Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Filipak
Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages with some list members I advocated for focus

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/4 3:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 19:56:43 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote: Your success was not a result of running the text-based Debian Installer. Forget about it. Try a bit of lateral, or even vertical, thinking. You may not realise

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 2:07 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: I've thrown the thread away, Oh no... -big snip- Ohmygod! João Luis, of course I'll reproduce it. That should be easy. After all, I've put 2 overtime days into it at this point. Kindly stand by. Right now I'm

Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
My objective: Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet. My problem: All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet. But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the Internet until I've installed the driver (not

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 2:28 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 19:56:43 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: The reason I switched the target from an 8-GB USB flash drive to a USB hard drive is that someone said I couldn't install

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 3:33 PM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Mar 2013 at 12:29:44 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/3 6:25 AM, Brian wrote: Ok. You are using USB flash/USB flash drive/USB hard disc/USB drive interchangeably to refer to the same device? Its good to have that clarified. [Snip] Prior

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 4:20 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: -snip- BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing happened. There are packages which

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote: -big snip- Why do you think you need a special driver? Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you have wlan0 device or not in the list. mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ /sbin/ifconfig -a eth0

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote: You need the firmware-iwlwifi package. # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi will tell you if the package is installed. It probably wont be on the install disk as it is the nonfree repository. You may have to adjust /etc/apt/sources.list depending on how you answered the

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote: You need the firmware-iwlwifi package. # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi You mean this one: firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb // Debian - WiFi Drivers It's on my list. Do I really install it with this: dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi or this: dpkg -s

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 6:48 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote: You need the firmware-iwlwifi package. # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi You mean this one: firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb // Debian - WiFi Drivers It's on my list. Do I really install it with this: dpkg -s

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
I tried to install wicd. = mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su Password:

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 7:22 PM, Mr G wrote: Good. You found the problem. Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available. So now you need to get you and firmware-iwlwifi.deb in the same directory. = mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote: -snip- $ id -snip- $ sudo updatedb -snip- $ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb -snip- $ pwd Look at the terminal session below = mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su Password: root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver [SOLVED]

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Filipak
Get the WiFi driver. - Go to http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and look for a link related to your WiFi device. My WiFi device is an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and the link is labeled 'ipw3945'. Yours will probably be different. - Taking the device-related link takes you to the Debian Wiki page for

Re: Install failed - USB flash to USB drive [SOLVED]

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 8:56 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Wait a minute Mark Filipak wrote: I successfully installed this: debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso to a USB flash in Windows with this: dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e: dd, in Windows? which version of dd

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation successfully, use the text-based installer. I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
and yet am still getting Cc:s in my inbox from Mark Filipak while the legitimate Debian mail is going to its own folder as it should. Cybe R. Wizard Cybe, I belong to many lists. Some have been other Linux lists and some have been Mozilla lists and some have been Windows lists. This list

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 1:58 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. If this

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 3:03 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:09:51PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Miles, I'm running the Debian installer from a Debian Live USB. I don't try to install GRUB. The Debian installer does it. I don't provide command-line switches. The Debian installer provides

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-02 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 3:36 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 13:24:06 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem

Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). What I did: 1 - Booted Windows. 1.1 - Copied the Debian-Gnome Live ISO to an 8-GB USB. 1.2 - Shut down Windows. 2 - Booted Debian-Gnome from 8-GB USB - success! 2.1 - Shut down Debian-Gnome. 3 - Booted Windows. 3.1 -

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
and courteous. Thank you Shane On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote: Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). What I did: 1 - Booted Windows. 1.1 - Copied the Debian-Gnome Live ISO to an 8-GB USB. 1.2 - Shut down Windows. 2

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 2:25 PM, Shane Johnson wrote: ...I had to get a Utility from HP to convert the thumbdrive. Not needed in this case. The target USB drive did not come with U3. (The 1-GB USB drive did come with U3, but I removed that years ago.) I would recommend if you want to truly try Debian

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 3:16 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably) need to install a different boot loader on a USB stick

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 3:29 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Installation failed To: Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 2

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 4:41 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Mark Filipak wrote: --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Mark Filipak wrote: I'm afraid it's install Linux on a USB thumb drive or nothing. Duh . . . How about installing on an external hard drive? That would be nice, but that would be on USB also

Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 3:55 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 01:39:19PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: 13 - Removed hard disk. 14 - Booted Debian-LXDE on 1-GB USB. 14.1 - Created 2.5-GB /, 0.5-GB swap, and 5.0-GB /windows (FAT-32). 14.2 - Attempted install to the 8-GB USB (newly partitioned). 14.3

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
Hello All, By mistake this thread has been going only to Steven Grunza. I'm reposting to the whole list for help. Regarding installing onto the USB hard drive... I booted from USB thumb drive, then tried to install from that (using its built-in Debian Installer) onto a USB hard drive. That

Re: Installation failed - and failed again...

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 6:58 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 18:44:55 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Regarding installing onto the USB hard drive... I booted from USB thumb drive, then tried to install from that (using its built-in Debian Installer) onto a USB hard drive. That also failed, same

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 7:03 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 3:16 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 8:13 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 19:25:30 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: in fact, I expect that's what's happening to Mark when he tries to install GRUB - the installer is either: a) trying to install on the hdd, which he's disconnected (fail), or,

Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 7:47 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). Do you want help? Then don't write agressive email with sarcastic subject. What I did: [...] What you tried to do requires great Linux skill and knowledge. It

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 8:47 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 8:13 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 19:25:30 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: in fact, I expect that's what's happening to Mark when he tries to install GRUB - the installer is either

Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
If anyone is still there, I do want help. I've spent all day at this. Ground rules: 1 - If you can't help, please don't try. 2 - Please don't assume I haven't read how to install Debian. I have. It's no big deal. 3 - My computer boots from USB - no problem. I'm booting Debian Live from USB.

Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 10:03 PM, green wrote: Shane Johnson wrote at 2013-03-01 20:53 -0600: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote: During the Debian installation (to USB thumb drive or USB hard drive), when it goes to install GRUB, it fails. To help further

Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 10:39 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 10:03 PM, green wrote: Shane Johnson wrote at 2013-03-01 20:53 -0600: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote: During the Debian installation (to USB thumb drive or USB hard drive), when it goes

Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 10:51 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 10:39 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 10:03 PM, green wrote: Shane Johnson wrote at 2013-03-01 20:53 -0600: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote: During the Debian installation (to USB thumb

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 11:05 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with him was that it was all one

Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 11:54 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 02/03/13 17:33, Mark Filipak wrote: I'm back. When the GRUB install failed I pressed Alt+F4. The Debian Installer disappeared and I was immediately back to the LWDE desktop. I tried Alt+F4 there and nothing happened. Linux has the concept

Re: Install failed - USB flash to USB drive [SOLVED]

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
I successfully installed this: debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso to a USB flash in Windows with this: dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e: (where 'e:' is the USB flash's Windows device letter - note that the 'od=' switch is not documented in command-line help.)

Re: [OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/2 12:57 AM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Windows-NT 3.5 was probably the finest OS ever written Let us see who will be the first to bite the troll :) Do you really want to start a debate on best OS ever? Talk

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 11:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:34:04 +, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com mailto:lisi.reisz%40gmail.com wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For everyone who doesn't have their own development department to adapt Linux kernels to their widget, Linux has

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 5:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 26 February 2013 21:35:18 Mark Filipak wrote: An OS that is difficult to install is not a friendly OS. People understand this. I find Debian GNU/Linux significantly easier to install than Windows. What a nonsensical statement. I've never

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 3:34 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm someone who started computing on IBM-360s in the 1970s, who progressed to HP3000-SPL and PDP11s and UNIX and Solaris and MS-DOS and MS-Windows. I played with Xenix, Minix and even

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 3:36 PM, Harvey Kelly wrote: On 27 February 2013 20:24, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: What a nonsensical statement. I've never successfully installed any distribution of Linux You fibber. You installed Squeeze on your amd64 machine according to this thread

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 3:45 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2013 27 Feb 14:25 -0600, Mark Filipak wrote: What a nonsensical statement. I've never successfully installed any distribution of Linux. Not even on an empty hard drive on commodity x86 hardware? I find this admission so absurd that I can't get

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 3:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2013 20:34:26 Go Linux wrote: Well, I am a liberal arts educated 70-something (and female to boot) +1 ;-) without a technical computer background like yours to brag about. I am just a lowly user with a curiosity and

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
Thanks for replying, Nate. On 2013/2/27 4:18 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2013 27 Feb 14:53 -0600, Mark Filipak wrote: The only result of my attempted installations has been cryptic error messages and non-bootable disks. That sounds more like a disk writing failure. I've gotten a few

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 6:31 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 11:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Hasn't even run it, apprently, or at least wrote in an earlier message But I don't run Linux. Now that's it in a nutshell, isn't it. Seems to me that Mark is simply a troll

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/27 6:53 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 6:34 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 5:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 26 February 2013 21:35:18 Mark Filipak wrote: An OS that is difficult to install is not a friendly OS. People

Re: Thinking about using Debian

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/25 8:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: P.S. Please don't top post. Thanks. Funny... I belonged to many lists 15 or 20 years ago. All wanted folks to top post and bitched about bottom-posts. Why? Bottom posts require scrolling to see that latest reply. Oh well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/26 3:53 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: -snip- Unfortunately, this is about as interesting to the average person as the engine manufacturer in their motor vehicle -snip- Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! I'm interested in Linux. It's not Microsoft or Google. It's open source. But I don't run Linux.

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/26 4:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For everyone who doesn't have their own development department to adapt Linux kernels to their widget, Linux has been a toy OS for technoweenies. That hasn't changed in 10 years and Linux has made no headway on the desktop

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/26 5:08 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/26 4:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For everyone who doesn't have their own development department to adapt Linux kernels to their widget, Linux has been a toy OS for technoweenies. That hasn't

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/2/26 5:39 PM, Joe wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:29:06 -0500 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013/2/26 5:08 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: -snip- Your attitude, Miles, is typical and is a large part of the problem. Ummm... what exactly

Re: How to match last part of fullpath in apt-file with a perl reg-exp?

2013-02-25 Thread Mark Filipak
I think 'm[^/]*$' will match (parse) all end-parts that begin with 'm'. I think '.*/m[^/]*$' will match (find) all full-paths that have an end-part that begins with 'm' (or either of: 'm' or 'M' if 'i' flag is used). I addressed parsing, not finding. In javascript, regExp=/.*\/m[^\/]*$/i; would

Re: Thinking about using Debian

2013-02-25 Thread Mark Filipak
Silicon Valley). On 2013/2/24 8:16 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 07:48:10PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Thanks for the encouragement, Hugo, but I'm not real keen on freeware. Open source is great, but free generally means not good and not supported - and a user forum

Re: How to match last part of fullpath in apt-file with a perl reg-exp?

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Filipak
For end of the fullpath, search for '[^\/]*$' For end of the fullpath that begins with 'm', search for 'm[^\/]*$' Caveats: I don't know perl I don't use apt-file I don't use linux. (I lurk the Debian list because I'm considering trying Debian.) My knowledge is javascript. The patterns above

Re: How to match last part of fullpath in apt-file with a perl reg-exp?

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Filipak
. Windows XP - For engineering applications games - no networking at all. Either multiboot, or VMware player with Linux host/WinXP client. Comments? Advice? KISS. Ciao - Mark. On 2013/2/24 6:52 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For end of the fullpath, search for '[^\/]*$' For end

Re: debian squeeze amd64 recent frequent crashes

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Filipak
Be sure to take the RAM out and reseat it by putting it back in. While the RAM is out, You could try hitting the RAM slots with some electronic contact cleaner too. Not color TV tuner cleaner. Electronic contact cleaner. On 2013/2/6 2:50 PM, Jim Green wrote: On 6 February 2013 13:13, Kelly