Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-24 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 24 September 2011 16:11:26 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Are you sure /var/cache went smaller directly after cleaning browser > caches? Maybe you did something else... No. In every case I looked immediately after I had cleared the browser cache, and the size of /var/cache went down all

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 23. September 2011 schrieb Lisi: > On Friday 23 September 2011 20:06:15 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > I am pretty sure that browsers put the web cache into the home > > directory > > > of the user that uses it or /var/tmp. I.e.: > Mine were in /var/cache. At least, getting rid of the

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/23/2011 4:12 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Mostly I would say that on my machine the biggest disk space use of /var/log use is email. So I guess I would say if you are concerned about disk space then you might want to unsubscribe from debian-user. :-) This is about you and explaining your deskto

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >My desktop has 388M of files in /var/log from just random noise > >from using it as a desktop. That amount doesn't seem unusual to me > >nor does it stand out. > > Interesting. As I've stated in the past I don't use GUI/desktop > Linux, only headless s

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Recent versions of the sort-command understand the switch "-h" > which, I assume, was introduced just for the usage with du. On my > "testing" system the version number is 8.5 ("sort --version"). Not just for 'du' but for all of the commands such as 'ls' that accept the

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Lisi
On Friday 23 September 2011 20:06:15 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I am pretty sure that browsers put the web cache into the home directory > of the user that uses it or /var/tmp. I.e.: Mine were in /var/cache. At least, getting rid of the caches in all 3 of the browsers that I use with any regula

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > > Tux:/home/lisi# du -s -h /var/cache > > 2.3G/var/cache > > This is probably where your web browser is storing its cached > files. Go into browser options and clear the cache. May take a > while. Tell us how much space this frees

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Lisi
On Friday 23 September 2011 13:18:00 Darac Marjal wrote: > Oh, I'd actually missed the fact that "sort -h" exists and does exactly > what I'd been advocating. I assume this is a new feature that's (at > least) in sid. What a pip! Other way round, I'm afraid. I have just checked on my (testbed) Sq

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Darac Marjal wrote, on 09/23/11 11:53: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:12:17PM +0100, Lisi wrote: >> On Wednesday 21 September 2011 22:54:54 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> [snip] >> > [cut] > >> Tux:/home/lisi# du -hx --max-depth=1 / | sort -h >> sort: invalid option -- h >> Try `sort --help' for more

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 22 September 2011 12:15:42 Tom H wrote: >> To Lisi: have you found the large files/directories that bumped you up >> to 30G? (Do you still care? :) ) > > Yes, earlier today, but after you sent this email. ;-) Yes, I'm glad that the source

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:04:30PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2011 10:53:56 Darac Marjal wrote: > > As an aside, this is why I don't recommend using "du -h" with "sort -n". > > "du -h" is a great way to see where your space is being used, as it > > presents the sizes in human reada

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/22/2011 6:09 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Lisi wrote: Tux:/home/lisi# du -s -h /var/log 320M/var/log This needs to be addressed. I'd say something's wrong if you have 320MB of log files on a workstation. What? My desktop has 388M of files in /var/log from just rando

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Lisi
On Friday 23 September 2011 10:53:56 Darac Marjal wrote: > As an aside, this is why I don't recommend using "du -h" with "sort -n". > "du -h" is a great way to see where your space is being used, as it > presents the sizes in human readable format. However, "sort -n" sorts > numerically but critica

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:12:17PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 22:54:54 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > [snip] > [cut] > Tux:/home/lisi# du -hx --max-depth=1 / | sort -h > sort: invalid option -- h > Try `sort --help' for more information. > Tux:/home/lisi# du -hx --max-depth=

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Lisi wrote: > >Tux:/home/lisi# du -s -h /var/log > >320M/var/log > > This needs to be addressed. I'd say something's wrong if you have > 320MB of log files on a workstation. What? My desktop has 388M of files in /var/log from just random noise from using it as a deskt

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 22 September 2011 12:15:42 Tom H wrote: > To Lisi: have you found the large files/directories that bumped you up > to 30G? (Do you still care? :) ) Yes, earlier today, but after you sent this email. ;-) And yes, I still cared. I might have made the same mistake again if I hadn't fou

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:02:56PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > Tux:/var/log# du -h | sort -n > 1.4M./apache2 > 4.0K./news > 4.0K./ntpstats > 8.0K./exim4 > 12K ./fsck > 48K ./apt > 88K ./cups > 144K./clamav > 312K./installer/cdebconf > 330M. > 852K./installer >

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 22 September 2011 14:14:13 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2011 10:39 AM, Lisi wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > Tux:/home/lisi# du -s -h /var > > 2.9G/var > > Tux:/home/lisi# du -s -h /var/log > > 320M

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 22 September 2011 06:04:29 R. Clayton wrote: > When I have this problem, it's usually because I have too many kernel > versions. Look in /boot or do > > $ dpkg --purge linux-image > > I keep the latest and the previous versions around, although I wait until > the partition's full bef

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 22 September 2011 14:14:13 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'd trust the list members here more than Google hits, except maybe hits > on Debian Administration.  Even in that case many of the Google hits are > very old articles that may no longer apply. So would I. Considerably more. I just fe

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 22:54:54 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: [snip] > But the cleaning of the package cache only removed ~ 2.3 GB. And summing up > the above listed disk usage makes only appr. 10 GB. > So were do the other 20 GB come from? > I would like to see the output of > > du -hx --max

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2011 10:39 AM, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI workstation I'd think /var/cache or

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:04 AM, R. Clayton wrote: > > When I have this problem, it's usually because I have too many kernel > versions.  Look in /boot or do > >  $ dpkg --purge linux-image If it were "/boot" that were full, maybe. But it's "/" (I think) and a "/boot" of 30GB would have to have q

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread R. Clayton
When I have this problem, it's usually because I have too many kernel versions. Look in /boot or do $ dpkg --purge linux-image I keep the latest and the previous versions around, although I wait until the partition's full before culling the older versions, which happens during update. --

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Claudius Hubig
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >Hi, > >Claudius Hubig wrote, on 09/22/11 00:05: > >> b) check not only the size of specific directories as given above but >> the size of _every_ directory in /: >> >> # cd /; du -shcx * >> >> The "x" option makes du stay on the root filesystem, so it ignores > >In this

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hi, Claudius Hubig wrote, on 09/22/11 00:05: > b) check not only the size of specific directories as given above but > the size of _every_ directory in /: > > # cd /; du -shcx * > > The "x" option makes du stay on the root filesystem, so it ignores In this command the "x" is useless since * ex

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Claudius Hubig
Stan Hoeppner wrote: >On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > >> And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > >Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI >workstation I'd think /var/cache or /usr would be more likely, assuming >the problem is a hosed/misconf

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Lisi wrote, on 09/21/11 19:47: > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:46:27 Axel Freyn wrote: >> Hi Lisi, >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 04:39:45PM +0100, Lisi wrote: >>> On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > And I have taken in that /

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 20:19:30 Thierry Chatelet wrote: > If you have a basic fs, then gparted-live should do the job of resizing. Thanks, Thierry, As I hope you now know, this solved it for me. I clearly ought to have done that as soon as I had the problem, but I needed your prod. Lisi

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:46:27 Axel Freyn wrote: > Hi Lisi, > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 04:39:45PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > > > And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > >

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Axel Freyn
Hi Lisi, On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 04:39:45PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > > And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > > > > Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread S Scharf
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > > And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > > > > Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI > > work

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > > Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI > workstation I'd think /var/cache or /usr would be more likely, a

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 16:16:31 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: > > And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. > > Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI > workstation I'd think /var/cache or /usr would be more likely, a

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2011 9:14 AM, Lisi wrote: And I have taken in that /var/log is a likely culprit. Not necessarily. On a server /var/log is a likely culprit, but on a GUI workstation I'd think /var/cache or /usr would be more likely, assuming the problem is a hosed/misconfigured program. If the prob

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 14:54:03 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Qua, 21 Set 2011, Lisi wrote: > > So now things are working again, but I would still like to know what went > > wrong, > > and shall work through all the suggestions until either I solve > > what went wrong or I run out

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 14:27:47 Camaleón wrote: > As per the > keyboard layout on this kind of media, usually you can select it at boot > time from the menu. At the bottom there are some presets already made > (screen resolution, keyboard layout...) but you can change that values, > althoug

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qua, 21 Set 2011, Lisi wrote: So now things are working again, but I would still like to know what went wrong, and shall work through all the suggestions until either I solve what went wrong or I run out of things to try. We cannot guess, not with only the vague information you've given us.

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 14:27:47 Camaleón wrote: > Kmail is a very good MUA, there has to be a "switch" you can toggle on to > instruct that all messages are by default formatted as text and not > "html" or "auto". That setting uses to be under mail compositing > preferences, but I can't be

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 September 2011 13:26:56 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This thread has been going on too long Lisi.  Let's get this fixed > already.  :)  Run these commands to see if you've run out of free space > or run out of inodes: > > # df -h -x tmpfs > # df -i -h -x tmpfs Thanks, Stan. Your concern

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:05:38 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 20 September 2011 15:47:22 Camaleón wrote: >> Lisi, calm down and don't forget the good manners of sending plain text >> formatted e-mails ;-) > > Sorry, Camaleón. :-( I *never* turn HTML on. I have it unticked. I > simply don't know

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/20/2011 3:01 PM, Lisi wrote: My / does not contain /home, which is on its own large drive. It contains everything else. hda1 is /, hda2 is swap. My / has been trundling along at around 30% full for years. Now it has suddenly filled up completely. This thread has been going on too long

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Mark Neidorff
May I suggest the following. From the other posts you know that there is slack space on the drive (5% of the drive) that is reserved for the root user to be able to log in and get things back in order. How about this: reboot the system into single user mode and run fsck on the drive. First th

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Dom
On 20/09/11 21:01, Lisi wrote: large disk. It doesn't need to be normally! Once I have solved the keyboard problem, I'll have a look both using GParted and using a general purpose live CD. I'll ask about the keyboard problem on a British list rather than an international one. I am more likel

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Christopher Judd
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 16:01:09 Lisi wrote: > ... > > Thanks, all of you. :-) > > Unfortunately my original email, now I reread it, was less that totally > informative. :-( > > My / does not contain /home, which is on its own large drive. > > It contains everything else. > > hda1 is

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 21:21:24 Bob Proulx wrote: > Lisi wrote: > > My / does not contain /home, which is on its own large drive. > > hda1 is /, hda2 is swap. > > > > My / has been trundling along at around 30% full for years. Now it has > > suddenly filled up completely. The most likely ex

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi wrote: > My / does not contain /home, which is on its own large drive. > hda1 is /, hda2 is swap. > > My / has been trundling along at around 30% full for years. Now it has > suddenly filled up completely. The most likely explanation is that I > accidentally copied a large directory, say,

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 20:19:30 Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 20 September 2011 16:31:26 Lisi wrote: > > I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root > > directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. > > This is causing me problems. (

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 16:31:26 Lisi wrote: > I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root > directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. > This is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!) > > I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 15:47:22 Camaleón wrote: > Lisi, calm down and don't forget the good manners of sending plain text > formatted e-mails ;-) Sorry, Camaleón. :-( I *never* turn HTML on. I have it unticked. I simply don't know why KMail sometimes does, but I don't always know that it

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread lina
On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:30, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:48:46 +0800, lina wrote: > >> Sorry I have a quasi-problem with her, so hope won't mind I following my >> questions here, > > That's why I hate partitioning :-) I hate partition too but sometimes... You know. > > Yep, I know

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:48:46 +0800, lina wrote: > Sorry I have a quasi-problem with her, so hope won't mind I following my > questions here, That's why I hate partitioning :-) Yep, I know there is LVM but I'm a bit reluctant in adding a second logical layer of complexity when it comes to hard d

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Lina, lina wrote: Sorry I have a quasi-problem with her, so hope won't mind I following my questions here, My / partition is also on the edge of saturation. Do the find with -xdev option (keeps it within the same filesystem). But how do I know which files are in / partition? the /tmp /

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread lina
Sorry I have a quasi-problem with her, so hope won't mind I following my questions here, My / partition is also on the edge of saturation. But how do I know which files are in / partition? the /tmp /var are on other partitions. This is for sure. / != /root correct? root@debian:/home/lina# cd /

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread steef
Lisi wrote: I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have,on my root directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. This is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!) I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know. I deserve everything I've got. But now that I ha

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Andrew McGlashan writes: > Lisi wrote: >> I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know. I deserve everything I've >> got. But now that I have been given my just deserts, can any kind >> soul come to my rescue? I would be so grateful I may, of course, >> just have to reinstall. :-( >

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Lisi, Lisi wrote: I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know. I deserve everything I've got. But now that I have been given my just deserts, can any kind soul come to my rescue? I would be so grateful I may, of course, just have to reinstall. :-( A few areas to have a quick look at (if the

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Darac Marjal writes: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:31:26PM +0100, Lisi wrote: >> I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root >> directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. This >> is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!)

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:31:26 +0100, Lisi wrote: Lisi, calm down and don't forget the good manners of sending plain text formatted e-mails ;-) > I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root > directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. > This

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:31:26PM +0100, Lisi wrote: >I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root >directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. This >is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!) > >I have no backup of my

Re: 100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi Lisi, On 20/09/2011 16:31, Lisi wrote: I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have,on my root directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. This is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!) I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know. I deserve everyth

100% used / file system. Help!

2011-09-20 Thread Lisi
I have accidentally filled something, that I shouldn't have, on my root directory, and have now got a 100% usage of the disk containing my /. This is causing me problems. (Now there's a surprise!!) I have no backup of my /. Yes, I know. I deserve everything I've got. But now that I have be