Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/12/2015 02:19 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

WAS Re: debian 8 NOW game keyboard config

2015-04-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/11/2015 03:05 PM, Reco wrote: dpkg-reconfigure -plow keyboard-configuration ric@iam:~$ sudo su - [sudo] password for ric: root@iam:~# dpkg-reconfigure -plow keyboard-configuration update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults update-rc.d:

Re: debian 8

2015-04-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/11/2015 02:26 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:06:26 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Gene, didja notice this running the command line ric@iam:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [sudo] password for ric: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions

Re: debian 8

2015-04-11 Thread Ric Moore
Gene, didja notice this running the command line ric@iam:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [sudo] password for ric: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported;

Re: No suspend in XFCE without systemd?

2015-04-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/08/2015 01:07 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hello, I've made a Debian Jessie laptop for a customer, who does not want systemd. Because of dependencies with systemd I don't have policykit installed. When I do a pm-suspend as root the laptop comes into suspend state, but in XFCE the options

Re: No suspend in XFCE without systemd?

2015-04-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/09/2015 12:03 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/08/2015 06:37 PM, Gregory Smith wrote: It sounds like your customer isn't a good one if he wants systemd ripped out... Fuck you. AH! Then it wasn't the customer who wanted it ripped out. :) Ric Sorry, to the OP. On re-reading this wasn't

Re: Debian wheezy on Dell 7535

2015-04-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/08/2015 04:10 PM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: Hello everyone..thank you all for your help and sorry for late reply. I want to inform you that the problems that I was having have been solved. *No Sound* I have two sound cards on my laptop: 0 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI HDA Intel

Re: Icedove stopped sending and receiving e-mail

2015-04-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/05/2015 10:46 AM, Gary Dale wrote: Perhaps. I'm leaning at this point to doing a fresh install of Jessie (after saving /etc) to see if I can get it boot using systemd. Same thing I did back 6 months or so ago. Installing fresh fixed everything. I would back up /etc for reference, but

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/03/2015 10:52 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Thursday 02 April 2015 19:20:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 02 April 2015 22:35:29 Gene Heskett wrote: /home is just a directory on / here since the broken installer will not do it any other way.

was firefox-37, where to put now moving home partition

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/03/2015 10:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Is booting with the single option on the kernels command line insufficient for this scenario? Gene, when you first boot, boot into rescue mode and login as root. now /home is nicely idle, after you have installed the 3rd new drive and have

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/04/2015 06:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2015 04:40:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2015 00:34:53 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 18:09:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 03 April 2015 22:39:32 Gene Heskett wrote: Sorry Brian, that is

Re: Xorg -configure fails with created screens does not match number of detected devices

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/03/2015 09:34 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting venkat (venka...@vortexindia.co.in): Tried various options today and finally modified xorg.conf with below settings made my X server start with multiple displays enabled. Section Device Identifier Intel GMA3600 Driver modesetting

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/04/2015 03:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2015 02:41:05 Ric Moore wrote: On 04/03/2015 10:52 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): [...] When he mentioned drives in a hot swap cage, isn't that RAID?? Then didn't the installer made

Re: firefox-37, where to put

2015-04-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/04/2015 03:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: df currently reports: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 944923028 128755476 768168168 15% / udev

Re: Is this an April Fool joke running early ? (Systemd to fork the kernel)

2015-03-30 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/30/2015 12:40 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 31/03/2015 3:18 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 31/03/2015 1:00 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community It's too early for an April fools joke, no matter where you live. Or is it serious ?

Re: Is this an April Fool joke running early ? (Systemd to fork the kernel)

2015-03-30 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/30/2015 08:38 PM, bjf...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know much about systemd; I'm curious as to why people think it's so terrible. Use your google-fu. It's been hashed over to death on this list and frankly any attempt to resurrect yet another discussion is not encouraged, as there is

Re: javascript in iceweasel

2015-03-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/29/2015 12:55 AM, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 09:41:16PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-03-28, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Running Wheezy 7.8 w/ iceweasel 31.5.3. Some sites won't work, telling me I need to install/activate javascript. Not sure how to do this.

Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/22/2015 02:41 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 22 March 2015 06:12:48 Ric Moore wrote: On 03/21/2015 10:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings audio guru's; All sound Except the new mail beep from kmail, vanished with the first reboot after 20 days uptime while dinking around with what

Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/22/2015 12:33 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 22 March 2015 09:12:51 Ric Moore wrote: On 03/22/2015 02:41 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 22 March 2015 06:12:48 Ric Moore wrote: On 03/21/2015 10:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings audio guru's; All sound Except the new mail beep from

Re: sound vanished with a reboot?

2015-03-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/21/2015 10:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings audio guru's; All sound Except the new mail beep from kmail, vanished with the first reboot after 20 days uptime while dinking around with what was sold to me as a new 2Tb Toshiba drive, but which did not turn out to be a sealed box. I do

Re: can't start KDE with 2 monitorsz

2015-03-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/18/2015 11:12 PM, James wrote: This is Jessie. I have 2 monitors and I get this in my /var/log/kdm.log: /usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so: undefined symbol: exaGetPixmapDriverPrivate I CAN start KDE if I unplug the HDMI from the 2nd monitor.

Re: can't start KDE with 2 monitorsz

2015-03-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/19/2015 11:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 19 March 2015 21:38:15 Ric Moore wrote: On 03/19/2015 09:19 PM, James wrote: I want them to fix nouveau. :-) Last I saw it still wasn't accelerated. Still isn't, Ric. Two monitors you might need to set up randr. Rotsa ruck

Re: can't start KDE with 2 monitorsz

2015-03-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/19/2015 09:19 PM, James wrote: I want them to fix nouveau. :-) Last I saw it still wasn't accelerated. Two monitors you might need to set up randr. Good luck waiting on nouveau, which is like waiting on Godot. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two

Re: An odd warning message?

2015-03-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/17/2015 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 16:18:13 Karen Lewellen wrote: I am not using Debian in any form Erm . This is the *Debian* users list!! Even Win users can't resist being around really smart people. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to

Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/15/2015 02:26 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: You could give Proxmox a whirl!! Then install Turnkey Linux containers to it. I'm a perfect idiot and had containers like Wordpress and Owncloud running in no time. Since proxmox is headless, you need a machine on the same localnet to ssh in to

Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/14/2015 06:38 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: Hey all, I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using for anything. At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn, and a pastebin like thing. What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers

Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/14/2015 03:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 14 March 2015 18:47:46 Ric Moore wrote: It's when you hit version 36 that it blows up. In what way? It seems not significantly worse than it was before. What is yet to happen to me? :-( For those of us that use Download Helper

Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/14/2015 12:19 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net wrote: hi, I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current jessie (updated this morning): http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png

Re: Best replacement for iceape?

2015-03-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/13/2015 11:03 AM, Thomas H. George wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 05:11:55AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/03/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/03/2015, Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 03:39:44AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux? Such device is usually used to print big large huge maps. Of course

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/13/2015 07:39 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux? Such device is usually used to

Re: Best replacement for iceape?

2015-03-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/12/2015 11:28 AM, Thomas H. George wrote: Ok, iceape must go. What next? My installed iceape has an extensive list of email addresses some of which include complete snailmail addresses. What email clients can accept/assist transfer of all this information? You could just install

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/11/2015 04:59 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby

Re: old software

2015-03-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/11/2015 05:54 AM, D.E. Bil wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:33:43AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2015 09:09:27 D.E. Bil wrote: Also, installing from unofficial repositories is a bad idea. Especially on a stable system. wheezy-backports an unofficial repository?

Re: Installing Openbox

2015-03-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/11/2015 01:39 AM, Cláudio E. Elicker wrote: There is a very nice Openbox guide in https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/ EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver. Sure you got that right?? Here's a quote from The design of the unix operating system, Maurice J.

Re: Jessie sufficiently stable for general use?

2015-03-10 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/10/2015 04:53 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2015 03:53:29 Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: all I want is the One True Directive(TM) Ubuntu?? ;-) Sorry, Sivaram. But this is Debian. People don't usually use Debian if they want the One True Directive! We all have different

Re: For which package should I submit this bug report related to WebRTC's GetUserMedia?

2015-03-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/06/2015 07:23 AM, guti...@runbox.com wrote: Hi, I want to submit a bug report concerning presumably WebRTC's GetUserMedia. I'm normally able to use my built-in microphone and web camera without problems, including automatically switching between the built-in microphone and any

Re: Jessie sufficiently stable for general use?

2015-03-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/05/2015 12:33 AM, Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the next month or so I will have to do a clean OS installation in two desktops. Jessie is now frozen (Debian's contribution to retarding global warming?); and there are apparently fewer RC bugs at this

Re: My Friends Make Fun of My UI

2015-03-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/05/2015 07:22 AM, Wilko Fokken wrote: What I am mostly missing so far under Xfce, compared to Icewm, is a toolbar placed at the BOTTOM of the screen. Using varifocal glasses, I have to strain my neck badly in order to focus the Xfce toolbar at the TOP of the screen through the LOWER area

32bit grub??

2015-03-04 Thread Ric Moore
Is grub natively 32bit?? It worries me to see the notice that I'm booting 32bit grub when my system is otherwise clean of 32bit. Is there a 64bit version?? I'm sure not seeing one. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance,

Re: My Friends Make Fun of My UI

2015-03-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/04/2015 04:03 PM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: Hi list, I use LXDE on my Jessie laptop. I chose this desktop environment because I don't want a lot of stuff on my system. Everything there is essentially installed by me. I have Iceweasel, Claws-Mail, another GUI program or two, but that's

Re: 32bit grub??

2015-03-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/04/2015 05:28 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Darac Marjal a écrit : grub-pc is 32-bit. grub-efi-* is, however, available in amd64 and ia32 variants. I don't know if the version used depends on your firmware, It does. grub-efi-ia32 won't work with the PC's 64-bit UEFI firmwares. AFAIK, it

Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-03-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/03/2015 07:48 AM, Victor wrote: On 28/02/2015 23:26, Ric Moore wrote: Whew! I had to install all the things-dev and it finally completed successfully. Thanks! Glad that it worked ! So does anyone know of another gui tool which could do at least one of the following: a) cut videos

Re: Digital noise from USB DAC device

2015-03-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/03/2015 01:14 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: I believe this is either a hardware issue or some internal USB driver issue. The OP might want to check dmesg to see if there are any hard drive or other warning message related failures. That could cause stutter and hiss as well. Ric -- My

Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-01 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/01/2015 04:17 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 15:32:38 -0500 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ric, I know version 36 kills download helper. If you use that a l Working here. It could, I suppose, be a different download helper; There's more than one

Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-03-01 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/01/2015 05:42 AM, Felix Natter wrote: Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com writes: hello Liam, On 2015-02-28, Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net wrote: hi, I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current jessie (updated this morning):

Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 03:44 AM, Victor wrote: Hi, I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages. It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just for this. I enabled deb-multi and had

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I

Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
Whew! I had to install all the things-dev and it finally completed successfully. Thanks! -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad.

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager,

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created

Re: In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/01/2015 12:55 AM, Csányi Pál wrote: Hi, I'm compiling a custom kernel for my Debian Wheezy operating system. In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name. The cursor blinking in the field but can't enter any letter. How can I solve this problem?

Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/25/2015 10:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote: On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:58:50 +, Curt wrote: On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't understand him so to say. :-/ I thought that he said that he couldn't print

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/25/2015 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote: Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an Abort installation option (at each screen, although, even, a single instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebooting

Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/24/2015 01:56 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: When it crashed *everything* just froze, the keyboard, the desktop, the monitor, time stood still! I agree with the previous reply from Patrick. Install 64 bit Jessie fresh. I don't have anything 32bit installed to my machine, and don't miss it.

Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/24/2015 11:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Gene, I hesitate to ask, but I must. Have you tried this page? http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html?c=us_otlang=encomple=onredirect=on Hope that helps, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins

Re: Where to report bug? Headphones must be plugged in then out after boots for built-in speakers to have sound.

2015-02-21 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/21/2015 09:46 PM, Bryan Ritter wrote: debian-user@lists.debian.org, I tried report-bug, but it said if I don't know the name of the package to email this email address for assistance, if I don't know the name of package with this bug Headphones* must be plugged in after boot-up before

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/17/2015 01:15 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Andrew Shadura and...@shadura.me wrote: Hi, On 17 February 2015 at 18:20, claude juif claude.j...@gmail.com wrote: Really rude answer. Really bad. I find it really rude to send emails of about 300

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/16/2015 07:47 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote: Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/ It's funny that when Wheezy (not

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-15 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/15/2015 08:54 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: so the short and long of it is: i do not like it when people are not given the freedom to choose... and that includes when, just like when microsoft was so dominant in the 1990s, the choices they are presented are not really a choice

Re: Strange file type from insurance company site, iceweasal spins forever

2015-02-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/14/2015 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a save as grab from an insurance company web site that is supposedly the link to grab a .pdf of a policy of mine that's a couple decades or more old. Looked at in a text editor, it resembles somewhat an .html file, but has an extension of .pt,

Re: Strange file type from insurance company site, iceweasal spins forever

2015-02-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/14/2015 04:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday, February 14, 2015 03:15:49 PM Ric Moore wrote: On 02/14/2015 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a save as grab from an insurance company web site that is supposedly the link to grab a .pdf of a policy of mine that's a couple decades

Re: Strange file type from insurance company site, iceweasal spins forever

2015-02-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/14/2015 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a save as grab from an insurance company web site that is supposedly the link to grab a .pdf of a policy of mine that's a couple decades or more old. You saved it to a file? Googling shows all sorts of things that it could be.

Re: Strange file type from insurance company site, iceweasal spins forever

2015-02-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/14/2015 05:41 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 14 February 2015 21:50:15 Ric Moore wrote: On 02/14/2015 04:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday, February 14, 2015 03:15:49 PM Ric Moore wrote: On 02/14/2015 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a save as grab from an insurance company

Re: about installing Java

2015-02-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/13/2015 07:35 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 01:22:52AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: On 13/02/15 16:54, Jack Chuge wrote: [cut] Alternatively, when you used this line: echo deb ... | tee /etc/apt/...java.list did you put sudo in front of tee as well? Like this: sudo

Re: about installing Java

2015-02-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/13/2015 03:46 AM, Klaus Jantzen wrote: On 02/13/2015 01:54 AM, Jack Chuge wrote: I want to install the latest version of Java on my debian desktop. Is there any quick way like using a terminal command? Though, I think debian is the most stable Linux distro I've ever used so far, on the

Re: javascript:void(0)

2015-02-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/13/2015 09:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday, February 13, 2015 09:01:25 AM Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-02-13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday, February 13, 2015 07:12:37 AM Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-02-13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Greetings; Is there

Re: javascript:void(0)

2015-02-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/13/2015 03:00 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-02-13, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/13/2015 09:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday, February 13, 2015 09:01:25 AM Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-02-13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: [SNIP] Now, the javascript

Re: Can't hibernate/suspend or play video

2015-02-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/11/2015 10:36 PM, JMB wrote: I have 4GB of memory. I don't think it is a memory or storage space issue, as I +have plenty. Plus, memory usage is low while this issue is occurring. I have +taken the advice of some other Debian users and I've changed my kernel to a +Backports version. It

Re: Upgrading, was Re: jessie upgrade sources.list entries?

2015-02-10 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/10/2015 02:42 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: That leads me to ask... I deleted the list and just left that first one because it's my absolute most important one these days. Did you mention... having a LiveDVD handy? Having one here SAVED MY BACKSIDE three or four days ago. That was my

Re: I screwed up gdm3, can't recover

2015-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/09/2015 02:05 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: Try this: Reboot. When you get the black screen, hit CTL-ALT-BKSPC simultaneously. This should shutdown the X-Server and drop you to a terminal. If it doesn't, post back here with the details. This should be a root terminal.

Re: Recommendations for a AMD64 Jessie xfce/kde cd

2015-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/08/2015 09:42 PM, Jape Person wrote: Certainly there will be corner cases where folks get bitten -- especially if they've done a lot of customization of the old init system before doing the upgrade. But I imagine most folks will just hit the buttons and go on about their business. Or

Re: Can't hibernate/suspend or play video

2015-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/09/2015 03:31 PM, JMB wrote: Hi, I've been having a problem over the last couple months or so. Periodically, something will happen and I will not be able to suspend or hibernate my machine, and it's always accompanied with an inability to play video (any attempts to play video - with vlc

Re: Recommendations for a AMD64 Jessie xfce/kde cd

2015-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/09/2015 07:50 AM, Jape Person wrote: That hospital's kitchen makes the best darned omelets. Is it wrong of me to foster a small hope for an overnight stay so I can avail myself of them? (They let me have all I want!) Nice talking with you. All I got was diced chicken gruel and a hard

Re: [OT?]Squeeze: update Flashplugin? now update java

2015-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/09/2015 11:00 AM, Hans wrote: When you want to update java, then download jave, and do as above mentioned. This will create a java package, which you then can install by using dpkg -i oracle-whatever*.deb. That is just half the battle to install Oracle Java. There are all of the

Re: I screwed up gdm3, can't recover

2015-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/07/2015 09:31 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: So now when people say gdm3 doesn't start I wonder if it really means that X isn't starting? Maybe. Bob, I just had that happen to me. It failed to start lightdm. so in text mode, as logged in root user, I re-installed lightdm : apt-get install

Re: Recommendations for a AMD64 Jessie xfce/kde cd

2015-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/08/2015 08:45 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: If somehow Jessie installer doesn't work for you, you can install Wheezy and the upgrade OS to Jessie. If Jessie won't install, doesn't work for you use Ubuntu or Mint. Going from Wheezy to Jessie is like upgrading Ubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu

Re: FLAC playback in Iceweasel

2015-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/08/2015 04:47 AM, August Karlstrom wrote: On 2015-02-08 07:30, Bob Proulx wrote: August Karlstrom wrote: Does anyone know if there is a package in Debian Wheezy that provides playback of FLAC files in Iceweasel? On the page http://hpr.dogphilosophy.net/test/ all clips work for me except

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/04/2015 04:03 AM, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: On Wed, Feb 04 2015,Ric Moore wrote: On 02/04/2015 02:13 AM, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: How does one go about fixing broken packages? I've recently started using debian and apart some fiddling to get the latest emacs24.4 on wheezy I have

Re: WD Reds get dropped on boot

2015-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/08/2015 10:02 AM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Some guys at the WD forum suggested this could be a BIOS issue, which kinda sucks as i'm not in the mood to get a new mobo. I was under the impression linux doesn't really need the BIOS to operate, but i'm not versed in the art of bootloading. Can

Re: Debian CPU heating up no apparent cpu activity

2015-02-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/06/2015 12:50 PM, Burhan Hanoglu wrote: I'd expect that even though PIO is a cpu intensive IO, system should not stay that heated when it is idle IO wise. I'd try the same using a usb stick to observe the result and compare... Or, examine the cpu cooler and remove all of the cruft. I

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/06/2015 01:01 PM, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: On Fri, Feb 06 2015,Lisi Reisz wrote: [snipped 7 lines] Unfortunately, it looks as though you may have to but had you thought of Jessie? The missus is asking who's Jessie and why are you thinking of her? ;) Sure, I'd upgrade to

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/05/2015 04:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: libcurl4-openssl-dev : Depends: libcurl3 (= 7.26.0-1+wheezy11) but 7.26.0-1+wheezy12 is to be installed The libcurl4-openssl-dev which depends on libcurl3 (= 7.26.0-1+wheezy11) is version 7.26.0-1+wheezy11.

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/04/2015 06:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 07:35:29 Ric Moore wrote: As root user, apt-get install synaptic Let it install your programs for you. It's a great GUI package tool, that most use. And you have got your statistics from?? I would seriously query

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/04/2015 04:35 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Welcome to Debian! But as with anything if you open the hood of your car, remove the fuel injection system, partially replace it with another, then your fuel economy may suffer. :-) The standing rule is that if you break it, you get to keep both

Re: ifupdown is not installed by preseed, while iproute2 is installed

2015-02-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/03/2015 06:16 PM, Darren Baginski wrote: Looks like iproute2 was installed which a) conflicts with ifupdown for some reason (why ? I guess it functionally can replace older iproute ) b) can't initiate interfaces alone (perhaps jessie is using newer network initialization method of which

Re: unmet dependencies: libcurl4-openssl-dev

2015-02-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/04/2015 02:13 AM, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: How does one go about fixing broken packages? I've recently started using debian and apart some fiddling to get the latest emacs24.4 on wheezy I have not done anything on the system. When I tried to install libcurl4, I get the following

Re: Systemsd's image

2015-02-02 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/02/2015 10:41 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: It cannot do anything good for the general public's perception of systemd when Lennart Poettering himself confirms my instinctive feeling that systemd is comparable in its aims to Borg of sinister reputation...

Re: Sound in Jessie

2015-02-01 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/01/2015 11:59 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1324951page=2p=10741579#post10741579 The fix the user there suggested for the exact same error message was: usermod -aG audio [user] This thread is familiar. If you all already addressed that as a

Re: list non auto packages

2015-01-31 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/01/2015 12:09 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Doug wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Rusi Mody wrote: Is there a way to get the packages the user has installed? Try: apt-mark showmanual That will show any package that was explicitly installed. That is, not pulled in automatically as a dependency.

Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/29/2015 02:08 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/29/2015 10:46 AM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc. Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you

Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail

2015-01-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can

Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/19/2015 05:46 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2015 21:41:38, Ric Moore wrote : On 01/17/2015 07:29 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody

Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/20/2015 02:07 PM, Robert Latest wrote: I don't understand the first thing about this. I just copied this file from somewhere. Note the hw:0,2 part. Remember that I had to use -D hw:0,0 with aplay to make sound work while pulseaudio was installed? Now hw:0,2 is the way to go. Search me

Re: Ric Moore

2015-01-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/16/2015 09:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: So now I am back on the old LUCID based install. Where hopefully I can send an email. With kmail. Lucid is more Jessie level than wheezy level. I use wheezy on the servers, for damn sure. But I run Jessie on my desktop for the Lucid level

Re: Ric Moore

2015-01-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/17/2015 01:04 PM, Clive Standbridge wrote: I assume it has a name, is this 7.8=Jessie? Its name is wheezy. It's an update, not a new release. See: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/ https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2015/msg0.html Jessie is 8.X It's ready for primetime

Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/17/2015 07:29 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody else facing the same problem. All you had to do was to mute the HDMI stuff to make it easier on alsa.

Re: An experiment in backup

2015-01-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/17/2015 01:38 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Curt cu...@free.fr mailto:cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-01-17, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com mailto:kogor...@gmail.com wrote: startx I did sudo startx I haven't been

Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/16/2015 03:41 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters. Frederic Once you start with the edits, pulse most likely will not work since you defeated it's purpose to define things after alsa is doing it's job. I remember the bad old days when you

Fwd: Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore
I hit the wrong send to: button. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Can't get sound to work Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:29:50 -0500 From: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com To: Robert Latest boblat...@gmail.com On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23

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