
some
content arrive they treat it as spam. But also some big companies just
genuinely think that an advert for their products is desired by millions
of
people and that they should send it out indiscriminately.
If
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 06:52:33PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
Well, they are not exactly comparable, as the rule-based Spamassassin
does things based on keywords and keyphrases and that kind of
thing, while RBLs do things based on actual spam activity. In my view,
the collateral damage of
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:55:12PM +1000, Glenn Hocking wrote:
Seems that one persons advertising email is another persons spam.
no, the key difference between advertising email and spam is that spam
is unsolicited.
not all advertising email is spam, and not all spam is advertising.
Then I started using Exim. It doesn't send bounces to the postmaster by
default. (I just view the queue daily and receive an eximstats -- log
anaylsist report -- daily.)
Don't configure your MTA to send copies of bounces to the postmaster.
Is that even possible with qmail? It seems to
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:11:39AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
Okay, i think it comes down to personal preference. I saw the
Spamassassin's rule list... someone typing in the word AMAZING
gets 0.125 or something points, FREE gets how many points, etc. All
it takes is for spammers to simply change
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jason Lim wrote:
Don't configure your MTA to send copies of bounces to the postmaster.
Is that even possible with qmail? It seems to junk everything into
postmaster.
Maybe the bounces were double-bounces. Anyways, look at the qmail-control
and qmail-send man pages. And
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:11:39AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
Okay, i think it comes down to personal preference. I saw the
Spamassassin's rule list... someone typing in the word AMAZING gets
0.125 or something points, FREE gets how many points, etc. All it takes
is for spammers to simply
I might also mention that it is not hard to get out of spamcop's
lists, even if you are listed. Unless a site continually gets spam
complaints, I think spamcop checks the RBL database ever 24hr... or
was
it every week... and removes stale/old entries. Try to get off some
of the OTHER
On Fri, 3 May 2002 00:43, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:57:54PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
If you're in contact with any senior people at these companies suggest
to them that they use different mail servers (with different IP
addresses for outgoing traffic) for different
On Fri, 3 May 2002 08:23, Craig Sanders wrote:
Yes, but here is the thing you did not mention. Spamcop does not
automatically block an IP just because a few people complained. It
takes into consideration the ENTIRE mail volume. So, using your
example, if the mailing list sends out 50,000
Hi again
Really the comparison between rbl lists is academic. It is good that
there are many different and evolving systems to block spam accordingly
with different success rates.
However from a 'email service provider' point of view (as per my
original email) I do not wish to block ANY
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 10:34:09AM +1000, Glenn Hocking wrote:
However from a 'email service provider' point of view (as per my
original email) I do not wish to block ANY legitimate email. The more
spam that is bounced the better BUT my requirement is purely 'If it
blocks legitimate email,
Yes, but here is the thing you did not mention. Spamcop does not
automatically block an IP just because a few people complained. It
takes into consideration the ENTIRE mail volume. So, using your
example, if the mailing list sends out 50,000 emails per day, and
some
cretin is, as
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 10:34:09AM +1000, Glenn Hocking wrote:
Hi again
However from a 'email service provider' point of view (as per my
original email) I do not wish to block ANY legitimate email. The more
spam that is bounced the better BUT my requirement is purely 'If it
blocks
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:44:28AM +1000, Jean-Francois Dive wrote:
Hi Jean-Francois,
well, quite sure you'll have to write them yourself...
Yes, it does look like it. I was hoping that someone may
have done them for a class.
Thanks.
Bao
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 12:09:50AM -0400, Bao C.
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