Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Max Kellermann writes: Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if anything should be supported, then Tomcat. The person who imported it in the RHUG project (sources.redhat.com/rhug) says that the servlet are working fine but JSP doesn't work yet. Feel

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements that libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter.

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Tom Tromey writes: libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter. I'm always amazed that people don't know that. It has been in the code for over 2 years now. RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared object instead of a bytecode file.

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max I'm really looking forward to the gcj version that's stable and Max mature enough for everything.. cool project IMHO. When you say `everything', what do you mean? Java changes constantly. No free software implementation will ever keep up

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max So if libgcj interprets the bytecode of dynamically loaded Max classes (or even whole applications like it is the case in Max Tomcat), this means that they do not run at native speed. They Max run at the speed of libgcj's integrated JVM. If my

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Max Kellermann writes: Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if anything should be supported, then Tomcat. The person who imported it in the RHUG project (sources.redhat.com/rhug) says that the servlet are working fine but JSP doesn't work yet. Feel

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements that libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter.

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Tom Tromey writes: libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter. I'm always amazed that people don't know that. It has been in the code for over 2 years now. RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared object instead of a bytecode file.

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max I'm really looking forward to the gcj version that's stable and Max mature enough for everything.. cool project IMHO. When you say `everything', what do you mean? Java changes constantly. No free software implementation will ever keep up

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
Max == Max Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max So if libgcj interprets the bytecode of dynamically loaded Max classes (or even whole applications like it is the case in Max Tomcat), this means that they do not run at native speed. They Max run at the speed of libgcj's integrated JVM. If my

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: On 0, Per Bothner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded using custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other variant) files. gcj

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Per Bothner
Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded using custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other variant)

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Steffen Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to get Java running on my Debian box. What is the best procedure? apt-get install java-virtual-machine This will list all available packages providing a JVM. Select one and install it via apt-get. I have heard about various different

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-12 Thread Adam Heath
Package: libgcj2 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Per Bothner wrote: Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: apt-get install java-virtual-machine This will list all available packages providing a JVM. I trust gcj/libgcj is so listed? (I'm not running Debian on my own machines so I can't check easily.) If it

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Steffen Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to get Java running on my Debian box. What is the best procedure? apt-get install java-virtual-machine This will list all available packages providing a JVM. Select one and install it via apt-get. I have heard about various different

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-12 Thread Per Bothner
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: apt-get install java-virtual-machine This will list all available packages providing a JVM. I trust gcj/libgcj is so listed? (I'm not running Debian on my own machines so I can't check easily.) The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're running server-style

New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-08 Thread Steffen Evers
Hi, I would like to get Java running on my Debian box. What is the best procedure? I have heard about various different Javas: Sun, IBM, Blackdown, Kafe(?), ... So, I wonder what the differences are and which advantages each has. Are there any Debian packages for woody available? I have noticed

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-08 Thread Noel Koethe
On Don, 08 Nov 2001, Steffen Evers wrote: Hello, Are there any Debian packages for woody available? I have noticed several packages with java in there name, but no jdk or sdk. So, where can I find them? You can use the Sun SDK from on of the mirrors from Blackdown: