Re: CD Images

2015-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 04:51:08PM -0800, Dave Turner wrote: > Looks like al the links to CD/DVD images on your main site are broken, > due to cdimage.debian.org not resolving. Works for me. Greetings Marc --

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Marc Haber
Russ' assessment of the situation. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-29 Thread Marc Haber
ryday signing and encryption keys? Can I have a master certification key on one device and subkeys on another one? Can I also have this when the private parts of master and sub keys have been generated on different devices? Greetings Marc -- -

Re: wanted: ... key dongles GNUK is available

2017-08-29 Thread Marc Haber
studio.com store? Or the japanese store on http://www.gniibe.org/category/shop.html? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose t

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-29 Thread Marc Haber
available", for example in a Gnuk on my keychain next to the key to my home? - Which (set of) keys goes to the key servers? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mail

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 04:07:45PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 29 Aug 2017, Marc Haber wrote: > > - Which key goes on the paper slab that everybody uses to collect > > signatures? The certification only master key? > > The main key fingerprint. Wh

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:09:38AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:34:35PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > Their web page says that it will only suppor 2048 bit RSA keys, which is > > the limitation of most USB crypto tokens on the market today. The > &

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:42:13PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:17:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:09:38AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > > > The Start is based on the GnuK and I think should be upgradable to do 4K &

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
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Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 01:52:54PM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote: > Am 2017-08-30 09:01, schrieb Marc Haber: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 04:07:45PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > > wrote: > > > The **public** portion of *every* key (master and all subkeys) go into &

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Haber
ive being on my keychain for a reasonable time due to its fragility. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Wi

Re: Security advisory for YubiKey 4: RSA generation broken

2017-10-17 Thread Marc Haber
ore not affected. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Project to improve Debian support model

2017-10-22 Thread Marc Haber
redirect the occasional mis-led user to the real support channels. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Wi

Re: Power-Management

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Haber
to complain. Alas, I don't have the slightest idea why, maybe somebody can shed a light on that. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, G

Re: Power-Management

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Haber
er non-100 percentage? Unfortunately laptop-mode-tools conflicts tlp which is currently my tool to implement the battery saving charge limit. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They

Re: Power-Management

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 04:30:06PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Marc Haber - 26.04.18, 15:12: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:12:40PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > > > laptop-mod-mode tools seems to put the laptop into pretty optimal > > > settings without me havi

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-06-28 Thread Marc Haber
Debian? Can we probably find consensus abut having one "Free Software Month" in the year? Greetings Marc, caring about technology -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse i

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-01 Thread Marc Haber
p Debian about technology and bring Debian back to technical leadership. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-02 Thread Marc Haber
ot imply that we're not welcoming $GROUP all the other time? I'd hate to not welcome blue haired people outside their "welcome blue hair" month. Why dont we just welcome people based on the technology they care for? Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-02 Thread Marc Haber
aren't welcome here. If someone > is a bigot and wants to spew out hatred and propaganda on our platforms, > I'll be one of the first to make a call that they be kicked out. Amen. Greetings Marc -- - Ma

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-02 Thread Marc Haber
with white lines in the entrance hall (thereby covering their logo that was woven in the regular carpet) and put up a soccer goal during the world championship. I don't care about the multi-million euro business that masquerades itself as "sports", and I hated it. Greetings Marc --

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Haber
m proud of being German" > > is an unacceptable antisemitic expression, nearly synonymous to > > "I am proud of the holocaust". > [...] > > This. This and the rest of your post. > You nailed it. I fully agree with Adrian. We have a cultural issue here. Greetings

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Haber
rds around against him. No German company would change its logo for a pride month, and if they did, other minorities would sue for their own logo month on basis of discrimination. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | &qu

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Haber
: https://europride2019.at/sponsors-partners/ Did any of those companies change their website logo for a month? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Le

Re: Results of the Antiharassment Team Survey

2019-07-13 Thread Marc Haber
least it is not what I want. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch

Re: Results of the Antiharassment Team Survey

2019-07-15 Thread Marc Haber
s they write and say to shut up and not feel welcome any more in the project. Is that what we want? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Ger

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-09-12 Thread Marc Haber
s going the same road as the "editorial changes" two decades ago, the first occasion where my motivation in Debian was damaged. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. Th

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Marc Haber
one X121e in daily use ¹ it really sucks to be required to have a disk with a never-used Windows installation sitting on the shelf just to make the support tech happy -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't tru

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Marc Haber
, I don't currently see that a Debian rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have more important things to spend our personpower on that are not alreadys solved downstream. Greetings Marc -- -----

Re: Debian and GG

2021-04-21 Thread Marc Haber
find legitimate, I would not call this a Spam mail. -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Debian and GitLab Open Source Partnership

2021-07-26 Thread Marc Haber
Alone going for Gitlab as the software platform for Salsa was problematic, but OK for me due to lack of a viable alternative. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailad

Re: Freeipa-client in Debian11

2021-09-03 Thread Marc Haber
consider reading a few Debian docs. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Freeipa-client in Debian11

2021-09-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 09:05:35 +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: >On 3.9.2021 19.02, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:10:17PM +, Domagoj Bazina wrote: >>> This package is not available in Debian 11 distribution, and version from >>> older Debian 10 can&#

Re: Name suggestions

2021-11-01 Thread Marc Haber
Note: That was almost two years before my first Debian installation. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."

Re: Questions around Justice and Our Current CoC procedures

2022-02-21 Thread Marc Haber
icipant of a heated discussion after receiving a DAM warning. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421

Re: Questions around Justice and Our Current CoC procedures

2022-02-21 Thread Marc Haber
reatening removal, I think > it's FAR to low. This worries me more than it being too hard to make > decisions. THIS. I fully agree with. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust C

Re: Chromium on Debian 11

2022-04-17 Thread Marc Haber
why do you keep coming here? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 No

Re: Version of Chromium and Firefox ESR available on Stable (Re: Chromium on Debian 11)

2022-04-17 Thread Marc Haber
g for the record, wishing a nice sunday as well -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordi

Re: policy for planet.debian.org

2006-08-05 Thread Marc Haber
Planet bug. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | Ho

Non-DDs right to speak on mailing lists

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Haber
d demotivating. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature |

Re: Rethinking stable updates policy

2006-08-25 Thread Marc Haber
e whether they need absolute stability or new infrastructure. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature |

Re: Security incident on Alioth and other Alioth news

2006-09-06 Thread Marc Haber
ered that they exploited a > pmwiki security hole[1] to deface some web pages, to install some malicious > php > pages which in turn were used to setup the IRC proxy. Is it possible to rule out privilege escalation? Greetings Marc -- ---

Re: Debian firefox

2006-10-03 Thread Marc Haber
im to support. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Natur

Re: Proposal to delay the decition of the DPL of the withdrawal of the Package Policy Committee delegation

2006-10-26 Thread Marc Haber
L. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 --

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-26 Thread Marc Haber
d to be done, or the jobs that you guys intend to continue doing. Of course, I am especially interested in that information for the jobs that need special privileges, such as release manager, press, DWN, DSA, Security, ftpmaster and/or DAM. Greetings Marc -- - Ma

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:48:16PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 10/26/06, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >If people need to be paid, I'd like them > > (1) to be paid by the project > > (2) to be paid by something friendly to the project >

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-26 Thread Marc Haber
ferently. I am actually surprised that people on this list are not aware of these differences. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany |

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:12:09PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Marc Haber: > > Please note that this is not a salary which can be relied on coming in > > month after months. Freelance people which high qualifications have to > > calculate differently. I am actually sur

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:44:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:37:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > Just let me pick the NEW queue: Has it been stated publicly that > > ftpmaster is going to reduce work spent on NEW due to dunc tank? Have > > ft

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-11-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:35:31PM -0300, calvesmit wrote: > Marc Haber, there's no need for special privileges in Debian. Nobody > is or does jobs better than others. I was talking about technical privileges, which are of course needed. Gre

Re: Delete my message on one Debian List Please

2006-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
to the mailing lists themselves. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nord

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-12 Thread Marc Haber
ry indirectly - by dunctank. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-12 Thread Marc Haber
Debian installer positively rocks. Now, people need to notice that. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."W

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Haber
aborted immediately as you suggested? I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germa

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment, > > > > Can you

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Haber
xperiment > impact to finish any time soon. And this is not going to change whether we continue (as in having Andi finish his term) or not. So aborting now is irrelevant. Greetings Marc, resting my case -- ----

Re: Debian Weekly News - November 28th, 2006

2006-12-19 Thread Marc Haber
objective is. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt

Re: Debian Weekly News - November 28th, 2006

2006-12-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:30:57AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > I do not > think that the first two sentences on http://dunc-bank.zoy.org/ have > any potential of being mis-read. Greetings Marc -- ----- M

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Marc Haber
elegates, communicate. Say what you need, say what hurts you. People are going to help then. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany |

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Marc Haber
h" people. This needs to change, and if Debian manages to implement these changes, 80 % of our recurring problems will simply vanish in a haze. How do you plan to improve our core teams' communication skills? Greetings Marc -- --

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-02-23 Thread Marc Haber
s for social problems. I feel that RT is not a silver bullet, and adresses a non-issue in my opinion. I fear that its introduction will not help in solving the pressing issue that makes people stop caring about things. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-02-24 Thread Marc Haber
u are doing a pretty good job. Unfortunately, not as a DPL, but as campaign aide for the other candidates. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder

Re: gpg changesets

2007-02-24 Thread Marc Haber
ation makes it awfully hard to produce things that actually help. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."W

Re: Debian release cycle for enterprise ?

2007-06-08 Thread Marc Haber
kup I make before upgrading. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nord

Re: message from Sven Luther

2007-06-29 Thread Marc Haber
, I would prefer if he would carry this to Slashdot. I strongly suspect that Slashdot wouldn't carry the story anyway. If it is something new, by all means, post it. Your call. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber |

Re: Need of non-germany-tree in Debian?

2007-07-13 Thread Marc Haber
y Advocat from Offenburg) Interpretation of that law differs. Ask three lawyers, get five answers. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Ge

Re: Hiding email addresses from spammers on https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php

2007-08-03 Thread Marc Haber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Addresses used on Usenet do not get a lot of spam nowadays. Greetings Marc, rather reachable than spam-free -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-21 Thread Marc Haber
icator that there is something wrong with the communication behavior of people in key positions. Greetings Marc, who thinks that Sam did well -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Maila

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-21 Thread Marc Haber
ate of poorness in itself, though. People should communicate without "encouragement". Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-21 Thread Marc Haber
ould be great to gain some insight into these boxes as well. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona

Re: Debian logo

2008-02-16 Thread Marc Haber
ebian.org/logos/ (google: debian logo license, first hit) Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder

Re: can I boot from USB?

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 05:07:33PM +0200, Ginis.com wrote: > my name is George... > > can I boot from USB? Depends. Your hardware/BIOS needs to be fairly recent. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-25 Thread Marc Haber
I'm still wondering if Debian would benefit itself more from a longer DPL > term. It probably would. Probably, yes, if we finally elect a DPL who will not fall silent after three months in his term. Greetings Marc --

Re: Updated Debian Developers Keyring

2008-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
e latter as "the keyring manager is too busy with his paid work to do his Debian duties", both of which I'd see as a reason to fire the keyring manager. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don&#

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Marc Haber
t; the stock OpenSSH. IIRC, DSS is mandatory part of ssh protocol 2. RSA is only optional. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | l

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-17 Thread Marc Haber
me. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an Amer

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
s Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an Amer

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
ced a decision. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature |

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
text was coordinated within the entire press team, our release > masters, the head of the technical commitee and the DPL. So that's the new secret cabal taking our decisions? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
ot intended to have a discussion about this topic. Grüße Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 62

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
e announcement was made to be sure that press coverage would not > differ from the actual message and confuse people. The actual message was "this is how we're going to do things in the future and no discussion about this is wanted". Greetings Marc -- -

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
27;s innards than Debian itself. This is wildly disturbing. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to ma

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
t freeze plan will mean that Ubuntu LTS will always be the "better" OS. -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Wino

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Marc Haber
of Debian won't. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 232319

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
hronous with Ubuntu, which _I_ consider a desireable feature to prevent Debian from perishing. We are not only major supplier to Ubuntu, we have our end customers ourselves. I'd prefer that it stayed that way. Greetings Marc -- -----

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:58:30AM -0700, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Marc > Haber wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:45:41AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > >> Why not freeze in June 2010 instead of December 2009 and then freeze > >>

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Marc Haber wrote: > > In fact, I would prefer if Ubuntu had to change _their_ scheduled to > > accomodate us, if they want to have the advantage of being in sync > > with us. It's _

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
s Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
indows is so successful. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisc

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:18:31AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:11, Marc Haber > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:59:05AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > >> so if they keep honouring publicly stating and recognizing > >

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
uttleworth already takes vital decisions for Debian and talks about them to the press before Debian even knows. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | l

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:28:01AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:11:12AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > google, debian site:ubuntu.com delivers _one_ hit that is actually > > inside ubuntu.com. > > Search better: http://www.ubuntu.com/communi

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
y go to canonical without having to decide. Greetins Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
Debian/Ubuntu ecosystem. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 32

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
ng"? I mean, we have our troubles and we are not always as fast as we would like ourselves to be, but we have always shelled out useable and stable releases. What more do you want, blood? Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-08-04 Thread Marc Haber
sly false, see how (e)glibc maintainers are pushed by Ubuntu > people to get the next release ready, ignoring their own bugs? There are always exceptions to a rule. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don&#x

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-08-04 Thread Marc Haber
that failed during the Ubuntu build for themselves. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-08-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:51:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > What we're speaking of is synergy between both distributions. You know the > > >

Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Haber
27;ll both need to work together, we'll > need to make compromises or we'll need to contribute effort to the other > side. Debian has always contributed effort to the other side, even before before deciding to have freezes in a way that would allow Ubuntu to always have more recent software in

Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-05 Thread Marc Haber
e-based release schedule upon our upstreams when we do time-based freezes? I am not sure whether upstreams are going to like this. Greetings Marc -- ----- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Maila

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