Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread Marcel Hicking
--Monday, August 16, 2004 09:39:48 +0200 "R.M. Evers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 18:08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 >> Terabyte). the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via [...] > we're using a backup se

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread R.M. Evers
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 10:19, Russell Coker wrote: > That read speed is quite poor. I would expect to see better speeds than that > from a single S-ATA disk! For several years people have been reporting > better speeds than that from 3ware controllers (although almost no-one tested > with as fe

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:39, "R.M. Evers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pci, the speeds are fairly good (surely not top of the bill though). the > configuration is 3-disk raid5. fyi, here's the hdparm test: > > /dev/sda: > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.43 seconds = 44.76 MB/sec That read

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-16 Thread R.M. Evers
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 18:08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > hello. > > we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 Terabyte). > the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via samba and nfs > (and probably appletalk), so i was thinking about a software-raid solution. > > ar

Re: which SATA-raid controller...

2004-08-15 Thread George Georgalis
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:08:31PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >hello. > >we are planning to set up a serial-ATA based fileserver (>1 Terabyte). >the host will be dedicated solely to serving files (via samba and nfs >(and probably appletalk), so i was thinking about a software-raid solution.

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Markus Schabel
Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 07:08:57PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? we're running an 2400 as fileserver for almost a year as RAID5 with an 2.4.18 without any problems, and we're running the 2410 as fileserver

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Ed Thomson
Russell Coker wrote: > > If you gave me a Promise card I would not use it, most reports of them are > not > positive. For what it's worth - and it's probably not worth alot, I have had an okay experience with the Promise 2-port SATA RAID card in mirror mode on a not heavily loaded machine. Des

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Markus Schabel
Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 07:08:57PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? we're running an 2400 as fileserver for almost a year as RAID5 with an 2.4.18 without any problems, and we're running the 2410 as fileserver

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Ed Thomson
Russell Coker wrote: > > If you gave me a Promise card I would not use it, most reports of them are not > positive. For what it's worth - and it's probably not worth alot, I have had an okay experience with the Promise 2-port SATA RAID card in mirror mode on a not heavily loaded machine. Despit

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Markus Oswald
Am Mi, den 24.03.2004 schrieb Craig Sanders um 00:31: > anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? > > they have driver support in 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels - no idea how good, > though. We have a 2410 in our backup-server working flawlessly with a 2.6.4 kernel. AFAIR i

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Craig, Am 2004-03-24 10:31:56, schrieb Craig Sanders: >anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? For two weeks I have gotten an Adaptec 2400 from for around 27 ¤ and attached 4 x WD 400EB (5400RPM) which are working very fine. >they h

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Marcin, Am 2004-03-23 18:10:23, schrieb Marcin Owsiany: >Hi! > >I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > >The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). >Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? YES, it works always

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Markus Oswald
Am Mi, den 24.03.2004 schrieb Craig Sanders um 00:31: > anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? > > they have driver support in 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels - no idea how good, though. We have a 2410 in our backup-server working flawlessly with a 2.6.4 kernel. AFAIR it d

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Craig, Am 2004-03-24 10:31:56, schrieb Craig Sanders: >anyone have any opinions about the adaptec 2400 (ATA) or 2410 (SATA)? For two weeks I have gotten an Adaptec 2400 from for around 27 ¤ and attached 4 x WD 400EB (5400RPM) which are working very fine. >they h

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Marcin, Am 2004-03-23 18:10:23, schrieb Marcin Owsiany: >Hi! > >I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > >The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). >Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? YES, it works always

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 04:10, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? If you gave me a P

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 04:10, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? If you gave me a P

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 07:08:57PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Marcin Owsiany schrieb am 23.03.04 um 18:10 Uhr: > > Hi! > > > > I need to choose between: > > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3War

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 18:10, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? > don't know about the pr

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 19:20 + Michael Kreilmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? The ICH is a piss poor IDE chipset. Originally developed only for server class machi

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 21:48 +0100 Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:38:11PM +0100, Andreas John wrote: Hello! I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) Please note that 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP only does RAID levels 0 and 1, in

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
I've an ICP Vortex GDT6528RS in my desktop, lovely little beasty! Not the fastest speed demon, but reliableWorks in Linux, FreeBSD, Win2K, WinXP, DOS, you name it. And not just 'oh we made it work but the drivers suck' they're all solid! --On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 21:34 +0100 Marc Schif

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 07:08:57PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Marcin Owsiany schrieb am 23.03.04 um 18:10 Uhr: > > Hi! > > > > I need to choose between: > > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3War

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:20:51PM +0100, Franz Georg Köhler wrote: > On Di, Mär 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I need to choose between: > > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > > > The Fast Track is a little

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 18:10, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? > don't know about the pr

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:38:11PM +0100, Andreas John wrote: > Hello! > > I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) > > IMHO: > 3ware is _hardware_ raid > Promise is pseudo-hardware (i.e. parity calc is done in the pc cpu) > >On Di, Mär 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Mar

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Michael Kreilmeier schrieb am 23.03.04 um 20:20 Uhr: > Hi! > > What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many > mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? > > Does anybody know wether you can hot-swap with a ICH5-R/Promise-System > or even Linux-Software-RAID, or n

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 19:20 + Michael Kreilmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? The ICH is a piss poor IDE chipset. Originally developed only for server class mach

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 21:48 +0100 Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:38:11PM +0100, Andreas John wrote: Hello! I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) Please note that 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP only does RAID levels 0 and 1, in

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Loftis
I've an ICP Vortex GDT6528RS in my desktop, lovely little beasty! Not the fastest speed demon, but reliableWorks in Linux, FreeBSD, Win2K, WinXP, DOS, you name it. And not just 'oh we made it work but the drivers suck' they're all solid! --On Tuesday, March 23, 2004 21:34 +0100 Marc Schif

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:20:51PM +0100, Franz Georg Köhler wrote: > On Di, Mär 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I need to choose between: > > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > > > The Fast Track is a little che

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:38:11PM +0100, Andreas John wrote: > Hello! > > I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) > > IMHO: > 3ware is _hardware_ raid > Promise is pseudo-hardware (i.e. parity calc is done in the pc cpu) > >On Di, Mär 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Mar

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Michael Kreilmeier schrieb am 23.03.04 um 20:20 Uhr: > Hi! > > What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many > mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? > > Does anybody know wether you can hot-swap with a ICH5-R/Promise-System > or even Linux-Software-RAID, or n

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Kreilmeier
Hi! What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? Does anybody know wether you can hot-swap with a ICH5-R/Promise-System or even Linux-Software-RAID, or not? Regards, Michael Kreilmeier

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Marcin Owsiany schrieb am 23.03.04 um 18:10 Uhr: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? > IMO 3ware are the only

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Andreas John
Hello! I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) IMHO: 3ware is _hardware_ raid Promise is pseudo-hardware (i.e. parity calc is done in the pc cpu) Promise(tx4000 based?) offers a (GPL) 2.4x kernel driver, but not as kernel patch but as separate module, i.e. you have to

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
On Di, MÃr 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2)

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Michael Kreilmeier
Hi! What would be the disadvantage of a ICH5-R based RAID (ships with many mainboards) over a Promise pseudo-hardware-RAID? Does anybody know wether you can hot-swap with a ICH5-R/Promise-System or even Linux-Software-RAID, or not? Regards, Michael Kreilmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Marcin Owsiany schrieb am 23.03.04 um 18:10 Uhr: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3Ware? > IMO 3ware are the only

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Andreas John
Hello! I would recommend to take both and tell us about your experience ;-) IMHO: 3ware is _hardware_ raid Promise is pseudo-hardware (i.e. parity calc is done in the pc cpu) Promise(tx4000 based?) offers a (GPL) 2.4x kernel driver, but not as kernel patch but as separate module, i.e. you have t

Re: Which SATA RAID controller?

2004-03-23 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
On Di, MÃr 23, 2004 at 06:10:23 +0100, Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I need to choose between: > - 3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP > - Promise Fast Track S150 TX4 > > The Fast Track is a little cheaper, and has 4 interfaces (3Ware only 2). > Is there any good reason to choose 3War