Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-04-07 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:00:00 +0200 Mark Weyer wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:57:39PM +0930, Karl Goetz wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I was wondering if you found any licences that fit what you were > > looking for? I didnt see a resolution to the thread [1] the first > > time around. > > No, I hav

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-04-05 Thread Mark Weyer
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:57:39PM +0930, Karl Goetz wrote: > Hi Mark, > I was wondering if you found any licences that fit what you were > looking for? I didnt see a resolution to the thread [1] the first time > around. No, I have not. I am still open to suggestions lest I have to add to license

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-04-05 Thread Karl Goetz
Hi Mark, I was wondering if you found any licences that fit what you were looking for? I didnt see a resolution to the thread [1] the first time around. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2009/01/msg00072.html kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian user / gNewSense contributor

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote: > > Bad example, but the same warning is on Sainsbury's Shelled Walnuts > > 300g, which I'm pretty sure are nuts and can be looked up on > > http://www.sainsburys.com/groceries/ > > Consider how hard it would be to have

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-29 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote: > Bad example, but the same warning is on Sainsbury's Shelled Walnuts > 300g, which I'm pretty sure are nuts and can be looked up on > http://www.sainsburys.com/groceries/ Consider how hard it would be to have the law say "products must contain warnings about nut

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-25 Thread MJ Ray
Adam Sampson wrote: > This warning isn't as silly as it sounds: peanuts are legumes rather > than nuts, so if you're allergic to nuts you may still be able to eat Bad example, but the same warning is on Sainsbury's Shelled Walnuts 300g, which I'm pretty sure are nuts and can be looked up on http:

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-23 Thread Joe Smith
"Anthony W. Youngman" wrote: Actually, iiuc, no they are not. It sounds like the LGPL 2 would satisfy your requirements. And while there is no LGPL 3 (and I don't think there will be), the GPL 3 has optional relaxation clauses, one of which makes it a replacement for the LGPL. There most

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Greg Harris
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:25:51 + "Anthony W. Youngman" wrote: > In message <20090121115624.27b9b...@glh-hp-dv2940se>, Greg Harris > writes > >On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:14:37 -0800 > >Steve Langasek wrote: > > > >> > >> No, he's saying that if you *commit a tort against someone located > >> in U

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:25:51PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > At the end of the day, what I do, I do it IN ENGLAND, No, you don't. When you post to this mailing list, you are deliberately engaged in an act that crosses national boundaries (both your interlocutors in this discussion, and

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090121115624.27b9b...@glh-hp-dv2940se>, Greg Harris writes On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:14:37 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: No, he's saying that if you *commit a tort against someone located in Utah*, you are subject to Utah state law. If you've committed a tort against someone locate

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Greg Harris
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:14:37 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:45:23PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > >>> But surely, in order to do so, you must have broken a Federal > >>> statute? Not knowing the American legal system, I find it very > >>> odd that you could be sued

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:45:23PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: >>> But surely, in order to do so, you must have broken a Federal statute? >>> Not knowing the American legal system, I find it very odd that you could >>> be sued in Utah, or in California under Utah law, if you've never been >>>

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Adam Sampson
"Anthony W. Youngman" writes: > Dry Roast Peanuts > Caution! This product may contain nuts! This warning isn't as silly as it sounds: peanuts are legumes rather than nuts, so if you're allergic to nuts you may still be able to eat peanuts provided they've not been mixed with other nuts during pr

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-21 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <200901201403.48978.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg writes On Tuesday 20 January 2009 12:49:28 pm Anthony W. Youngman wrote: No it's not a problem at all. What IS the problem is that you are telling me I should abide by American law, when I am not American, have only ever ONCE set

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-20 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 12:49:28 pm Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <200901191340.03678.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg > writes > >On Monday 19 January 2009 11:59:13 am Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > >> In message <200901191101.08985.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg > >> writes > >>

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-20 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <200901191340.03678.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg writes On Monday 19 January 2009 11:59:13 am Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message <200901191101.08985.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg writes >Stated a tad more fairly to those who have asked Fancesco to add >disclaimers... Fra

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Sean Kellogg wrote: >On Monday 19 January 2009 02:03:32 am Ben Finney wrote: >> >> He apparently finds it best to include these disclaimers to forestall >> such ire. Which is a perfectly valid position for him to take, given >> the persistence of said ire, and its peculiar tendency to be directed

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 19 January 2009 11:59:13 am Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <200901191101.08985.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg > writes > >Stated a tad more fairly to those who have asked Fancesco to add > >disclaimers... Francesco has a tendency to state opinions a little too > >"matter-o

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <200901191101.08985.skell...@gmail.com>, Sean Kellogg writes Stated a tad more fairly to those who have asked Fancesco to add disclaimers... Francesco has a tendency to state opinions a little too "matter-of-factly" for some d-l participents, leading those who disagree to accuse him

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 19 January 2009 02:03:32 am Ben Finney wrote: > Дмитрий Ледков writes: > > > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > [...] > > > Same disclaimers as before: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. > > > > Erhhhmm. What do these stand for? I can only guess IANADD from > > mentors list - does it stand

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:03:32 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > Дмитрий Ледков writes: > > > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > [...] > > > Same disclaimers as before: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. > > > > Erhhhmm. What do these stand for? I can only guess IANADD from > > mentors list - does it stand fo

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Дмитрий Ледков writes: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > [...] > > Same disclaimers as before: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. > > Erhhhmm. What do these stand for? I can only guess IANADD from > mentors list - does it stand for I am not a Debian Developer? What > about the others? For reasons

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Mark Weyer
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 09:26:20AM +, Дмитрий Ледков wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > In other words, you want to maximize compatibility with other copyleft > > licenses and still have a copyleft license... > > I think these two requirements are _very_ hard to satisfy at the same > > time; it

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-19 Thread Дмитрий Ледков
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:27:16 +0100 Mark Weyer wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply. > > You're welcome! :) > >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 05:43:05PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > [...] > In other words, you want to maximize compatibility with other copyleft > licenses and still

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:27:16 +0100 Mark Weyer wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. You're welcome! :) > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 05:43:05PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > Hence, I think your desiderata are somewhat inconsistent. > > I think what you refer to, is what GNU calls strong c

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Mark Weyer
Thanks for your reply. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 05:43:05PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:58:06 +0100 Mark Weyer wrote: > > [...] > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:49:35PM +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > > > - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other > > >

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > So if I use a little bit of copyleft code in my program I have to > make the whole lot free? If you don't want to require this, you don't want copyleft. There's no license that I'm aware of that distinguishes between "little bit, but still copyrigh

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090118174305.620e0088@firenze.linux.it>, Francesco Poli writes On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:49:35PM +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other > software. [...] Maybe I should have been less terse. - With "source requiremen

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:58:06 +0100 Mark Weyer wrote: [...] > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:49:35PM +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > > - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other > > software. [...] > Maybe I should have been less terse. > - With "source requirement" I meant that

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Mark Weyer
Sorry if this breaks threading. Subscription was not as quick as I thought. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:49:35PM +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other > software. > - No additional burden on anyone. In particular no requirements for > de

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Дмитрий Ледков
Mark Weyer wrote: > I have a small software project which I intend to release soon. > I have already looked at several free (or, in some cases, claimed to > be free) licenses, but I have not found one which I found convincing. > > What I am looking for: > - Copyleft with source requirement, but sh

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Дмитрий Ледков
Heya David Paleino wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:49:35 +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > >> What I am looking for: >> - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other >> software. >> - No additional burden on anyone. In particular no requirements for >> derivatives

Re: Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread David Paleino
Hello, On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:49:35 +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: > What I am looking for: > - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other > software. > - No additional burden on anyone. In particular no requirements for > derivatives to advertize, to not advertize, to follo

Which license am I looking for?

2009-01-18 Thread Mark Weyer
I have a small software project which I intend to release soon. I have already looked at several free (or, in some cases, claimed to be free) licenses, but I have not found one which I found convincing. What I am looking for: - Copyleft with source requirement, but should not contaminate other