Am Don, den 04.12.2003 schrieb nico dreher um 16:35:
Thanks for your help!
1.
I edited XF86Config-4 and .xmodmaprc as suggested.
2.
But @ still won't work. Instead I get:
Alt-Gr = ç.
I get no #, |, [, ], {, }, etc. but ¶, µ,
I have no problems with these keys. Are you using xfree86
On 3 Dec, this message from Gaudenz Steinlin echoed through cyberspace:
How about the one attached below? It's for my swiss-french keyboard,
but I suppose most of the things you're looking for are identical.
Physically swiss french and swiss german keyboards are identical. The
keymap only
Am Mit, den 03.12.2003 schrieb Mich Lanners um 21:26:
Hi,
On 2 Dec, this message from nico dreher echoed through cyberspace:
I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German
qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
Hi,
On 2 Dec, this message from nico dreher echoed through cyberspace:
I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German
qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200308/
x-tad-biggerHello list,
I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200308/msg00182.html (see quoted below).
However I am looking for an
I was concerned about the keys that differ on an Apple keyboard,
compared to a PC keyboard. Like control, option, apple, vs. control,
windows, alt, altgt and the other 2 keys. Maybe these can be redefined
after including the main rules/xfree86 file.
Yes, they can. The number of keys that are
On Tue, Aug 26, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote:
The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS
does.
So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of
questions.
The first is about the changes you made to
On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote:
The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS
does.
So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of questions.
The first is about the changes you made to the macintosh keycodes file. I
like the new
Hi Frank
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:27, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:57, Andreas Wüst wrote:
But hey, thank you very much!! I've now lost a bit track, testing all
the new laptop keymap versions and its patches. But from my point of
view, this seems to lead to the right solution.
I've attached a patch here that should apply to the
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote:
--- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100
+++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200
@@ -56,6 +56,7 @@
pc105nodeadkeys = en_US(pc105%_v)+%l%(v)
microsoft
On Mon, Aug 25, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote:
--- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100
+++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200
@@ -56,6 +56,7 @@
pc105nodeadkeys =
On Monday 25 August 2003 2:55, Michel Dnzer wrote:
(How) does this work with layouts other than us? And how do you get
laptop with nodeadkeys?
It doesn't. Sorry about that. I went to quickly and was seduced by the idea of
the variant. :) I've attached a patch that does it more like you had,
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 22:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
My point for having an apple file is that I'd like the macintosh symbol maps
to be based on the default symbols. That way, when changes like the
ISO_Shift_Level/Mode_switch and alt_is_meta happen, the Apple keyboards stay
current.
And why
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works OK as a
default. I'll probably add another variation
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
OK, I
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:23, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:17, Emmanuel Eckard wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 13:31, Frank Murphy wrote:
The problem is that Mode_switch and Multi_key can't be assigned to the same
keycode or keysym with only a level-shift to separate them. The third- and
fourth-levels are useless because Mode_switch must be pressed before they can
be used
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 1:32, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wst wrote:
fn+alt+6:
KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353),
state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e,
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20 (Multi_key)
Or does anybody _really_ need that stupid enter key? :)
--
Hi Frank
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols
worked. For example, I could get [
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wst wrote:
fn+alt+6:
KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353),
state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen
YES,
XLookupString gives 0
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols
worked. For example, I could get [ (fn+alt+5), but I couldn't get ]
(fn+alt+6). { and } was
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 21:01, Rogrio Brito wrote:
On Aug 14 2003, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I use Delete (xmodmapped it to Shift+Backspace) for deleting mail, so
it's important to me. :) Dunno about the majority of people though.
And how do you do that? The same way I posted some time ago?
I
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 17:43, Frank Murphy wrote:
Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ?
What about apps which use these combos for
Ah, right. Because Mac OS only uses the Alt key to generate 'odd'
characters, but we use it for more. It sucks that Apple wired the iBooks
so that the Alt_R key is a pain to get to. The Enter key on my iBook is
in a good place (between the spacebar and right alt key)...
Indeed. Unless
Hi Frank
Ok, I am finally back! And thanks again for your answer!
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 09:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
Option XkbSymbols de_CH+group(switch)
Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but,
uhhm, this has to be the so called
On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:37, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is
often used for AltGr on European keyboards,
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
standard way?
Can't
Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
standard way?
What exactly do you mean by that? Same as in Mac OS? It has very
different requirements for modifiers, doesn't it?
Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {,
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:58, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
used for AltGr on
Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ?
What about apps which use these combos for something else? I agree that
something-G should yield
On Aug 14 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
I use Delete (xmodmapped it to Shift+Backspace) for deleting mail, so
it's important to me. :) Dunno about the majority of people though.
And how do you do that? The same way I posted some time ago? Does it
work for all clients (like, xterm/rxvt)?
[]s,
Option XkbSymbols de_CH+group(switch)
Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but,
uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at-your-co-workers-option,
no? ;)
But serious, the effect was quite interesting. No keys except the number
keys were working, not
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wst wrote:
I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the
difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the lacking
keypad?
Other lacking keys and duplicate keys, for example.
--
Earthling Michel Dnzer \ Debian
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 10:56, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 10:32, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wst wrote:
I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the
difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
standard way?
Can't think of much else except UAE wanting right ctrl e.g., I
Hi Frank
Thanks a lot for your help!
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:28, Frank Murphy wrote:
Aha, I see. But, hmm, this doesn't seem to be a laptop specific problem,
no? I have to be honest, I don't understand the Mode_switch problem
anyway. When using the stock settings, i.e.
Option
Hi David
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 17:45, David Oakes wrote:
Andreas Wüst wrote:
Attention: I am not sure if this also holds for machines using gdm, xdm,
etc. I *think* I had read that there would be some mechanism provided by
these session managers to handle .Xmodmap files.
I just ask
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wst wrote:
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
why is this so)??
Because nobody has bothered yet to fix the keymaps / create variants
better suited
Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wst wrote:
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
why is this so)??
Because nobody has bothered yet to fix the keymaps / create
Hi Michel
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 18:43, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
why is this so)??
Because nobody
Hi Andreas
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:33, Andreas Tobler wrote:
Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
why is this
Hi David
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 14:14, David Oakes wrote:
Andreas Wüst wrote:
Hi David
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 17:45, David Oakes wrote:
There is an F12, so F13, etc, might be a good place to start. Thanks.
You can also map it to other keys which you don't need.
Since I am not using
Hi
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 19:14, Andreas Wüst wrote:
Hi Markus
Thanks a lot for your fast answer!!
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:43, Markus Frauenfelder wrote:
Hello
Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
I would be very thankful if someone could
Andreas Wüst wrote:
Attention: I am not sure if this also holds for machines using gdm, xdm,
etc. I *think* I had read that there would be some mechanism provided by
these session managers to handle .Xmodmap files.
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well,
Hi
Thanks to a stupidity of mine I had to reinstall on my TiBook I.
Unfortunately, I hadn't had the chance to backup my config files before,
so I lost everything. Since it's a long time ago, I forgot how I
configured my keyboard for use with the x window system, i.e. to be able
to reach the at,
Hello
Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
I would be very thankful if someone could post his XF86Config-4
regarding swiss german keyboards, and hint about other modifications.
I guess you are looking for this:
Option XkbRules xfree86
Hi Markus
Thanks a lot for your fast answer!!
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:43, Markus Frauenfelder wrote:
Hello
Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
I would be very thankful if someone could post his XF86Config-4
regarding swiss german keyboards, and hint
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