reason to
upload it to pypi or other platforms.
Also the bug you've linked clearly states that Debian and other
distributions can name their packages as they like to
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you might be able to join form whereever you are at that moment :)
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don't know (and actually I don't want to know) whats going on in the brain of
some people. Debian is a large project that attracts people from all over the
world, so there will be always people with opinions and backgrounds that we
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e a DD would be an extra bonus.
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like a very good idea to me, if it helps
the ftp team to be faster. At the same time we'll get hints to license
violations from our upstreams...
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ds, but it's not
reasonable to hold them to superhuman standards.
No, either we have a CoC or not.
If it goes so much against your believes, humanity or whatever else,
that you can't answer in a sane language, ask somebody else to answer
in your name. Especially when you are in a team that wants to k
posed to do or not.
Git is like your favorite car. You can buy one from VW with
maybe-broken-software, it will serve you well until it dies.
Or you can build your own "free" car, it will serve you well until it dies.
Would you like it that various people tell you not to drive
o sane things.
Brend
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nts
> and similar stuff. As I see it, the next BSP will happen in a month in
> Vaumarcus...
and ack...
There are way more important things to do than to discuss the place of
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gt; (for example) to add some kind of CI/CD for all packages.
>
> Cheers,
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at? I think this entire thread is nothing more
> than a stalking horse for Ian's crusade to get everyone to use dgit and we
> should just move on.
Absolutely.
Nobody should be forced to use a tool - or not.
Also if you want to send a pull request and don't want to use gi
is not involved in Debian politics at all.
A view that is not biased at all makes much more sense, especially
when people in the project do not like the outcome...
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mediate an issue. In my opinion, all kinds of decisions should be done
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r login/account requirements, though.
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the things I actually want to create.
no, sorry.
but its rather easy to install. php and a database and you are done.
authentication in integration into other tools is a different thing, though.
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reply they obviously try to contact you again.
That's also my experience. Works fine for me.
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distribute non-distributable
stuff when people upload buggy packages. So there is no real way to run
this as official Debian service imho.
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mentors is a special case here as it might distribute non-distributable
stuff when people upload buggy packages. So there is no real way to run
this as official Debian service imho
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The first result points to a list of logos by MiriamRuiz, which includes
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Otherwise I really like the idea!
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Good idea!
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on this specification over the years.
+The following alphabetical list is incomplete,
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automatically, even if it means that we need to spend time to write tools
to do so (yes, I know this is not an easy task).
So my opinion in short words: DEP-5 is a nice idea, but too far away from
reality.
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On 08/12/2010 03:27 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On to, 2010-08-12 at 14:59 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
On 08/12/2010 02:45 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
It would be good to have DEP-5 done quite early in the squeeze+1
development cycle to give as much time as possible for adoption.
A few
care for the architechture
they are buildd maintaining for should try hard handing over that
responsibility to someone who does care for the arch.
Or they should work closely with the porters to notify them about build logs
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Also Debian Developers are able to upload stuff, therefore uploaders. No no,
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people should not fight against such a stupid law. Instead they should
spend their time to fight against DRM and any kind of lock which cripples
today's medias.
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any work on
this, a (good) release is much more important than bringing the muddy fights of
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is a community effort mostly - you can get a release
quicker or longer security support for a release, if you pay somebody to do so.
There are several companies and consultants who employ/are Debian developers and
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On 05/12/2010 09:41 PM, Martin Schulze wrote:
Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
On 05/12/2010 04:27 PM, Martin Schulze wrote:
I would like us to provide non-free firmware blobs that may be
required during installation in tarballs that can be downloaded or -
Downloading is exactly the problem. A lot
On 05/13/2010 04:18 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote:
Using only 'free' software might make them happier, but the first thing
people
look for is less pain in the ass while installing and maintaining a system.
We
are not in a perfect
at the download statistics and see, if we want
to continue that...
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On 05/06/2010 07:22 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:26:55PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
I can't see a reason why we should not be able to ship cd-images in
non-free.
What do you exactly mean by that?
I can imagine at least two different interpretations of it:
1
image.
Right. It works, but it is an annoying extra step to do. And I had more than one
customer asking me why Debian is forcing them to do such an extra step and why
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- it was never properly discussed and accepted before. If we switch to a
dependency based boot system, why to this mess from SuSE called insserv?
There was a *ton* of discussion of insserv across multiple mailing lists
over a period
anything missing in file-rc, it just works well.
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pseudo-essential that should never happen, IOW: IMO they are not grave (I
do agree that they should be addressed, though).
Wrong. People who want to switch away from sys-rc/insserv need to be able to
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magic. One of the reasons I migrated away from SuSE long time ago was the mess
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confidence that
they will be addressed. But I think insserv doesn't permit removal is the
least important of these.
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| rather a very grave bug.
Downgrades have never been officially supported, though. Isn't this
approximately the same thing?
We're not talking about a downgrade here, but about removing a package.
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Did anybody check if upstart and runit still work with insserv?
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No, decimal numbers are the superior design here as they just work without
any
magic. One of the reasons I migrated away from SuSE long time ago was the
mess
called insserv...
There are reports of init script not working
Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:55:36AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:38:56 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
How does Ubuntu want to do a proper (commercial) support for their packages
if
they don't even have the time/manpower to take care of their bugs
it
would.
That happens already. See the Python 2.6 migration for a lot of bad examples...
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Luk Claes wrote:
Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Sandro Tosi wrote:
what can happen is that he prepare a rough solution, sent to debian in
a sense hey, take it, I've done my work, it's an ugly hack but I have
no time to prepare an elegant solution; Now I got to go, I have
another 1000 things to do
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The only problem I see is that it starts to become complicated as soon as you
want to run a daemon, as the .pyc files are not compiled yet when the daemon is
started.
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There is nothing bad with a fixed freeze date. Just with the way it was planned
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. Unfortunately various Ubuntu-related things had imho a pretty bad
influence on Debian (I'm saving the time to repeat them here, there are enough
mails from various people from the last days stating the problems), so it is not
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can't to be a real free Software.
It would be *really* amazing if Opera would become free software. The browser is
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Mark Brown wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 04:13:03PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
I rarely hear anything positive from Ubuntu, except that more and more people
who are active in Ubuntu realized that it is much better to do things in
Debian
directly.
IME the quality of interaction from
to have a look what they're doing. At the end this
will help Ubuntu, too - if they manage to change their freeze time to an
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Aligning our releases with RHEL rather than with Ubuntu seems more
worthwhile to me. They have similar stabilisation lengths as we did
for previous releases and they're investing a lot of work into the
kernel, from which we could profit immensely.
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I have setup http://news.debian.net/ where I intend to publish and link
[...]
Hope you like it.
The idea is really good in general, but I - and probably a lot of other
developers - would have preferred if you'd be using ikiwiki and a public git on
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Of course its not easy to find a date which makes all teams completely happy,
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Steve Langasek wrote:
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count me in.
me too. Obviously we need to force the release team to talk with the
important teams in Debian. If i'd have to come up with a GR it would
probably sound like While we appreciate the plan
at the embassies - I guess it would make sense to give
them a chance to meet for keysigning, too.
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Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (26/07/2009):
See above. Also: There're a lot of teams where outsiders can help and
earn trust without being able to break things.
Do you mean people like Simon Paillard? With contributions in l10n,
i18n, www, and mirror domains?
Yes
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But I know that there are/will be DDs which do infrastructure stuff only, and
rarely upload packages. Such DDs should never be regarded as MIA, of course.
I am not convinced of this. Infrastructure
probably. But voting is a good thing to look at, definitely.
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Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
* DDs which are not active for 2 years or more automatically loose
vote and upload rights.
* Activity is defined
(though that's more of a theoretical concern than a practical one).
There are templates for doc writers, and it should not be too hard to work out
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Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Bernd Zeimetz said:
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in
these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks anyway...) that it
doesn't register at all
it
failed again.
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wrong there. Once I'm finished to clean up those candidates which are
assigned to their AM since years and went away, I'll start to keep an eye on the
length of the process.
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Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Ahh... the old dear bureaucracy!
It is not my task, so go away and never come back ;-)
Is it so difficult that a cronjob will call two scripts and merge the
results
in a single mail?
yes.
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the things a DD needs to know
is a slow but steady one. Your AM is happy with that, so I can't see a problem
here.
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Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:32:14AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in
these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks anyway...) that it
doesn't
if somebody with spare time could write a cronjob
which compares the account names in the NM database with the output of getent
and set the account created field I didn't find the time for it yet...
Cheers,
Bernd
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with a subject
for that mail, after all, the
AM should know the applicant enough to be able to write that up,
right?
No need for that. Read debian-newmaint for a summary if you're interested,
that's why the AM report is posted there. Definitely I'm not going to ask our
AMs to do such additional work.
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