Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian ???buster????

2021-01-10 Thread William Torrez Corea
cat /etc/debian_version 10.7 cat /etc/apt/sources.list # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/

Re: MacOS Big Sur balenaEtcher Bug

2021-01-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:02:41 -0500 Stephen Muscarella wrote: > I downloaded the debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso image from the home > page on Big Sur. ... > Any thoughts or ideas? I suspect corruption during downloading. Did you check the checksums? https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify For

Re: Radeon opengl driver problem - buster

2021-01-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/1/21 8:36 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 10/1/21 12:52 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: inxi -Fxz (...) Graphics:   Device-1: AMD Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon   v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-10 at 19:32, Felix Miata wrote: > Leandro neto composed on 2021-01-10 23:42 (UTC): > >> I am trying to report this since October 2019 > > Trying to report exactly what (in detail)? > >> all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and >> see by yourself > > See

Re: Radeon opengl driver problem - buster

2021-01-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 10/1/21 12:52 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: inxi -Fxz (...) Graphics:   Device-1: AMD Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon   v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa   resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz   OpenGL:

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Leandro neto composed on 2021-01-10 23:42 (UTC): > I am trying to report this since October 2019 Trying to report exactly what (in detail)? > all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and see by > yourself See what by self? Remove what access to your machine? --

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-11 04:35 (UTC+0500): > Otherwise it would be recommended to use by nouveau project developers. [2] Producers of products aren't normally given to recommending use of competing products. > [2] >

MacOS Big Sur balenaEtcher Bug

2021-01-10 Thread Stephen Muscarella
Hello, I downloaded the debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso image from the home page on Big Sur. I tried to flash it with balenaEtcher and am running into problems. When the flash is complete in balenaEtcher, it says files cannot be read by the system and when I look at the size of the USB

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Leandro neto
I am trying to report this since October 2019   all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and see by yourself    leandro Enviado via UOL Mail Assunto: Re: Monitor resolution wrong De: avbe...@gmail.com Enviado em: 10 de janeiro

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 22:18, Felix Miata wrote: I wasn't aware of that limitation. Here's an older version of essentially the same thing: I've skimmed through that thread and pretty much agree with a

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread grumpy
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line I second that motion. all in favor let go of your momma's teat and raise

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP server. While it once required a VAX > >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: > totally with you on this. > > but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion > starting with the subject line > I second that motion. On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > This is not the place for a political discussion.

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Andrei POPESCU composed on 2021-01-10 18:31 (UTC+0200): > Peter Ehlert wrote: >> John Hasler wrote: >>> ...Upgrading works well and is >>> supported and recommended by Debian. >> sometimes, but not always. I prefer Reinstall, it's painless > The install? Sure. > Migrating all your

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:54:41 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 17:05:09, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > > >

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:39:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 16:58:57, Joe wrote: > > > > I thought of the --get-selections route, but decided against it. > > There may be a few specific packages responsible for the problems. > > Certainly an exact clone is exactly what I don't

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Weaver
On 11-01-2021 02:28, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 05:27:26, Weaver wrote: >> >> Unless you're running a server, it's a good idea to be running SID, and >> then you don't have to worry about it anyway. > > Been there, done that. One can learn a lot, especially from the troubles >

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 17:05:09, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Carl Fink writes: > > > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 16:58:57, Joe wrote: > > I thought of the --get-selections route, but decided against it. There > may be a few specific packages responsible for the problems. Certainly > an exact clone is exactly what I don't want. So I'm spending a lot of > time with apt, taking the

Re: Network and KDE lost after testing upgrade

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[This is more appropriate for debian-user, adding to Cc:] On Du, 10 ian 21, 20:08:31, Xavier wrote: > > Thanks, network-manager is still there but I have to launch it manually, And does it work correctly when starting it manually? > systemd-network.service is launched but no link are launched.

[solved] Re: Ipv6, but no Ipv4 after reboot

2021-01-10 Thread Dominique Dumont
Looks like this problem is gone with latest kernel (5.10). Thanks for your help. Dod

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 19:01 (UTC+0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Notice the absence of "nouveau". You may better understand this choice among >> three >> rather than two by reading here: >>

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > Carl Fink writes: > > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > > > > decades. > > > It is an

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:46:53 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 05:27:26AM -0800, Weaver wrote: > > On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > >> Carl Fink writes: > > >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on

Re: [Hors sujet et dérive sur les licenses] Possible missing firmware

2021-01-10 Thread Pierre Malard
1024 « +1 »  J’ai rarement lu un exposé plus clair sur ces concepts sensibles et complexes. Bravo > Le 10 janv. 2021 à 12:35, Haricophile a écrit : > > Le Sun, 10 Jan 2021 08:56:32 + (GMT), > Odile Benassy a écrit : > >> Justement, nous parlons le français, il n'y a aucune ambiguïté

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > Carl Fink writes: > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > > > decades. > > It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is > > supported and recommended

Re: [HS] Message suspect

2021-01-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 10:10:01PM +0100, MERLIN Philippe wrote a message of 26 lines which said: > le deuxième fait c'est que l'adresse mail n'est pas exactement la > mienne je ne comprends pas comment cela a pu arrivé dans ma boite > mail ? C'est parce qu'il y a deux choses dans un

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 05:27:26, Weaver wrote: > > Unless you're running a server, it's a good idea to be running SID, and > then you don't have to worry about it anyway. Been there, done that. One can learn a lot, especially from the troubles (which I got into literally days after the first time I

Re: [HS] Message suspect

2021-01-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 08:37:53AM +0100, k6dedi...@free.fr wrote a message of 64 lines which said: > J'ai vu dans "Linux pratique" qu'ils parlaient de Pi-Hole pour > éviter les pubs et les pourriels. Je vois bien comment Pi-Hole protège contre une partie des publicités mais je ne vois

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 14:34:42, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > If the reason to use "nouveau" is to "eradicate tainting software", > then what about myriads of other proprietary blobs in your system? One step at a time ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Re: [Hors sujet et dérive sur les licenses] Re: Possible missing firmware

2021-01-10 Thread Haricophile
Le Sun, 10 Jan 2021 08:56:32 + (GMT), Odile Benassy a écrit : > Justement, nous parlons le français, il n'y a aucune ambiguïté dans > notre langue. Profitons-en pour défendre la liberté des utilisateurs, > sans timidité ! > > (notez qu'il n'est pas nécessaire, pour autant, de tancer les >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your > comments to debian technical questions. >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
bust it dude On 1/9/21 11:33 PM, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mm wrote: > >> >> On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: >>> W?dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o?godzinie 15?33?+0100, u?ytkownik mm napisa?: Cheers, Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere.

Re: (deb-cat) Sense PHP 8 a Debian 11 ?

2021-01-10 Thread Àlex
Per cert, aquí està la discussió de si PHP 8.0 entra a Debian estable o no, i els motius que donen els mantenidors:    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=976811

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 15:49, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 14:34 (UTC+0500): Felix Miata wrote: ... Personally, I can't imagine any real reason to use "nouveau", because it is trapped in development hell for years now ... Anyway, the choice to use an opensource

Re: (deb-cat) Sense PHP 8 a Debian 11 ?

2021-01-10 Thread Àlex
Bones, Aquesta notícia és d'avui de Fedora, però potser dona pistes dels motius pels quals PHP 8.0 no passa a la propera Debian estable que comença a congelar-se passat demà:    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=PHP-8.0-For-Fedora-35 Per cert, el nucli 5.10 LTS finalment ha

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 05:27:26AM -0800, Weaver wrote: > On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >> Carl Fink writes: > >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > >>> decades. > >> It is an incorrect recommendation.

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Weaver
On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> Carl Fink writes: >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for >>> decades. >> It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is >> supported and recommended by Debian. > >

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Carl Fink writes: I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for decades. It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is supported and recommended by Debian. sometimes, but not always. I prefer Reinstall, it's

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 14:34 (UTC+0500): > Felix Miata wrote: ... > Personally, I can't imagine any real reason to use "nouveau", because it > is trapped in development hell for years now ... > Anyway, the choice to use an opensource "nouveau" or proprietary > "nvidia"

Re: [Hors sujet et dérive sur les licenses] Re: Possible missing firmware

2021-01-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Giraud
Bonjour, Puisque nous somme sur une liste de Debian, il peut être utile de rappeler, au-delà des débats sémantiques, que le contrat social de Debian qui renferme les principes qui président au développement du projet Debian comprend une partie intitulée "les principes du logiciel libre selon

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 09 ian 21, 19:58:06, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sat, 2021-01-09 at 23:39 +0100, deloptes wrote: > > Carl Fink wrote: > > > > > The recommendation is to reinstall instead. It's easier and doesn't > > > take much more time. > > > > Please do not share your personal thoughts as recommendations. I

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 09 ian 21, 15:25:17, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My version actually is Debian 4.19.146-1 (2020-09-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux. > Please show the output of 'apt policy'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 06:27, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 05:22 (UTC+0500): ...so you need to install "nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver"... Most likely that's false. As you should be able to see above, old NVidia cards don't require tainting software to run X on modern

Re: [Hors sujet et dérive sur les licenses] Re: Possible missing firmware

2021-01-10 Thread Odile Benassy
- Sébastien Dinot a écrit : > > Parce qu'en anglais, « Free » est aussi ambigu que « Open Source » et Justement, nous parlons le français, il n'y a aucune ambiguïté dans notre langue. Profitons-en pour défendre la liberté des utilisateurs, sans timidité ! (notez qu'il n'est pas

Re: Vidéoprojecteur sans fil ou USB

2021-01-10 Thread Informatique
Bonjour en effet ce modèle est tentant pour les amateurs de linux. François-Marie On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 22:07:35 +0100 Haricophile wrote: > Le Sat, 9 Jan 2021 17:08:35 +0100, > Informatique a écrit : > > > Bonjour > > peut être via cette solution MIRACAST : > >

Re: How automatic are backport package updates?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[removing -backports from Cc:] On Sb, 09 ian 21, 14:48:43, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Debian unstable can be quite usable, provided that you are willing to > > > > 1. Invest the time to familiarise yourself with APT and friends (dpkg, > >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Rick Thomas
This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your comments to debian technical questions.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Will Mengarini
* mm [21-01/09=Sa 23:01 +0100]: >>> still strongly advice to put your perspective to revision >>> and retrospective in a truthful and honest manner. * gru...@mailfence.com [21-01/09=Sa 16:33 -0600]: >> and can i do that in stretch or do i need buster * Ben Caradoc-Davies [21-01/10=Su 13:15