Re: cdebootstrap error: can't install system

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:46:26PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 06/08/2008 07:32 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 05:53:05PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: [...] priority-important -libtasn1-2-bin -libtasn1-3-bin -end--- I don't know

Re: Java webstart in amd64

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:37:35PM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: Good Morning Try this link http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk If you look over on the right there are links for Sun Java 6. I am currently using the the backport of java 6 on etch without trouble. I would

Re: Java webstart in amd64

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:23:58AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:37:35PM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: Good Morning Try this link http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk If you look over on the right there are links for Sun Java 6. I am

Re: Getting network settings to stick

2008-06-09 Thread Kent West
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Re: Getting network settings to stick

2008-06-09 Thread Kent West
network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 dns-search williams_home_network.lan -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http

Re: cdebootstrap error: can't install system

2008-06-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 02:08:36PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: I'm trying to create a Sid chroot system, and cdebootstrap downloads many things, but it displays an error message at the end. First I see this message: I: Can't find package libtasn1-2-bin for exclusion looks like libtasn1-2 went

Re: cdebootstrap error: can't install system

2008-06-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 05:53:05PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 06/08/2008 02:51 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 02:08:36PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: I'm trying to create a Sid chroot system, and cdebootstrap downloads many things, but it displays an error message

Re: apt-get install imagemagick also installs libqt4-*

2008-06-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 10:17:45PM +0530, mwnn wrote: Hi, I am using Debian lenny. When installing imagemagick, the apt-get package management utility seems to be installing libqt4-* stuff (which I think is unnecessary).

Re: Cross-platform debootstrap/bootlaoder woes

2008-06-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:55:11PM +0200, André Berger wrote: I would like to install Lenny i386 onto an external USB HDD, for use with a T-Online S100, from a PPC Etch box. The problems are: I can't compile grub on the PPC box; and I can't chroot to the i386 system. While I can edit

Re: Java webstart in amd64

2008-06-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 08:11:41PM +0200, Peter Robinson wrote: Dear all, although I have seen some pages with advice on how to get java working in amd64 / testing, I am still a bit confused. Is the best way to go a chroot environment? In particular, I have not had great experiences with

Re: mkdir no longer works

2008-06-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:27:19PM -0700, Steve Mazurek wrote: I can no longer create directories with mkdir, neither as root from the command line nor from within the terminals in the xwindow graphics system. (I am using etchnhalf, linux image 2.6.22-4-686 on a Thinkpad T42) In either case,

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Problems with Gnome appearance.

2008-06-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:25:35AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:17:54 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andrew, What keyserver are you using Brad? I typically use mit, but the lag hkp://subkeys.pgp.net days because it takes too long. I

Re: IP forwarding drops out.

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 11:11:55AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have my network front end running Debian sarge (yet, it's time to upgrade at lest to etch). It's connected to the rest of the net by a DSL line. I've set up port-forwarding to selected machines on my LAN for the

Re: sun-java

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 05:18:23PM -0700, Raquel wrote: I have an upcoming need to use a web site that has java applets. I've installed sun-java5-bin, sun-java5-jre, sun-java5-plugin, sun-java5-fonts. Will that pretty much do what I'll probably need? on the assumption that you are using

Re: [Debian-User] Has anyone used crosshurd to install debian/gnu Linux?

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:17:10AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Javier Vasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:08:44PM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: I'm thinking on

Re: X affecting console text color?? [solved]

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:03:44AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: ... However, forbid-version is much more convenient (especially if you use aptitude in interactive mode): If I see a scheduled upgrade that I don't like then all I have to do is move the cursor to it, press F, and I can forget

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Problems with Gnome appearance.

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:56:00PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:12:14 -0400 Frank McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Frank, Typical is right - half the signed messages I get can't be verified. For me, that's a rare occurrence. Hence my calling attention to

Re: Problem with setting up a networking interface

2008-06-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 06:51:00PM +0800, Pete Kay wrote: Hi, I am trying to setup a new linux box for xen. Here is my setup Lan ( 192.168.1.1) connecting to 5 computers. The one I am setting up the new linux has Lan IP (192.168.1.105). I want to set it up so that this 192.168.1.105

Re: problems with gnu screen within console

2008-06-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:02:51PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Tony R Quilkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arvind Marathe wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arvind Marathe wrote: The user (i.e. myself) launching

Re: java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64?

2008-06-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 03:09:36PM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:21 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: Can anyone tell me where to get a java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64? just

Re: [OT] Re: Simple awk question

2008-05-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 04:45:25PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 18:13:30 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:06:48AM +0100, John Allen wrote: ... Here is some sample Perl. ...must ...not ...look... grep bounced /var/log

Re: Re: amd64 and sun-java6-jdk

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:57:27AM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: Hello Andrew, yes i think it is a (minor) bug but being new to debian was unsure about correct place to report bug. I'm not sure about backport bugs, but probably the place to report it is in the debian bug tracking system. It's

Re: What packages has aptitude installed on my server?

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:41:02PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: Kelly Jones wrote: I often do aptitude install package to install a package. Cow can I get a list of all the packages I've installed this way? Looking at /var/cache/apt/archives seems like a kludge? dpkg -l | less dpkg -l |

Re: Simple awk question

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:06:48AM +0100, John Allen wrote: ... Here is some sample Perl. ...must ...not ...look... grep bounced /var/log/mail.log | perl -p -e 's|\w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ (\w+) (\w+) \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ \w+ (.*)|\2 \1 \3|g' ACK! now my eyes are bleeding again...

Re: amd64 and sun-java6-jdk

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 02:35:29AM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: ... I kind of got the impression while working to load these that Debian offer these Sun Java packages so they can say they offer them but try to discourage people from using what they consider propietory software by

Re: java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64?

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: Can anyone tell me where to get a java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64? I thought www.blackdown.org was the place to get it but that site does not seem to exist. so far as I know there is no java plugin for 64 bit systems.

Re: java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64?

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: Can anyone tell me where to get a java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64? I thought www.blackdown.org was the place to get it but that site does not seem to exist. Any suggestion? just for the record, I just installed and

Version Openssl et Puttygen Windows

2008-05-28 Thread West
Salut, Apres une mise à jour via aptitude sur ma Etch + Reboot. J'ai vérifié la version openssl, j'ai toujours : #openssl version OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 Est-ce normal ? Comment m'assurer que j'ai bien la version corrigée ? Derniere question, j'ai réalisé mes clef privé pour

Re: Version Openssl et Puttygen Windows

2008-05-28 Thread West
David Prévot a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 West a écrit : Salut, Apres une mise à jour via aptitude sur ma Etch + Reboot. Le reboot ne sert à rien si tu ne changes pas le noyau... J'ai vérifié la version openssl, j'ai toujours : #openssl version OpenSSL 0.9.8c

Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 08:14:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:07:45 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Come on, all geeks know nothing is bug free. The bugs just haven't And you call yourself a Mutt user! From the manpage: Quote BUGS

Re: obscenely OT Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 01:23:27PM -0400, David A. Parker wrote: Cantilevered elastics work wonders. As does a firm dis-belief in gravity. One view of National Geographic will disabuse you of that notion... that's the whole point of firm dis-belief! National Geographic is just clearly

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008-05-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 03:12:44PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 25/05/2008, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now as to whether misappropriating that source code is a crime is beyond my knowledge. debian-legal would probably know. I'm starting to think it is, because you

Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Owen Townend wrote: On 25/05/2008, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2008 03:11:05 +1000 Owen Townen wrote: On 24/05/2008, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GRUB error 29

2008-05-25 Thread Kent West
searching was to use grub-install /dev/hda instead of using the grub cli. Anyway grub-install worked just fine :) Thank you for your time. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Debian error database.....

2008-05-25 Thread Kent West
like the Microsoft Knowledge Database does for Windows issues. I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with a Microsoft error db, if that's something different, so can't really address your question. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Won't boot after dist-upgrade: mount: No such device

2008-05-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 02:14:08PM -0400, Bec Dridan wrote: Hi, I have just installed Debian on my new MacBook. After getting a basic working testing system, I tried to dist-upgrade to unstable and now it won't boot. It runs LILO, boots a 2.6.25-2-686 kernel and then can't mount the root

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 04:46, wrote: Kent West wrote: You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. That makes my day! Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? From http

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 13:38, wrote: From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/part2/section-19.html: o) The keypad arrow keys move the pointer o) The keypad '5' key behaves like the 'default' pointer button o) The keypad '0' key locks the default pointer button (for easy

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
it). But, (and here's probably where your problem is), the feature has to be activated. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad

Re: acpi kernel modules - obsolete or not?

2008-05-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 04:17:00AM -0700, Bill wrote: On Mon, 2008-19-05 at 21:55 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: ACPI will be replaced, but it's APM (and Plug-and-Play) that is deprecated in favor of ACPI. It is widely needed by billions of motherboards, and won't be eliminated entirely

Re: X gets killed immediately after successful graphical logon

2008-05-15 Thread Kent West
sits mounted read/write? -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel panic: initramfs problem?

2008-05-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:57:30AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:49:17AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:14:04AM -0700, Bill wrote: Hi folks, Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: Invalid

Re: apt-get question..

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 02:48:29PM -0400, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: I have a debian system installed and want to dist upgrade it, BUT I want apt--get dist-upgrade to upgrade only the installed debs and not to download everything under the sun! dist-upgrade will only upgrade those packages that

Re: HTMLVIEW to read mutt HTML email from browser

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:06:55PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:41:11AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: the benefit to Andrei's method (which I use as well **) is that you don't have to change windows or wait for a browser to start up (well, okay

Re: HTMLVIEW to read mutt HTML email from browser

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 03:42:26PM +1000, hce wrote: On 5/10/08, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 08:57:20PM +1000, hce wrote: Hi, In FC6, it automatically launches the browser when I open an HTML email in mutt. I've just learned because the FC has

Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:05:08PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: I have a 15 monitor at home running at 1024x768. I find that for most apps, very little screen estate is left for the actual stuff and most of it is eaten up by the menubars, toolbars, and othe gui elements. I have my

Re: Kernel panic: initramfs problem?

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:14:04AM -0700, Bill wrote: Hi folks, Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: Invalid argument Done. run-init: making initramfs contents: Directory not empty kernel-panic: not syncing : attempted to kill init! I would focus on

Debian Installer Hangs on MacBook

2008-05-06 Thread Kent West
So I reconfigured my new MacBook (MacBook4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM) to dual-boot between OS/X and Ubuntu (keep reading; this isn't about Ubuntu) using rEfit. I chose Ubuntu because it was easy, and I just wanted to get a feel for how well Linux would run on the MacBook. It worked

Re: Debian Installer Hangs on MacBook

2008-05-06 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: ... I downloaded the 4.0.r3.13 netinstaller ISO and burned it to CD, and then booted from it. ... the boot process hangs fairly early in the process Jerome BENOIT wrote: you may want to visit the mactel site: www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page and more specific ones

Re: encrypted swap causing me troubles on boot

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 04:01:22PM +, Zoho Vignochi wrote: Hello: I have one of the famous Eeepc's and I performed a hardware hack in order to expand internal drive storage space. So I have the internal ssd card (/ dev/sda) 4 GB and a usb stick soldered to one of the usb ports and held

Re: jre wine

2008-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 09:04:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/27/08 18:56, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 08:08:33PM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have installed wine. How to make jre to work in wine. I couldn't install windows version of jre in wine. maybe I

Re: mysql startup issue after dist-upgrade

2008-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:30:13PM -0700, Bajji sw wrote: I guess I know now, I should not have dist-upgraded yesterday. I run mythtv on Debian 4.0 with mysql. I went from a single system to enabling access on my lan. The problem seems to be that the ip address of this server system is

Re: jre wine

2008-04-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 08:08:33PM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have installed wine. How to make jre to work in wine. I couldn't install windows version of jre in wine. maybe I missed part of this thread, but why? java is multiplatform, you don't need to install a jre in wine. Just run the

Re: Debugging a java programme

2008-04-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 06:13:29PM +0100, andy wrote: Hello I tried to run a java-based programme on a Lenny machine. This is what happened: $ java jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar you need to specify that you are trying to run a /jar file. try: java -jar jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar Exception

Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Chris wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2008, Bob McGowan wrote: Chris wrote: Hello, I want to run a script to rsync local files to a NAS mounted to /mnt/music. Sometimes the NAS is not running, and I want to prevent the script from writing to

Re: emacs sarge surprise!

2008-04-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:32:30PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:25:47 +1000, Adrian Levi wrote: I can't understand why Emacs would depend on one package manager over another. Unless I'm missing the bleeding obvious. Well, it *is* emacs. Maybe it has an operating

Re: insert USB stick, Debian crash

2008-04-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:06:04AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Thu April 17 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think). When I insert

Re: hplip 2.8.2 or 2.8.4 on sid

2008-04-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:24:17PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: Is it possible to install the above, eitherone, on a sid machine. I need it fot my HP H470 printer. umm... google? according to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/downloads.html the automatic installer is known to work for all

Re: urgently need help with Debian can't started

2008-04-18 Thread Kent West
Pete Kay wrote: After I installed scim-pinyin, I rebooted the server and I can't bring up Debian X-window anymore. It does request for the username and password, but then it just hangs there in the screen, and does not go to the main window. I can reboot to get to command prompt. Can

Re: CD burning stopped working

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:33:36AM -0400, Frank wrote: Running Sid/Lenny -- after recent updates, CD burning on my machine has stopped working. Normaly I use Gnomebaker...I have reinstalled it and wodim but that was not a solution. The script burn-cd gives me this: [EMAIL

Re: insert USB stick, Debian crash

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:18:06AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think). When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the computer

Re: Question about how aptitude search is used

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:57:48PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:38:46AM +0900, Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: ... You need to tell in NEWS file that local scripts need to add ~n before serch string to make it act as before under the new version.

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:30:30PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:48:36AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: and one more thought. Could it be possible to write a video driver that is essentially a dummy? A blind user does need X to actually draw on the screen

Re: Lenny d-i and KDE

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 01:51:48PM +0100, Michael C wrote: Hi, Does the current build of the Lenny d-i allow users to specify a KDE-only desktop installation? the lenny beta1 release includes a kde version of cd 1:

Re: checking life of battery?

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:23:11PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: 1) Is there any way to check the life of a battery on a Dell Inspiron 6400 E1505? I am using Debian Etch. what do you mena by life of the battery? If you mean it's operational life, like before it wears out and doesn't hold

Re: Lenny d-i and KDE

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 08:29:42PM +0100, Michael C wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Michael C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Andrew --- I didn't make myself nearly clear enough --- is the Lenny d-i *net* install CD able to provide for a KDE-only

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:46:26AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Both of you, thanks! Andrew Sackville-West wrote: In your opinion, am I right in my assessment that testing is more likely to be in an unusable state for longer than sid? (at least at the package

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:16:19AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... I personally wouldn't run a testing system for regular use. I would run sid or stable (with backports as needed). Of course, YMMV. ... Interesting, when you put it like that it does make

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:34:30PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:09:26PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Contrast that with sid, bug fixes happen fast. It seems, in my limited experience, that serious bugs that get caught in sid rapidly disappear

Re: sidux + a word on Debian

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:52AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:47:08 +0200 Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The unstable isn't really unstable per say, but it just breaks from time to time because so many changes are added daily. From time to time the

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:39:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On 14-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Perhaps debian should have an accessible install CD in addition to all the different DTE install CDs

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
we really need to conflate this thread with the sidux one... On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-04-15 01:47 +0200, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote: comix - The version in Testing had security problems, so

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:44:27PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/15/08 12:32, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:27:15PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-04-15 18:43 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: It is true that sid users should generally check out for grave bugs and security issues of packages

Re: sidux + a word on Debian

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:02:13PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-04-15 18:35 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: excellent description. MY wife, whose box is running mostly-up-to-date sid, is annoyed because every few months some program changes it's icon or some bit of its interface

Re: sidux

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:29:19PM +0100, Michael C wrote: Haines Brown wrote: Michael, I wanted to put Debian on a new Thinkpad X61s, and to achieve that with minimal pain, I went with sidux. I created a USB-stick to install it, and it went as smooth as can be. I'm using the machine with

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 02:04:39PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: On 14-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Perhaps debian should have an accessible install CD in addition to all the different DTE install CDs. E.g. one where sound works on most boxes and comes up with voice prompts

Re: sidux

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:25:11PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The crucial bit that many miss is that new packages don't move into testing unless they've sat in unstable with no new bug reports for 10 days (I think). Or 5 days (urgency=medium in changelog). Or 2

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: ... As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion AGAIN. only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a comin' A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Kent West
Florian Kulzer wrote: Is this the right room for an argument? HA-H! I loved Flying Circus! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a comin' ... Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I am currently

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Is this the right room for an argument? HA-H! I loved Flying Circus! No, you didn't! Well, now you're just contradicting

Re: lenny net instal problem

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:39:43PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: When the kernel is uncompressing, I get an invalid compressed format (err=1) ---System halted It seems that others have had this problem due to media issues. I've tried to reburn the image and that still doesn't

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:58:29AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, April 8, 2008 3:19 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: well, that's just plain frustrating. It's got me worried because my xen setup is working great in etch... might have to leave it there for a while. Well, the main

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently Drinking the soberly impaired? A

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: Just because he's dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders, contrary to what Rush thinks.

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:45:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Kent West
Curt Howland wrote: Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, especially when I see something Gee, that doesn't look right... and poof it's gone. This is why I don't

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:56:10AM -0400, mike wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:39:48AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Thu April 10 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: Well I tried... you bunch of hair splitting ninnies!! leave my hair out of this! I'm bald, you insensitive clod! there, now we can flame away  ;-) Nah.  It's more fun to

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: .. Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, especially when I see something Gee, that doesn't look

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull stumps with it... Gee, ya think

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: .. Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card. A couple questions:

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:48:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/09/08 06:43, Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:37:30 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ling isgs? That must be some sort of typo, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out! Long sigs ?

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:28:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: slot wore out (don't ask me how, because I don't know). At the end, I had to keep a rubberband pulling that daughter board at just the right angle, or the thing

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:41:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/08/08 22:39, David Fox wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a 3 month, 400-post OT mega-thread? Well, it may get off to a slow start, then. I didn't see any mention of

Re: Using colours in mutt (long lines, line noise :-).

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:41:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/09/08 20:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:14:05AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still doesn't help on my white-on-black VT520. A bit of white-space (well,

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