Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Pau Climent i Pérez
Anem per parts, 1) Faig un apt-get update i després un apt-get upgrade en una màquina que feia un temps que no usava (6 mesos?). 2) L'apt-get upgrade acaba petant amb un segmentation fault cada vegada que es crida a dpkg 3) Intente fer un dpkg-reconfigure -a, resultat, segmentation fault. Passa

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Blackhold
fés servir aptitude en comptes d'apt :) viam si tens sort! - Blackhold http://marsupi.org ~ cal lluitar contra el fort per deixar de ser febles, i contra nosaltres mateixos quan siguem forts (Esquirols) El dia 4 març de 2014 20.30, Pau Climent i Pérez pclimentpe...@gmail.com ha escrit: Anem

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Pau Climent i Pérez
Com hauré d'instal·lar aptitude si dpkg és mort (en cas de baixar un .deb)? És més, com dic, no puc obrir un terminal (és a dir, tampoc no puc baixar el codi font i compilar)!! Pau. El dia 4 març de 2014 19.40, Blackhold blackholdmai...@gmail.com ha escrit: fés servir aptitude en comptes

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Josep Sànchez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Si la màquina aquesta anava bé l'últim cop que la vas tocar, aquests errors pinten a problema del ferro. Jo provaria amb una live abans de fer res més per descartar opcions. Salut. - -- S’ha enviat des del meu telèfon Android amb K-9 Mail. Si us

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread hubble
El Tue, 4 Mar 2014 19:30:00 + Pau Climent i Pérez pclimentpe...@gmail.com va dir: Açò fa olor a que necessitaré un LiveCD? No trobo massa lògic que es trenquin tantes aplicacions, llavors una bona manera de començar seria, amb una live-cd, fer-hi una ullada al sistema de fitxers del disc

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Josep Lladonosa
2014-03-04 20:53 GMT+01:00 Pau Climent i Pérez pclimentpe...@gmail.com: Com hauré d'instal·lar aptitude si dpkg és mort (en cas de baixar un .deb)? És més, com dic, no puc obrir un terminal (és a dir, tampoc no puc baixar el codi font i compilar)!! ...i instal·lar de nou des d'una ISO sense

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Josep Lladonosa
2014-03-04 20:57 GMT+01:00 hubble hub...@telefonica.net: El Tue, 4 Mar 2014 19:30:00 + Pau Climent i Pérez pclimentpe...@gmail.com va dir: Açò fa olor a que necessitaré un LiveCD? No trobo massa lògic que es trenquin tantes aplicacions, llavors una bona manera de començar seria, amb

Re: Uff, dpkg mort, apt mort, bash mort

2014-03-04 Thread Alex Muntada
Pau Climent i Pérez: Açò fa olor a que necessitaré un LiveCD? Totalment. Té pinta que tens problemes amb les llibreries dinàmiques bàsiques (libc o similar). Salut, Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Tito
Bonjour la liste :) Bien, je viens de comprendre mon problème avec ta remarque... En effet, je suis aller voir la conf de privoxy et listen-adress etait comme cela :8118 sans 127.0.0.1:8118 ou localhost:8118... J'ajoute donc à la mano 127.0.0.1:8118 et je relance le bousin et hop, même

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Le 04/03/2014 10:18, Tito a écrit : Bonjour la liste :) Bonjour Bien, je viens de comprendre mon problème avec ta remarque... En effet, je suis aller voir la conf de privoxy et listen-adress etait comme cela :8118 sans 127.0.0.1:8118 ou localhost:8118... J'ajoute donc à la mano

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread andre_debian
On Tuesday 04 March 2014 10:41:59 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote: Le 04/03/2014 10:18, Tito a écrit : Bien, je viens de comprendre mon problème avec ta remarque... En effet, je suis aller voir la conf de privoxy et listen-adress etait comme cela :8118 sans 127.0.0.1:8118 ou localhost:8118...

Re: Joindre deux OS en dual boot

2014-03-04 Thread Georges
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:02:17 +0100 Bzzz wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:55:29 +0100 Jean Louis Giraud giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote: ...et comme d'habitude dans ce genre de sport ne pas oublier de faire une sauvegarde de son système avant toute manipau cas où Sauf que vous

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Tito
Bon, je vais résumé ce que j'ai fait :) -installation systeme de base wheezy avec dépot main -installation du DE Mate -configuration de mon fichier interfaces de la sorte: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid Ma box wpa-psk mon passephrase wifi un redémarrage du reseau est ma connexion wifi

Re: Joindre deux OS en dual boot

2014-03-04 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 04 mars 2014 à 11:37, Georges a écrit : Bonjour, mais FW c'est quoi ? FirmWare ;-) je suis un débutant ;-) Oui, c'est ça. De plus en plus de périphériques ne font qu'une partie de leur boulot et délèguent l'autre partie à l'ordinateur qui exécute un programme dédié, le firmware. Sans ce

Re: Joindre deux OS en dual boot

2014-03-04 Thread Georges
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:28:06 +0100 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: On Monday 03 March 2014 18:55:37 damien ADDE wrote: Bonjours, J'aurais aimez savoir si l'on peut gérer Debian a partir de Windows fonctionnant en dual Boot. Je demande ceci car je n'est pas de connexion sous Debian mais

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 04 mars 2014 à 11:46, Tito a écrit : Voilà, je ne sais pas si c'est un bug ou une mauvaise manip de ma configuration de mon fichier interfaces mais j'ai retracé mon parcours qui m'a ammené à poster sur cette liste. Si c'est un bug, dîtes le moi et je le ferai remonter ;) Tu

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Gaël
Hello! Devais-je ajouter auto lo à cette configuration? Ou plutôt, tu n'aurais jamais du l'enlever !! L'interface loopback est *fondamentale*. On ne peut pas espérer avoir un système fonctionnel sans loopback. Ceci résume très bien. les lignes auto lo et iface lo inet loopback sont

Re: Joindre deux OS en dual boot

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:50:28 +0100 Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr wrote: Oui, c'est ça. De plus en plus de périphériques ne font qu'une partie de leur boulot et délèguent l'autre partie à l'ordinateur qui exécute un programme dédié, le firmware. Sans ce firmware, le périphérique ne

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Tito
Ok, merci :) C'était bien une ECC et non un bug. Oui, je n'en doute plus mais comme mon wifi était opérationnel, je n'avais pas remarqué cette bourde de ma part ;) Enfin, c'est bien par nos erreurs que nous apprenons! Tschüsss les ami-e-s --- On Tue, 4 Mar 2014

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:46:48 +0100 Tito t...@mailoo.org wrote: que sort la commande ifconfig ? -- L'optimiste pense que ceci est le meilleur des mondes possibles. Le pessimiste craint que ce ne soit vrai. -- Robert Oppenheimer -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:46:48 +0100 Tito t...@mailoo.org wrote: oublié: et que sort la commande: route ? -- Ce n'est pas parce qu'une chose est loi qu'elle est juste, c'est parce qu'une chose est juste qu'elle doit devenir loi. -- Montesquieu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Tito
Ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 10:bf:48:1a:9b:37 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000

Re: [résolu] Re: Privoxy

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:11:54 +0100 Tito t...@mailoo.org wrote: Ok, donc il semble que les PB soient terminés. -- Les vieillards aiment à donner de bons préceptes pour se consoler de n'être plus en état de donner de mauvais exemples. -- La Rochefoucauld -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser

Re: voir le contenu du PC sur la freebox

2014-03-04 Thread maderios
On 03/04/2014 06:48 PM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: bonjour à tous, depuis l'avènement de la Révolution, le freeplayer n'étant plus utilisable, j'ai essayé la solution UPnP avec mediatomb, sans succès. J'ai 2 questions: 1/ j'ai désactivé la fonction routeur de la freebox, car j'utilise un

voir le contenu du PC sur la freebox

2014-03-04 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
bonjour à tous, depuis l'avènement de la Révolution, le freeplayer n'étant plus utilisable, j'ai essayé la solution UPnP avec mediatomb, sans succès. J'ai 2 questions: 1/ j'ai désactivé la fonction routeur de la freebox, car j'utilise un routeur Netgear. Est-ce que l'UPnP peut fonctionner

Utilisation d'un bluetooth sous debian user friendly

2014-03-04 Thread C. Mourad Jaber
Bonjour, Je suis à la recherche d'une solution pour utiliser un casque bluetooth comme une sortie audio standard... J'ai récement acquis un Creative D200 (c'est une pair d'enceinte bluetooth mais c'est un profile headset). Sous KDE j'arrive à appairer mon ordinateur avec les enceintes, il

Re: Utilisation d'un bluetooth sous debian user friendly

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:50:10 +0100 C. Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net wrote: Seulement voilà, ce périphérique n'apparait nulle part, kmix ne l'ajoute pas et dans la configuration de KDE, il n'y a rien de plus ! IIRC kmix, comme certains autres mixers, nécessite de cocher le device (sèpu où

changer le point de montage clé USB

2014-03-04 Thread Jose CHARTERS
Bonjour, Je viens d'installer jessie amd64. Je fais le tour du propriétaire. Et je remarque que lorsque je monte une clé USB, il le fait sur le répertoire /media/user/libellé de la clé. L'ennui, c'est que j'ai d'autres machines en wheezy et que le point de montage sur ces machines est

Rotation de logs Xorg

2014-03-04 Thread oliv.perdriel
Bonsoir, je suis confronté à un problème de rotation de logs concernant Xorg. En fait les rotations s'exécutent mais les anciens fichiers ne sont pas supprimés et je me retrouve avec des centaines de fichiers de log. Je suis sous Jessie (Linux 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1 (2014-02-01)

Re: Rotation de logs Xorg

2014-03-04 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 22:53:45 +0100 oliv.perdriel oliv.perdr...@free.fr wrote: Je souhaiterais comprendre pourquoi j'ai autant de fichiers de log Xorg, Sans doute que le 0 a perduré après un crash de X ou changé de droits. comment y remédier Sors de X et vire-les tous. et surtout savoir

Re: changer le point de montage clé USB

2014-03-04 Thread nb
Le Mardi 4 Mars 2014 22:29 CET, Jose CHARTERS jose.chart...@free.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Je viens d'installer jessie amd64. Je fais le tour du propriétaire. Et je remarque que lorsque je monte une clé USB, il le fait sur le répertoire /media/user/libellé de la clé. L'ennui, c'est que j'ai

X Studencki Festiwal Informatykow-2013.

2014-03-04 Thread Krzysztof Zubik
W dniu 05.11.2013 21:42, Krzysztof Zubik pisze: Witam. Juz rozpoczeto organizacje 10 Studenckiego Festiwalu Informatycznego w Krakowie. Bedzie, to jubileuszowa edycja najwiekszej konferencji IT w Centralnej Europie. Witryna pod http://www.sfi.org.pl Termin. Od 27 czwartek do 29 sobota

Re: freeradius

2014-03-04 Thread Francesc Guitart
Buenos días, El 03/03/2014 23:50, t...@sumag.co.cu escribió: Hola, ya configurado radius y ejecutandose , le agregue un user a la bd de nombre tony y a la hora de conectarme con ese use y su passwd me da este error... Aguien podria explicarme como configurar daloradisu para agregar usuarios por

Re: Problemas con Xorg y tarjetas intel

2014-03-04 Thread Antonio
El 03/03/2014 9:34, fernando sainz escribió: El día 3 de marzo de 2014, 9:24, Antonio n27deb...@gmail.com escribió: El 28/02/2014 16:11, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:57:47 +0100, Antonio escribió: Tengo debian 7 instalado en varios equipos Dell micro intel y tarjetas gráfica

LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Joaquin Moyares Rojas
saludos lista, necesito saber si alguien esta usando la aplicación LightSquid para generar los reportes de squid, pues en los reportes que me genera, no me muestra la url completa a la que el usuario accedió, EJ: http://www.joomlahacks.com/ en ves de mostrarme

Re: Error Instalación Debian Testing

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:02:04 -0500, Edwin Carrillo escribió: Descargue la semana pasada la .iso de la testing que se genera semanalmente, y hoy también la net install en .iso, ambas en i386. Me genera la duda si a alguien mas en el momento de la instalación, se queda estancada en el paso

Re: freeradius

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:50:40 -0500, tony escribió: Hola, ya configurado radius y ejecutandose , le agregue un user a la bd de nombre tony y a la hora de conectarme con ese use y su passwd me da este error... Aguien podria explicarme como configurar daloradisu para agregar usuarios por ahí y

Re: [semi-OT]Comparaciones de Google Chrome vs Firefox en Debian

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:42:47 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista. Hace poquito recibí esta noticia por un boletín electrónico, quizás ya la hayan leído, igual la comparto[1]. Se titula: Chrome, ¿qué te está pasando? Te has vuelto tan lento como el viejo Firefox. (Perdón si se

Re: Bug#725809: Debianedu skolelinux

2014-03-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ d-u-s@: If there's anything to be fixed in d-i, please follow up (in English) to this partially-automatedly-translated message. ] Hola Adrián, [Adrián Garnier] agarnie...@gmail.com (2013-10-08): Package: installation-reports Boot method: Cómo arrancó la instalación?: Con un CD Image

Re: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:52:56 -0500, Joaquin Moyares Rojas escribió: saludos lista, necesito saber si alguien esta usando la aplicación LightSquid para generar los reportes de squid, pues en los reportes que me genera, no me muestra la url completa a la que el usuario accedió, EJ:

Re: Bug#725809: Debianedu skolelinux

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:17:51 +0100, Cyril Brulebois escribió: (...) El sistea se instaló correctamente. Durante el proceso se indicó la contraseña para el root y se definió un usuario con su correspondiente contraseña. El ERROR es que al iniciar el sistema, escribo el usuario y la

[OFF-TOPIC] Duda almacenamiento servidor HP ProLiant MicroServer G7 N54L

2014-03-04 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, voy a preparar un equipo para un cliente para que trabajen 3 personas en un sistema compartido de carpetas con samba en debian. El equipo en cuestión es este: http://www8.hp.com/es/es/products/proliant-servers/product-detail.html?oid=5336624#!tab=features La duda que me surge es si

Re: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Joaquin Moyares Rojas
resuelto, cambiando en el archivo de confg lightparser.pl la línea #simplified some common banner system counters $url=$Lurl; por #simplified some common banner system counters #$url=$Lurl; resolví El 04/03/2014 11:00, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:52:56

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Duda almacenamiento servidor HP ProLiant MicroServer G7 N54L

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:57:32 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, voy a preparar un equipo para un cliente para que trabajen 3 personas en un sistema compartido de carpetas con samba en debian. El equipo en cuestión es este:

Re: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 12:10:56 -0500, Joaquin Moyares Rojas escribió: El 04/03/2014 11:00, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:52:56 -0500, Joaquin Moyares Rojas escribió: saludos lista, necesito saber si alguien esta usando la aplicación LightSquid para generar los reportes de squid,

Re: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Joaquin Moyares Rojas
socio, docu, no tengo, lo instale y fui probando hasta que di en el clavo... eso lo instale hace mas de un año, lo que hago si se me cae el sistema es reemplazar la salva que tengo hecha de él y listo. El 04/03/2014 12:54, William Romero escribió: El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 12:10:56 -0500, Joaquin

RE: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread William Romero
El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 12:10:56 -0500, Joaquin Moyares Rojas escribió: El 04/03/2014 11:00, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:52:56 -0500, Joaquin Moyares Rojas escribió: saludos lista, necesito saber si alguien esta usando la aplicación LightSquid para generar los reportes de

Re: LightSquid

2014-03-04 Thread Joaquin Moyares Rojas
alguna otra alternativa en debian 6 para ver los log de squid. Este mensaje ha sido enviado desde el servidor de correo de la Empresa de Recuperación de Materias Primas Guantánamo Más de 50 años RECUPERANDO VALORES.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Duda almacenamiento servidor HP ProLiant MicroServer G7 N54L

2014-03-04 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 4 de marzo de 2014, 18:30, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:57:32 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, voy a preparar un equipo para un cliente para que trabajen 3 personas en un sistema compartido de carpetas con samba en debian. El equipo en

Re: Error Instalación Debian Testing

2014-03-04 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:20:46 -0500 Edwin Carrillo ca...@esdebian.org escribió: Coño, si se instala testing precisamente es para probarla y si alguien encuentra un error reportarlo, de eso se trata el ciclo de desarrollo. exacto, lo hace gente que tiene conocimiento del S.O. y lo prueba, lo

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 8:46 GMT+01:00 David Guntner da...@guntner.com: Steve Litt grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Hi all, Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: == GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4

Re: Could russians maintain a traditional linux debian? Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:00:53PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Another 'persona' Mr Naturist Linux? Mail headers from 20140303074232.529c2...@m0005296.ppops.net show us that: Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35])

Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hi, every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal user. Like here: $ ping example.com ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted I didn't care so far and just reinstalled iputils-ping and everything worked again. I did this three or four times since ~ November

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd FUD

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/03/14 17:11, Bret Busby wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 03 mar 14, 18:57:09, Bret Busby wrote: I think that it is unfortunate that we are apparently expected to throw out all of our hardware (including printers and

Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: == GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com $GARBAGE :0: *

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: As a single example, I have a multifunction printer, of which, the multifunctionality worked with Debian 5. Now, it is only a laser printer, running with Debian 6 - to use it to scan, I have to scan to a USB drive, and then copy the files to the

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 9:38 GMT+01:00 Bret Busby b...@busby.net: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: == GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: *

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: Hi, every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal user. Like here: $ ping example.com ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted I didn't care so far and just reinstalled iputils-ping and everything worked again.

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/4/14, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: As a single example, I have a multifunction printer, of which, the multifunctionality worked with Debian 5. Now, it is only a laser printer, running with Debian 6 - to use it to scan, I have to scan to a USB

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 3. März 2014, 20:50:09 schrieb Steve Litt: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools wouldn't be a

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 04:29:52PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: The device had available, a software suite, named the Samsung Unified Print Driver. That worked with Debian Linux 5. It apparently does not work with Debian Linux 6. Something changed from Debian Linux 5, to Debian Linux 6,

Re: clean upgrade 32 - 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box into the new one and doing any minor configuration changes that'll be neede (which will be

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Pertti Kosunen
On 4.3.2014 11:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to crasp?) When is this change coming to unstable? Will it need any special actions when upgrading? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:31:45AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: == GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Guntner da...@guntner.com [14-03/03=Mo 23:46 -0800]: Unless you have a reason to want one test per address, you could simply put them all in a single test. :0: * ^From.*(naturalli...@dcemail.com|arnoldb...@cosmicemail.com|usspookslovesys...@muchomail.com|fredw...@mail.ru) $GARBAGE

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools wouldn't

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 06:44:33PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how to work

trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I know of nice, but that just changes process priority, but still allows a process to use up to 100% of cpu. trickle is a bandwidth shaper for network usage and is easy to use and works well. Is there an equivalent for CPU, so that I can shape the cpu bandwidth of an application? I want to be

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:16:34PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I want to be able to say use maximum 10% of CPU. cgroups are definitely THE tool for doing this. The best starting point IMO would be installing cgroup-bin and reading its' documentation. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Brian
On Tue 04 Mar 2014 at 09:16:15 +0100, Tim Ruehsen wrote: # ls -la /bin/ping -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46672 01-02-14 22:18:43 /bin/ping The file size indicates this is /bin/ping6 (amd64 platform) Now I reinstalled iputils-ping: # ls -la /bin/ping -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44080 01-02-14

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools wouldn't

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:33:44 -0800 Arnold Bird arnoldb...@cosmicemail.com wrote: Is it not in the unfree repository? Alot of stuff was moved there. AFAIK, it's not in the repos at all, just distributed by Brother. --- cele...@gmail.com wrote: From: Celejar cele...@gmail.com To:

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
From: ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net To: debian-user at lists.debian.org Subject: Re: trickle for cpu ? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:54:25 +0100 On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 16:32 +0400, Reco wrote: cgroups Zenaan does use jackd, or at least once tested jackd. using Cgroups might be a bad idea, at least

Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread ha
Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD (but booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, crated a small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the usual installation process. However, at the end of installation I always receive the message like:

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:06:59AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard from our LUG's

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-04 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 3/3/2014 7:27 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Two comments: 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is. I'd have to give the Universal crown to NetBSD: http://www.netbsd.org/ports/#ports-by-cpu Maybe one of the other

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:46:39 -0800 David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Steve Litt grabbed a keyboard and wrote: clip GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com $GARBAGE :0: *

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote: Lately I would add :0B * .*(systemd) $GARBAGE :0 * ^Subject.*(systemd) $GARBAGE I can't do that, because I really need to know about that stuff. When Jessie becomes stable, I'm going to try to work

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:38:17 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: clip GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com $GARBAGE :0: *

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 15:45 GMT+01:00 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com litt...@gmail.com: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote: Lately I would add :0B * .*(systemd) $GARBAGE :0 * ^Subject.*(systemd) $GARBAGE I can't do that, because I

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 10:16:35 +0100 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: At least for Jessie as far as I understand all other inits are still planned to be packaged. So either stick with sysv + insserv or choose another one. The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 09:37:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: I would strongly consider a hybrid of the existing sysVinit and daemontools or runit -- runit being a reimplementation of daemontools that avoided the

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread David Guntner
Bret Busby grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: [...] I'll probably have to add more to that as he comes on line with a slew of other identities, but .procmailrc is a pretty easy filtering ^ mechanism. Is that procmail,

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/04/2014 10:00 AM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to crasp?) Yes, it *was* hard for me to grasp. Reading all the email, I didn't understand that I'd still have a

DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Danny
Hi Guys, Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP or MAC? Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? Just wondering Thank You Danny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier OT in re systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140304_160239, Raffaele Morelli wrote: 2014-03-04 15:45 GMT+01:00 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com litt...@gmail.com: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote: Lately I would add :0B * .*(systemd) $GARBAGE :0 *

Re: clean upgrade 32 - 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2014 05:12 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box into the new one and doing any minor configuration

Re: Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:54:05PM +0100, ha wrote: Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD (but booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, crated a small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the usual installation process. However, at the end

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On 04/03/2014 12:32, Danny wrote: Hi Guys, Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP or MAC? Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? Just wondering Thank You Danny Need some more information about what you're trying to do

Re: Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread Erwan David
Le 04/03/2014 14:54, ha a écrit : Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD (but booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, crated a small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the usual installation process. However, at the end of installation I

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Perhaps you could use PAM. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/debi386/etc/security/limits.conf # /etc/security/limits.conf # #Each line describes a limit for a user in the form: # #domaintype item value # #Where: #domain can be: #- an user name #- a group name,

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:03:44 +0100 Ralf Mardorf kde.li...@yahoo.com wrote: PS: Perhaps you could use PAM. Bad idea. Violation of cpu shell limit will kill offending process: $ bash $ ulimit -t 1 $ while true; do true ;done Killed Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Mark Carroll
Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com writes: Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP or MAC? Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? I guess you could probably have a couple of different dhcpd configuration files and set a cron job on that

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread William Ivanski
In our company we use a single dhcpd file, and the access control per time of day is done with iptables and squid. William Ivanski 2014-03-04 17:06 GMT-03:00 Mark Carroll m...@ixod.org: Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com writes: Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Chris Davies
Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP or MAC? Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? - What should happen when that device requests an IP address outside those times? - If it's to be refused, can

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
Second thoughts On 04/03/14 20:17, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: Hi, every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal user. Like here: $ ping example.com ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted snipped Now I

Read-only rootfs on systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Amit
Hello, I always run my debian systems with a separate /, /home, and /var. I added read-only 'ro' mount to fstab for the root / partition. So far it has been working great. However, setting up a fresh install of systemd, the readonly does not have any effect. The rootfs is still mounted as rw.

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 01:37, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: On 3/3/2014 7:27 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Two comments: 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is. I'd have to give the Universal crown to NetBSD:

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread John Hasler
Scott Ferguson writes: Sorry I don't have access to a Sid box at the moment - perhaps someone who has, and for whom ping is working could post the output of getcap `which ping`?? /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+p -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

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