Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 24 May 2022 13:27:29 +0200 Antonino Saetta wrote: > Hi, > > After my surrender to Jessie I've thought of moving on with Stretch. > > Currently I've installed it through the net, no problems at all. > > So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop > environment,

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:04:02 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali > > wrote: > > > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will > > > continue to work but ability to download mail with POP

Re: Upgrading Jessie to Stretch

2017-03-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 04:54:17 +1300 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 09:07:45AM -0500, songbird wrote: > > because i keep a second bootable partition a > > few versions back i am a bit more brave/stupid > > at times and just do the usual routine: > > > > = > > > >

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 00:42:00 +1300 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:30:11PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So > > why at install time, is there no choice for the init syst

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 20:08:04 -0400 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Patrick Bartek > > wrote: > > > > Never came across those during my research before posting my initial > > query here. And I

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 12:53:30 -0500 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 03 Apr 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The documentation for ALL the init systems has already been written > > and is fairly comprehensive. Maintenance on the various inits, > > except systemd, of course --

Re: debian stretch

2017-04-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:47:01 +0200 mattias jonsson wrote: > will it support secureboot in its current stage I've seen nothing saying it will. B

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 14:27:40 -0400 David Niklas wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So > > why at install time, is there no choice for the init system? You > &

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 16:25:57 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 7 April 2017 at 19:27, David Niklas wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. >

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy > > servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's > > like being forced to u

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 10:36:33 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 11:07:13PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Perhaps instead of "..more suited," it should have been "intended" > > for servers. After all, wasn't systemd adopted f

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: > fc: > > > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list > masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300 > Debian lists¹ wit

Re: new firefox for wheezy last night, can't do squat on the net today.

2017-04-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:24:32 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Went to newegg.com to look for some optical fiber but the front page, > while I think its alive, did not respond to a mouse click on any > product link. I hope its not contagious. > > Many news sites are saying "request entity too large"

Re: new firefox for wheezy last night, can't do squat on the net today.

2017-04-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:21:28 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 22 April 2017 23:22:45 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:24:32 -0400 Gene Heskett > > > > > > wrote: > > > Went to newegg.com to look for some optical fiber but the fr

Re: new firefox for wheezy last night, can't do squat on the net today.

2017-04-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:41:30 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2017 15:15:05 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:21:28 -0400 Gene Heskett > > > > > > wrote: > > > On Saturday 22 April 2017 23:22:45 Patrick Bartek wrote: >

Re: new firefox for wheezy last night, can't do squat on the net today.

2017-04-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 19:33:12 -0500 David Wright wrote: > [Big Snip] > > > None of which ever worked 100% because the web pages all seemed > > > to be using a different version. The "it works here" syndrome, > > > essentially the same as the N.I.H. beliefs. :( > > > > Well, I'm glad flash is dyi

Re: funny times

2017-04-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:33:53 -0400 songbird wrote: > when my computer is turned off the clock > runs slow. > > when my computer is turned on the clock > runs fast. If your computer is more than about 4 or 5 years old, replace the BIOS backup battery on the motherboard. It is used by the c

Re: Download Manager

2017-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 7 May 2017 23:37:53 +0530 Ashok Inder wrote: > For past 7 years, Linux does not have a single descent Download > Manager. Its totally possible that none of you may have faced this > issue ever but its a somewhat major issue for me... > > First with WGET, I'm not at all comfortable with c

Re: Download Manager

2017-05-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
at's important: Does uget satisfy your definition of a "decent' download manager? Does it do what you need it to do? B > > -------- > > *From:* Patrick Bartek <mailto:nemomm...@gmail.com> > *Sent:

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

2017-05-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 14 May 2017 07:51:18 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I've never used a VM but I wanted to ask some newbie questions about > them. Then first you should read the manual and the FAQs. Here's the link to the Documentation page for VirtualBox, one of the more popular and easy to set up V

Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread about why there is no choice of inits during an initial install. Since that time, I've tested several systemd-less distros[1] as well as Stretch as replacements for my aging Wheezy system. With Stretch my plan was to see if I cou

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 19 May 2017 15:18:28 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Thank you for sharing your experiences! You're welcome. It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie. I know. I tried it. jessie required manual co

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > > > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread > > about why there is no choice of inits during an initial install. &g

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:45:16 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with > > sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie. > > I

Re: Upgrading to Stretch from Jessie

2017-06-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:51:18 -0700 HP Garcia wrote: > Is the procedure to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch. Is to replace > Jessie with Stretch in sources.list and then run update upgrade. > Correct? No. You'll need to read the Release Notes about upgrading to Stretch and follow the instructions

Re: How to migrate from sid to stable?

2017-06-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:05:19 +0200 Pétùr wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a computer which does not need anymore to be running the > unstable version. I would like to migrate it to stable at some point. > > If I backup the home and rsync it on a new installation of Debian > stable, I will have

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

2017-06-17 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 09:17:22 -0400 RavenLX wrote: > Today (Sunday June 17, 2017) seems to be the day they are going to > "officially" release Stretch! I never did get my laptops upgraded as > I'm creating an installation script to run post-install to install > and configure applications, utiliti

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

2017-06-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 06:58:43 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > From: nemomm...@gmail.com > > I"m going to wait about a week to 10 days after Stretch"s release > as Stable before installing while checking this list for any problems. > If all proves well, then clean, dual-boot install. > > So you fear som

Re: Wheezy: Firefox ESR update failed "half installed"--what do I do now?

2017-06-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 07:53:13 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Today, on Wheezy, I got a notification from apper that an update was > available (as I fairly often get). > > It was for firefox-esr, and, when I went to allow the update, I got a > notice that libjsonpp0 (not sure the blurb include

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:56:45 -0700 Mike McClain wrote: > When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: > The following packages have been kept back: > firefox-esr > and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. > Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade > ic

Re: flash in stretch again

2017-06-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > > On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > > >> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and > >> reinstalled it. I opened it up and the first game actu

Re: flash in stretch again

2017-06-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 17:18:50 -0400 Dan Norton wrote: > > > On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > &g

Re: flash in stretch again

2017-06-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 18:03:22 -0400 Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > > On 06/25/2017 05:18 PM, Dan Norton wrote: > > > > > > On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas > >> wrote: > >>

Re: Laser Printer recommendation...

2017-07-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 11:54:34 -0400 Whit Hansell wrote: > > > On 07/03/2017 10:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that > >> is currently available and reasonably priced (<

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 16:39:26 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:42:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to > > use an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use > > Windows. My laptop doesn't fee

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:51:39 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Christian Seiler wrote: > > > For both Jessie and Stretch, the following holds true: > > > > - GNOME requires systmed-logind's interfaces to work. (Or any > > alternative that implements the same DBus interface, but none > > exist in Debian a

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 15:56:06 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/04/2017 03:11 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:51:39 +0200 deloptes > > wrote: > > > >> Christian Seiler wrote: > >> > >>> For both Jessie and Stretch, the

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:35:10 -0700 David Griffith wrote: > On July 3, 2017 1:44:30 PM PDT, Martin Read > wrote: > >On 03/07/17 20:42, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > >> Is there a pure Debian alternative? > > > >There is an alternative init daemon, in the form of sysvinit > >(install the package "s

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:57:20 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 07:15:48PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >I suggested that a few months ago. Thread lasted a couple weeks. > >Lots of Pro and Con with a few "Too Hard to Do" or "Impossible to >

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0100 JPlews wrote: > > > > It would be nice to have an install-time option for selecting the > > desired init. > > > > Exactly what I think too, I have been wanting to start a thread about > 'Is multi-init at install dead?' but keep getting distracted because > i

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:53:10 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 03:11:05PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >My thoughts exactly. I stopped using GNOME or any desktop > >environment 5+ years ago. Resource hogs.. A window manager, a > >single panel

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:50:24 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:41:42PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >All that can be done on a window manager only system, too. Just > >install the utility needed, either terminal or X-based.. > > You are missing

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 10:57:55 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:32:17PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >If you're referring to "preseed" or "debootstrap" scenerios, those > >are more "work-arounds" than a choice from wit

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 20:55:48 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:02:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >Even in Expert Mode, there's no choice to install an alternate init. > >And with systemd being a major system dependency in Debian, it's >

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:53:09 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 03:31:18PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >I would be interested if there were. I've never seen such an option > ... > >Let the list know what you discover. > > I'm surp

Re: Replace systemd

2017-07-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:01:15 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Fri 07 Jul 2017 at 08:50:37 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:53:09 +0100 Jonathan Dowland > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 03:31:18PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >

Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find anything specific. Or did I miss the solution? My Test Setup: Stretch Stable 64-bit fr

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. Did a ma

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > >

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:57:50 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > f

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > wrote: > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> Getting no results from apt-get upg

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:13:06 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > From: nemomm...@gmail.com > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > Getting no results from ap

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:41:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > >> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> On Wed, 19 Jul 20

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:55:15 + (UTC) david...@freevolt.org wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > &

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 20-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have minimal install, why do you suspect that something is > > > wr

Re: Need to upgrade to jessie need help

2017-07-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:42:12 +0530 VigneshDhanraj G wrote: > Hi Team, > > I am using kernel 3.2.x, i know that support from wheezy will be > stopped soon. can i upgrade to jessie with same kernel version. > > Is that correct way of handling? LTS (Long Term Support) for Wheezy ends May 2018. S

Re: Need to upgrade to jessie need help

2017-07-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:06:01 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 25 Jul 2017 at 07:04:29 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:42:12 +0530 VigneshDhanraj G > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Team, > > > > > > I am using kernel 3.2.x, i

Re: Need to upgrade to jessie need help

2017-07-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 00:24:00 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 25 Jul 2017 at 16:14:52 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:06:01 +0100 Brian > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue 25 Jul 2017 at 07:04:29 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > >

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:52:42 +0400 Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello Debian Users, > > I have recently upgraded my box from Jessie to Stretch. > I encountered a few little issues that I could fixed easily. > Nevertheless, so far, I failed to fixed one of them, and a very > annoying one. > > During X

Re: Jessie to Stretch Upgrade: Enable Predictable Network Interface Names

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Flaig
Thanks, confirmed, the initrd doesn’t contain any udev rule files in /etc/udev/rules.d > Am 27.07.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Greg Wooledge : > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 06:04:49PM +0200, debian-li...@patschie.de wrote: >> Is there a way to manually check the contents of the initramfs, just to make

Re: Jessie to Stretch Upgrade: Enable Predictable Network Interface Names

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Flaig
> Am 27.07.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Michael Biebl : > > Am 27.07.2017 um 18:04 schrieb debian-li...@patschie.de: >> Hi Michael, >> >> I forgot to mention that I also recreated the initramfs: >> after several tries just to update it, I deleted the initramfs and recreated >> it completely. >> But s

Re: Jessie to Stretch Upgrade: Enable Predictable Network Interface Names

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Flaig
Oh my fault, 99-default.link is available, I checked the wrong folder. The file is containing some text, saying that the machine is most likely a virtualized guest. > Am 27.07.2017 um 19:28 schrieb Michael Biebl : > > Am 27.07.2017 um 18:55 schrieb debian-li...@patschie.de: > >>> Am 27.07.2017

Re: Jessie to Stretch Upgrade: Enable Predictable Network Interface Names

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Flaig
iles reference usernames or groups not present in the /etc/{passwd,group} files and the system is configured to use a network-based database like LDAP or NIS then udev may fail at boot time because users and groups are looked up well before the network has been initialized. A possible solution is to

Re: Jessie to Stretch Upgrade: Enable Predictable Network Interface Names

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Flaig
Hi Michael, great, that was the problem, removed the file, recreated the initramfs, now it works like a charm. Thanks a lot for the help. Patrick > Am 27.07.2017 um 21:29 schrieb Michael Biebl : > > Am 27.07.2017 um 20:21 schrieb Patrick Flaig: >> Sure, this is the content:

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 10:55:23 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:35:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Or do what I did: dispense with a screensaver entirely. Haven't > > used one in years. Waste of CPU cycles. Besides modern computer > > sc

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:08:41 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 27 Jul 2017 at 14:18:47 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:35:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > Or do what I did: dispense with a screensaver entirely. Haven't >

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:49:46 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 29 Jul 2017 at 07:57:49 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:08:41 -0500 David Wright > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu 27 Jul 2017 at 14:18:47 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > >

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:51:51 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/30/2017 10:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system runs 24/7

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:20:33 -0600 Ralph Katz wrote: > On 07/30/2017 08:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > ... > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system run

Re: Flash Player Problem

2017-08-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:38:37 -0400 Thomas George wrote: > An attempt to log in to the Bridgebase website fails. > > Login using firefox ESR results in an all blue screen. The firefox > plugin shockwave flash is installed. > > My system is debian stretch using the LXDE desktop. I have also > inst

Re: Where to install Flash Player?

2017-08-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:01:42 -0400 Thomas George wrote: > I downloaded flash-player-ppapi_26.0.0.137-1_amd64.deb into /opt and > used dpkg -i to install it. > > Is this the best way to do it? dpkg -s flash-player-ppapi responds ok > installed but dpkg -p flash-player-ppapi doesn't recognize it.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > RavenLX wrote: > > > >> I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more > >> frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so > >> that it would be back in Debian.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:19:53 -0400 RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX > > wrote: > >> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something > >> that will allow me

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:23:13 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real > >experience with, just read the manuals. Never cared much for QEMU > >or kvm, but

Stretch + nosystemd + VBoxGuestAdditions Quirk

2017-08-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
Have been testing Stretch with alternate inits -- sysvinit and runit to be specific -- in Virtualbox on a Wheezy host while leaving systemd files alone. Not even "pinning" them. Well decided to see what removing them would do. I followed the "Variant" option instructions on the Nosystemd site.

Re: Stretch + nosystemd + VBoxGuestAdditions Quirk

2017-08-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:12:29 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 06:15:09 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Have been testing Stretch with alternate inits -- sysvinit and > > runit to be specific -- in Virtualbox on a Wheezy host while > >

Re: Wheezy to Stretch

2018-02-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:45:51 + "Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)" wrote: > I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with > a fresh install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's support runs > out on May 31st. I will try the default systemd installation and see > how I lik

Re: XFCE problems

2018-03-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
s? Anyway, you can insert a 'Separator', and check its 'Expand' box, between the stuff you want on the right and the stuff you want on the left. Patrick

Re: A Problem with Firefox Quantum

2018-04-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 07:20:36 -0400 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > > On 04/01/2018 04:18 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Curt wrote: > > > >> Try: > >> > >> about:config > >> > >> browser.urlbar.unifiedcomplete > >> > >> Change boolean value to false. > >> > >> Restart browser.

Re: Error while upgrading from Wheezy to Stretch

2018-04-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:31:32 -0400 David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to upgrade two test boxes from Wheezy to Stretch (skipping > Jessie). The upgrade worked on one of them, although I ran into > errors and had to run "apt-get -f install" a few times, but that > resolved the issues a

Re: Inexplicable memory usage after move to Debian9

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:45:23 + Kenneth Parker wrote: > With the help of a "minimal" Debian 8 System, I am learning SystemD. > My guess was, simply due to more "Moving Parts", than the prior Boot > Process. More Open Processes, mean, practically more Memory Usage. > > Thanks! > > Kenneth Par

Re: color unstable under jessie

2018-05-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
> problem. > I had that happen some years ago, before my screen failed completely. That laptop has since been a headless server! Patrick >

Re: Sid in virtualbox: vbox drivers not built?

2018-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 06 May 2018 15:04:28 +0200 Felix Natter wrote: > hello Debian-users, > > I am using virtualbox-guest-x11 5.2.10-dfsg-6, but when starting X11, > "vboxvideo" cannot be found. The other utils ("copy and paste") do not > work either. > > I notice that when installing "virtualbox-guest-util

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: > > Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The > ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused slowly-progressing trouble > with several machines of

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2018, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith > > wrote: > > > >> Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > &g

Re: Problem with Firefox Quantum v-650.0

2018-05-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:00:27 -0400 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > > On 05/10/2018 11:13 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:07:43AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >> I've encountered a strange problem with the latest release of > >> Firefox Quantum v-60.0. > >> > >> Up to th

Re: Problem with Firefox Quantum v-650.0

2018-05-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 11 May 2018 11:06:54 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:55:24PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:00:27 -0400 "Stephen P. Molnar" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 05/10/2018 11:13 AM, Greg Wooledge

Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
Okay, it's my fault: I admit it. During the Base Only, Terminal-only install of Stretch, I clicked UTC instead of Local for the hardware clock time. Honestly, I thought the clock was set to UTC. Haven't installed any other OS on this system since Wheezy 5 years ago. So, now system time on Stretch i

Re: CD Burning Software

2018-05-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 Herb Garcia wrote: > I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software > that came with the build. Any suggestions? I use xfburn, the XFCE Desktop utility, but on an Openbox window manager only system. No problems installing or using. And t

Re: Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 19 May 2018 03:52:27 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 17:13:07 -0700 Patrick Bartek said: > > > I could use hwclock --set --date= with the --localtime > > option, etc., to correct this but is there an easier way? > > # dpkg-reconfigure tzd

Re: Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 May 2018 20:59:25 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 18 May 2018 at 17:13:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Okay, it's my fault: I admit it. During the Base Only, Terminal-only > > install of Stretch, I clicked UTC instead of Local for the hardware > &g

Re: Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:37:39 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Patrick Bartek writes: > > > I could use hwclock --set --date= with the --localtime > > option, etc., to correct this but is there an easier way? > > There is only one clock involved in this: the hardware cl

Re: Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 20 May 2018 22:42:24 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Sun, 20 May 2018 12:10:01 -0700 Patrick Bartek said: > > > On Sat, 19 May 2018 03:52:27 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 18 May 2018 17:13:07 -0700 Patrick Bartek s

Re: Correct: System Thinks Hardware Clock is UTC

2018-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 21 May 2018 09:03:47 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 12:15:05PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > Haven't > > > > installed any other OS on this system since Wheezy 5 years ago. > > Oh, good, then you can simply set the hardw

Re: installing 9.4 from the dvd's iso.

2018-06-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:07:46 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Generally speaking, a big hey y'all to the developers. > > All of my squawks about the wheezy installer have been addressed. Good to hear. However, I never had any problem with my custom install of Wheezy 5 years ago. Nor, for that matte

Re: installing 9.4 from the dvd's iso.

2018-06-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:57:27 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 11 June 2018 16:50:39 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:07:46 -0400 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Generally speaking, a big hey y'all to the developers. > >

Re: [Solved, largely] Re: Latest version of X not starting in buster

2018-06-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 20:19:15 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Jun 2018 at 12:06:24 +0200, Siard wrote: > > > Now in some local list, I've heard someone maintain that starting X > > with startx is very old, untested, deprecated, certainly in a > > systemd environment. A display manager would contro

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

2018-06-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400 Dave wrote: > I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer". > on this first menu i have full keyboard control. > > Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, > Advanced Options > > once the screen switches i loos

Re: trouble installing deb 9.4

2018-06-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:52:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote: > [snip] > > >> You can't mix UEFI and MBR. It's either one or the other. > > Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in

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