Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
en, write, and close the file. The file content indicates that it was written shortly after the script began. I understand that Vincent Lefevre suspects these discrepancies to be a bug in the ext4 driver. I rather suspect that ext4 is ok and that we observe the effects of some other glitch which cause

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 09:41:23PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:45:15 -0400 > > > linux caches file system pages in memory > > how does one force to refresh this memory with a command? What do you mean by "refresh"? What's in the cache is always the "freshest" version:

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:45:15 -0400 > linux caches file system pages in memory how does one force to refresh this memory with a command? Thanks!

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread Marc Auslander
On 4/29/2022 10:20 AM, duh wrote: On 4/27/22 11:05 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Having skimmed over a number of the replies, and really not being qualified, may I just toss out a probably useless ideas to use the "sync" command. Looking at the 'man sync' shows at the bottom several variant

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread duh
On 4/27/22 11:05 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: Another option might be that your system's time was "reset". This shouldn't happen, but it can happen if your NTP was down, the machine got out-of-sync over time and you restart the NTP se

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
of a possible hardware problem, but they were common and unrelated. They are triggered by Wine, which is executed by my script (as I also test MPFR under Wine). My bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1010209 (either the kernel is really doing silly things, or th

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
written back to the actual FS. When I did tail -n 30 mpfrtests.*.out; ll mpfrtests.*.out this had the effect to look at the entries in the current directory. For some reason (a bug occurring under some particular conditions?), the dirty state due to the data written above to the VFS was ignor

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > and one with > openat(AT_FDCWD, "….out", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_APPEND, 0666 > <... openat resumed>) = 3 > about 30 seconds later. Oh. So the script was still running when the file finally appeared to lt, tail, and ll ? Is the text snippet " <... openat resumed>" l

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 22:45:09 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Another option might be that your system's time was "reset". > This shouldn't happen, but it can happen if your NTP was down, the > machine got out-of-sync over time and you restart the NTP server at > which point it may(!) decide to jump the cl

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Another option might be that your system's time was "reset". > This shouldn't happen, but it can happen if your NTP was down, the > machine got out-of-sync over time and you restart the NTP server at > which point it may(!) decide to

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
my shell history for 6 years. This was the first time I noticed such an issue. But if this is a kernel bug, it may be a new bug. > If so, you could set up a script that sometimes reproduces, and run it > in a loop until you get the erroneous behavior. I'll try to do that. > Of c

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 03:11:22PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > So, perhaps there were no issues with openat, but when reading > the directory, the file could not be found because some internal > structures might have been incomplete. If so, this is a bug at the kernel level, perha

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
e RAM. I was thinking of a potentially specific FS cache. But perhaps this is not related to the CPU at all. It could be that a potential bug (either in the kernel code or in the compiler) would affect some system calls but not others. So, the ">> $out" done in the script would work, bu

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > the issue [...] is probably unlikely to occur again. In this case we will hardly be able to find an explanation. > However, there's also the fact that the birth time was 30 seconds > ahead of the actual file creation, while there was no lockup. Yes, your observatio

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
ible that the file would not show up in stat(1) > or ls(1) but the script can happily do > ... >> "$out" > Each of these lines is supposed to do a name lookup of the file. unless there is some caching bug. The script is likely to run on the same CPU core, so that the file

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? Vincent Lefevre wrote: > The script doesn't do that. The file is created with > echo "* $fqdn ($(${1:-.}/config.guess) / ${line#PROC:})" > "$out" > [.

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 14:18:58 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > > actual creation. Is this a bug? > > I doubt it. > Note that a file's atime/mtime/ctime is a property of the file itself, > whereas "appe

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 12:47:53 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis > wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > > wrote: > > > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 19:01:26 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > It looks as if the file indeed does not exist when you inquire it. > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? The script doesn't do that. The file is created w

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:31:02PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > Thank You > > We dont use WIFI. > > Desktops > > We do > connect with cable to the WWW. > Also mouse and keyboard is with cable. > OK: in many ways that makes it easier. I would still suggest the firmwa

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > wrote: > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its >> actual creation. Is this a bug? >> > > Only experimentation can really bac

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > actual creation. Is this a bug? > Only experimentation can really back me up on this, but consider the following: Every time you use the "|" operator or t

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > This script creates a file mpfrtests.cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr.out > very early. But the first attempts to look at this file failed: It looks as if the file indeed does not exist when you inquire it. So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed sh

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:32:23 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > Firmware is executable code that runs inside of a device (such as a > network interface) rather than in your CPU. > > Many modern devices require some non-free firmware in order to perform > their duties correctly. This is *especial

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:41:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > What does mean > > firmware is free > firmware is not free? Firmware can be free OR non-free. Firmware for wireless interfaces is ALMOST ALWAYS non-free, because of proprietary secrets that the wireless chip manufacturer is f

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 07:18:48PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 12:58:48 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael: Best version, if you do not want to have administration work, would be Debian-11 (which is bullseye). You should choose "s

file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its actual creation. Is this a bug? I know that such issues can be observed with NFS, but here this is just a local ext4 filesystem. Here are the details. I started a shell script: cventin:~> ps -p 667828 -o lstart,

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:27:39PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > What is firmware? > Do I need it? > Is it dangerous? Firmware is executable code that runs inside of a device (such as a network interface) rathe

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > > > Thank You. > > > > We do backup eve

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:27:39PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > What is firmware? > Do I need it? > Is it dangerous? Firmware is executable code that runs inside of a device (such as a network interface) rather than in your CPU. Many modern devices require some non-free firmware in order t

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > _

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 07:18:48PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > >

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Brian
On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > We do backup ev

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Brian
On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > We do backup every evening. > > > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do d

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello Sophie, > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > > > Thank You. > > > > We do backup every evening. > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on > > CD? > > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 12:58:48 CEST schrieb Schwibinger Michael: Best version, if you do not want to have administration work, would be Debian-11 (which is bullseye). You should choose "stable", which is well tested and does not have much changes in the future. Of course you will chose the

AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Schwibinger Michael
09:55 An: Schwibinger Michael Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 11:35:38 CEST schrieben Sie: If you have no important data, a fresh installation will do the best. Do

AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-25 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good morning Thank You Is the best solution to destroy the system download LIVE CD Debian 11 64 LXDE and install with ext3? Regards Sophie Can ext3 files burned on CD and transported to Ubuntu and WIN PCs? Good morning Thank You Is the best solution to destroy the system downl

Re: how comes bug reports are processed after 10 minutes?

2022-03-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Mar 2022 at 08:49:12 (+0100), Harald Dunkel wrote: > apparently it takes about 10 minutes between filing a bug report (no > attachments) and sending the confirmation EMail. Thats quite a long > time. Imagine you have to forward Debian's bug number to your own > in-hous

Re: how comes bug reports are processed after 10 minutes?

2022-03-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 Mar 2022 at 07:25:55 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:49:12AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > apparently it takes about 10 minutes between filing a bug report (no > > attachments) and sending the confirmation EMail. Thats quite a long > > t

Re: Report a bug against which package - unattended-upgrades / apt / dpkg ??

2022-03-22 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Mon 21 Mar 2022 at 15:07:45 (+), Dr. Alex Sheppard wrote: > > On 21/03/2022 14:02, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Dr. Alex Sheppard wrote: > > So, unless anyone can explain otherwise, I think there is a bug to > > report against unattended-u

Re: how comes bug reports are processed after 10 minutes?

2022-03-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:49:12AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > apparently it takes about 10 minutes between filing a bug report (no > attachments) and sending the confirmation EMail. Thats quite a long > time. Imagine you have to forward Debian's bug number to your own > in-

how comes bug reports are processed after 10 minutes?

2022-03-22 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, apparently it takes about 10 minutes between filing a bug report (no attachments) and sending the confirmation EMail. Thats quite a long time. Imagine you have to forward Debian's bug number to your own in-house BTS. There are about 10^6 bug reports in Debian's BTS. M

Re: Report a bug against which package - unattended-upgrades / apt / dpkg ??

2022-03-21 Thread David Wright
one of them and thereby breaking DNS on a > > > client's network. > > > > > >     Is this a bug in unattended upgrades, or a bug in apt or dpkg? Here > > > is > > > an extract from my unattended-upgrades.log to illustrate. It might help to chec

Re: Report a bug against which package - unattended-upgrades / apt / dpkg ??

2022-03-21 Thread Dr. Alex Sheppard
On 21/03/2022 14:02, Dan Ritter wrote: Dr. Alex Sheppard wrote: Hi,     Unattended upgrades ended up removing some of the packages it was was going to upgrade ... bind9 being one of them and thereby breaking DNS on a client's network.     Is this a bug in unattended upgrades, or a b

Re: Report a bug against which package - unattended-upgrades / apt / dpkg ??

2022-03-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dr. Alex Sheppard wrote: > Hi, > >     Unattended upgrades ended up removing some of the packages it was was > going to upgrade ... bind9 being one of them and thereby breaking DNS on a > client's network. > >     Is this a bug in unattended upgrades, or a bug in

Report a bug against which package - unattended-upgrades / apt / dpkg ??

2022-03-21 Thread Dr. Alex Sheppard
Hi,     Unattended upgrades ended up removing some of the packages it was was going to upgrade ... bind9 being one of them and thereby breaking DNS on a client's network.     Is this a bug in unattended upgrades, or a bug in apt or dpkg? Here is an extract from my unattended-upgrades.l

Bug 895378 has been fixed on Ubuntu, will it get to Debian?

2022-03-19 Thread Richmond
This bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895378 sky2: sky2: did not recover correctly after waking up from S3 seems to be fixed on Ubuntu here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1798921 Will this fix get to Debian? I guess it will go up to kernel

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 3/12/22, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:19:52 +1100 Charlie wrote: Discovered that when I looked for the mailing list on the net. I dare not say googled because there is some controversy about IKWYM, but in most ci

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Mar 2022 at 16:02:25 (+), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:51:03 -0400 > Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > I remember very early on where there was at least one headline that > > said Google was considering court action over the use of its name as a > > verb (copyright, trademar

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 11:26 AM mick crane wrote: > On 2022-03-13 16:02, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:51:03 -0400 > > Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > > > Hello Cindy, > > > >> said Google was considering court action over the use of its name as a > > > > Against who? I mean, since t

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread mick crane
On 2022-03-13 16:02, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:51:03 -0400 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: Hello Cindy, said Google was considering court action over the use of its name as a Against who? I mean, since the term was used by everyone (for certain values of everyone), short of suing t

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:51:03 -0400 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: Hello Cindy, >said Google was considering court action over the use of its name as a Against who? I mean, since the term was used by everyone (for certain values of everyone), short of suing the *entire* population, what did they expec

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/12/22, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:19:52 +1100 > Charlie wrote: > >> Discovered that when I looked for the mailing list on the net. >> I dare not say googled because there is some controversy about > > IKWYM, but in most circles that word is still the 'go to' one as

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:19:52 +1100 Charlie wrote: Hello Charlie, > Thanks Brad, You're welcome. > Discovered that when I looked for the mailing list on the net. > I dare not say googled because there is some controversy about IKWYM, but in most circles that word is still the

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 15:13:05 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >I don't think so. Control-V works correctly (insert text from the >clipboard) in other applications, and in other parts of claws-mail, >such as the compose window and preference menu. I looked through Each part of Claws Ma

Re: Times change [was: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?]

2022-03-12 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 13 March 2022 01:21:57 EDT to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 09:19:52AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:04:55 + > > > > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:47:57 +1100 > > > Charlie wrote: > > > > > > Hello Charlie, > > > > > > >On Su

Times change [was: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?]

2022-03-12 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 09:19:52AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:04:55 + > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:47:57 +1100 > > Charlie wrote: > > > > Hello Charlie, > > > > >On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 > > >Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > >> https://lists

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/3/22 5:47 am, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hello Bret, I won't send a return receipt, but will just say this doesn't work for me? Charlie Try this URL https:

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/3/22 5:47 am, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hello Bret, I won't send a return receipt, but will just say this doesn't work for me? Charlie I may have mistyped

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:04:55 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:47:57 +1100 > Charlie wrote: > > Hello Charlie, > > >On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 > >Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > Hello Bret, > > >

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 20:44:15 + Brad Rogers wrote: > >What I get is the entry being edited closes down, and I am back to > >the address book window. > > It's possible you may have, inadvertently, set up a keyboard shortcut > to perform the action you're seeing. The default for 'close addre

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:47:57 +1100 Charlie wrote: Hello Charlie, >On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 >Bret Busby wrote: > >> https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > Hello Bret, > > I won't send a return receipt, but will just say this doesn't > work f

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hello Bret, I won't send a return receipt, but will just say this doesn't work for me? Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:09:23 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Out of interest, are you aware of the Claws mail users mailing list? > > https://lists-claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Yes, thank you, I am aware of it. Since this is a Debian package, and might result in a bug

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 12:23:15 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >What I get is the entry being edited closes down, and I am back to the >address book window. It's possible you may have, inadvertently, set up a keyboard shortcut to perform the action you're seeing. The default for 'clos

Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/3/22 3:23 am, Charles Curley wrote: I have hit a problem with claws-mail. When entering a new entry into the address book, Control-V does not work as I expect. What I expect is that the text in the clipboard will be inserted into the current field at the cursor location. What I get is the

Claws-mail Address Book Bug?

2022-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
I have hit a problem with claws-mail. When entering a new entry into the address book, Control-V does not work as I expect. What I expect is that the text in the clipboard will be inserted into the current field at the cursor location. What I get is the entry being edited closes down, and I am ba

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 08, 2022, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Before I retired I spent decades in customer and engineering support. > > Became familiar clashing desires and corner cases. > > I wasn't looking at X needing a DM, but rather that if the DE {MATE in my > > case} was going to be useful it had to start [pre

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/08/2022 03:10 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Before I retired I spent decades in customer and engineering support. Became familiar clashing desires and corner cases. I wasn't looking at X needing a DM, but rather that if the DE {MATE in my case} was going to be useful it had to start [preferably

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/08/2022 10:45 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:40:02AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? Most definitely not. X doesn't need the DM to run.

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Tixy
sness and lack of preparation. > > What is demonstrated is not a "dependency bug" but an unwillingness > to learn from the past and plan for the future. > I totally agree. Somehow after all these years Richard Owlett hasn't ended up in my kill file, but this is the final straw. -- Tixy

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:40:02AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. > Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? Most definitely not. X doesn't need the DM to run. Actually there are folks out there tha

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 09:06:27 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 08:40:02 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: [..] > > "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. > > Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? > > Last paragraph

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread David Wright
; TIA > > > > 1. Probably you don't have a display manager. Mate uses light display > > manager, and it is configured here: > > > > /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service > > > > But there is a script or procedure for configuring it. Probably just > > install lightdm. > > "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. > Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? Last paragraph of: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/04/msg01009.html Cheers, David.

Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

2022-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
emd/system/display-manager.service But there is a script or procedure for configuring it. Probably just install lightdm. "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. Does that demonstrate a dependency bug?

Re: Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread Patrick Dunford
Ok I will take this matter up with the application developers thanks for your assistance to date. On 29/01/22 06:10, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 2022-01-28 11:36, Patrick Dunford wrote: It is not relevant whether the issue occurs in other applications because they all use the file open dialogs

Re: Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-28 11:36, Patrick Dunford wrote: It is not relevant whether the issue occurs in other applications because they all use the file open dialogs in ways that are specific to their application which the end user has no control over and therefore it cannot be tested for If it doesn't oc

Re: Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Jan 2022 at 05:36:25 (+1300), Patrick Dunford wrote: > On 29/01/22 05:16, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On 2022-01-28 11:10, Patrick Dunford wrote: > > > Which is the name of the package relating to the file open > > > dialog to use in a bug report? > &g

Re: Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread Patrick Dunford
:10, Patrick Dunford wrote: Which is the name of the package relating to the file open dialog to use in a bug report? I think it depends on the application :) Do you see it in other applications? If so, you can figure out what GUI toolkit/environment it is gtk, qt, gnome, kde. Otherwise

Re: Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-28 11:10, Patrick Dunford wrote: Which is the name of the package relating to the file open dialog to use in a bug report? I think it depends on the application :) Do you see it in other applications? If so, you can figure out what GUI toolkit/environment it is gtk, qt, gnome

Package name to report bug with KDE file open dialog

2022-01-28 Thread Patrick Dunford
Hello I am using debian bookworm with kde and have noticed a bug in an application which is using a file open dialog. The problem only occurs in bookworm and is not present when using the same combination of kde and software on a system running bullseye. Which is the name of the package

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 dec 21, 05:31:31, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/18/2021 08:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 18 dec 21, 07:00:56, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > Please demonstrate this by showing us the actual run of apt-file as well > > > > as the output of > > > > > > > > dpkg -L b

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-21 Thread Curt
On 2021-12-13, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Further investigation of the Debian 11 filesystem shows that > /usr/share/bibletime/docs does not exist. > That's probably because the handbook and howto in bullseye reside in /usr/share/doc/bibletime-data/bibletime/ according to the results of my brief

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/18/2021 08:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 18 dec 21, 07:00:56, Richard Owlett wrote: Please demonstrate this by showing us the actual run of apt-file as well as the output of dpkg -L bibletime-data At ~100 kB and > 1300 lines, too big for a news group. Also I'm up against a

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 18 dec 21, 07:00:56, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Please demonstrate this by showing us the actual run of apt-file as well > > as the output of > > > > dpkg -L bibletime-data Care to provide these as well? > richard@debian-11:~$ su > Password: > root@debian-11:/home/richard# dpkg

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/18/2021 04:05 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 14 dec 21, 04:20:00, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/13/2021 08:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2021-12-13 12:18 (UTC-0600): I reinstalled bibletime and xiphos. Using bibletime I installed Bible, concordance, etc. F1 and F2

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 dec 21, 04:20:00, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/13/2021 08:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Owlett composed on 2021-12-13 12:18 (UTC-0600): > > > > > I reinstalled bibletime and xiphos. > > > Using bibletime I installed Bible, concordance, etc. > > > F1 and F2 do NOT display the app

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Dec 2021 at 04:20:00 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/13/2021 08:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Owlett composed on 2021-12-13 12:18 (UTC-0600): > > > > > I reinstalled bibletime and xiphos. > > > Using bibletime I installed Bible, concordance, etc. > > > F1 and F2 do NOT dis

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-14 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
hat case AND if something like localepurge is installed, maybe there's a potential bug that needs addressed on one end or the other. On the "maybe not" side, I went ahead and installed bibletime on Bookworm. Nothing at all was purged on the four above lines. BUT: Maybe somethi

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/13/2021 08:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2021-12-13 12:18 (UTC-0600): I reinstalled bibletime and xiphos. Using bibletime I installed Bible, concordance, etc. F1 and F2 do NOT display the appropriate help files.

Bug#694068: Info received (wireless fail after stretch^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hbuster^H^H^H^H^H^Hbullseye installation)

2021-12-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 8:25 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/13/2021 01:43 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > Le 13/12/2021 à 19:18, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >> [SNIP] > > apt-file search bibletime show that package bibletime-data contains a > > handbook and howto subdirectory in > > > > /usr/share/do

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:24:31 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > > Le 13/12/2021 à 19:18, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >> [SNIP] > > apt-file search bibletime show that package bibletime-data contains > > a handbook and howto subdirectory in > > > > /usr/share/doc/bibletime-data > > NOT TRUE when

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Dec 2021 at 19:24:31 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/13/2021 01:43 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > Le 13/12/2021 à 19:18, Richard Owlett a écrit : > > > [SNIP] > > apt-file search bibletime show that package bibletime-data > > contains a handbook and howto subdirectory in > > > > /usr/

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime

2021-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-12-13 12:18 (UTC-0600): > I reinstalled bibletime and xiphos. > Using bibletime I installed Bible, concordance, etc. > F1 and F2 do NOT display the appropriate help files. > Are you s

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/13/2021 01:43 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 13/12/2021 à 19:18, Richard Owlett a écrit : [SNIP] apt-file search bibletime show that package bibletime-data contains a handbook and howto subdirectory in /usr/share/doc/bibletime-data NOT TRUE when running Debian 11 in southwest Missouri USA.

Re: BUG: Debian 11 version of bibletime - was [Re: Problems with "Bible Time" and "Xiphos"]

2021-12-13 Thread Erwan David
t. [On Debian 10 system it exists with sub-directories .../handbook and .../howto .  F1 and F2 works there.] How do I correctly file a bug report? TIA apt-file search bibletime show that package bibletime-data contains a handbook and howto subdirectory in /usr/share/doc/bibletime-data

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