Re: Documentation and Useability - a proposed solution

2004-01-19 Thread Mac McCaskie
can walk the halls of Debian-Land. Mac ... McCaskie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bootable CD Rom problem?

2004-01-18 Thread Mac McCaskie
I've been trying to re-install deb stable from a CD (3.0r2 and 3.0r1 images were downloaded and burned to disk), the old system got hosed somehow. The CD is not bootable on the old IBM box (but is on another system). Problem might be two-fold. 1- I am able to get an older CD (the

Re: Recommended ISP's

2004-01-18 Thread Mac McCaskie
I've had very good luck with Road Runner cable. I used to have SBC DSL but after they kept dialing down my speed (I'm at the edge of the service radius) and the 2nd modem burned up I went with RR. They did have problems (DNS server issue, they said) this fall locally, but they eventually got

Re: Bootable CD Rom problem?

2004-01-18 Thread Mac McCaskie
Thanks, I had a feeling it was something like that. I've decided to go ahead and 'upgrade' the old IBM for a Joe's Garage blue plate special. -mac with screwdriver in hand mccaskie Kent West wrote: Mac McCaskie wrote: I've been trying to re-install deb stable from a CD (3.0r2 and 3.0r1

Re: Documentation and Useability

2004-01-18 Thread Mac McCaskie
But why should they be deprived of the opportunity to use it simply because others can't figure out how to? Sure, it's tough on those who can't figure it out, but that's no reason to make life hard for those who can. This agruement contradicts itself. On the one hand it is stated plainly about

Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
I will have to ditto Monique's frustration. I am a debian noobie. However, I started working with IBM PC's in '83 and later graduated to XT's on the job. The first windows I installed was 2.0 (a runtime version for a tape backup program). Over the years I've seen Novell perfect it's

DNS Question (maybe?)

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Hey Folks, What do I need to do to get a new site to show up in DNS? This is the scenario: I've just connected a pc via satalite to the net, now I want it to show up as a sub-part (is that the right term?) on our domain. ie our domain is foo.net and we want it to show up as 104.foo.net we

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Colin Watson wrote: It wasn't Monique. oops, so sue me rigid and spout rubbish about secret incantations. . . patronizing nonsense. rigid? not hardly, I am asking everyone to be less rigid on what the noobies must to do. It should not be asked of them to bow down and scrape in order to

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
executable supplied help. -Found man pages with circular help i.e. foo is foo-like because it is derived from foo's parent -Discovered the best support organization is impatient with frustrated noobies. Mac your turn McCaskie Stephen wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:23:37AM -0600 or thereabouts, Mac

Re: DNS Question (maybe?)

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
17, 2004 at 09:23:12AM -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: Hey Folks, What do I need to do to get a new site to show up in DNS? This is the scenario: I've just connected a pc via satalite to the net, now I want it to show up as a sub-part (is that the right term?) on our domain. ie our domain

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
West wrote: Mac McCaskie wrote: -Found packages with no available documentation This is a peeve of mine. I was under the impression that nothing got into the archives without a man page, even if the man page said nothing more than sorry, there's no information here. Perhaps that rule only

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Monique Y. Herman wrote: Do you really consider basic etiquette to be a debian-specific bow down and scrape requirement? I consider basic etiquette to be very benificial when asking for advice AND when giving it. It is my hope that this conversation (aka debate) will accomplish a few small

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-01-17, Mac McCaskie penned: I think my point would be closer to not allowing a package on-board without adaqate instruction on what it was and how to use it. Where is the value of providing a widget to a customer without giving them a clue as to what the widget

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Paul Morgan wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: So you would wish, for instance, to deprive me of a package which I can understand and use simply because the documentation is not adequate enough for you, or for somebody non-me, anyway? Yes, because otherwise a value

Re: Documentation and Usability was Re: EXT3 at install..no more?

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
ROFLOL, Richard Lyons wrote: But this has been a bad week for tempers here. Quite a few rants and upsets. Has anyone else wondered if it's seasonal? Subject for a little paper, perhaps? SUBTLE - Seasonal Usenet Bad Temper Loss Episodes... Climatic Recurring Influences on the Internet

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Mac McCaskie
Micha Feigin wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 05:02:59PM -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: -The third part puzzles me. How would you know how to use it without some type of instructions. google et al, home page, man, info, program -h/--help, source code (hopefully commented), trial and error, mailing

Re: diagnosing system crash (hardware failure?)

2004-01-16 Thread Mac McCaskie
sounds very much like static electricity to me. are you getting shocks when you touch doorknobs? if you have a joe's garage pc then it may not be handling static very well. You can build up plently of static (enough anyway) while rolling around in your chair. another item might be voltage

Re: I can't access some site with Mozilla

2004-01-14 Thread Mac McCaskie
I have the same setup, win xp with Mozilla, but could get to both of these sites. Do you block cookies or have any other privacy settings active? I notice the first one did a fast re-direct. Christopher L. Everett wrote: OK, I git this problem only once in a while. Otherwise useful site

Re: disgo

2004-01-12 Thread Mac McCaskie
nope, but disgo with vodka just fine (ha, ha disgo = this go) sorry, couldn't resist. mmm Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 03:40:43PM +, Richard Lyons wrote: Anyone here know if disgo go with Linux? (it's a usb memory stick in a fancy wrapper, for those who haven't

Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?

2004-01-12 Thread Mac McCaskie
Update, I went the apt-get routine and everybody is much happier. Thanks to all who lended there hands. -mac happy webmin user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apt-get testing HELP please

2004-01-12 Thread Mac McCaskie
Would this routine also downgrade from unstable to testing? thanks user list wrote: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free and you must issue: apt-get update -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?

2004-01-11 Thread Mac McCaskie
Hey folks, I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web server up and running. I ran into what I thought sounded like a dream come true, WebMin. So I installed it via dselect with some packages I thought I'd need. However now I cannot get it to run. After doing some

Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?

2004-01-11 Thread Mac McCaskie
a whole lot and was indecipherable about how to set up. Design by committe. Mac no attitude here McCaskie Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Mac McCaskie wrote: Hey folks, I'm fairly new to debian and have been playing around getting a web server up and running. I ran into what I