Re: Swappiness in Buster

2020-07-07 Thread Martin Reissner
For the sake of completeness, I seem to have solved it after some more research and it turned out to be systemd, as following bug that was reported for Centos7 seems to be applying to Debian Buster as well: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/9276 Luckily the workaround mentioned in: https

Re: [offlist] Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 02:59:20AM +, Ajith R wrote: Hi David, As a rule, send replies to the listserv address:     debian-user@lists.debian.org 2. In-Line replies, instead of Top-Posting 3. I apologise for being a Terrible Person Hey! I tho

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iul 20, 02:35:09, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 8/7/20 2:11 am, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > The short answer is that there simply isn't a good reason to do this > > on a modern system, and there is no volunteer to donate the enormous > > amount of effort required to make > > something

Re: Can slrn decode MIME messages?

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 17:11:08, Borden Rhodes wrote: > Not a direct answer to your question, but the etiquette on the lists > is to use plain text only messages wrapped at 80 characters to 72 allows for several levels of quoting without re-wrapping ;) > maximise compatibility with clients - I assume

Re: systemd-nspawn networking inside VirtualBox VM

2020-07-07 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > since I am not well educated about macvlan, ipvlan, I could not get the > > networking working at all. I would like to avoid using > > "systemd-networkd/systemd-resolvd" especially on the Buster host - using > > those > > it seems should make everything work automagically. > > If you rea

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iul 20, 10:44:39, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > - so try somewhere in the session startup apps - nope, courdn't > figure it out at least For Debian you want ~/.xsessionrc Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iul 20, 09:59:52, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > $HOME/bin is placed into the user's default PATH by Debian's ~/.profile > > (the one in /etc/skel/.profile) if it exists at the time the ~/.profile > > is read, if the ~/.pro

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 16:28:16, Gary Dale wrote: > > The package maintainers are who make packages stable, not the product > developers. Hmm... > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. For the particular software named "Firefox" there is. It's Mozil

Re: Thunderbird replacement suggestions?

2020-07-07 Thread Tom Dial
On 7/4/20 15:38, Tom Dial wrote: > Greetings. > > While trying to fix a broken Thunderbird/Enigmail installation on my > wife's Windows laptop, I found the cause to be a new feature in > Thunderbird 78, installed recently without notice: that it will not > support Enigmail. The new version also

Re: [not-so-offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 Ajith R wrote: Hi David, Debian conformant style looks like this instead: Do I understand the style correctly now? LOL. Probably not. Maybe I should have allowed your discovery of the mailing list's quoting conventions to take its natural course. It was maybe silly

Re: [offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iul 20, 02:52:02, Ajith R wrote: > > Do I understand the style correctly now? Mostly. Think of it as "conversational" style, with the reply following the portion of text it addresses. Other text should be removed, unless it provides useful context (would your message make sense if re

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 20:20:11 (-0400), Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 09:59:52AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:17:37PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 07, 202

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 17:55:34 (-0400), Borden Rhodes wrote: > >> It would help if you said which version of Debian you're using. > > > >And which boot parameter. > > Debian Bullseye. I want to add pci=nomsi to the boot parameters to > troubleshoot a USB 3 issue. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Grub#

Re: [offlist] Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 02:59:20AM +, Ajith R wrote: > Hi David, > > >>> > As a rule, send replies to the listserv address: > >     debian-user@lists.debian.org > > 2. In-Line replies, instead of Top-Posting > 3. I apologise for being a Terrible Person Hey! I thought I had a patent, trade

Re: [offlist] Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 Ajith R wrote: Hi David, As a rule, send replies to the listserv address:     debian-user@lists.debian.org 2. In-Line replies, instead of Top-Posting 3. I apologise for being a Terrible Person I didn't pay attention to the fact that the from address in the email was

Fw: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi Zenaan, I'm not sure if it's been asked or stated by you, but which desktop are you using?   I am using KDE Thanks, ajith

Re: [offlist] Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi David, >>> As a rule, send replies to the listserv address:     debian-user@lists.debian.org 2. In-Line replies, instead of Top-Posting 3. I apologise for being a Terrible Person >>> I didn't pay attention to the fact that the from address in the email was yours and not that of the list se

Re: [offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi David, >>> Debian conformant style looks like this instead: >>> Do I understand the style correctly now? BTW, a query about how the original message is quoted with '<'. Is it done by hand or does any email clients do it automatically?  Is it necessary that each line s marked with '<'? Or

Re: debsecan does not report a vulnerability?

2020-07-07 Thread Victor Sudakov
l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi, > > 7 juil. 2020 à 09:23 de v...@sibptus.ru: > > > After reading your replies and the Debian security advisories, I made up > > my mind that I probably just want to now if new versions of packages are > > available in the repos. Perhaps it's the best thing I can do abo

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 davidson wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 iul 20, 21:41:11, Andy Smith wrote: I still wouldn't use OP's system for anything except curiosity or maybe propping a door open. That's probably the only use for which it is better than a Raspberry Pi (or

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... Do you think I can insta

Re: .Xresources for xless

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:27:55AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:07:35AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Running up-to-date Buster here, amd64: > > Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 > > (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > > I have mo

Re: .Xresources for xless

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:07:35AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Sorry to be all over the court here. I am an older um gentleman, and I am on a I take it an "um gentleman" means "übér mènsche" :) That sounds rather awesome actually... > -- > A test of right and wrong must be the means, one wo

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:16:21AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Gods, I am so tired of this question and having to repeat my demands > for BASIC information over and over. > > Here are some resources for those of you who refuse to reveal any of > the necessary background information to get answe

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 iul 20, 21:41:11, Andy Smith wrote: I still wouldn't use OP's system for anything except curiosity or maybe propping a door open. That's probably the only use for which it is better than a Raspberry Pi (or equivalent) ;) Isn't OP's system l

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 Zenaan Harkness wrote: I'm not sure if it's been asked or stated by you, but which desktop are you using? Elsewhere in the thread, https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/885539452.3315628.1594115314...@mail.yahoo.com OP mentions using Konsole and Kate, to test changes ma

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 09:59:52AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:17:37PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:14:16PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > cd ~/bin > > > > ln -

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Keith bainbridge
On 7/7/20 1:26 pm, Keith bainbridge wrote: On 7/7/20 8:20 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer versio

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Ahh, asked too soon. Thanks Greg. On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:16:21AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57:34AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > The Subject line is the problem > > Yeah. The Subject: line reveals the problem: you believe that PATH is > set primarily by

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:17:37PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:14:16PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > > cd ~/bin > > > ln -s ../opt/something/bin/something > > > > Not in the default PATH either. >

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 Jul 2020 at 02:35:09 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 8/7/20 2:11 am, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:45:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> On Wed 08 Jul 2020 at 00:41:12 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >>> On 2/11/14 8:58 am, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > >>>

Re: AMD FirePro - second monitor

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 10:57:05PM +0200, Jakob Miksch wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am running Debian "Sid" on a desktop PC with the "AMD ATI FirePro W5100" > graphics card. When I connect a second monitor, Debian recognizes it but the > monitor stays black. I can even move windows on it, but I

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I'm not sure if it's been asked or stated by you, but which desktop are you using? If you're new to Debian, perhaps just the default. I am using XFCE and in the menu: Applications → Settings → Keyboard there are three tabs "Behaviour", "Application Shortcuts" and "Layout". Under the "Layou

Re: No "type=APPARMOR_ALLOWED/DENIED" logs

2020-07-07 Thread l0f4r0
Hi Didier, 6 juil. 2020 à 23:42 de didier.gau...@gmail.com: > man -s7 apparmor seems to indicate (DEBUGGING section) that for the DENY > messages to appear, you have to "Turn off deny audit quieting" and for the > ALLOW messages to appear you have to "Force audit mode" > Thanks for having check

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
>> It would help if you said which version of Debian you're using. > >And which boot parameter. Debian Bullseye. I want to add pci=nomsi to the boot parameters to troubleshoot a USB 3 issue. https://wiki.debian.org/Grub#Configuring_GRUB_v2 says that /etc/default/grub ought to exist, if it doesn't

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 davidson wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will

Re: Can slrn decode MIME messages?

2020-07-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
Not a direct answer to your question, but the etiquette on the lists is to use plain text only messages wrapped at 80 characters to maximise compatibility with clients - I assume because the list forwards the messages using text-only headers. I get digests. Even though I'm reading on modern e-mail

Re: How do I troubleshoot wireless network dropping?

2020-07-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
> So far the OP hasn't provided any information on what network management > tool is in use, we can only guess. Fair comment. I just assumed that everybody uses Network Manager these days. I travel with my laptop to different WiFi networks, and I never did learn any other form of WiFi setup. For t

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 20:39:05 (+0100), Joe wrote: > Yes, my bank occasionally becomes inaccessible to FF, though not > usually for more than about a week, when a cluebat has been wielded. I > switch to Midori until it is fixed. It's a more limited browser, but it > usually seems to handle sites th

Re: debsecan does not report a vulnerability?

2020-07-07 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 7 juil. 2020 à 09:23 de v...@sibptus.ru: > After reading your replies and the Debian security advisories, I made up > my mind that I probably just want to now if new versions of packages are > available in the repos. Perhaps it's the best thing I can do about > vulnerabilities. > > So I wrot

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of having fir

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread floris
Borden Rhodes schreef op 2020-07-07 20:43: I know this is an amateur question, but I want to make sure that I do it correctly the first time. I want to add a boot parameter, so what file do I edit/create to do so? My computer doesn't have a /etc/default/grub file. I can't tell you why. I didn't

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Gary Dale wrote: > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. The maintainers just need to install the bug fix patches > created to fix the bugs in that particular version. This is exactly what > they do when significant bugs are found in the stable ver

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, Please tell us the output of: dpkg -l | grep -i grub Best regards, l0f4r0

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:28:16PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. There are several things I can think of. One of them is "common sense". Another one is "Debian policy". But you can't hear anything that violates y

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of having firefox and firefox_esr available and br

nixos

2020-07-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
I got this installed since debian has no foldingathome package. It may work but is very slow when nix-env -qa is run even to present the first package. If I were working I wouldn't have any time for this package so it will be interesting to see if it works at all. I managed to get enough drivers i

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread Brian
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 15:14:33 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 02:43:15PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > My computer doesn't have a /etc/default/grub file. I can't tell you > > why. I didn't intentionally delete it. I have a bunch of configuration > > files in /etc/grub.d ,

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:10:54 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 07 iul 20, 09:26:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit > > union) last > > Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and blocked > > me. > > > > it was far fr

Re: .Xresources for xless

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 10:07:35, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Running up-to-date Buster here, amd64: > Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 > (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I have moved to a display manager (wmd), so is my xrdb ~/.Xresources line > (xrdb ~/.Xresources) i

Re: /etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 02:43:15PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > My computer doesn't have a /etc/default/grub file. I can't tell you > why. I didn't intentionally delete it. I have a bunch of configuration > files in /etc/grub.d , but I don't want to touch any of them because I > don't know what pu

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 09:26:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit > union) last > Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and blocked me. > > it was far from painless but a couple links to the security statements in > the Debian Wi

Can slrn decode MIME messages?

2020-07-07 Thread Charlie Gibbs
Due to the high volume of messages in this mailing list, I prefer to read it via the newsgroup linux.debian.user using slrn. This works well for the most part. However, some messages (e.g. ones from Matthew Campbell) are MIME-encoded. I see appropriate headers: Content-Type: text/plain; charse

/etc/default/grub doesn't exist, what to do?

2020-07-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
I know this is an amateur question, but I want to make sure that I do it correctly the first time. I want to add a boot parameter, so what file do I edit/create to do so? My computer doesn't have a /etc/default/grub file. I can't tell you why. I didn't intentionally delete it. I have a bunch of co

Re: Fw: Fwd: How do I troubleshoot wireless network dropping?

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iul 20, 19:44:06, Matthew Campbell wrote: > I wouldn't recommend using ifconfig to enable or disable your second > network card. It is somewhat deprecated. Try using ifup and ifdown. Apples and... apple pie? ifupdown is a network management tool, relying on other low level tools to do

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iul 20, 21:41:11, Andy Smith wrote: > > I still wouldn't use OP's system for anything except curiosity or > maybe propping a door open. That's probably the only use for which it is better than a Raspberry Pi (or equivalent) ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDe

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Look at https://backports.debian.org/ Note that for Firefox you need to go to https://mozilla.debian.net/ -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 01:25:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > And the 'deb' line in sources.list for stretches backports is? https://www.google.com/search?q=debian%20backports%20stretch https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ Once you find the instructions for buster, just replace "buster"

hex editor for huge files

2020-07-07 Thread hexpeek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 hexpeek: a hex editor for huge files Occasionally I need to work with huge binary files. Over the years I've tried many different tools and never found one that was exactly what I wanted. In my experience most hex editors either (1) do not work wel

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 12:32:39 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a > > big enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even > > before the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the > > distros shoul

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 12:26:58 Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: > >> On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > If y

Re: key "cdrom" not found in map source(s).

2020-07-07 Thread Reiner Buehl
Here the complete grep cdrom /var/log/syslog: Jul 7 10:48:44 bilbo automount[31697]: key "cdrom" not found in map source(s). Jul 7 11:35:04 bilbo automount[31697]: key "cdrom" not found in map source(s). Jul 7 11:39:20 bilbo automount[31697]: key "cdrom" not found in map source(s). Jul 7 11:40

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 8/7/20 2:11 am, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:45:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Wed 08 Jul 2020 at 00:41:12 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> On 2/11/14 8:58 am, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >>> > * David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]: >>> >> On Friday 31 Octobe

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then Debian

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a big > enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even before > the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the distros should > turn up the heat to get it out into the users hands asap.

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:45:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Wed 08 Jul 2020 at 00:41:12 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 2/11/14 8:58 am, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]: >> On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > [...] > >>> I

Re: systemd-nspawn networking inside VirtualBox VM

2020-07-07 Thread john doe
On 7/7/2020 3:13 PM, Didar Hossain wrote: Hi, TL;DR How to get systemd-nspawn containers networking so that they can talk to each other, the host and the internet inside a Buster VM? VirtualBox on Windows 10 which has internet connectivity via a wireless interface. I am running a Buster VM wi

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 Jul 2020 at 00:41:12 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 2/11/14 8:58 am, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > * David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]: > >> On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>> It's your decision. MODULES=most should be okay. B

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > > Debian is not meant for you. > > >

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > but I will say one thing, you might run testing if your bank insists > you have the latest thing (browser). Get a browser from Backports. Or use Chromium. You're probably allowing Google full access anyway. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > Debian is not meant for you. > > Wow, not sure what sparked that response, Probably the fact th

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi, From the above, it sounds to me that you are saying you would like a *single* keypress to result in entry of the above geminate form. Do I understand you correctly?Yes, perfectly. And if so, are you setting aside the question of how to enter the simple glyph   ങ (U+0D19) as an ex

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi, I test it by typing the letter from the keyboard (using shift / without it based on the layout specification) from the same terminal (Konsole) that i use setxkbmap to change to my layout. Then I run another terminal using the desktop link and try tying it. Then I try in Kate. And finally I

Re: Real bounces from debian-user

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 06 Jul 2020 at 22:10:10 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > TL;DR: How can I use *one* query (web or otherwise) > to retrieve *all* my recently-bounced debian-user mail, > or a list of URLs by which they can be retrieved? Would subscribing to the digest (as well) help? I haven't checked what a

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2020-07-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 2/11/14 8:58 am, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * David Baron [2014-11-01 19:13 +0200]: > >> On Friday 31 October 2014 13:08:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > [...] > >>> It's your decision. MODULES=most should be okay. BUSYBOX=y is >>> essential. >> >> This is what the install gave me. I hav

Re: Real bounces from debian-user

2020-07-07 Thread Kushal Kumaran
"Will Mengarini" writes: > TL;DR: How can I use *one* query (web or otherwise) > to retrieve *all* my recently-bounced debian-user mail, > or a list of URLs by which they can be retrieved? > I don't know if this would be too radical a change, but you can also use a news reader to access the mail

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Nicolas George
Jonathan Dowland (12020-07-07): > Not in the default PATH either. No, but probably one of the first things anybody who has non-elementary use will have configured anyway. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:17:37PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:14:16PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > cd ~/bin > > ln -s ../opt/something/bin/something > > Not in the default PATH either. $HOME/bin is placed into the user's default PATH by Debian's ~/.profile (th

Re: .Xresources for xless

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:07:35AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Running up-to-date Buster here, amd64: > Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 > (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I have moved to a display manager (wmd), so is my xrdb ~/.Xresources line > (xrdb ~/

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:06:08AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > Debian is not meant for you. > > Wow, not sure what sparked that response, but I will say one

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:14:16PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: cd ~/bin ln -s ../opt/something/bin/something Not in the default PATH either. -- 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57:34AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > The Subject line is the problem Yeah. The Subject: line reveals the problem: you believe that PATH is set primarily by your shell. It's not. It's set primarily by your method of login, and then by your session tools, whether t

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Nicolas George
Roberto C. Sánchez (12020-07-07): > You should add the export command to ~/.bashrc (for it to only be in > effect for that user) Except ~/.bashrc is only sourced for interactive shells, it will not be run when applications are executed by a GUI, for example. (Also, for some reason, the bash autho

.Xresources for xless

2020-07-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
Running up-to-date Buster here, amd64: Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux I have moved to a display manager (wmd), so is my xrdb ~/.Xresources line (xrdb ~/.Xresources) in .xinitrc being called into the loop, so to speak? Or

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57:34AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > The Subject line is the problem with my Debian Buster platform. Now from > Google I see that there has been a change in the way Debian handles this > problem. > I'm not sure what change you are referring to, but from what you des

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > Debian is not meant for you. Wow, not sure what sparked that response, but I will say one thing, you might run testing if your bank insists you have the latest thing (

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with > the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of > having firefox and firefox_esr available and bring it to Testing. You don't understan

How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

2020-07-07 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
The Subject line is the problem with my Debian Buster platform. Now from Google I see that there has been a change in the way Debian handles this problem. My user path statement is: comp@AbNormal:~$ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games Now I have a number of app

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-07 02:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 iul 20, 23:33:46, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-06 20:00, Bob Weber wrote: Firefox 78 is in unstable.  I run testing but I occasionally pick up things in unstable if they don't mess up testing like firefox.  I have used it for a while mainly wa

systemd-nspawn networking inside VirtualBox VM

2020-07-07 Thread Didar Hossain
Hi, TL;DR How to get systemd-nspawn containers networking so that they can talk to each other, the host and the internet inside a Buster VM? VirtualBox on Windows 10 which has internet connectivity via a wireless interface. I am running a Buster VM with hand picked minimal packages, networking

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:44:38AM +, Ajith R wrote: > I copied one line from your keyboard configuration file and  my keyboard file > looks like this now :# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE > > XKBMODEL="pc105" > XKBLAYOUT="in" > XKBVARIANT="eng" > XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:caps,termina

Re: HP z820 workstation Soundcard?

2020-07-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Peter Ehlert wrote: > running a HP z820 workstation, Buster Mate. > onboard sound does not cut it. > > I need more volume, and 5.1 stereo would be great What are you planning on connecting the 5.1 audio to? Yes, this is relevant. -dsr-

Re: Using .XCompose

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi David, Thanks for your reply.I presume XCompose(3) is a typo for 5, the file format section. There you will find that you don't use the XK_ prefix here. I was looking at XCompose(3). Thanks for pointing out the mistake. As I understand .XCompose, it is designed for "compositing",

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:26:32PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] > >You're not disallowed from installing Firefox from Mozilla, it's > >just not packaged because [... stable ...] > Not disallowed but not exactly allowed. By whom? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: debsecan does not report a vulnerability?

2020-07-07 Thread Victor Sudakov
Victor Sudakov wrote: > > There is something about debsecan I don't understand, can you please clarify > for me? After reading your replies and the Debian security advisories, I made up my mind that I probably just want to now if new versions of packages are available in the repos. Perhaps it's

Re: How do I get the mbr package to do its job quietly?

2020-07-07 Thread Gerald
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Re: Swappiness in Buster

2020-07-07 Thread Martin Reissner
On 06/07/2020 23:27, deloptes wrote: > May be look deeper in documentation - I recall asking few years ago and was > answered that now it would cache whatever it can and will free on demand. > swap is done only if memory is really insufficient. > > I don't recall when or where I asked read this >

Re: HP z820 workstation Soundcard?

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iul 20, 15:52:32, Peter Ehlert wrote: > running a HP z820 workstation, Buster Mate. > onboard sound does not cut it. > > I need more volume, and 5.1 stereo would be great > > I have a couple free PCIe slots > > What sage advice can I get here? > > Internal vs USB > Brand? > budget is