Re: Major problems booting Debian 2.2 - Nothing works

2001-04-12 Thread Daniel Freedman
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001, Len Cheatham wrote: Hi Len, I couldn't really follow your question, as I couldn't easily read your html-formatted email (for the future, you're certain to get more responses with text-only email, with line breaks at ~70 chars). But I'm going to give it a shot anyway. I'

X Problems with newly added user

2001-04-12 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
I've just added a new user to my system, and she can't fire up X. When she enters startx, it creates .Xauthority, and then craps out with _IceTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _IceTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _IceTransMakeAllCOTServerListeners:

Major problems booting Debian 2.2 - Nothing works

2001-04-12 Thread Len Cheatham
I cannot get Debian 2.2 to boot up. I tried the following 2 methods, to no avail: ATTEMPT #1: After downloading the CD from the Debian site, I burned a CD for Disk #1 and placed that in the CD drive. I booted the computer, and after going through all the install screens, Debian said that it could

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Kevin Stokes
>Nice. So, what - you're a martyr now? Give us a break. < No, I'm not a martyr. I was just trying to be funny.I shouldn't have put that part in, since it didn't add to the analogy. I'm sorry I started the whole thing. I'm going to unsubscribe from the list and leave my Linux box idle for a

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink

2001-04-12 Thread ktb
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:48:57PM -0400, - wrote: > >I don't know your parents well enough to comment on the bastard part, > but > if you want to take without giving, that pretty much is the textbook > definition of selfish.< > > What does this wise ass expect someone who knows very little about

Re: Here's one for your stupid file

2001-04-12 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Anybody know how I can recreate the required files? > > `-- archives > `-- partial > > WAG: I think you might just be able to run 'apt-get update' to update > your package lists. If that doesn't work, try creating the directories, > perm

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink

2001-04-12 Thread -
>I don't know your parents well enough to comment on the bastard part, but if you want to take without giving, that pretty much is the textbook definition of selfish.< What does this wise ass expect someone who knows very little about Linux to contribute to the Linux community? Isn't describing t

Re: Funny Story

2001-04-12 Thread Rich Puhek
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/crew/exp1/ex1logs.html "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > Yes, you can read all about it in the journal of one of the astronauts. > > Speaking of which, I went hunting last night but couldn't find them. > Link, anyone? > -- ___

Re: Funny Story

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:09:47AM -0700, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Steve Witt wrote: > > I don't know if this story is true or not, but I hope it is. A guy who is > > our sys admin said he read on a sys admin type mailing list that the crew > > of the International Space Station are h

Collaborative discussion engines (was Re: Tragedy and otherwise (was...))

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:16:51PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > *Using* GNU/Linux isn't going to prevent anyone else from using it -- > > you're not using anything that another user can't access because of your > > presence.

Debian 2.2 won't boot up

2001-04-12 Thread Len Cheatham
I cannot get Debian 2.2 to boot up. I tried the following 2 methods, to no avail: ATTEMPT #1: After downloading the CD from the Debian site, I burned a CD for Disk #1 and placed that in the CD drive. I booted the computer, and after going through all the install screens, Debian said that it

Re: Debian 2.2 won't boot up

2001-04-12 Thread iehrenwald
> I cannot get Debian 2.2 to boot up. I tried the following 2 methods, to no > avail: > > ATTEMPT #1: > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Well, that could be your problem. Grin.

Re: Here's one for your stupid file

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 06:48:06PM -0700, Jim Bowering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > After an unsuccessful dselect session I had a nearly full disk and wanted > to get rid of the files I'd d/led, so I deleted /var/cache/apt. Hey, I > didn't know. So now whenever I try to dselect it fails because

Re: Tragedy and otherwise (was Re: water, water everywhere,...)

2001-04-12 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: > *Using* GNU/Linux isn't going to prevent anyone else from using it -- > you're not using anything that another user can't access because of your > presence. > > Communications bandwidth is another issue. Network communications grow > according to Metc

Debian 2.2 won't boot up

2001-04-12 Thread Len Cheatham
I cannot get Debian 2.2 to boot up. I tried the following 2 methods, to no avail: ATTEMPT #1: _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: Help - I've broken my leafnode rather badly.

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 12:21:45AM +0100, Pat Colbeck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thursday 12 April 2001 23:43, Robert L. Harris wrote: > > did you do a "dpkg -P leafnode"? If you didn't, the system may > > think those files are there but not. If you do the -P it removes the > > package and i

corel photopaint

2001-04-12 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. We're playing with Corel Photopaint 9 for Linux on a Debian 2.2 box, and we're not getting very far. It installed fine, it starts fine. Unfortunately, as soon as you try to open a new document, it bails on an unhandled exception. Has anyone seen this, and have a fix? Thank

Re: Passive mode FTP?

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 06:36:33PM +0200, staf wagemakers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:24:00PM -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > > Whats the magic environment variable to get ftp to use FTP mode? > > If you start "ftp -p" ftp will use passive mode, at the ftp prompt you can >

Here's one for your stupid file

2001-04-12 Thread Jim Bowering
After an unsuccessful dselect session I had a nearly full disk and wanted to get rid of the files I'd d/led, so I deleted /var/cache/apt. Hey, I didn't know. So now whenever I try to dselect it fails because it can't find some files that are supposed to be in that dir. Anybody know how I can rec

horrible refresh rate

2001-04-12 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. We just put Debian 2.2r2 on my wife's new computer. She's using an nvidia Aladdin TNT2 integrated video card. I used the SVGA server. It works fine, but the refresh rate is horrible. It's jerky, lagging, very hard to use. Would that just be caused by the monitor's settings, or

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:16:50PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Ok, ok, I give up. For what's it's worth, here's what I have learned from > the day's events: > > 1) Don't respond to mail when you're already in a poor mood. Excellent advice. I should have followed it my

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Re: opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Zac Epkes
I dont know but u could possible TRY www.opera.com before u send a message to hundreds of people :-/ jsut an idea [not meaning to be mean] - overid3 =) On Thursday 12 April 2001 18:15, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Hello, > I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I

Re: Hello Again

2001-04-12 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 03:06:24PM -0400, Dan Hutchinson wrote: > Ok, I have the dual boot somewhat of Windows2K and Red Hat. But Red > Hat puts the startx display at 1460X1280. How do I get to a seeable > font? > > Dan > Please Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I am not on the debian-user > list.

Tragedy and otherwise (was Re: water, water everywhere,...)

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 03:53:58PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: <...> > Except in this case these are YOUR boots on YOUR feet. Or a more apt > analogy: Linux is like a village common. You've heard of the economic > concept of the "tragedy of the commons" right? If too man

Re: printer and masqmail (potato r2)

2001-04-12 Thread Andre Berger
* robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-13 02:06 +0200: > Andre Berger wrote: > > > > * robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-11 19:02 +0200: > > > > Pb1: Printer. (I use lpr and apsfilter) > . > > > If I want to print a mail with mutt or a file with xemacs nothing is > > > printed and lpq tel

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Andre Berger
* Kevin Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-13 02:06 +0200: [snipped that ... story] Why don't you spend your time to RTFM instead. -Andre

Re: Fujitsu lifebook

2001-04-12 Thread Eric Richardson
Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > Does anyone know if this mini-portable is supported with debian ? I'm > looking forward to use it for some admin-tasks ... > > Joris > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks like it.

Re: opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Tyrin Price wrote: > * Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12Apr01 20:15 -0300]: > > I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I > > download it? > > http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html > > I am not sure what kind of license it has and

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Kevin Stokes wrote: > > >Because you expect other people to implement your suggestion while you do > nothing.< >Some people get my point, and others don't. I don't expect anything. > Let me try another analogy, since my first one was lousy; This one is worse. Way worse.

Re: Xserver Problems

2001-04-12 Thread Bart Himel
Thanks for your help.  I changed that line in Xwrapper.config.  Now i can start X from the command line, but gdm doesn't start at startup like it's supposed to.   When I try to start X immediately from a normal user account from the command line, I get this message: "X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspici

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Kevin Stokes
>Your latest analogy is worse than the first... espeically the part about people bashing down the door, dragging you out of bed and kicking your proverbial ass.< Gosh, you guys are so serious! I was just having a bit of fun with that part. The whole thing is tongue-in-cheek, although like all h

Re: opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Len Dozois
There is a debian version for download ar www.operasoftware.com Len On Thursday 12 April 2001 06:15 pm, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Hello, > I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I > download it? > Thanks!

Re: KDE 2.2 pre-alpha1 test packages available for sid/unstable

2001-04-12 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:53:14PM -0600, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > Ok folks... > > I have prepared a set of test pacakges for the upcomming KDE 2.2-alpha1 > release. You can add the following apt line: > > deb http://people.debian.org/%7Erkrusty/ kde2.2/$(ARCH)/ > ohh..and the crypto pa

Re: More leafnode woes

2001-04-12 Thread Pat Colbeck
Something else I just noticed, in Gnus I can list the active file but if i do "list groups matching" and try say comp.* instead of loads of group;s being listed I get none at all ! Also in the office when I start Gnus for the first time it autosubscribes to a few news groups such as the Gnus one

Re: module sound with potato 2.2 r2

2001-04-12 Thread robin
Robert Voigt wrote: > > > Many thanks I have the sound as root but I have had put the permissions > > of the > > devices /dev/dsp and /dev/hdd to 666. I don't know if it is suitable > > but > > I have the sound ! > > Nice to hear that it works. But changing permissions is usually not nice. The

KDE 2.2 pre-alpha1 test packages available for sid/unstable

2001-04-12 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Ok folks... I have prepared a set of test pacakges for the upcomming KDE 2.2-alpha1 release. You can add the following apt line: deb http://people.debian.org/%7Erkrusty/ kde2.2/$(ARCH)/ you *must* be using Branden's new X4.0.3 packages which you can get from: deb http://people.debian

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Tyrin Price
* Kevin Stokes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12Apr01 19:24 -0400]: >Some people get my point, and others don't. I don't expect anything. > Let me try another analogy, since my first one was lousy; > Your latest analogy is worse than the first... espeically the part about people bashing down the door

Re: opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Thank you Tyrin, I was trying with www.opera.org instead www.opera.com! On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 04:33:57PM -0700, Tyrin Price wrote: > * Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12Apr01 20:15 -0300]: > > I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I > > download it? >

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 07:24:59PM -0400, Kevin Stokes wrote: | | >Because you expect other people to implement your suggestion while you do | nothing.< |Some people get my point, and others don't. I don't expect anything. | Let me try another analogy, since my first one was lousy; In you

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread tom
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:47:07PM -0500, will trillich wrote: > > Expect two to four months of "aaugh! Ever since the lobotomy i > can't figure anything out" before you can start helping others > here. (Your spouse will hate it nearly as much as you do.) Once > you get past the "i feel lobotomize

Re: opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Tyrin Price
* Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12Apr01 20:15 -0300]: > I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I > download it? http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html I am not sure what kind of license it has and I have no idea whether it is any good or not. -- Re

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Kevin Stokes
>Because you expect other people to implement your suggestion while you do nothing.< Some people get my point, and others don't. I don't expect anything. Let me try another analogy, since my first one was lousy; Say I'm visiting my uncle in Lynchburg, Tenn. We go to the mall to buy a shi

Re: printer and masqmail (potato r2)

2001-04-12 Thread robin
Andre Berger wrote: > > * robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-11 19:02 +0200: > > Pb1: Printer. (I use lpr and apsfilter) . > > If I want to print a mail with mutt or a file with xemacs nothing is > > printed and lpq tell me : no entries. > > Add to your ~/.muttrc, or better /etc/Muttrc:

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > How is information destroyed by being replicated many times? will trillich writes: > it's not. the RESOURCE will dry up. > if everybody takes and nobody gives. > imagine the debian team -- their time spent, unappreciated, unrewarded, > unrecognized. they'd go elsewhere (or at least un

More leafnode woes

2001-04-12 Thread Pat Colbeck
Hi Well leafnodes running again but it wont get any articles. Its a fresh install so all articles should be new to it. I ran up Gnus and subscribed to comp.editors and then ran leafnode again (initail run just obtained the active file as expected) and no articles were pulled. The -vv output rev

Re: Help - I've broken my leafnode rather badly.

2001-04-12 Thread Pat Colbeck
Thanks Thanks dpkg -P fixed it, well at least it reinstalled and leafnode-conf came back. Now I am going to give it a whirl again. pat On Thursday 12 April 2001 23:43, Robert L. Harris wrote: > did you do a "dpkg -P leafnode"? If you didn't, the system may > think those files are there but not

opera browser

2001-04-12 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello, I would like to try the Opera browser in my potato box. From where can I download it? Thanks!

Re: custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi! finally, with the help from this list, I have my 2.2.18pre21 custom kernel running fine! During the last months I have beneficed a lot from debian-user list! Marcelo

Re: good ip traffic monitor recommendations (other than iptraf)

2001-04-12 Thread Known Human Nick Rusnov
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>it was written: >whats on eth0 >- tcpdump see everything... learn to read fast theres also tcpflow, which is similar but logs each stream to a separate file. theres also EtherApe which shows a neat graphical map of connections in real time. as always, nick

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:16:50PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok, ok, I give up. For what's it's worth, here's what I have learned from > the day's events: > 2) In fact, don't respond to mail at all if you're going to be expressing >your opinion, unless you've got some homies on the De

Re: Help - I've broken my leafnode rather badly.

2001-04-12 Thread Robert L. Harris
did you do a "dpkg -P leafnode"? If you didn't, the system may think those files are there but not. If you do the -P it removes the package and it's entries completely. Robert Thus spake Pat Colbeck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi > > I was having some problems with leafnode (like it wouldnt dwo

Help - I've broken my leafnode rather badly.

2001-04-12 Thread Pat Colbeck
Hi I was having some problems with leafnode (like it wouldnt dwonload any messages it just considered them ! I figured this must have been a problem with my config so I "apt-get removed " leafnode and then "rm -Rf"'d the /etc/news and /var/spool/news directories just to make sure. Now I cant re

Re: good ip traffic monitor recommendations (other than iptraf)

2001-04-12 Thread Alvin Oga
hi robt what is your definition of "good alternative" ?? like another has already asked...what kind of monitoring are you trying to do ??? whats on eth0 - tcpdump see everything... learn to read fast - iptraf - netwatch cummulative history - trafshow shows to/from the two hosts

Re: custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Morgan Terry
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > Thank you Nathan and Morgan for your advice! > > regarding the Morgan answer I have another question: I found the rotate scheme > amazing, but what about the modules? does "dpkg -i" creates a new directory in > /lib/modules (perhaps with the new kernel revision labe

dpkg -b exclude

2001-04-12 Thread ahall
Hello, I have a directory that I have in cvs and I would like to make a dpkg from said directory, but I would like to exclude the CVS directories from the dpkg. Is this possible? Thankyou for your time in advance. Andrew

Re: Mailing list software

2001-04-12 Thread Alvin Oga
hi eugene... here's a collection of various mailing list stuff... http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Majordomo/Majordomo.Utilities.txt - i think( wild ass guess) that you'd need to write your own script to expand the "list" individually into "hi ${firsname}" ... and pipe it to sendmail..

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Ray Percival
Having dealt with Lusers for far longer than I care to think about I'm going to go ahead and give some opnions on the subject. >Other important questions are: > >* Specifically, _what_ are people entitled to? Are they entitled to > demand that I spend my time catering to their needs? Are th

Re: Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Tom Schuetz
> A good, clear bug report is just as valuable as code, because it can > point out where things are going wrong. A user who is completely > new to an application can point out things which are overly obtuse, > or gaps in the manual. This is good-- but one thing I've run into as the rankest

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 03:59:23PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jaldhar H. Vyas writes: > > Or a more apt analogy: Linux is like a village common. > > No. A common is a scarce resource. Software isn't. i don't think jaldha was talking about the software, but rather the environment behind the lin

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:24:42PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > Anyway, like I said, I think it comes down to that basic question: What > do you believe? Do you believe everyone is entitled to a free, stable OS > regardless of their ability to contribute to it, or should Linux always be >

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Anyway, like I said, I think it comes down to that basic question: > What do you believe? Do you believe everyone is entitled to a free, > stable OS regardless of their ability to contribute to it, or should > Linux always be something that is only usable if you have t

Re: dpkg help

2001-04-12 Thread Jimmy Richards
Hello, I'm postive if this will work, but if you try it, let me know! To make 'apt' use --force options you need to have debconf installed, then edit the file /etc/apt.conf or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf to look like the following... DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --ap

Re: custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Thank you Nathan and Morgan for your advice! regarding the Morgan answer I have another question: I found the rotate scheme amazing, but what about the modules? does "dpkg -i" creates a new directory in /lib/modules (perhaps with the new kernel revision label) each time it rotates the links /vm

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread tom
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:09:06PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > There's a difference between making requests and acting "entitled" to > help. > Well, it sort of depends on what you want Linux to be. If you want it to become something that's easily accessible to all, because you feel that everyone

Re: Gnome with sawfish & gdm

2001-04-12 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thursday 12 April 2001 00:04, Stephen Boulet wrote: You configure gdm through /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf (or something like that) there is no configurator for gdm (I don't have it installed, or I could be more precise). You can add various "sessions" to gdm by editing the file. then you can cho

Re: sharefont breaks StarOffice 5.2 [SOLVED]

2001-04-12 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi again, On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:50:42PM +0200, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: > I just solved the problem of sharefont breaking StarOffice 5.2. > It was indeed also caused by bug #92920 which is just a missing > newline in fonts.dir as pointed out by Colin Watson. > I now only have to rebuild SSH

Re: Funny Story

2001-04-12 Thread Mike McGuire
> > Did you know that there are Nuclear Battlecruisers (i'm not a soldier, don't > know the exact name for this type of ship) running on windows NT ? Scary huh > ! heh. I wonder if that's the same kind that had a divide-by-zero error in some navigation system or something. true story. crippled t

Re: custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Morgan Terry
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > Dear debianers, > > I've already compiling (debian way) a 2.2.18pre21 custom kernel for my potato > box. I have the new /usr/src/kernel-image_*.deb file waiting to be installed. > I think that if I do "dpkg -i" I will destroy the current 2.2.17 kernel, which > works

Re: custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:58:11PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Dear debianers, > > I've already compiling (debian way) a 2.2.18pre21 custom kernel for my potato > box. I have the new /usr/src/kernel-image_*.deb file waiting to be installed. > I think that if I do "dpkg -i" I will destroy

Re: strace cures fetchmail segfault

2001-04-12 Thread David Jardine
Thanks once more for your help, Alan. I'm glad to say that the problem has somehow solved itself. After a week or so and a few dozen failures, the thing suddenly works. I suspect that the gremlin saw my >alias fetch='strace -o /dev/null fetchmail'< and gave up trying to torture me and started

Re: what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1) Don't respond to mail when you're already in a poor mood. Always good advice. I wish I followed it more, but I do queue outgoing messages in my mailer by default, so I normally have a bit of cooling-off time. > 2) In fact, don't respond to mail at all if you're go

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread John Hasler
Jaldhar H. Vyas writes: > Or a more apt analogy: Linux is like a village common. No. A common is a scarce resource. Software isn't. > If too many people take from a public resource without giving back, it > swiftly gets destroyed. How is information destroyed by being replicated many times? --

custom kernel

2001-04-12 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Dear debianers, I've already compiling (debian way) a 2.2.18pre21 custom kernel for my potato box. I have the new /usr/src/kernel-image_*.deb file waiting to be installed. I think that if I do "dpkg -i" I will destroy the current 2.2.17 kernel, which works perfectly. I want to know if there exi

ssltelnet

2001-04-12 Thread aphro
i'm tryin to get the ssltelnet client to connect to a cisco vpn3000 box. it just hangs when i try though. i wanted to know if anyone knew what options i could set with the cisco or with the ssltelnet client to get it to work. on the cisco side i have these options: Encryption protocols available:

Re: alert : water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Andre Berger
* Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-12 21:26 +0200: > This thread is getting REALLY hard to follow. I suggest people start > splitting it up or simply shut it down. This was my last post/read on this > thread. Such threads are easier to follow if everybody respects them, i.e. answers to

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Andre Berger
* David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2001-04-12 21:26 +0200: >Joris Lambrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To really start a fire here ... > 1. In many new packages, maybe most, the developers just press on and > don't pay attention to stable and unstable until they attain a version > 1.x

what i've learned, and explanation.

2001-04-12 Thread tom
Ok, ok, I give up. For what's it's worth, here's what I have learned from the day's events: 1) Don't respond to mail when you're already in a poor mood. 2) In fact, don't respond to mail at all if you're going to be expressing your opinion, unless you've got some homies on the Debian list who

Re: help

2001-04-12 Thread Daniel Freedman
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001, Patel Snehal-QA9876 wrote: > I am trying to install linux on an old HP755 > > which does not have any OS installed on it now. > what is the best and easy way to install it in the server. > > I have read all kinds og different way to do this and non are working for me > so f

Re: koffice -- how-to? SOLVED

2001-04-12 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:00:09PM -0500, will trillich wrote: > # grep kde /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu stable main crypto optional qt1apps > deb http://ftp.sourceForge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/distribution/deb > stable main > > # apt-get update > [snip] > > # ap

Re: dpkg help

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:44:14PM +0530, omicron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > You might want to look at apt-zip which is intended for this situation. > > hi, how do i make apt-zip look into a subdirectory ? It is asking > for a mounted partiti

Re: Should arrogant, self-important people be encouraged to use Linux?

2001-04-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:08:13AM -0600, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <...> > I don't know Karsten, but I have a feeling that I'd like him if > I met him. Oooh!! Ooohh Another candidate for my gullible-and-easily-persu

Re: indexing the docuentation? hmm...

2001-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >hmm. indexing the existing documentation ... > > manpages > info > /usr/share/doc/*...*/*.html > howto's > >is anybody pursuing something like this? Oh, there's doc-central, doc-base, and related tools. They only really touch things

Re: No chance to get my IntellyMouse working under X

2001-04-12 Thread Andrea Vettorello
"Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:58:24PM +0200, Thomas Wegner wrote: > > > > I think you should change some settings: > > Option "Device""/dev/psaux" > > Option "Protocol" "IntelliMosue" > > I don't think she should. The IntelliMouse protocol is for the s

sudo & Host_Alias

2001-04-12 Thread Dahiroc, Patrick
hi all i have a question on the proper use of the Host_Alias on sudo. if i have 3 machines (M1,M2,M3) and user USR1 needs to execute the commands /sbin/mount and /sbin/umount while logged in as USR1. then i should make the following sudoers file. #Begin Host_Alias MACHINE = M1, M2, M3 USR

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Kevin Stokes wrote: > > There are people who care deeply about Linux and Free Software. I am not > one of them. I wish Linux the best, but I'm not ready to invest hours of my > time writing doc. > Would it really takes hours to write "In order to do this, I did this, this,

Re: Email embarrasment

2001-04-12 Thread MH
> "Johann" == Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm far from being an exim expert, but maybe we are able to clarify things together... Johann> Sorry for the long message, but I do not know how to Johann> explain my problem much shorter. That's OK. [...] Johann> and now she

RE: smart file archiving

2001-04-12 Thread Lewis, James M.
> -Original Message- > From: Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:43 PM > To: Tim Kelley > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: smart file archiving > > > On Thursday 12 April 2001 11:34, Tim Kelley wrote: > > > > > Do you need the

Re: Should arrogant, self-important people be encouraged to useLinux?

2001-04-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:40:48PM -0500, Tim Kelley wrote: > On Thursday 12 April 2001 13:52, Andrew D Dixon wrote: > > Not to mention they think of windows as free as well (probably only 30% of > windows users actually paid for it), and don't understand the "free speech" / > "free beer" distin

Re: Email embarrasment

2001-04-12 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thursday 12 April 2001 14:02, Johann Spies wrote: Have you tried using her ISP's mail server for an MTA, instead of localhost? Unless you are using some MUA that does not have the ability to use a remote MTA there is no point and it just overcomplicates things. Try telnetting directly to th

Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

2001-04-12 Thread John Hasler
Paul D. Smith writes: > They are the standard tools for creating users on most SysV-like flavors > of UNIX, such as Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, etc. > While Debian may have some better, more unified way, I'll stick with the > portable ones,... Debian's adduser/addgroups program is written in Perl, calls

Re: indexing the docuentation? hmm...

2001-04-12 Thread Alan Shutko
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hmm. indexing the existing documentation ... [...] > is anybody pursuing something like this? You'd need to choose a good indexer, though. Most of them aren't completely free, or only work through a CGI script, or both. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Email embarrasment

2001-04-12 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, she is not sending mail as root, isn't she? I have heard that the mail goes directly to /dev/null with some installations (well, had it with RedHat, I was already discouraged sending mail as root when I went Debian). Greetz, Sebastiaan On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Johann Spies wrote: > Sorry for t

Re: StarOffice + Unstable

2001-04-12 Thread Lee Elliott
Michael Perry wrote: > > This is rather strange I think. I have two unstable boxes which get updated > quite often and I have no problems with staroffice. ARe these systems by > chance running the 2.4.x kernel series? I have seen some posts in the > newsgroups about people with issues with Star

Re: indexing the docuentation? hmm...

2001-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 07:41:48PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: >> For what it's worth, I think the existing man page framework is fine for >> this (but then I would say that). Sure, some man pages are useless, and >> a lot of them are specific to individual

kmod errors on boot (kernel 2.4.3)

2001-04-12 Thread Bryan Walton
I just compiled a 2.4.3 kernel on my Debian testing laptop. During the boot process, I get the following error: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt -464c, errno = 8 This message keeps going and doesn't stop until I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del and reboot using a different kernel. Does anyone k

Re: modversions.h

2001-04-12 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, h, creative possble solutions have been given on this list. I found out that modversions.h is not zipped in the archive but generated when building a kernel: the new package needs to know which symbols to load? I think this is enough: cd /usr/src/linux cp /boot/config- hi all, > > i down

Re: How do you broadcast a message?

2001-04-12 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:06:06AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:05:24AM -0700, Known Human Nick Rusnov wrote: > > > > > > that is done with the command 'wall'. > > > > Interesting. I get an error, as root or any other user. > > > > wall:

Re: Sound Config

2001-04-12 Thread Sean Choi
where is the port?? is there an alternative to this method? --- Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Ted Gervais ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010407 10:47]: > > > > > > What is the best way to configure the sound card with Debian. > > I am looking for something like sndconfig. Not sure how it

Hello Again

2001-04-12 Thread Dan Hutchinson
Ok, I have the dual boot somewhat of Windows2K and Red Hat. But Red Hat puts the startx display at 1460X1280. How do I get to a seeable font? Dan Please Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I am not on the debian-user list. Thanks in advance _

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