On 1/12/2015 8:05 AM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
While it is possible to enforce certain password policies (e.g. must use
capital letters, numbers, symbols etc) these
do not necessarily dictate a secure password. I guess if I know you
phone number, if it is stored in my phone I have
it as
On 1/12/2015 10:10 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 09:19:58AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/12/2015 8:05 AM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
Nope - I am pretty sure it is something I am, within the context of the
above statement.
A fingerprint is something you HAVE
On 1/12/2015 11:36 AM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
Forwarding to the list as I seemed to have managed to leave it off.
Apologies.
Knowledge is easier to duplicate than a physical item. You mentioned the
ATM attack.
Incorrect. Knowledge cannot be duplicated if there is no basis for that
On 1/10/2015 6:39 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 PM, scott redhowlingwol...@gmx.com wrote:
On 01/09/2015 09:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de
wrote:
Am Freitag, 9
On 1/10/2015 12:24 AM, scott wrote:
On 01/10/2015 12:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/9/2015 10:24 PM, scott wrote:
On 01/09/2015 09:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de
wrote:
Am Freitag, 9
On 1/10/2015 2:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
People like Snowden?? :) Ric
Snowden had direct access to the files. No hacking required.
Jerry
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On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de
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Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian:
On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry
On 1/9/2015 10:24 PM, scott wrote:
On 01/09/2015 09:19 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/9/2015 8:49 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de
wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian:
On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100
On 1/8/2015 3:02 PM, Brian wrote:
If you have resorted to using iptables you have lost it. A standard
Debian install doesn't need it.
I disagree. iptables is a great tool for blocking unwanted connections.
What do you have against it?
Jerry
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On 1/9/2015 4:25 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian:
On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
Just ensure you're using good security practices - don't allow root
On 1/9/2015 11:29 AM, Danny wrote:
If you want to inspect further, I would suggest you look at each of the
jobs being run. See if they are what you expect them to be. Also check
your /etc/crontab and /etc/anacrontab to see what is in them.
I would love to investigate further but I am
On 1/9/2015 11:19 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Sex, 09 Jan 2015, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
SSH passwords are very safe, if they are long enough. For instance, if
you have a 10 character password, mixed case and numbers (no special
characters), a brute force attack of 100 attempts per second
On 1/9/2015 4:37 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote:
On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 10:49:49AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
snip...
SSH passwords are very safe, if they are long enough. For instance, if
you have a 10 character password, mixed case and numbers (no special
characters
On 1/8/2015 3:53 PM, Danny wrote:
Hi guys,
My apologies for replying a little late ...
It was an absolute struggle getting things to work just so that I can give
more
information about the intrusion. I narrowed it down to cron ... What would
happen is this ... After a boot the network
On 1/6/2015 7:27 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
On 06/01/15 13:12, Brian wrote:
On Tue 06 Jan 2015 at 12:11:48 +0100, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
usually when the distribution changes, I update my system rather than
reinstall everything. But for the transition from wheezy to jessie,
I would like to
On 1/6/2015 2:53 PM, Danny wrote:
A stab in the dark, but is it possible this machine has services exposed to
the internet, and you'd not applied fixes against the recent shellshock bug?
Jip ... ssh, apache, postfix, popa3d ... come to think of it ... all the candy
is available ... lol ...
On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote:
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
outside of work. Believer
On 12/31/2014 1:24 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire
people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them.
That's a great idea. Who's going to pay
On 12/31/2014 1:10 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I
want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients
are changing distributions. Period.
I think the point
On 12/31/2014 1:34 PM, Mike McGinn wrote:
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote:
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle
On 12/31/2014 3:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/31/2014 02:32 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Really, your expectations are unrealistic, especially since you don't
know my clients, their business, their employees' qualifications and a
whole lot of other things about them.
But, they will pay
On 12/30/2014 5:37 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 29 dec 14, 22:06:55, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
No, from what I've seen, the default is to do preventative fscks,
depending on the number of boots (and time? I'm not sure).
Could you please show us where you've seen this? For the record, again
On 12/30/2014 9:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros now.
They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It will
probably take two years for them to get another distro ready
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
interested) in spending their life working on Linux.
If Debian
On 12/30/2014 10:07 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
interested) in spending
On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20 Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:02:52 -0500
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote
On 12/29/2014 1:31 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 06:44 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
This is a Debian User list. Why don't you want bugs which affect Debian
users discussed here? And that's what I have seen here - at least until
you started complaining about the thread.
I don't think
On 12/29/2014 1:27 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 06:44 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20 Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:02:52
On 12/29/2014 9:33 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:27 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 06:44 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20
On 12/29/2014 9:33 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:27 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 06:44 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20
On 12/29/2014 10:05 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 08:51 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:27 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/29/2014 06:44 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz
On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20 Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:02:52 -0500
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I often give
On 12/27/2014 7:20 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:02:52 -0500
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I often give presentations with my notebook. If I'm lucky, I get 10-15
On 12/26/2014 1:51 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 09:19:49PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/25/2014 11:23 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:18:11AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/25/2014 8:54 AM, Andre N Batista wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:18:36AM
On 12/26/2014 12:48 PM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:42:21 -0500
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com wrote:
It's possible to corrupt ANY program if you replace a .dll or .so with
your own code.
Indeed. But the program which can be tricked to use your own library
instead
On 12/25/2014 8:54 AM, Andre N Batista wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:18:36AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/24/2014 2:01 AM, Danny wrote:
Hi Bob,
You were right, SFTP, FileZilla and Proftp confused the hell out of me ...
lol
... I must add in my defense though that I was in a state
On 12/25/2014 11:23 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:18:11AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/25/2014 8:54 AM, Andre N Batista wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:18:36AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/24/2014 2:01 AM, Danny wrote:
Hi Bob,
You were right, SFTP, FileZilla
On 12/24/2014 2:01 AM, Danny wrote:
Hi Bob,
You were right, SFTP, FileZilla and Proftp confused the hell out of me ... lol
... I must add in my defense though that I was in a state of panic after
syslog
warned me of an attack by someone during the night via ssh ... So I
frantically tried
On 12/24/2014 2:48 PM, Danny wrote:
Hi Guys,
As a matter of interest, after I installed fail2ban I got this on ssh:
###
Hi,
The IP 122.225.109.103 has just been banned by Fail2Ban after
3
On 12/12/2014 6:02 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
Jerry Stuckle writes:
This means fsck will never run because I don't use
the laptop outside of those times.
Plan to use it outside of these times as a maintenance call. Or check
the discussion for a nice suggestion to make the fsck
On 12/12/2014 12:07 PM, Brian wrote:
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 09:36:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/12/2014 6:02 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
Jerry Stuckle writes:
This means fsck will never run because I don't use
the laptop outside of those times.
Plan to use it outside
On 12/12/2014 2:34 PM, Brian wrote:
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 13:54:39 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/12/2014 12:07 PM, Brian wrote:
The ^C method only postpones the fsck to another time. The issue of when
to run one remains.
Which is fine. I can run it during the day when I'm not under
On 12/12/2014 6:47 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 22:04:56 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 20141211_1332+, Brian wrote:
Multiply your experience by 10,000 or 100,000 similar accounts and a
picture begins to emerge and you can decide on how much confidence you
can place in a
On 12/11/2014 5:53 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
Hi,
fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time.
What if I do not have that time,
Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if
required).
Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work just
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
If Windows can give you the option as to when to perform a potentially
critical (do not shut down!) and long running process, why can't Linux?
As far as having the option of an fsck at boot
On 12/8/2014 6:25 AM, Alex wrote:
Thank you all for some useful and interesting (strange??) replies.
There is no decrease in stolen bandwidth - still approx 5 - 6Mbyte/10min
using Reko's settings:-
browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled = false
browser.safebrowsing.enabled = false
On 12/8/2014 9:42 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Christian Groessler wrote:
Why don't the systemd proponents understand that someone might want to
interrupt a running fsck? Don't scrutinize the reasons, just accept
the fact.
Handwaving issues away is intolerable
On 12/7/2014 6:03 AM, Alex wrote:
Warm greetings to all the wonderful maintainers,
I am sorry to report that, with the latest Iceweasel (31.3.0) update
came something I did NOT want:-
This version is constantly loading two google cookies - google.com
google.com.au (country
On 12/3/2014 9:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
On 12/03/2014 at 07:43 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 05:15:36PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Chris Bannister wrote:
Nothing is final yet, jessie is still a moving target IOW not
yet stable, so not just
On 11/23/2014 11:25 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/23/2014 09:20 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
That is the huge majority of Debian users.
Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't
work
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of
dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or
possibly another distro. But Debian will lose users.
1. At best that's pure speculation. With all due
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of
dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or
possibly another distro. But Debian
On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote:
On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
And exactly what is the Debian way to add custom (NOT customized
pre-packaged) software to the system?
As far as I can tell, the obvious things that go into the Debian way
for installing custom software
On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a
lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another
fork, or possibly another
On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will
lose a lot of dedicated users
On 11/24/2014 11:01 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 02:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote:
On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
And exactly what is the Debian way to add custom (NOT customized
pre-packaged) software to the system?
As far as I can tell
On 11/24/2014 12:22 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 03:13, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will
lose a lot
On 11/24/2014 12:37 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 03:26, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: snip
On 11/24/2014 1:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snip
Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a
lot of
dedicated users due to this decision
On 11/24/2014 1:08 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: snip
Yes, and while
On 11/24/2014 1:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/24/2014 08:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
And while Wheezy will still be supported for a couple of years, it's not
necessarily the answer. While many people don't want the latest and
greatest, they also don't want the oldest and baddest.
Sounds
On 11/23/2014 11:43 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Andrew McGlashan writes:
You will never see the full picture of the problem if you only listen to
what is allowed to be received via the debian-user list...
What makes you think debian-user is my only source of information?
...and you are deluded
On 11/23/2014 1:15 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:17:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who
don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users.
I agree that they are the majority.
Some will get
On 11/23/2014 1:27 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote:
'installing systemd, then removing
and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be
considered the *equivalent*
of
On 11/23/2014 2:20 PM, seeker5528 wrote:
On 11/23/2014 9:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people
who don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian
users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things
don't
On 11/23/2014 5:29 PM, seeker5528 wrote:
On 11/23/2014 1:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
We're not talking non-technical people here. We are talking companies
with ITcd departments managing multiple servers and desktops. We are
talking small companies who contract their IT services. We
On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
That is the huge majority of Debian users.
Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as
expected.
Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was announced. I have
yet
On 11/16/2014 6:40 AM, Klistvud wrote:
Dne, 21. 10. 2014 04:06:23 je Marty napisal(a):
On 10/20/2014 03:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd,
I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't be sysvinit.
Why not? I do not
On 11/16/2014 12:33 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
In general, debian-user is not the right venue for complaints about
Debian decisions; the continuation of the debian-user hijack by these
discussions is a disgrace to this list; please stop. Seriously.
OdyX
Your continued rants
On 11/16/2014 10:29 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Hi,
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes:
The problem here is lack of time and/or skills. I would love to help,
but I already have my plate full. Additionally, I've done device
drivers and applications, but never dealt with init
On 11/10/2014 3:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 11/7/2014 2:40 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 22:11:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
sniped
I thought he took special care to not make any assumptions about
On 11/7/2014 2:40 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 22:11:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Unfortunately, from the tone of the message I can almost guess whet the
result of the GR will be. I hope I'm wrong - but if I'm not, it's going
to create a rift in debian users, and could well result
On 11/6/2014 4:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:58:29 +
From: Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org
To: debian-proj...@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Time for compassion and
On 11/5/2014 2:37 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le mardi, 4 novembre 2014, 21.13:36 Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Yes, but you seem to want to stifle any discussion of a possible fork.
Discussions about possible forks are off-topic on debian-user, please
re-read the list topic:
From https
On 11/4/2014 4:41 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:08:50 +0100,
Peter Nieman gmane-a...@t-online.de a écrit :
On 04/11/14 19:04, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Using the threat of forking to make people change their mind
I didn't threaten anybody.
do not send 100 mails to
On 11/4/2014 6:08 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:26:40 -0500,
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net a écrit :
Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:57:20 -0500,
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net a écrit :
On 11/4/2014 4:41 PM, Laurent Bigonville
On 11/3/2014 8:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
snip
I suppose it may be polemic to assert that forking debian and setting up
a new community would be labor-intensive, fractious, divisive, and
general not a wise use of precious free/libre/open community resources,
in short, dumb.
But just the fact
On 10/30/2014 3:16 AM, Johann Spies wrote:
This is not Debian specific, but as I experienced it on Debian and
initially thought that it might be a Debian problem, it may help some
other users.
I recently bought the scanner specified in the subject line after
reading that the saned team
On 10/20/2014 6:48 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
If this Debian Fork doesn't make use of:
systemd
dbus
pam
gnome
And uses EFL + E19, then, I'm in!
I'm sure that there is room for a new distro, that will sit in the
middle of Debian 7 and Slackware... ;-)
Cheers!
I have no problem
On 10/16/2014 9:25 PM, lee wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
On 10/12/2014 10:24 PM, lee wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records. Anti-spam routines
Who prevents a MUA from having an MX record and sending
On 10/18/2014 4:41 PM, Joe wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:15:16 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
You obviously don't understand. MX records identify MTAs - that is,
machines which can receive email. MUAs cannot do that.
To identify an MUA with an MX record would
On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 10/14/2014 8:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
If you think I'm kidding, please
On 10/15/2014 10:17 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
On 10/14/2014 at 03:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net
wrote:
Wrong on two counts. First of all, the false notion Security
through obscurity *never
On 10/15/2014 12:34 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
On 10/15/2014 at 12:06 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net
wrote:
But you just said it was OK to delete emails.
Please don't misquote me. I said
On 10/15/2014 12:40 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/15/2014 12:06 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
But you just said it was OK to delete emails.
Please don't misquote me. I
On 10/15/2014 4:44 PM, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:15:24 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
It is either OK to delete an email or it is not. You can't have it
both ways.
It is *not* OK to silently delete an already accepted email, it does
indeed break SMTP
On 10/14/2014 8:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/13/2014 9:53 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Not a grey area at all. ...dropping mail without notification of the
sender is permitted As for the ...long tradition and community
expectations... - that's nice, but according
On 10/14/2014 11:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 10:52 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:48:38AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
Rejecting will actually *reduce* traffic, because it doesn't accept the
entire messages, it slams the door at the RCPT-TO stage.
On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 10/14/2014 8:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
If you think I'm kidding, please by all means go make these silly
statements on the postfix list and I'll just sit and watch the fun.
You
On 10/14/2014 6:50 PM, lee wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
On 10/13/2014 7:57 PM, lee wrote:
Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk writes:
On 12/10/14 23:04, lee wrote:
Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes:
Because for a GR, a member of Debian has to request it and it needs
On 10/13/2014 2:32 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 09:05:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records.
Not necessarily. In the absence of an MX record an A record is perfectly
legitimate.
Legitimate MTAs have MX records. While
On 10/13/2014 5:43 AM, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:32:40 +0100
Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 09:05:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records.
Not necessarily. In the absence of an MX record an A record
On 10/13/2014 8:18 AM, Erwan David wrote:
Le 13/10/2014 14:14, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/13/2014 2:32 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 09:05:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records.
Not necessarily. In the absence of an MX
On 10/13/2014 5:25 AM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 04:06:27 +0200, lee wrote:
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:
lee l...@yagibdah.de writes:
[...]
Thanks for the tips.
SMTP EHLO 2xd
That's an invalid helo string.
Is a valid one made up of just the full fqdn?
See
On 10/13/2014 8:55 AM, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:19:37 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 10/13/2014 5:43 AM, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:32:40 +0100
Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 09:05:14PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote
On 10/13/2014 9:49 AM, Mark Carroll wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
On 10/13/2014 8:18 AM, Erwan David wrote:
(snip)
That's an error and completely idiot : big service provider use
different MTAs for inbound (with MX records pointing to them) and
outbound email.
Which
On 10/13/2014 10:36 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 08:28:32AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Which ones? Specific names, please.
Newcastle University, UK, at least when I worked in that section
last (a few years ago), for one.
And they still have their servers
On 10/13/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote:
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes:
The mail is accepted. What the recipient does with the mail after that
is outside the scope of an RFC. There is no obligation on the recipient
to inform the sender that he has ripped up the mail and junked it.
When the
On 10/13/2014 7:18 PM, lee wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
And, in fact, more and more ISPs are just accepting and discarding
emails to non-existent users because rejecting such email helps spammers
(any non-rejected email must be a valid user).
That's totally retarded
Apologies if this comes through twice - it doesn't look like the first
one made it (and I got no bounce message :) ).
On 10/13/2014 8:40 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/13/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote:
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes:
The mail is accepted. What
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