Re: What packages has aptitude installed on my server?

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:41:02PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Kelly Jones wrote: >> I often do "aptitude install package" to install a package. >> >> Cow can I get a list of all the packages I've installed this way? >> >> Looking at /var/cache/apt/archives seems like a kludge? >> > dpkg -l | les

Re: Re: amd64 and sun-java6-jdk

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:57:27AM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: > Hello Andrew, > > yes i think it is a (minor) bug but being new to debian was unsure > about correct place to report bug. I'm not sure about backport bugs, but probably the place to report it is in the debian bug tracking system. It's

Re: java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64?

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > Can anyone tell me where to get a java plugin for Debian testing on an > AMD64? I thought www.blackdown.org was the place to get it but that site > does not seem to exist. > > Any suggestion? just for the record, I just installed a

Re: java plugin for Debian testing on an AMD64?

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > Can anyone tell me where to get a java plugin for Debian testing on an > AMD64? I thought www.blackdown.org was the place to get it but that site > does not seem to exist. so far as I know there is no java plugin for 64 bit systems.

Re: amd64 and sun-java6-jdk

2008-05-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 02:35:29AM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: ... > > I kind of got the impression while working to load these that Debian > offer these Sun Java packages so they can say they offer them but > try to discourage people from using what they consider propietory > software by

Re: obscenely OT Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 01:23:27PM -0400, David A. Parker wrote: > Cantilevered elastics work wonders. As does a firm dis-belief in gravity. >>> >>> One view of National Geographic will disabuse you of that notion... >> >> that's the whole point of firm dis-belief! National Geographic is

Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 08:14:17PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:07:45 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > > Come on, all geeks know nothing is bug free. The bugs just haven't > > And you call y

Re: Debian error database.....

2008-05-25 Thread Kent West
like the Microsoft Knowledge Database does for Windows issues. I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with a "Microsoft error db", if that's something different, so can't really address your question. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- T

Re: GRUB error 29

2008-05-25 Thread Kent West
n a floppy drive. Anyway the solution i found after some searching was to use grub-install /dev/hda instead of using the grub cli. Anyway grub-install worked just fine :) Thank you for your time. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Owen Townend wrote: > > On 25/05/2008, Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 May 2008 03:11:05 +1000 Owen Townen wrote: > >> > On 24/05/2008, Chris Bannister <[E

Re: Blocking Gmail ads

2008-05-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 03:12:44PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 25/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now as to whether misappropriating that source code is a crime is > > beyond my knowledge. debian-legal would probably know. > > I'm starting to think it is, beca

Re: Won't boot after dist-upgrade: mount: No such device

2008-05-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 02:14:08PM -0400, Bec Dridan wrote: > Hi, > > I have just installed Debian on my new MacBook. After getting a basic > working testing system, I tried to dist-upgrade to unstable and now it > won't boot. It runs LILO, boots a 2.6.25-2-686 kernel and then can't > mount the ro

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 13:38, wrote: From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/part2/section-19.html: o) The keypad arrow keys move the pointer o) The keypad '5' key behaves like the 'default' pointer button o) The keypad '0' key locks the de

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 04:46, wrote: Kent West wrote: You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. That makes my day! Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? From http

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
it). But, (and here's probably where your problem is), the feature has to be activated. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwe

Re: acpi kernel modules - obsolete or not?

2008-05-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 04:17:00AM -0700, Bill wrote: > On Mon, 2008-19-05 at 21:55 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > ACPI will be replaced, but it's APM (and Plug-and-Play) that is > > deprecated in favor of ACPI. It is widely needed by billions of > > motherboards, and won't be eliminated entirely

Re: X gets killed immediately after successful graphical logon

2008-05-15 Thread Kent West
mkinitramfs-kpgk" exist? What are the perms on the file? Is the volume on which that file sits mounted read/write? -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel panic: initramfs problem?

2008-05-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:57:30AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:49:17AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:14:04AM -0700, Bill wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom > &

Re: HTMLVIEW to read mutt HTML email from browser

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:06:55PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:41:11AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > the benefit to Andrei's method (which I use as well **) is that you > > don't have to change windows or wait for a browser

Re: apt-get question..

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 02:48:29PM -0400, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: > > I have a debian system installed and want to dist > upgrade it, BUT I want apt--get dist-upgrade to upgrade > only the installed debs and not to download everything > under the sun! dist-upgrade will only upgrade those packages tha

Re: Kernel panic: initramfs problem?

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:14:04AM -0700, Bill wrote: > Hi folks, > Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom > mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: Invalid argument > Done. > run-init: making initramfs contents: Directory not empty > kernel-panic: not syncing : attempted to kill init! I would foc

Re: Reducing wastage of screen real estate in gnome

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:05:08PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > I have a 15" monitor at home running at 1024x768. I find that for most > apps, very little screen estate is left for the actual stuff and most of > it is eaten up by the menubars, toolbars, and othe gui elements. I have > my

Re: HTMLVIEW to read mutt HTML email from browser

2008-05-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 03:42:26PM +1000, hce wrote: > On 5/10/08, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 08:57:20PM +1000, hce wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > In FC6, it automatically launches the browser when I open an HTML > > > email in mutt. I've just learned be

Re: Debian Installer Hangs on MacBook

2008-05-06 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: ... I downloaded the 4.0.r3.13 netinstaller ISO and burned it to CD, and then booted from it. ... the boot process hangs fairly early in the process Jerome BENOIT wrote: you may want to visit the mactel site: www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page and more specific ones

Debian Installer Hangs on MacBook

2008-05-06 Thread Kent West
So I reconfigured my new MacBook (MacBook4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM) to dual-boot between OS/X and Ubuntu (keep reading; this isn't about Ubuntu) using rEfit. I chose Ubuntu because it was easy, and I just wanted to get a feel for how well Linux would run on the MacBook. It worked

Re: encrypted swap causing me troubles on boot

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 04:01:22PM +, Zoho Vignochi wrote: > Hello: > > I have one of the famous Eeepc's and I performed a hardware hack in order > to expand internal drive storage space. So I have the internal ssd card (/ > dev/sda) 4 GB and a usb stick soldered to one of the usb ports and h

Re: mysql startup issue after dist-upgrade

2008-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:30:13PM -0700, Bajji sw wrote: > I guess I know now, I should not have dist-upgraded > yesterday. > > I run mythtv on Debian 4.0 with mysql. I went from a > single system to > enabling access on my lan. The problem seems to be > that the ip address > of this server syste

Re: jre wine

2008-04-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 09:04:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/27/08 18:56, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 08:08:33PM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > >> I have installed wine. How to make jre to work in wine. I couldn't > >> instal

Re: jre wine

2008-04-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 08:08:33PM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I have installed wine. How to make jre to work in wine. I couldn't > install windows version of jre in wine. maybe I missed part of this thread, but why? java is multiplatform, you don't need to install a jre in wine. Just run the lin

Re: Debugging a java programme

2008-04-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 06:13:29PM +0100, andy wrote: > Hello > > I tried to run a java-based programme on a Lenny machine. This is what > happened: > > $ java jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar you need to specify that you are trying to run a /jar file. try: java -jar jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar > Excep

Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Chris wrote: > On Thursday 24 April 2008, Bob McGowan wrote: > > Chris wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I want to run a script to rsync local files to a NAS mounted to > > > /mnt/music. Sometimes the NAS is not running, and I want to prevent the > > > script

Re: emacs sarge surprise!

2008-04-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:32:30PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:25:47 +1000, Adrian Levi wrote: > > > > I can't understand why Emacs would depend on one package manager over > > another. Unless I'm missing the bleeding obvious. > > Well, it *is* emacs. Maybe it has an oper

Re: urgently need help with Debian can't started

2008-04-18 Thread Kent West
Pete Kay wrote: After I installed scim-pinyin, I rebooted the server and I can't bring up Debian X-window anymore. It does request for the username and password, but then it just hangs there in the screen, and does not go to the main window. I can reboot to get to command prompt. Can anyon

Re: hplip 2.8.2 or 2.8.4 on sid

2008-04-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:24:17PM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Is it possible to install the above, eitherone, on a sid machine. I need it > fot my HP H470 printer. umm... google? according to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/downloads.html the automatic installer is known to work for all deb

Re: insert USB stick, Debian crash

2008-04-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:06:04AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Thu April 17 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy > > > linux on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( &

Re: insert USB stick, Debian crash

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:18:06AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux > on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think). > When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the computer rebo

Re: CD burning stopped working

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:33:36AM -0400, Frank wrote: > > > Running Sid/Lenny -- after recent updates, CD burning on my machine has > stopped working. > Normaly I use Gnomebaker...I have reinstalled it and wodim but that was > not a solution. > > The script burn-cd gives me this: > > [EMAIL PR

Re: Lenny d-i and KDE

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 08:29:42PM +0100, Michael C wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Michael C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry Andrew --- I didn't make myself nearly clear enough --- is the >>> Lenny d-i *net* install CD able to provide for a KDE

Re: checking life of battery?

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:23:11PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > 1) Is there any way to check the life of a battery on a Dell Inspiron 6400 > E1505? I am using Debian Etch. what do you mena by life of the battery? If you mean it's operational life, like before it wears out and doesn't hold

Re: Lenny d-i and KDE

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 01:51:48PM +0100, Michael C wrote: > Hi, > > Does the current build of the Lenny d-i allow users to specify a > KDE-only desktop installation? the lenny beta1 release includes a kde version of cd 1: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta1/i386/iso-cd/debian-testin

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:30:30PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:48:36AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > and one more thought. Could it be possible to write a video driver > > that is essentially a dummy? A blind user does need X to ac

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: >>> Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, >>> reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalli

Re: Question about how "aptitude search" is used

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:57:48PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:38:46AM +0900, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: ... > > You need to tell in NEWS file that local scripts need to add "~n" before > > serch string to make it act as before under the new v

Re: sidux + a word on Debian

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:02:13PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-04-15 18:35 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > excellent description. MY wife, whose box is running mostly-up-to-date > > sid, is annoyed because every few months some program changes it's >

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:27:15PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-04-15 18:43 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> It is true that sid users should generally check out for grave bugs and &g

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:44:27PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/15/08 12:32, Sam Leon wrote: > > Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, > > reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps > > that were installed and hopefully all the conf files i

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:39:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On 14-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > >> Perhaps debian should have an accessible install CD in addition to all

Re: Packages temporarily disappearing from Testing/Lenny

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
we really need to conflate this thread with the sidux one... On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-04-15 01:47 +0200, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:20:00PM +0200, David wrote: > > > >> comix - The version in Testing had security prob

Re: sidux + a word on Debian

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:52AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:47:08 +0200 > Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > The unstable isn't really unstable per say, but it just breaks from time > > to time because so many changes are added daily. From time to time t

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:34:30PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:09:26PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > Contrast that with sid, bug fixes happen fast. It seems, in my limited > > experience, that serious bugs that get caught in sid rap

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:16:19AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... > > > > I personally wouldn't run a testing system for regular use. I would > > run sid or stable (with backports as needed). Of course, YMMV. > > ... > Interesting

Re: sidux

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:46:26AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: Both of you, thanks! > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> In your opinion, am I right in my assessment that testing is more > >> likely to be in an unusable state for lon

Re: sidux

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:25:11PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > The crucial bit that many miss is that new packages don't move into > > testing unless they've sat in unstable with no new bug reports for 10 > > days (I think). &g

Re: Reg Blind

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 02:04:39PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > On 14-Apr-08, at 9:58 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> Perhaps debian should have an accessible install CD in addition to all >> the different DTE install CDs. E.g. one where sound works on most >> boxes >> and comes up with voice prom

Re: sidux

2008-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:29:19PM +0100, Michael C wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: >> Michael, >> >> I wanted to put Debian on a new Thinkpad X61s, and to achieve that with >> minimal pain, I went with sidux. I created a USB-stick to install it, >> and it went as smooth as can be. I'm using the machi

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Florian Kulzer wrote: > >> Is this the right room for an argument? > >> > > > > HA-H! > > > > I loved Flying

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [...] > > > only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a > > comin' ... > > Andrew, since it's OT time,

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Kent West
Florian Kulzer wrote: Is this the right room for an argument? HA-H! I loved Flying Circus! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: ... > > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion AGAIN. only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a comin' A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:45:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> I h

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Just because > > he's > > dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders, > > contrary > > to what Rush

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: > [snip] > > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It > > Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently > Drinking the soberly impaired?

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:58:29AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, April 8, 2008 3:19 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > well, that's just plain frustrating. It's got me worried because my > > xen setup is working great in etch... might have to leave it there for &

Re: lenny net instal problem

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:39:43PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote: > When the kernel is uncompressing, I get an > > invalid compressed format (err=1) > > ---System halted > > It seems that others have had this problem due to media issues. I've tried > to reburn the image and that still doesn'

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 11:28, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > > .. > > > >> Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and t

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:17:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I have a 1965 International Harvester (aka Cornbinder) Metro-Mite > > delivery truck. It's so cool. Geared so low in first, you could pull &

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:16:15AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: .. > Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log > doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them > as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:39:48AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Thu April 10 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Well I tried... you bunch of hair splitting ninnies!! > > leave my hair out of this! > > > > > I'm bald, you insensitive clod! > > > > > there, now we can flame away  ;-) > > > > Nah.

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:56:10AM -0400, mike wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: >> >>> I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing >>> debian on a Dell 530 Intel Core

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-10 Thread Kent West
Curt Howland wrote: Now, the boot messages scroll off so fast I can't read them, and the log doesn't pick up all of them. Some times I really miss being able to read them as they went by, especially when I see something "Gee, that doesn't look right..." and poof it's gone. This is why I don't

Re: Pencil.

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:58:34AM +0800, Telaman Consultancies wrote: > I note this has a Ubuntu download: > > http://www.les-stooges.org/pascal/pencil/index.php?id=Home > > ...but not found in Debian. > Might be an interesting addition for some. it has a debian/ directory in the source tree an

Re: Firestarter dumping blocked events to console

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:24:40PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Hi there, > > I installed firestarter on Debian Etch. From my understanding it is pretty > much a front end to the ipstarter firewall. Everything has been going great > except for one minor annoyance... ... > > Anyways, as so

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:27:30PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > That's an invalid invocation of Godwin's Law. > > Bsides, Godwin never promised that a thread would _end_ when Hitler was > mentioned: just that he eventually would be. Well I tried... you bunch of hair splitti

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:53:08PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 06:25:01 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:58:14AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > > > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > If before we were kettle and pot, now that duct tape is

Re: Using colours in mutt (long lines, line noise :-).

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:41:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 20:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:14:05AM +0200, s. keeling wrote: > >> Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > >>> Still doesn't help on my white-on-black VT520. A bit of white-space >

Re: Fwd: trans

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:41:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/08/08 22:39, David Fox wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> For a 3 month, 400-post OT mega-thread? > > > > Well, it may get off to a slow start, then. I didn't see any mention >

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:28:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, Brian McKee wrote: > > >>>slot "wore out" (don't ask me how, because I don't know). At the > > >>>end, I had to keep a rubberband pulling that daughter board at just > > >>>the right angle,

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:48:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/09/08 06:43, Bob Cox wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:37:30 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > >> ling isgs? > >> > >> That must be some sort of typo, but I'll be damned if I can figure > >> it out! >

Re: Problems installing debian on Dell 530 with unrecognized NIC

2008-04-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:01:37AM -0700, Dan Turk wrote: > I need to get advice / help on how to best go about installing debian on a > Dell 530 Intel Core 2 Quad-core machine for which the debian installer does > not recognize the Intel 82562V-2 Network Interface Card. > > A couple questi

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Apparently I had some mail in the queue on my laptop... On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:44:15AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Sun, April 6, 2008 11:09 am, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> auto eth1 > >> iface eth1 inet static > >> address 192.168.1.21 >

Re: X configuration with xserver-xorg-video-intel

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 08:25:31AM -0400, William Thompson wrote: > I forgot to mention that I'm not on the list, Keep me in the CC. > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 03:08:20PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:36:53PM -0400, William Thompson wrote

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:07:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > >> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this >

Re: Xen in Etch, basic setup

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:17:53AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> so far as I know, having shorewall turned off in >> /etc/defaults/shorewall completely prevents it from running. So you >> would be left with bog standard iptables setup -- wide

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:51:07PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> I have seen direct evidence of the problem inherent in reply-to >> munging. We had a student reply to an email thinking she was replying >>

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this > list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like rabbits. Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but I'll *never* drink cheap

Re: Reply to list (was Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question.)

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:51AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 02:54:26PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [..] > Regarding: > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > > > yeah, it's tough. It was also a simply avoided mi

Re: X configuration with xserver-xorg-video-intel

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:36:53PM -0400, William Thompson wrote: > I have 2 PCs with a 915 chipset. One wants to use 1280x768 resolution and > the other wants 1152x864 resolution. I haven't setup a new system in a > while with X and I'm running into some problems/differences. > > I like to have

Re: question for the listmasters - bounce threshold?

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:04:21PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > I get a warning from the Debian listservers once in a while that my > server is bouncing messages and that: maybe don't bounce them. either REJECT them at smtp time or simply blackhole them. if you're bouncing them, you've already go

Re: Taskmanager wierdness

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:44:33PM +0200, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > > Running Xfce4-taskmanager on my Lenny (amd64) box, it doubles the one or two > top items, adding more and more items while running. It seems to be visibly > only, I don't see any strangeness in htop. > > Does anybody else se

Re: new openoffice possibility

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 03:56:17PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > gcj could be causing problems undercover. I read over on the > gnome-accessibility list that for accessibility at least the applications > that do accessibility were all tuned to the sun java packages and not > gcj. If all else f

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:03:34AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:17:49PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West

Re: face headers on mail to the list

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:43:56AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:11:04 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Andrew, > > > seriously, though, it's silly vanity. That said, if you can get a > > reasonable like

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:46:15PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > Since we're off topic and talking about low end machine. I don't know if any > of you guys have heard of this new linux distro on the block called slitaz. > > http://www.slitaz.org/en/ hey that's cool. I love little distros

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:19:24PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 19:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> Totally ACK! This is the kind of situation that inflames my > >> crotchetiness gland and impels me to pull out my ca

Re: Using colours in mutt (was Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again)

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:50:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:37:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > > > Still doesn't help on my white-on-black

Re: [VERY OT while waiting for Lenny?] reminiscing on old computers

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:18:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > > so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants

Re: What are these folders in home?

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:56:11PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 04/04/2008, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just move all the $HOME stuff out of the way, and see what happens. If > > you see that something important is gone, file movement is > > reversible :). > > Important stuff like

Re: Suspend not working

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:17:12PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:47:48 +0100 > Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 15:09:22 -0400, Frank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > > > I am running Sid using IceWm, not Gnome. Today for the first tim

Re: Using colours in mutt (was Re: Disk Drive Order Changes - Again)

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:44:44AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:40:48PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > Fair enough. just a thought. BTW, it's darn hard to

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