Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Tom Furie writes: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:05:28AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > >> I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running >> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (+ESM). Then my desktop is Debian 11 under Chromebook. >> >> Ubuntu's advantage is 10 years. > > I can't interpret

Re: What's the correct procedure for replacing a DKMS module when it's upstreamed?

2023-03-28 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Mar 28 2023 at 03:07:10 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Kushal, > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 08:13:33PM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> If you installed a -dkms package to get the kernel module (there are >> several such packages in the debian repositories), > > Yep, that's what I did. The git

Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:05:28AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running > Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (+ESM). Then my desktop is Debian 11 under Chromebook. > > Ubuntu's advantage is 10 years. I can't interpret what this 10 year advantage

Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:05:28AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > cor...@free.fr writes: > > > Dear list, > > > > Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try > > on ubuntu 22.04. > > Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on > > dev/ops

Re: Unable to open Thunderbird as default calendar app

2023-03-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/03/2023 05:01, John Boxall wrote: I am trying to launch Thunderbird as my calendar application when opening a webcal link. Your description is too general, it lacks details. E.g. you did not provide exact commands and their output that you use to check that defaults are set properly.

Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2023-03-29 5:49 GMT+05:00, cor...@free.fr : > Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try > on ubuntu 22.04. > Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on dev/ops > environment? Ubuntu more quickly upgrades to fresh versions and have longer lts

Re: debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
cor...@free.fr writes: > Dear list, > > Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try > on ubuntu 22.04. > Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on > dev/ops environment? I have experience both Ubuntu and Debian. Google cloud vm is running Ubuntu

debian 11 vs ubuntu 22

2023-03-28 Thread coreyh
Dear list, Though I have been using debian 11 for long days, I want to give a try on ubuntu 22.04. Do you know what's the main difference for these two systems on dev/ops environment? Thanks Corey Hickman

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
OK this is what the gradle folks told me/us: https://discuss.gradle.org/t/gradle-wants-as-java-version-openjdk-11-even-if-a-newer-version-is-installed/45254/6 Gradle itself would just use the Java from your JAVA_HOME or as fallback from PATH (given you use a version that is compatible with

Re: USB discs no detectats/muntats

2023-03-28 Thread Jordi Miguel
Hola, Fa pinta que estas utilitzant usbguard i aquest està bloquejant el dispositiu USB. A l'enllaç [1] que et poso trobaràs com autoritzar el dispositiu USB que endolles i com fer aquest canvi permanent. [1] https://askubuntu.com/a/1331639 Salutacions, -- Para ser realmente grande, hay que

Unable to open Thunderbird as default calendar app

2023-03-28 Thread John Boxall
I am trying to launch Thunderbird as my calendar application when opening a webcal link. Though I have updated all appropriate gnome-mimeapps.list and mimeapps.list files and used xdg-mime to query and set the default calendar application, my user session wants to open Evolution. The GNOME

USB discs no detectats/muntats

2023-03-28 Thread Xavier Narcís
Hola , Tinc un ordinador amb Debian. Quan inserto un llapis de memòria no me'l reconeix. $ sudo dmesg | grep -i usb | tail [ 5178.345857] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 4C530009460109105141 [ 5178.346732] usb 1-1: Device is not authorized for usage [ 5194.783328] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number

Re: ssh -N en alleen maar ssh -N toestaan (succes)

2023-03-28 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hoi Geert, Op 27-03-2023 om 23:22 schreef Geert Stappers: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 12:07:38AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 26-03-2023 om 23:51 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Hoi Geert en anderen, Op 26-03-2023 om 12:50 schreef Geert Stappers: Hoi, Uit `man 1 ssh`    -N  Do not execute a

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-28 Thread debian-user
Richmond wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > > > >> I tried this in rxvt(-unicode), xterm, and lxterm (which is > >> apparently part of the xterm package -- never heard of it > >> before!). > > > > It's lxterminal, not lxterm, and it's part of LXDE so I'm surprised > > if it's

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
Let me try to disabuse myself somewhat with a bit of humor. Some of you have been telling me for a long time about how "visually upsetting" and "procedurally obnoxious" I am and as they say: "misunderstanding is as mutual as love should be". I can't really make sense of what you are telling me,

[Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-28 Thread Ismael Farfán
Hello I'm trying to install Bookworm on a G513QY laptop with MT7921 wifi adapter. As soon as the installer (Net or DVD) tries to detect the HW, the installer stops blank. The last thing I see in dmesg is something like Detected ethernet HW, renamed to eth0 (succeed) then... : Failed to load

Re: How to install virtual keyboard for KDE

2023-03-28 Thread Yvan Masson
For those interested in KDE's own virtual keyboard status, Nate Graham gave an explanation here: https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-to-enable-virtual-keyboard-included-in-kde/264/2 Regards, Yvan OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-28 Thread Richmond
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: >> I tried this in rxvt(-unicode), xterm, and lxterm (which is apparently >> part of the xterm package -- never heard of it before!). > > It's lxterminal, not lxterm, and it's part of LXDE so I'm surprised if > it's bundled with xterm. > lxterm and lxterminal

Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages keptback)

2023-03-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 07:54:07PM +0200, tomas wrote: > [...] It has an extensive man page. Here [1] [2] you might > draw some inspiration on what you can do. Gah. Forgot the links: [1] https://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/color_mods/#level-colors [2]

Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages keptback)

2023-03-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 12:48:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > gimp could probably do it, but I get lost in endless menu's. You can batch gimp and then use one of its embedded languages (script-fu, python, there might be more). But I never tried. > > imagemagick won't run from the cli,

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 05:19:09PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Interstingly, though, in rxvt-unicode, if I only press Ctrl-Shift and > > skip the U, a small region of the terminal window (lower left corner, > > which is annoyingly right where the cursor is)

Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages keptback)

2023-03-28 Thread gene heskett
On 3/28/23 06:53, davidson wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 09:18, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-27): changing 33 to 30 will get you black. ANSI color escapes are on the web in many places. Also, decent terminal emulators let users tweak the colors, and

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-28 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 08:45:18PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk > wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Just to be clear, are you using some kind of Desktop Environment > > > specific means of entering these Unicode characters? I don't know > > > what

Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages keptback)

2023-03-28 Thread gene heskett
On 3/28/23 06:53, davidson wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 09:18, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-27): changing 33 to 30 will get you black. ANSI color escapes are on the web in many places. Also, decent terminal emulators let users tweak the colors, and

Re: Which takes priority, ipv4, or ipv6?

2023-03-28 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 12:48:13PM +0100, Richmond wrote: > So how is the preference determined? It seems to be determined by the > DNS, but why or how do I tell for example with host -v? I'm not adding anything new here, only pulling together what has already been said in several different

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/28/23, Nicolas George wrote: > Cindy Sue Causey (12023-03-28): >> Has "diff" come up in this thread yet? > The thread is in the archives. Yes, pleeze! Thank you very much! lbrtchx

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
Even though I think it is not a problem with gradle per se, I was trying to make sense of things by also raising those issues with them: https://discuss.gradle.org/t/gradle-wants-as-java-version-openjdk-11-even-if-a-newer-version-is-installed/45254 those gradle folks should avail jar files

Re: What's the correct procedure for replacing a DKMS module when it's upstreamed?

2023-03-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Kushal, On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 08:13:33PM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > If you installed a -dkms package to get the kernel module (there are > several such packages in the debian repositories), Yep, that's what I did. The git repository I linked to builds an rt89-dkms .deb package. >

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread gene heskett
On 3/28/23 01:02, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 02:02:43PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 11:31, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:00:48AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Would it be practical to put a filter in the path cups put things headed to a

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12023-03-28): > Has "diff" come up in this thread yet? The thread is in the archives. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/28/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 3/28/23, Nicolas George wrote: >> I suggest you show the contents of this file instead ... > > Did you mean you would rather have me post both 348 line files > instead of showing that they are the same? (I had eyeballed them, BTW) Has "diff" come up in

Dovecot error invalid service_fd

2023-03-28 Thread Michel Verdier
Hi all I set postfix sending mails to dovecot for mailbox storage: mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp dovecot listen with lmtp: service lmtp { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp { mode = 0666 user = postfix group = postfix } } passdb {

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Nicolas George
Albretch Mueller (12023-03-28): > Did you mean you would rather have me post both 348 line files > instead of showing that they are the same? That would have been less useless. But… > (I had eyeballed them, BTW) … you already knew how to make it even less useless. > as I showed by running

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/28/23, Nicolas George wrote: > I suggest you show the contents of this file instead ... Did you mean you would rather have me post both 348 line files instead of showing that they are the same? (I had eyeballed them, BTW) as I showed by running "which ..." and "... -version" on the

Re: gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Nicolas George
Albretch Mueller (12023-03-28): > $ sudo apt-get install gradle --dry-run > jdk-19.txt I suggest you show the contents of this file instead of showing us five times it is identical to the previous one. But the explanation is quite obvious: > $

gradle wants openjdk-11 even if a newer version is installed? ...

2023-03-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
I was having issues with the installation of gradle (the groovy DSL based compilation tool) and I think it relates to gradle assuming you have version 11 of the jdk installed: $ sudo apt-get install gradle --dry-run > jdk-11.txt $ JAVA_HOME="/media/user/078TG3336/graalvm-ce-java19-22.3.0"

Re: Which takes priority, ipv4, or ipv6?

2023-03-28 Thread davenull
On 2023-03-27 13:48, Richmond wrote: I have configured an ipv6 tunnel. If I visit this site: http://ip6.me/ The "normal" test shows my ipv4 address, and the: http://ip6only.me/ shows the ipv6 address. However if I switch my DNS from opendns to the one provided by my ISP and then run the

alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back)

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 gene heskett wrote: On 3/27/23 09:18, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-27): changing 33 to 30 will get you black. ANSI color escapes are on the web in many places. Also, decent terminal emulators let users tweak the colors, and making sure all main colors are

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2023-03-28 10:56, davidson wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Jesper Dybdal wrote: On 2023-03-27 10:59, davidson wrote: It baffles me that the number of packages suggested for autoremoval is different, between guile-2.2-libs and w3m. Me too. The two packages depend on different collections of

Re: Buster => Bullseye: doveadm now requires root privileges

2023-03-28 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2023-03-28 11:16, Sven Hartge wrote: Jesper Dybdal wrote: I have a cron job that cleans up all old mail from the mailbox that I use for my mobile phone by running "doveadm expunge" every night. [snip] Solution is to move the contents of /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf to another file in

Re: [HEALED] Re: Something tweaked my Firefox appearance

2023-03-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:45:11 -0400 "hobie of RMN" wrote: Hello hobie, >Thanks, Dan and Brad. :) I rebooted the machine (not just the desktop) YW. >and everything returned to normal. Go figure. :) Sometimes, sh* err, "stuff 'appens" :-) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is

Re: How do I specify a custom apt dependency between kernel image and its headers?

2023-03-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 12:19:05PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Ram Ramesh writes: > > > How do I tie the install of linux-image to linux-header so that I cannot > > install image without the headers. > > In my experience it's been enough to install linux-image-amd64 and > linux-headers-amd64.

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread Anssi Saari
Jesper Dybdal writes: > On 2023-03-26 23:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 5:16 AM Jesper Dybdal >> wrote: >>> Yesterday, I upgraded Buster => Bullseye. >> For completeness, here is the Debian procedure for a release upgrade: >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade . >

Re: How do I specify a custom apt dependency between kernel image and its headers?

2023-03-28 Thread Anssi Saari
Ram Ramesh writes: > I have nvdia card that requires binary driver to work in my system. Xorg is > unable display anything with free driver. Since nvidia-driver has to be > built for each kernel install, I need to install headers also. This seem to > work automatically for any standard kernel

Re: Buster => Bullseye: doveadm now requires root privileges

2023-03-28 Thread Sven Hartge
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > Yesterday, I upgraded Buster => Bullseye. > I have a cron job that cleans up all old mail from the mailbox that I > use for my mobile phone by running "doveadm expunge" every night. > That worked fine in Buster, but now it fails: >> jdmobile@nuser:~$ doveadm expunge 

Re: Playing Card Symbols

2023-03-28 Thread Siard
Charles Curley: > Siard: > > > To type ♠ , for example: > > > > - hold Ctrl+Shift > > - type U2660 > > - release Ctrl+Shift > > Nice to know about, but it requires knowing the UTF code for the > characters you want. That's a bit like trying to navigate the Internet > with IP addresses instead

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Jesper Dybdal wrote: On 2023-03-27 10:59, davidson wrote: It baffles me that the number of packages suggested for autoremoval is different, between guile-2.2-libs and w3m. Me too. The two packages depend on different collections of supporting packages. And so, depending

Re: Bookworm system randomly not responding (was Re: Bookworm system not responding on high memory usage)

2023-03-28 Thread Xiyue Deng
Xiyue Deng writes: > So after some more tries it looks like this issue is not directly memory > usage related. I've tried the following: > > * Using older kernel version when I was on Bullseye. > * Have a cronjob to drop memory caches every minutes. > * Using Gnome on Wayland by default or

Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

2023-03-28 Thread davidson
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 08:52:10AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: 3) apt uses a horrible yellow color that is nigh-unreadable on a white background. (This is not configurable.) I use exclusively apt-hyphenated commands