On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
I think we can agree that the Romans spoke Latin!
Actually, Latin was the official, legal language of Rome. The
previous conquests of Alexander the Great established the Koine
dialect of Greek as the "lingua franca" of the Ancient World. Koin
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:42:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > > or a non-Latin language,
> >
> > I
On 2020-03-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
>> > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
>> > or a non-Latin language,
>>
>> I think we can agree that the
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 12:42:17, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > > or a non-Latin language,
> >
> > I think we c
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > or a non-Latin language,
>
> I think we can agree that the Romans spoke Latin!
Err... Romanian is not
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > or an attachment was named using non-Latin characters.
> >
> > Is that non-Latin or non-ASCII?
>
> I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romania
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 06:31:29 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:03:55AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
> > client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
> ...
> > One approach
On Sat 28 Mar 2020 at 02:48:04 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote:
> On 28/03/20 1:22 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > (attaching a zero length file with the name using some special Romanian
> > characters to this mail)
>
> Interesting. It appears Thunderbird won't let me save that. Presumably
> because
Hi.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > or an attachment was named using non-Latin characters.
>
> Is that non-Latin or non-ASCII?
I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
or a non-Latin language, but your attachment really i
On 28/03/20 1:22 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> (attaching a zero length file with the name using some special Romanian
> characters to this mail)
Interesting. It appears Thunderbird won't let me save that. Presumably
because it's empty.
Also the list archive seems to have thrown it away.
But that
On Mar 27, 2020, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > > expected. What
On Mar 27, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
> > >
> > >
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 14:40:21, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:51:46AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Nice one, added. Wondering why it's not the default though...
>
> A small correction. It's "set rfc2047_parameters=true".
set rfc2047_parameters
is already sufficient (because i
Hi.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:51:46AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > expected. What do I do wi
On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >
> > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
> >
> >=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2MjMwLnBkZg==?=
>
> Read muttrc
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:03:55AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
...
One approach would be to get a mail account strictly for this purpose,
and set up a comple
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 18:29:38 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:20:15AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > (I presume that you know about "v", to list attachments, and that
> > attachments can be email-type entities on which you can use "v"
> > again. List digests are lik
to use
Evolution since it was included "for free". Any mailer that can display
HTML + Javascript inline would work, I suppose.
In ancient times I used Pegasus on Windows 3.1. When I switched to
Linux full time in early '98 I used Netscape Mail. I found it
cumbersome with a mult
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:20:15AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 03:03:55 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 06:47:55AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
extra step but means
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:44:14AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2MjMwLnBkZg==?=
This is not a PDF (it would be a very short one, mind you :)
I misspoke; I should have said "string" rather than "PDF". But I did
not discover how to get mutt to point me to the PDF file
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 04:39:10PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12020-03-26):
> > [3] I don't think it's really intentional. It's an unfortunate and
> >contagious antipattern, a bit like prions transmit Creutzfeld-Jacob.
> >But nowadays I suspect that some actors help it
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 03:03:55 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> a
Hi.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:26:30AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On 26/03/2020 00:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> > I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
>
hould be opened in your default pdf
> > viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opened in your
> > default browser.
>
> I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
>
>=?utf-8?
to...@tuxteam.de (12020-03-26):
> [3] I don't think it's really intentional. It's an unfortunate and
>contagious antipattern, a bit like prions transmit Creutzfeld-Jacob.
>But nowadays I suspect that some actors help its expansion because
>it helps their business interests. Or something
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:47:55PM CET, Nate Bargmann said:
> As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
> host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
> question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
> extra step but m
On Mar 26, 2020, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 07:38 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > As you said, the correct approach would be utilizing IMAP -- however,
> > whether or not there is IMAP access is entirely dependent on the
> > server's configuration. Offhand I don't know of any that _only_
>
On 26/03/2020 00:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is rath
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 07:38 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> As you said, the correct approach would be utilizing IMAP -- however,
> whether or not there is IMAP access is entirely dependent on the
> server's configuration. Offhand I don't know of any that _only_
> support
> POP3 these days; but there'
As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
extra step but means that I don't have to abandon Neomutt for an
inferior mail progra
attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
> > > viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opened in your
> > > default browser.
> >
> > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > expected. What do I d
t; > viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opened in your
> > default browser.
>
> I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
>
>=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2MjMwLnBkZg==?=
delete it
On Mar 26, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> [...]
> URLs: install urlview and press Ctrl-b to select the url you want (will
> be passed to your default browser)
Nice to know! Something new for the toolbox!
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On Mar 25, 2020, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> > I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> > Picking out and viewing the links a
in your default pdf
> >viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opened in your
> >default browser.
>
> I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
>
>=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2M
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opene
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:51:51 -0700
David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a
> > day I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an
> > attachment. Picking out
On Jo, 26 mar 20, 03:03:55, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometim
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:51:51PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
If you configure all your e-mail clients to leave the messages on the
server, you should be able to access the same e-mail server account
from multiple clients. Current clients using IMAP seem to work this
way (Thunderbird, App
On Wednesday 25 March 2020 23:03:55 Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and
On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult.
Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an
On 2/11/20 10:26 AM, Thomas George wrote:
> Obviously I can view html files with any of the browsers. It is not
> always convenient. If I save an interesting web page by right clicking
> on save as the result is a often a very long file name containing
> spaces. I save these html file
On Ma, 11 feb 20, 12:26:38, Thomas George wrote:
>
> It would be nice to have an html viewer which opens a file in the current
> directory with auto-completion of the initial word of the filename.
It's not clear where that "current directory" is, a shell, file manager,
e
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:26:38PM -0500, Thomas George wrote:
>
> file:///home/user/directory/long file name.html
>
> It would be nice to have an html viewer which opens a file in the current
> directory with auto-completion of the initial word of the filename.
>
> Is the
On 2/11/2020 6:26 PM, Thomas George wrote:
> Obviously I can view html files with any of the browsers. It is not
> always convenient. If I save an interesting web page by right clicking
> on save as the result is a often a very long file name containing
> spaces. I save these html file
Obviously I can view html files with any of the browsers. It is not
always convenient. If I save an interesting web page by right clicking
on save as the result is a often a very long file name containing
spaces. I save these html files in various directories according to
subject. if I
On Tuesday, 12 November at 15:40, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > >> I thought everybody just used a mailcap file and was fine.
> > >
> > > I do and have it setup to use w3m to deal with most HTML mail. Some
> > > does look better in a GUI program and that's wh
On Tue 12 Nov 2019 at 09:23:54 (-), Curt wrote:
> On 2019-11-08, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >
> >> I thought everybody just used a mailcap file and was fine.
> >
> > I do and have it setup to use w3m to deal with most HTML mail. Some
> > does look better in a
On 12-11-19, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-11-08, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >
> >> I thought everybody just used a mailcap file and was fine.
> >
> > I do and have it setup to use w3m to deal with most HTML mail. Some
> > does look better in a GUI program and that&
On 2019-11-08, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
>> I thought everybody just used a mailcap file and was fine.
>
> I do and have it setup to use w3m to deal with most HTML mail. Some
> does look better in a GUI program and that's why I do this.
>
Well, then
text/html; /usr/b
* On 2019 07 Nov 10:27 -0600, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-11-07, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >
> >
> > What I did was set up an account at my domain that I can "bounce" mail
> > from Neomutt and then fetch it via Evolution that is configured only for
> > t
* On 2019 07 Nov 19:12 -0600, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok, thanks -- so, iiuc, you have more than one email account, and you use one
> of those accounts to forward mail to the other machine.
Right, though it's just to another program on the same machine via
another email account, but that's th
On Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:40:48 PM Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2019 07 Nov 09:10 -0600, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 07, 2019 09:06:25 AM Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > A bit late...
> > >
> > > What I did was set up an account at my domain
> >
> > I don't understand wh
* On 2019 07 Nov 09:10 -0600, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 07, 2019 09:06:25 AM Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > A bit late...
> >
> > What I did was set up an account at my domain
>
> I don't understand what you mean by "domain" -- do you mean your ISP, your
> (local) LAN, or just
On 2019-11-07, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
>
> What I did was set up an account at my domain that I can "bounce" mail
> from Neomutt and then fetch it via Evolution that is configured only for
> that account. It worked well for those HTML/Javascript only mails I get
> on
th a registration
agent?
If the latter, how does that actually work -- I mean, for example, is an ISP
involved?
> that I can "bounce" mail
> from Neomutt and then fetch it via Evolution that is configured only for
> that account. It worked well for those HTML/Javascript on
A bit late...
What I did was set up an account at my domain that I can "bounce" mail
from Neomutt and then fetch it via Evolution that is configured only for
that account. It worked well for those HTML/Javascript only mails I get
on occasion. Since I use Gnome, I get Evolution "
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 04:31:35AM +, mick crane wrote:
I've settled on Roundcube, Dovecot, Sieve, getmail
Roundcube is what my old ISP was using for the webmail interface, and
I used it for almost a year. But I never thought of it as a package
for my desktop. And it is in the Debian arch
On 2019-11-04 23:22, Russell L. Harris wrote:
Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
(or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can point at
On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 09:43:00AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
Just to throw one more suggestion into the ring, I'm sure older versions of
kmail can do what you want, like the one in KDE 4.8.4 / Debian Wheezy (kmail
1.13.7).
The few times I have used KDE stuff it has been impressive. But
On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 01:13:10PM +, ? wrote:
How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/blob/master/ss/IMG_20191106_215916_resized_20191106_100052740.jpg
I did consider Gnus. My editor is Emacs, and ten or more years ago I
did run Gnus, for about a year.
On Wednesday, November 06, 2019 08:13:10 AM 황병희 wrote:
> > Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> > (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> > seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
Just to throw one mo
"Russell L. Harris" writes:
> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitla
"Russell L. Harris" writes:
> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitla
"Russell L. Harris" writes:
> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
How about Gnus? Below is example:
https://gitla
On 05/11/2019 05:57, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> For some reason which I do not immediately recall, I chose POP3 over
> IMAP the last time I had the option.
That would make sense. POP3 is best for when you want to download
everything for local processing, as you are doing.
IMAP makes more sense wh
getmail and maildir, but my last usage of
Thunderbird was ten years ago.
I should also say that I only suggested setting up a local IMAP server as a way
to let Thunderbird access your email. My smiley was because this might be
overkill solely in order to see emails with HTML content! But it'
* Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
>
> What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can poin
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 23:22:58 +
"Russell L. Harris" wrote:
> Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
> (or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
> seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
>
> Wha
t I only suggested setting up a local IMAP server
as a way to let Thunderbird access your email. My smiley was because
this might be overkill solely in order to see emails with HTML content!
But it's not actually that unreasonable, come to think of it.
I just had a quick look at this HOWTO
On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 04:10:17AM +, Mark Rousell wrote:
Set up a local IMAP server instead? :-)
I found a HOWTO:
https://www.linux.com/news/how-build-local-imap-server/
but I have not read though it.
Is it necessary to route all my mail through the local IMAP server?
Mail with getmail an
On 05/11/2019 03:04, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> I installed Thunderbird -- what a huge truck-load of stuff! But the
> configuration wizard would not allow me simply to point Thunderbird to
> the maildir to which getmail delivers incoming messages.
Thunderbird has *experimental* maildir (actually
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:04:57
> From: Russell L. Harris
> To: Jude DaShiell
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: auxiliary mail client for HTML
> Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 03:51:38 + (UTC)
> Res
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
urlscan and a macro to bring urlscan up once a link got highlighted would
help if you still want to use mutt or neomutt.
I am using urlscan. I would be happy to forward to you one or two
sample messages; each has a dozen links, and
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:22:58
> From: Russell L. Harris
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: auxiliary mail client for HTML
> Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 23:43:57 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Several times a week I receive a HTML email with numerous links. Mutt
(or neoMutt, which I am using until I upgrade my Debian installation)
seems not to be a good solution for such messages.
What is a decent, simple GUI client which I can point at my maildir
structure to read such messages and
Dan Ritter (12019-09-30):
> Anyway: you need a perl module to run perl CGI:
> libapache2-mod-perl2
This is not true at all.
To run a CGI, the web server does not need anything specific. CGI are
external programs following a specific convention (environment variables
and output). Running a CGI wri
Dave wrote:
> hello
>
> when a .pl file or .cgi file is clicked on to our server, apache is
> serving back a text code page, not html
>
> all of our sites were working under the old service Deb 4, our new
> Server Deb 9.x has a setting off.
>
> we have included a
hello
when a .pl file or .cgi file is clicked on to our server, apache is
serving back a text code page, not html
all of our sites were working under the old service Deb 4, our new
Server Deb 9.x has a setting off.
we have included a link to our http.conf file.
http://culser.com/ex/apache2
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 01:00:11PM -0600, Thomas D Dial wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > My bank offers a standardized protocol based on public key
> > cryptography.
[...]
> > No browser involved.
>
> Can you name the bank? It has annoyed me for bet
tc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them
> > > are
> > > going to remove HTML and/or CSS from their emails until something
> > > 'better'(2) comes along.
> >
> > Some banks have found something "better". Their emails contain a
> > l
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 02:49:41PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
I think "convenient" more than "pretty". (This idea stolen from Bruce
Schneier.)
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Hash: SHA256
Brad Rogers wrote:
> [...]
>
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
There's a certain elegance to amber-on-black...
-BEGIN PGP SIGN
seam. *None*
> > > of them are going to remove HTML and/or CSS from their emails
> > > until something 'better'(2) comes along.
> >
> > Some banks have found something "better". Their emails contain a
> > link which automatically opens a
On Thu 11 Jul 2019 at 07:26:00 (-0500), John Hasler wrote:
> Brad Rogers writes:
> > Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
> > ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
> > going to remove HTML and/or CSS from their e
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 02:49:41PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
And a certain value of "pretty".
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:31:54 +0200
wrote:
Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>That's where talking to people comes in.
By and large, people simply do not care.
In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
certain value of 'safe', obviously.
--
Regards _
/ ) "
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:26:00 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
Hello John,
>assume that everyone reads email in a browser, of course). They claim
>this is more secure.
They can claim it, but they're wrong. The safest, most secure way is to
send plain text, without any links at all.
Safer still; Neve
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 07:26:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Brad Rogers writes:
> > Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
> > ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
> > going to remove HTML and/or CSS fr
Brad Rogers writes:
> Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
> ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
> going to remove HTML and/or CSS from their emails until something
> 'better'(2) comes along.
Some banks have f
On 2019-07-11 16:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 15:52:56, John Crawley wrote:
On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without
exposing the recipient to attacks
gt; ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
> going to remove HTML and/or CSS from their emails until something
> 'better'(2) comes along.
But giving up is not an option.
> Don't forget, either, that most computer users simply don't care wha
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:03:34 +0200
wrote:
Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>enough to yell at the sender to fix his/her MUA.
Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
going to remove HTML and/or CSS f
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:10:16AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 11 iul 19, 15:52:56, John Crawley wrote:
[...]
> > A) Display html as-is, tags and all
> > B) Strip out the tags and display what's left, like html2text
> >
> > I think B) is the better opt
On Thursday 11 July 2019 02:52:56 John Crawley wrote:
> On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
> >> ...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and
> >> without exposing the recipient to attack
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 15:52:56, John Crawley wrote:
> On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
> > > ...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without
> > > exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply
On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without
exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply not following any web links would
be enough I'd have thought? Or are there some more s
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
>
> I was never trying to claim that it was OK to send messages as html - I
> always use plain text myself - but I thought there might be something to be
> said for user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without
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