Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 03:53, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Scott Ferguson [120408 17:39]: > ... >> though we would love to find another multi-platform, easy to install >> voip program, preferably open source, to replace it. > > I also need such a package. > > It appears to me that Ekiga (formerly gnomeme

Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 04:40, Brian wrote: > On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 17:53:02 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> * Scott Ferguson [120408 17:39]: >> ... >>> though we would love to find another multi-platform, easy to install >>> voip program, preferably open source, to replace it. > > As a VoIP client

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 07:33, Indulekha wrote: > In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote: >> >> I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another >> topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian >> mailing list? :-D >> > > So IOW you started all this, but now the people

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
Hopefully ending this thread, and providing reading material for others with similar queries and concerns. On 09/04/12 02:15, PMA wrote: > > > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a > Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the

Re: [OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:41:08 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a long time in that it fails to boot the first time I

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 01:55, Chris Bannister wrote: > > [I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org] > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > (...) > > Interested parties ... please head to > d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org > > http:

Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 01:40, Gary Roach wrote: > On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 08/04/12 09:41, Gary Roach wrote: >> >> > There seems to be some confusion here. I still have win2k on the > machine. No confusion here (so far). Hence my request. I suspected you still had W2K

Re: [OT] Posting styles (PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 01:32, Joey Hess wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote (remainder of your trolling ignored): >>> as this will habituate people to expect your mail to be signed, >> >> Nope. Wishful thinking at best. > > True story: Last weekend, I sent a friend an email to get him come > help me move a couch.

(solved) Re: Double quotes, single quotes

2012-04-08 Thread Dr Beco
> Dr Beco wrote: > > > > $vi +"r ! find . -name 'error*' -printf '%f\n'" themain.c > > > Bob wrote: > The problem you are hitting is that vim is expanding the % itself and > isn't passing it to bash nor on to find.  It isn't related to quoting. > It is related to vi's percent expansion.  Use someth

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
For the record on this issue, here is my opinion. 1) A reply should be entered immediately below the text to which it specifically responds; 2) a signature, of whatever kind, should be no longer than needed to verify sender identity. I will not defend these assertions, and hope to say no

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/08/2012 02:28 PM, keith mckenzie wrote: > Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is > to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of > meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life > has returned to normal. :) > >

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:11:23 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > In linux.debian.user, keith mckenzie wrote: >> Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', >> is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of >> meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote: > On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > >> In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote: >> > >> > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another >> > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian >> > mailing

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:15:02 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:25:30 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >> on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I >> see lines: >> >> Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com >> stable Release.gpg

Re: Double quotes, single quotes

2012-04-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Dr Beco wrote: > I can't seem to find the correct combination of quotes to run this command: > > $vi +"r ! find . -name 'error*' -printf '%f\n'" themain.c > > Is there a way to achieve this (using bash)? The problem you are hitting is that vim is expanding the % itself and isn't passing it to ba

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Wayne Topa wrote: > Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > Do you think that it would be better if people spoofed my email and > > sent offensive messages to the list and noone had any way to check did > > I really sent those messages? > > Who would want to spoof YOUR Mail. > > I have been on this list for

configure Icedove for GPG/MIME?

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:13:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 08.04.2012 18:12, Chris Bannister wrote: > <...> > > The mail client should do all that for you. > > > >> Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ? > > > > ditto. > > > > I use the mutt email client and so don't know off hand but do a

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20120407_143810, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:21:44AM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > > In linux.debian.user, Richard wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 14:02:12 +0300 > > > Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > > > > > The other thing Mika, apart from that huge chunk of signature, why on

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 16:33:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote: > > > > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another > > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian > > mailing list? > > > > So IOW you started all this,

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:28:56PM +0100, keith mckenzie wrote: > Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to > send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless > numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to

please test wajig in VCS

2012-04-08 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi, Can anyone here using wajig test the version in VCS. If you find issues, please report back at wa...@googlegroups.com. setup: $ wajig install devscripts $ hg clone https://wajig.googlecode.com/hg $ cd wajig build + install: $ debuild -us -uc -b $ sudo debi I want to make sure it's solid bef

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Brian wrote: > > I posted about a printer problem. Over 120 responses are on another > topic. Is that bad manners or just the way people behave on a Debian > mailing list? > So IOW you started all this, but now the people discussing it have "bad manners"? That doesn't quit

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:55:11AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > > > A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to t

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion > about top/bottom posting :) And where better to express these opinions but on a technically oriented list like debian-user. Nine days and 120+ posts later the end is

Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude

2012-04-08 Thread Nicolas Bercher
On 21/03/2012 11:01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: hi, I wanted to upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy, and as I saw in several places that aptitude should be preferred to apt-get, I first tried with it. I started with only 1 line in sources.list: deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, keith mckenzie wrote: > Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', > is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls > of meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; > life has returned to normal. :) Th

Sid upgrade: slow tabs in Chrome.

2012-04-08 Thread hvw59601
Hi, Running Sid and just did a dist-upgrade. Use google-chrome-beta as browser and after the upgrade the tabs are "slow": when you click one with mouse or kbd, there is a slight hesitation before the page is selected that wasn't there before. Anyone notice the same? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 17:53:02 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Scott Ferguson [120408 17:39]: > ... > > though we would love to find another multi-platform, easy to install > > voip program, preferably open source, to replace it. > > I also need such a package. To be an exact replacement wh

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:18:48PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the > >> >> bottom" > >> > > >> > Yes it do

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread keith mckenzie
Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless numbers/letters,& no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to normal. :) -- Sent from Free Open Source Software Debian GNU/Li

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 21:13, Mika Suomalainen wrote: <...> > > > I know that email clients can do it automatically, but there are > rare cases when it's necessary to verify signatures manually. > Oh, and people who want to make the issue that PGP/MIME supp

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 18:12, Chris Bannister wrote: <...> > The mail client should do all that for you. > >> Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ? > > ditto. > > I use the mutt email client and so don't know off hand but do any > of these help: > > http://ask.m

Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Scott Ferguson [120408 17:39]: ... > though we would love to find another multi-platform, easy to install > voip program, preferably open source, to replace it. I also need such a package. It appears to me that Ekiga (formerly gnomemeeting) is a good solution. Am I mistaken? Ideally, it sh

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
Lisi wrote: On Sunday 08 April 2012 17:15:49 PMA wrote: P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to fight, as they bec

Installing and setup drupal6 on Debian Squeeze

2012-04-08 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi, I just installed drupal6 on my Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze system on my headless Power PC. At installation I choosed to automatically create MySQL database 'drupal6'. After successfully(?) installation I edited file: sudo nano /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default [snip] Alias /drupal6 /u

Re: [OT] Re: Free as in speech hardware ebook reader

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 19:21:22 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > On 04/07/2012 07:45 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:12:45 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: >> >>> Having a bad track record of not taking care of "dead tree" books, I >>> am looking to buy an electronic book reade

Double quotes, single quotes

2012-04-08 Thread Dr Beco
Dear deb users, I can't seem to find the correct combination of quotes to run this command: $vi +"r ! find . -name 'error*' -printf '%f\n'" themain.c Is there a way to achieve this (using bash)? Thanks! Beco -- Dr. Beco A.I. research, Cognitive Scientist and Philosopher Linux Counter #201942

Re: Grub-install problems was Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Frank McCormick
On 12-04-08 12:09 PM, Indulekha wrote: In linux.debian.user, Frank McCormick wrote: I mounted sda2, and tried to ChRoot into it. I couldn't...I kept getting an error message "unable to run /bin/zsh" Perhaps because it's /usr/bin/zsh? I don't know...I didn't master the SystemRescue disk :

Re: Grub-install problems was Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Frank McCormick wrote: > I mounted sda2, and tried to ChRoot into it. I couldn't...I > kept getting an error message "unable to run /bin/zsh" Perhaps because it's /usr/bin/zsh? -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 08 April 2012 17:15:49 PMA wrote: > P.S.  I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a >          Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the >          message (like the two at top here).  They're what I have to >          fight, as they beckon, "Now

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:58:19 +, Camaleón wrote: >> I have tried w/ liferea - and it truly has more features than the >> claws-mail's plug-in - but to my sorrow it again re-lists the removed >> items so that I read through it again. >> >> Any idea? OR You simply discern it by read/unread token

Re: [OT] Re: Free as in speech hardware ebook reader

2012-04-08 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
On 04/07/2012 07:45 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:12:45 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > >> Having a bad track record of not taking care of "dead tree" books, I am >> looking to buy an electronic book reader. > > (...) > > I'm following very closely the ongoing movements of K

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread hvw59601
Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:25:30 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: > on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I > see lines: > > Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease > Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] > Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Csanyi, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Indeed, I find there a file: 'google-talkplugin.list'. APT also checks this directory. You will probably find dl.google.com listed in this file. If you don’t like that behaviour, remove the file :-) The functionality is meant to provide third-term vendors such

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
Scott Ferguson wrote: ... Which part of "my bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling" did you not understand? You're too quick to claim offence. I know this last is true. If caught in it I've offended you 'too', I'm sorry. The LilyPond list (a digital-music-scoring site) had been deb

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Csanyi Pal
Patrick Wiseman writes: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I >> see lines: >> >> Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease >> Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] >> Get: 36

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
[I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org] On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: (...) Interested parties ... please head to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Csanyi Pal
Claudius Hubig writes: > Hello Csanyi, > > Csanyi Pal wrote: >> Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] >> Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] >> Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] > >> In my sources.list I have lines: > >> Must I wor

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > Hi, > > on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I > see lines: > > Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease > Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] > Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] > Get: 37 htt

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 22:15:21 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good time of the day, Camaleón. > > > Thank You for Your time and answer: > > (snipped) > >>As I said, I think they're following different targets although the >>above is not always so, I mean, you can find a company using e-mail >>based a

Re: Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 09:41, Gary Roach wrote: I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a long time in that it fails to boot the first time I try. The rea

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal wrote: > > Hi, > > on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I > see lines: > > Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease > Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] > Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [

Grub-install problems was Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Frank McCormick
On 08/04/12 08:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 08/04/12 05:49 AM, Paul Saunders wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: [cut] The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, b

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Scott Ferguson wrote (remainder of your trolling ignored): > > as this will habituate people to expect your mail to be signed, > > Nope. Wishful thinking at best. True story: Last weekend, I sent a friend an email to get him come help me move a couch. For complex reasons I neglected to sign it. M

Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > I don't have aptitude, never used it. Why would one need apt-get and aptitude > together? > As a debian user since 2003 I was so accustomed to using apt-get that I just stuck with it until squeeze, at which point curiosity compelled me to fool wi

Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Csanyi, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] > Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] > Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] > In my sources.list I have lines: > Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.c

Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?

2012-04-08 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:07:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Configuring Icedove to use PGP/MIME is just two clicks. If you read > all messages, you know that I will move to PGP/MIME when anyone on > this list explains to me how do I manually verify signature with PGP/MIME. > > Verifying IN

Re: No sound from Gnash in Iceweasel or Epiphany or from VLC

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:19:15 -0400, Kevin Williams wrote: (please, turn off html, thanks...) > The video works just fine in both applications, but it has no sound. > However, I can play ogv videos with sound just fine from Gnome Sound > Recorder and Totem Movie Player. > > My preferred sound

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 00:32, PMA wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: >> >> >>> I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a >>> given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, >>> separately from the issue of verification. >> >> Oh good -

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, Chris Bannister wrote: > > No, you are confused. There are three entirely different distinct styles: > 1) Top posting > 2) Bottom posting > 3) Interleaved, inline, conversation. style. > > Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions. > correct? > There are

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-08 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Camaleón. Thank You for Your time and answer: (snipped) >As I said, I think they're following different targets although the >above is not always so, I mean, you can find a company using e-mail >based alerts in a very similar way it does RSS and viceversa (you can >get ver

Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 00:20, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I > have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; > intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. > > Google doesn't provide much enlightenment, has anyone got any ti

Re: skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:20:49 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I > have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; > intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. There is no native 64-bits Skype packages for Linu

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote: > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the > bottom" Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is. >>>

[OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:41:08 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am > switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a > long time in that it fails to boot the first time I try. The reason is > that it can't find the

Re: [OT] Something about google search

2012-04-08 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > Thanks for all. > > 1] I installed the greasymonkey. > > 2] I download the Add Links to Google Bar form > http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/115780 > > 3] : I don't know how to set the mail.google.com to the host of > www.google.com, changed (document.locati

Re: bash: halt: command not found

2012-04-08 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Brian, Brian wrote: > On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 15:34:10 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( > > > > Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install > > upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. > > Acccor

skype?

2012-04-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. Google doesn't provide much enlightenment, has anyone got any tips, please? -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@va

Re: RAID1 does not boot

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:11:40 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub >>> Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the >>> device map /boot/grub/device.map. Ch

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, separately from the issue of verification. Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a d

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > If GPG INLINE signature is so big problem to everyone on this list, lets > make agreement. > > I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with > it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature ma

Re: bash: halt: command not found

2012-04-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 15:34:10 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( > > Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install > upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. Acccording to http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the >> >> bottom" >> > >> > Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is. >> >> No sir, is just the name what i

Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:52:53 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:57:34PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> - Pan (as newsreader for reading/post to mailing lists) - Mutt (as >> e-mail client for personal things) - Thunderbird (as e-mail client for >> work) - Liferea (as news feeder

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: > I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a > given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, > separately from the issue of verification. Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a digital signature u

Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> �I have run into a problem in Mepis but have been unable to get an answer >>> yet from that community group. The distro is based o

Rants and raving in Las Vegas. (was ... Re: [OT] Something about google search)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 05:22:02PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: > > Thanks for all. > > > > 1] I installed the greasymonkey. LOL, anything like "the gimp"? (Pulp Fiction reference.) > If you have problems with the script it's best to contact the maintainer > (at

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread keith
Chris Bannister wrote: Some people say that if you get a laptop with a finger identification setup on it you are safer, I say, the opposite, I want to keep all my fingers. All that does is prevent someone seeing your password -- Sent from Free Open Source Software Debian GNU/Linux --

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
Scott Ferguson wrote: ... I take that you are unable to defend your assertion that signing has a point without having to validate the sender. ie. it demonstrates that the email from an unverified sender is verified. Almost. I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a give

Re: bash: halt: command not found

2012-04-08 Thread J. Bakshi
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:34:10 +0200 Claudius Hubig wrote: > Hello J., > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( > > Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install > upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. > > To reinstall sysvinit, try > > # ap

Re: [OT] Something about google search

2012-04-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 04/08/2012 08:34 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2012-04-08, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: >>> Thanks for all. >>> >>> 1] I installed the greasymonkey. >> >> Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p > > They should change it then because "I installed the

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/04/12 22:36, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point >>> to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their m

Re: bash: halt: command not found

2012-04-08 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello J., "J. Bakshi" wrote: > I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. To reinstall sysvinit, try # apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit This will also fix it if your local installa

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:59:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Though it's worth pointing out that the terms "interleaved, inline, > conversation, etc." are relatively new - reflecting, perhaps, a > longer-standing practice. I can remember religious arguments about > top vs. bottom posting back

bash: halt: command not found

2012-04-08 Thread J. Bakshi
Hello list, My system has been messed up :-( I have done a apt-get upgrade and since then some of the commands are not available in my box as root !!! ``` #whoami root #halt bash: halt: command not found #reboot bash: reboot: command not found I checked and the i

Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Frank McCormick
On 08/04/12 05:49 AM, Paul Saunders wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: [cut] The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed Icewm, I notice when I lo

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread PMA
Chris Bannister wrote: [Please trim your posts on this mailing list] On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:14:34AM -0400, PMA wrote: I'm not sure "utterly" is quite the word. Nobody in signing thinks a signature is needed to identify him. You're not confusing the cryptographic signature with the norma

Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote: > > I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point > > to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their mail, > > that alone will set off alarm bells

Re: [OT] Something about google search

2012-04-08 Thread Curt
On 2012-04-08, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: >> Thanks for all. >> >> 1] I installed the greasymonkey. > > Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p They should change it then because "I installed the greasy monkey" is the most beautiful English s

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 14:01, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) > Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 > >> My whole key is not in signature.

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 13:51, Chris Bannister wrote: <...> >> >> As I have explained at least two times, K9 Mail which I use on >> Android doesn't support S/MIME. It cannot sign nor encrypt nor >> verify S/MIME signatures. > > Oh look! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 > My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to > this message. It diplays like so: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:36:02AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote: > > Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was > >> pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first > >> started complaining about it

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:05:30AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> > >> I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 > >> Mail. > > > > Nice try. :) > > > > Us

Re: terminal prompts

2012-04-08 Thread Paul Saunders
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick > > wrote: > >> [cut] > >> > >> The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed > >> Icewm, I notice when I load an exterm, the prom

Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

2012-04-08 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
May I suggest the following command in order to see where files may be hidden? du -hx --max-depth=1 / | sort -h It may take a longer time to complete. It only examines the root partition. It should also show hidden disk usage in case something is mounted on a directory with files in it. The com

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 08.04.2012 12:24, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen > wrote: >> >> I only press the "sign" button and message is signed correctly and I >> can verify it. > > Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the "sign" > button, then. :-) > That

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > I only press the "sign" button and message is signed correctly and I > can verify it. Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the "sign" button, then. :-) -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

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