Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-22 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/22/21, Richmond wrote: > When I resume from suspend there is no networking. I cannot find a way > to restart it. I tried these various commands. > > systemctl restart network > /etc/init.d/networking restart > systemctl reset-failed > systemctl restart networking.service > systemctl restart n

systemd failed to create user.slice

2021-04-22 Thread Jochen Spieker
Hi, the short version of my problem is this, happening on a fairly fresh stable system: # systemctl start user@1000.service Job for user@1000.service failed because the service did not take the steps required by its unit configuration. See "systemctl status user@1000.service" and "journalctl -xe

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread deloptes
D. R. Evans wrote: > I will also say that the modern KDE look, with its rather astonishing > amount of wasted space, was not to my taste, although that was not the > principal reason why I installed TDE. > > The biggest two annoyances I find in TDE as compared to KDE are both in > Konqueror: a) t

Re: No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > When I resume from suspend there is no networking. I cannot find a way > to restart it. I tried these various commands. > > systemctl restart network > /etc/init.d/networking restart > systemctl reset-failed > systemctl restart networking.service > systemctl restart network-on

Re: about Wayland (was: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE)

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 5:46 PM Felix Miata wrote: > Kenneth Parker composed on 2021-04-22 17:33 (UTC-0400): > > > One thing, of course, about KDE Plasma is Wayland, instead of Xorg, which > > doesn't appear to support one of my, most used Laptops. > > Wayland isn't simple drop-in or replacement

No networking after resume from suspend

2021-04-22 Thread Richmond
From: Richmond Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: No networking after resume from suspend Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 22:34:07 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <84r1j2knqo@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) X-Draft-From: ("linux.debian.user") X-No-Arch

Re: about Wayland (was: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE)

2021-04-22 Thread Felix Miata
Kenneth Parker composed on 2021-04-22 17:33 (UTC-0400): > One thing, of course, about KDE Plasma is Wayland, instead of Xorg, which > doesn't appear to support one of my, most used Laptops. Wayland isn't simple drop-i

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Felix Miata
Kenneth Parker composed on 2021-04-22 16:23 (UTC-0400): > I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as I > am not familiar with it. > How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with KDE > (so that I can examine it), I haven't used KDE in years (usi

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:57 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:23:02PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as > I > > am not familiar with it. > > > > How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qe

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Joshua Edward Horn
On 4/22/21 4:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 April 2021 16:23:02 Kenneth Parker wrote: I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as I am not familiar with it. How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with KDE (so that I can examine

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread D. R. Evans
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote on 4/22/21 2:57 PM: On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:23:02PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as I am not familiar with it. How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with KDE (so that I can

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 17:07:05 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 03:37:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 15:10:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 02:47:43PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 14:23:13

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 16:23:02 Kenneth Parker wrote: > I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, > as I am not familiar with it. > > How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with > KDE (so that I can examine it), I haven't used KDE in years (u

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 03:37:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 22 April 2021 15:10:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 02:47:43PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 14:23:13 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:18:06

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I would also love to see networking taken out of the Linux kernel, > but this is an entirely different, hellishly "political" issue. You can compile your own kernel with no hardware network drivers. -dsr-

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > You can -almost- always go monkey and do that one way or another, but > I would like for Debian to make more official an offline mode for > using apt probably based on java, so that any machine could be used to > download packages to be then installed off-line for tho

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:23:02PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as I > am not familiar with it. > > How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with KDE > (so that I can examine it), I haven't used KDE in y

TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
I saw TDE discussed in another, recent Thread, and had to look it up, as I am not familiar with it. How does it compare with the current KDE? Other than a qemu VM with KDE (so that I can examine it), I haven't used KDE in years (using XFCE for most of my systems, but with one current Gnome Deskto

Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-22 Thread Albretch Mueller
Debian doesn't stop to amaze me. I have an "old" 2 GiB RAM MacAirbook1,1 without its hard drive and without internal CMOS timing and with only one USB port (I wonder what those folks were thinking about when they designed those laptops). A Debian live DVD boots fine from a USB hub, then I go "hw

Re: How do I add --allow-tell option to debian-spamd command?

2021-04-22 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-22 03:40 PM, Steve Dondley wrote: I recently uninstalled the stock buster package of spamassassin (3.4.2) and installed a newer version from backports (3.4.4). On 3.4.2, I had the debian-spamd command configured with the --allow-tell option. It was easy to set up as I recall. However

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 15:14:29 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Can you tell the questions which you get asked and what you > > > answered ? > > > > jigdo-lite filename.jigdo > > It would help if you quote the dialog literally, skipping lengthy > messages but telling each questio

How do I add --allow-tell option to debian-spamd command?

2021-04-22 Thread Steve Dondley
I recently uninstalled the stock buster package of spamassassin (3.4.2) and installed a newer version from backports (3.4.4). On 3.4.2, I had the debian-spamd command configured with the --allow-tell option. It was easy to set up as I recall. However, with 3.4.4, things seem a little more com

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 15:10:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 02:47:43PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 14:23:13 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:18:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:00:42

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Can you tell the questions which you get asked and what you answered ? > jigdo-lite filename.jigdo It would help if you quote the dialog literally, skipping lengthy messages but telling each question text and each of your inputs. Our list fellow Steve McIntyre, the maintainer o

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 02:47:43PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 22 April 2021 14:23:13 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:18:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:00:42 deloptes wrote: > > > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > The bu

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 14:23:13 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:18:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:00:42 deloptes wrote: > > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there > > > > aren't m

Re: scanner recommendation

2021-04-22 Thread Russell
Brian wrote: > As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there > is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner > or would an MFD suit? > > sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow you > to submit your preferred choice he

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:18:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:00:42 deloptes wrote: > > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there > > > aren't many files moving at the moment - now would be quite a good > > > tim

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:07:22 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I like to use jigdo, but > > its been putzed with since the last time I used it, and I couldn't > > make it run as it demanded far m

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 13:00:42 deloptes wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there > > aren't many files moving at the moment - now would be quite a good > > time to try an installation - and tell folks how it went. > > tried, but ther

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 11:23:42 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:40:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:35:33AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 09:52:57 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are ou

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Gene Heskett wrote: > And I like to use jigdo, but > its been putzed with since the last time I used it, and I couldn't make > it run as it demanded far more arguments than it used to. Can you tell the questions which you get a

Re: Strange emacs behavior after upgrade to bullseye

2021-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-04-20, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > Other editors (vi, kate) don't report any issue when performain an edit > operation. Is emacs trying to derive permissions in a different way? There's this bug, which may or may not be pertinent. https://gnu.emacs.bug.narkive.com/LoN17xVM/bug-37884-27-0-5

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread deloptes
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there aren't > many files moving at the moment - now would be quite a good time to try > an installation - and tell folks how it went. tried, but there are things not working, missing etc. Nothing unusual, but no

Re: Some services cannot start at boot time because /run is not initialized

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 11:37 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Is Debian using Zram now? (I will need to check my Bullseye system when > I > > get home). > > > > So is Debian "sneaking" Zram on us, or do you have to select it yourself? > > It's an option, not a default. > > -dsr- >

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 10:40:36 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:35:33AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 09:52:57 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there > > > aren't many files moving at the moment

Re: Some services cannot start at boot time because /run is not initialized

2021-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Kenneth Parker wrote: > Is Debian using Zram now? (I will need to check my Bullseye system when I > get home). > > So is Debian "sneaking" Zram on us, or do you have to select it yourself? It's an option, not a default. -dsr-

Re: Strange emacs behavior after upgrade to bullseye

2021-04-22 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi David, I did some more testing, you can see the effect on bullseye without vboxsf even on a ext4 filesystem. Am Mittwoch, 21. April 2021, 20:49:14 CEST schrieb David Wright: [...deleted a lot of history] > > -> buster emacs did not care at all about .# on filesystems which do not > > support

Re: Some services cannot start at boot time because /run is not initialized

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 8:26 AM Dmitry Katsubo wrote: > Dear Debian community, > > I have noticed that all failed services were missing some directories > under /run directory. I checked the service which is supposed to create > them: > > * systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service - Create Volatile Files an

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:40:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:35:33AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2021 09:52:57 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there aren't > > > many files moving at the

Re: Some services cannot start at boot time because /run is not initialized

2021-04-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2021-04-22 14:26 +0200, Dmitry Katsubo wrote: > Dear Debian community, > > I have noticed that all failed services were missing some directories under > /run directory. I checked the service which is supposed to create them: > > * systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service - Create Volatile Files and Dir

Re: Zoom.

2021-04-22 Thread peter
From: Tom Dial Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600 > First, as Greg Wooledge and tomas noted, You can run it using a browser, > with some possible functional limitations. Scheduled to give it a try April 30. > recommend 4GB memory and an i3/i5/i7 or equivalent AMD CPU. These are 64 > b

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:35:33AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 22 April 2021 09:52:57 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there aren't > > many files moving at the moment - now would be quite a good time to > > try an installation - an

Re: bash completion and spaces

2021-04-22 Thread Victor Sudakov
David Wright wrote: > > > > I have an example app which can be run only as "app3 -h test1 -s foo" or > > "app3 -h test2 -s bar". So I decided to provide it with a small manual > > completion for convenience. > > > > [vas@test2 ~]$ ./list.sh > > -h test1 -s foo > > -h test2 -s bar > > [vas@test2

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 April 2021 09:52:57 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 07:59:19PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 19 April 2021 14:24:09 deloptes wrote: > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > A warning to others, a "sudo apt install avrdude" did a just > > > > barely announced r

Re: bash completion and spaces

2021-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Apr 2021 at 15:28:36 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I have an example app which can be run only as "app3 -h test1 -s foo" or > "app3 -h test2 -s bar". So I decided to provide it with a small manual > completion for convenience. > > [vas@test2 ~]$ ./list.sh > -h test1 -s foo > -h te

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

2021-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 07:59:19PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2021 14:24:09 deloptes wrote: > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A warning to others, a "sudo apt install avrdude" did a just barely > > > announced reboot of my machine, and it has taken me nomonally half > > > an hou

Re: Problem with Wallpaper

2021-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 04/22/2021 09:09 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Buster/XFCE4 Desktop on an LG Model24EN33 LED Monitor. This morning, after being shut down over night , when I turned on the monitor it came up with the black wallpaper that I favor. After closing an application

Re: Problem with Wallpaper

2021-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Buster/XFCE4 Desktop on an LG Model24EN33 LED Monitor. This > morning, after being shut down over night , when I turned on the monitor it > came up with the black wallpaper that I favor. After closing an application > the portion of the screen that was cove

Re: Some services cannot start at boot time because /run is not initialized

2021-04-22 Thread Dmitry Katsubo
Dear Debian community, I have noticed that all failed services were missing some directories under /run directory. I checked the service which is supposed to create them: * systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service - Create Volatile Files and Directories Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpf

Problem with Wallpaper

2021-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Buster/XFCE4 Desktop on an LG Model24EN33 LED Monitor. This morning, after being shut down over night , when I turned on the monitor it came up with the black wallpaper that I favor. After closing an application the portion of the screen that was covered was a light gray. Changin

bash completion and spaces

2021-04-22 Thread Victor Sudakov
Dear Colleagues, I have an example app which can be run only as "app3 -h test1 -s foo" or "app3 -h test2 -s bar". So I decided to provide it with a small manual completion for convenience. [vas@test2 ~]$ ./list.sh -h test1 -s foo -h test2 -s bar [vas@test2 ~]$ complete -C ./list.sh app3 [vas@tes