Re: removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:24 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 04:59:03PM +, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I completely agree that libdb4.3 is ancient grot, and it should be removed from the archive. I am distressed that the maintainers decided to wait until

NMU rules?

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Have the NMU rules recently been changed in a way I was unaware of? I recently encountered a 0-day NMU of a package of mine to fix an important bug, a normal bug, and a non-bug, without any patch posted to the bug log. In my judgment, it is unlikely that the release team would welcome this

Re: removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 15:04 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: The bug on mmorph was not filed by the db maintainers, it was filed by a release manager. I guess mmorph was overlooked when the db maintainers filed bugs requesting migration to db4.6 a year ago. That's unfortunate, but it's not a

removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I completely agree that libdb4.3 is ancient grot, and it should be removed from the archive. I am distressed that the maintainers decided to wait until the freeze to do that. This is entirely *backwards*. The time to decide, hey, this library should be removed is at the *beginning* of the

Re: severity of 442668 is serious

2008-09-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 21:19 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Redundant versions of BDB in the archive unnecessarily bloat the release and Debian's install footprint, and impose a burden on the Debian DB packaging team. There are currently five versions of BDB in lenny, whereas there are only 7

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 09:24 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:44:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Given that sshfs's errno return is wildly wrong, The errors are not wrong. The lists in the documentation are not terminal. The open group spec say[1]: | The ERRORS

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: EPERM The file system containing oldpath and newpath does not support the creation of hard links. That seems to cover any case where the kernel might return ENOSYS... Yes, but this is not glibc's responsibility;

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: FWIW, I know there have been other cases in the past where glibc has handled ENOSYS returns for unimplemented syscalls and fallen back to older, less-preferred interfaces to avoid returning ENOSYS to the caller for a case where the

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:37 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:32:15AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:24:55AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: And which value should they be mapped to? EPERM The file system containing oldpath and newpath

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:40 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:38:14AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Yes, but this is not glibc's responsibility; it is the kernel's. and, i think the kernel should pass back the error it gets too. it is sshfs which should do

gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-08-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Please allow gnucash 2.2.6-2 into testing; this has a minimally invasive patch to avoid a dangerous data-loss bug in an unusual usage case. (It turns out that sshfs returns ENOSYS on a link call. This is wildly wrong; it has no business doing so, especially when EPERM is already the documented

Re: guile-1.8 (1.8.5+1-2) recommended for lenny

2008-08-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:13 -0600, dann frazier wrote: fwiw, it builds fine (once the arch list is updated), and my test builds of a couple guile-1.8 packages seem to build/run fine. As an ia64 user, I would be happy to have ia64 back in sync with the other archs here. I agree. It would be

libofx freeze exemption request

2008-08-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have uploaded libofx 1:0.9.0-3. This acknowledges NMUs already in lenny, and includes a bug fix for an internationalization bug of severity important: #493597; I used the patch described in the bug report. libofx is priority optional and the fix can be (and has been) made via unstable and

Re: gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:56 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Hallo Thomas, am Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:08:18PM -0700 hast du folgendes geschrieben: Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted for

Re: gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-08-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:56 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Hallo Thomas, am Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:08:18PM -0700 hast du folgendes geschrieben: Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted for

gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted for testing, which will (among other things) close all the RC and the relevant important bugs currently against gnucash, make HBCI work properly, and otherwise

gnucash advice request take two

2008-07-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
It turns out that the upload of an HBCI-supporting gnucash which I made was missing some important patches. (See recent gnucash bugs by Micha Lenk for details.) I am not entirely confident there are not other such problems. This seems to me to be a poor way to go. What I would most like to do

gnucash advice request

2008-07-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
This request is about gnucash bug #303234. There are two ways available to address this bug. The bug new has a patch helpfully contributed, which would enable us finally to make this work, which is a crucial thing for German users. But I would much prefer to use what upstream gnucash will

qt-x11-free uploads

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Would it be possible to hold off on more qt-x11-free uploads so that the libofx transition can occur? They are linked through kymymoney2. The latest upload happened just in time, it seems to prevent the previous version from transitioning, as did the one before that. And the latest (3:3.3.8b-4)

please hint libofx

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I think libofx needs a hint to get into testing. Thanks. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sparc buildd

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 09:25 -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Is something not working with the sparc buildd? I have a couple packages that haven't been built in two weeks, which normally doesn't happen. Ah, I see the problem; I missed it first time round. For some reason http

sparc buildd

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Is something not working with the sparc buildd? I have a couple packages that haven't been built in two weeks, which normally doesn't happen. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. The problem is that it overrides the system's test command (in Debian, /usr/bin/test and /usr/bin/[) and does so in a way which is inconsistent with the Debian versions. Nothing in Posix permits this behavior, but it is tolerated by the standard

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:57 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. The problem is that it overrides the system's test command (in Debian, /usr/bin/test and /usr/bin/[) and does so in a way which

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 19:58 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 06:16:44PM +, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. [ strip whining ] Alas, dash does change the syntax of the command. [ whine whine whine ] What

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:57 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. The problem is that it overrides the system's test command (in Debian, /usr/bin/test and /usr/bin/[) and does so in a way which

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:26 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: On Sun February 10 2008 10:16:44 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Shells can override commands, but only if they don't play games with the syntax. Agreed. Within the Debian world, dash has redefined test rather than building in test

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 19:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just replied to Thomas on the bug report including some information that demonstrates that his arguments on dash not implementing some (at least the one mentioned on the report)

NMU of gnucash please?

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Can an NMU for gnucash please be scheduled? The recent upload failed because of an slib installation bug which has since been fixed. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 10:34 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:10:26AM +, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Don't start filing remove requests until other maintainers have a chance. Take the step of contacting those who maintain packages that depend on the libraries you

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 17:02 +, Neil McGovern wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:35:54AM -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: So please, let these maintainers choose, rather than ordering them about. It is *they* who are in a position to decide whether maintaining gnome 1.x is worth

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 00:07 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Then I'll do some more runs of the same principle on other gnome 1.x related libs until we got rid of them al. If you know your package depends on gnome 1.x one way or the other, now is the time to fix that, package a new upstream,

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:30 +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: [Trying to reply for Frank, since he's on vacation...] Hi, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This particular problem only exists because you're providing tetex-bin and tetex-extra packages that don't have the same

gnucash and etch freeze

2007-02-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
One of the unfortunate side-effects of a freeze is that it becomes very hard to get necessary changes into etch when an upstream package is a more rapidly moving target. In the four months since gnucash 2.0.2 was released, much development has happened, and upstream has released several more

why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
So the release criteria require buildd redundancy. And yet, half the release candidate archs still don't have it. It gets marked in yellow on http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html. Well, the one-and-only alpha buildd has been down for apparently ten days and does not respond to ping,

please allow gnucash-2.0.2-3 into testing

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I've uploaded 2.0.2-3 to fix the open release critical bug for gnucash and do minor cleanup after the incorrect NMU of last month. Please allow it into testing once the regular five-day delay is over, and please do not force it to wait for the absent alpha autobuilder to catch up. Thomas

Re: why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 18:36 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: So the release criteria require buildd redundancy. And yet, half the release candidate archs still don't have it. It gets marked in yellow on http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html. Well

Re: why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 13:47 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Of course, I have a conflict of interest here as an alpha porter, so ultimately I'll defer to Andi if he thinks it's become a problem; but in general we're unlikely to cut a port from the release at this late stage without some pretty

Fix to #378346 has gone missing, complete with nasty version inconsistency in gail

2007-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
According to the bug log http://bugs.debian.org/378346, gail version 1.8.11-3 was uploaded by Loic Minier and had the following: gail (1.8.11-3) unstable; urgency=high . * Revert changes of 1.8.11-2 as release team explained that a simple re-upload is enough for non-bin-NMU-able

glib/gnucash regression fixed for now

2007-01-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I'm pleased to report that the upload of glib version 2.16.6-2 does seem to have solved the gnucash regression caused by 2.12.5-3. That, as far as I can tell, ends the need for this to be a release concern for Debian; we can work out more leisurely now what the final shape of this should look

Re: Bug#402692: Status of KeyFile regressions in glib2.0

2006-12-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 21:10 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: Finally, since glib's upstream added support for key names with MIME types chars such as / and + for gnome-vfs2, I also added a patch to silently support key names with spaces in the middle of the name (not at the beginning or at the

[Fwd: Re: invalid glib key names in gnucash]

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Here is what gnucash upstream says about this nasty little issue. I want to get out of the middle of this, by the way. Can glib upstream and gnucash upstream now talk directly together? Thomas ---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 10:42 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: gnucash creates its

Re: Bug#404888: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 17:15 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 29 décembre 2006 à 10:48 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : Despite what Josselin has said, I can see no indication from a brief perusal of the upstream branch sources in trac that upstream gnucash either no longer

Re: gnucash 2.0.2-2.1 MIGRATED to testing

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 09:32 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 16:39 -0700, Debian testing watch wrote: FYI: The status of the gnucash source package in Debian's testing distribution has changed. Previous version

gnucash / glib regression

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
So there is, at the moment, a disagreement between the gnucash and glib developers about whether the keyfile interface is even a supported interface, with Josselin now suggesting that the glib maintainers simply won't support the use of keyfiles by applications (despite it being documented). And,

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 08:44 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: For the sake of the upcoming release, I wonder how many files / users are affected by this change? Is it really release-critical? If not, would it not helpe if Thomas provides a script in the gnucash package that adjusts the keys that

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 03:06 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 28 décembre 2006 à 17:29 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won't be able to fix the regression

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 17:02 -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) Decide that glib can migrate into testing, with the particular change of checking key values reverted to its pre-2.12.5 behavior, since this is a destabilizing change in the Debian

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 17:13 -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: Well, bugs are bugs and I don't think we should be too hard on this. I think that changes that does change the library behaviour should be avoided. The rules for a freeze are that changes which fix release critical bugs are

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 12:56 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 08:11:14PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 19:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Note that option (3) depends on upstream's ability to fix the problem quickly, *and* is likely to be error prone

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 20:45 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: As this may break more applications (earlier version broke locale parsing and gnomevfs), we should probably keep that code, reduce it to a warning for etch and then work out (together with upstream) how to solve this for the

glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Package: glib2.0 Version: 2.12.5-3 This version of glib (both 2.12.5-3 and 2.12.6-1) causes an important regression in gnucash, and therefore should not go into testing. See http://bugs.debian.org/404585. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 00:49 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 28 décembre 2006 à 14:47 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : Package: glib2.0 Version: 2.12.5-3 This version of glib (both 2.12.5-3 and 2.12.6-1) causes an important regression in gnucash, and therefore should not go

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:41 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: 1) The release team has asked us not to upload changes which are not destined for etch, and making gnucash work with the glib in unstable is therefore a low priority; The glib in unstable is destined for etch, whether you like it

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won't be able to fix the regression it introduces in gnucash. There are clearly two plausible solutions to the underlying problem: 1. Change gnucash to conform to the new

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won't be able to fix the regression it introduces in gnucash. Here is a sample file; I suspect the offending character is the space, if I'm reading Marc Brockschmidt's regex

why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Why are new upstream releases being added to upstable of the glib2.0 package? We are in a freeze, I thought. And one seems perhaps to be responsible for a regression in gnucash (see #404585). Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 01:46 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Dezember 2006: On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 01:28:23AM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Dezember 2006: Why are new upstream releases

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 20:16 -0500, Edward Shornock (debian ml) wrote: It seems that the new upstream changes in glib would qualify as a potentially disruptive change. It has been confirmed that it is genuinely a disruptive change. Bug 404585, severity important, occurs only with the new

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 14:22 +1100, Vincent Ho wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 08:09:52PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: It has been confirmed that it is genuinely a disruptive change. Bug 404585, severity important, occurs only with the new libglib. Um Thomas, you yourself set the bug

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 21:02 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 05:21:31PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Why are new upstream releases being added to upstable of the glib2.0 package? We are in a freeze, I thought. And one seems perhaps to be responsible

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 21:59 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: You asked for the release team's input into whether to upload the new upstream version, and Luk replied with an explanation that was consistent with the release team's position on the matter: new upstream versions and uploads including

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 19:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:17:03AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is too late in the release

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: To conclude, the support of multiple python versions is not meant at all as an excuse for lazy debian maintainers depending on python for not following upstream python development. Are you calling me lazy for not fixing a bug that you

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: An explicitely stated goal of the release team was to reduce the number of supported python versions for the next stable release. We did include three python versions for sarge (2.[123]). To reduce that count we do have to drop 2.3

python 2.3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is too late in the release cycle to be risking regressions in this way? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

please hint lilypond 2.8.3-3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Please hint lilypond 2.8.3-3 into testing at the appropriate time. This fixes an important bug with a simple one-line fix to a pathname in a script which is only used by the command which didn't work (thanks to the bug). Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 01:25 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is too late in the release cycle to be risking regressions

Re: please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 20:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: My belief is that this will not be a simple fix; the ia64 has a weird stack structure and Scheme's call/cc is not trivial to implement on weird stack machines. It took lots of work upstream to get scm to work on ia64, and I think

permission to upload lilypond 2.10 to unstable

2006-12-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
In the interests of our users (TM) I'd like to upload lilypond 2.10 to unstable. This is the current stable release of lilypond. Advantages: Depending on how long the release takes, it may be appropriate to transition this to testing at some point. But this is a quite minor thing. Depending

please transition jacal

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Can you please add a hint to transition jacal into etch? It was removed because an RC bug didn't get fixed promptly by me, but I never saw the bug report for some reason. As soon as it was removed, I uploaded a fix the same day. It has now passed the two day mark in which it would have been

Re: How to handle filename conflict aleph (Packages aleph, tetex-bin, texlive-bin)?

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:20 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: We've got a problem here, since all three packages are in testing, provide /usr/bin/aleph, and conflict with each other (or rather, the *tex* packages conflict with aleph). Eek. The right solution to this would be to package the new

Re: please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 02:14 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: For the record, release-criticality of build failures applies only to build failures on release architectures where the package *previously* built successfully, and I had never claimed otherwise in the case of guile-1.8. That seems to

Please allow lilypond 2.8.7-2 into etch

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The ia64 build of lilypond has been removed from unstable (thanks Jeroen!) and the amd64 build has completed (it was waiting for the guile-1.8 build on that arch to get uploaded). So that means that lilypond 2.8.7-2 should now be able to transition. It has well passed the required time, and it

jacal

2006-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have just uploaded the fix for #401030. For some reason this bug didn't hit my radar screen until the consequent removal from testing. (Incidentally, the bug is really serious and not grave, because jacal always worked fine with scm, but that doesn't matter much.) I would appreciate it if this

Re: confusion

2006-12-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 17:32 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Nor is removing binaries from testing the issue -- the issue is that the old binaries would need to be removed from *unstable* in order to allow the new version of lilypond to propogate *from* unstable into testing. Maybe this is the

Re: confusion

2006-12-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: I still recommend asking for the out-of-date ia64 binary to be removed from unstable pending resolution of the guile-1.8 bug, as I had said before. If you elect to reintroduce lilypond 2.6 for ia64 as a separate source package, that's

Re: confusion

2006-12-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 16:01 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 10:58:27 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Why is it OK for guile-1.8 to support 32-bit archs and not 64-bit archs, but lilypond is required to support all of them? It would be better to have a halfway

confusion

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I'm confused, because in part I don't seem to get responses when I ask questions. I think this is because the people who could respond think they have already answered, even though they really haven't. So guile-1.8 does not have to build from source on 64 bit archs, because one only has to do

please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-11-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I would like to officially ask for an exception to the usual testing rules for lilypond, to allow 2.8.7 into testing, on those architectures where guile-1.8 works. The architectures currently losing for guile-1.8 are alpha, amd64, and ia64. I believe that alpha and ia64 are release candidates,

Re: Asking for the position of the RMs about the powerpc d-i situation.

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 18:22 +0100, Sven Luther wrote: But, we are nearing the release, and the actions of Frans are clearly endangering the quality of the d-i powerpc port, and there is a decision to take about this issue, and i guess the decision is yours to make. This isn't clear to me at

Re: lilypond plans

2006-11-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 05:38 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 07:05:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Currently lilypond 2.8.7 is in unstable. It is blocked waiting for its own timelimit and for guile-1.8 to finish building on other archs and migrate itself. Well

Re: lilypond plans

2006-11-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 21:35 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 07:05:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Currently lilypond 2.8.7 is in unstable. It is blocked waiting for its own timelimit and for guile-1.8 to finish building on other archs and migrate itself

Re: testing d-i Release Candidate 1 and more release adjustments

2006-11-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 04:57 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Release goals and etch-ignores == After a mailing list discussion about release-criticality and policy, we've decided to include fixing bashisms as a release goal. This means that if packages have bugs

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS: 4 days and still no response to guile-1.6 patch... Maybe you should ask the guile-1.6 maintainer? I'm not responsible for the package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then m68k would be a suitable release candidate for etch+1. As usual you're avoiding the issue. The answer is not _that_ simple. Really? What are the great mysterious complexities in it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point is that these release criteria have practically enforced a black and white scheme - either you're with us or you're on your own. Actually, Anthony Towns described about a half-dozen distinct possibilities, and outlined the advantages and

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm and here I thought you would care about this package, the way you constantly asked about its status... I do care about it. But I see no particular reason for urgency about the particular bug, and obviously, the m68k team doesn't either. Thomas --

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do care about it. But I see no particular reason for urgency about the particular bug, and obviously, the m68k team doesn't either. Obviously? They ignored it for a long time, and as far as I know, haven't requested the maintainer to treat it with

Re: Release team position on the state of kernel firmware, post GR2006-007

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As mentioned above, it was discovered late in the process that three firmware images included in the upstream kernel that are relevant to the installer are not distributed under clearly DFSG-compliant licenses: tg3, typhoon, and acenic. Of these, only

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, that's what we want as well and if m68k could provide this, what's the reason this couldn't be released as Debian? So far, m68k *can't* provide it. That's the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, that's what we want as well and if m68k could provide this, what's the reason this couldn't be released as Debian? So far, m68k *can't* provide

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Does this explain why guile-1.6 is still not compiled for m68k? Maybe you just wanted to know if the bug is solved in the meanwhile, but your way to ask is very, uhm, bad, because it includes some sort of attack. Your question can be understood

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:28:55AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: It's not like I hunted around for problems, I simply looked at the cases closest to the packages I maintain, asking why don't they work on m68k? I expected you would have realised

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the porters wanted to say? We want to release with Etch? I think that's obvious and the porters are doing their best to keep the port going and keeping up as much as possible. Why is the most recent g-wrap still not compiled for m68k? I

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh well... you already know that m68k suffered from serious toolchain problems, which are fixed now thanks to Roman, Stephen Marenka and others, and that the w-b queueing algorithm is not known to be very intelligent, i.e. it doesn't queue in order

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh well... you already know that m68k suffered from serious toolchain problems, which are fixed now thanks to Roman, Stephen Marenka and others, and that the w-b queueing algorithm is not known to be very intelligent, i.e. it doesn't queue in order

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, this is irrelevant for this thread as the topic of this thread is m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans? and not Thomas Bushnell would like to see his packages being built on m68k. Maybe that's disappointing for you

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have to bug people to get them to release a fixed package. Does this explain why guile-1.6 is still not

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Roman Zippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fixes for problems are too often simply stuck in the BTS now, because in many cases maintainer simply don't care about m68k support. I often have to bug

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