Re: Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/22 16:28, David Christensen wrote: On 2/11/22 12:34, Thomas Anderson wrote: Hello friends, I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an entirely new system: different motherboard, different CPU (Intel instead of AMD), Ram, video card, everything. I would like

Re: Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/22 12:34, Thomas Anderson wrote: Hello friends, I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an entirely new system: different motherboard, different CPU (Intel instead of AMD), Ram, video card, everything. I would like to upgrade my system, and ideal case, this

Re: Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Ritter composed on 2022-02-11 15:52 (UTC-0500): > Thomas Anderson wrote: >> I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an entirely >> new system: >>... intel ... > This will usually mostly work. Things to think about: ... > - you'll need to install different video

Re: Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Anderson wrote: > I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an entirely > new system: > > different motherboard, different CPU (Intel instead of AMD), Ram, video > card, everything. > > I would like to upgrade my system, and ideal case, this would simply work. I >

Re: Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-02-11 21:34 UTC+0100, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an > entirely new system: I would guess it would work, with some minor adjustmenst being necessary. Typically, all needed kernel modules for hardware support are available and

Plop in Debian install HDD into entirely new system

2022-02-11 Thread Thomas Anderson
Hello friends, I was curious what would happen if I threw my server HDD, into an entirely new system: different motherboard, different CPU (Intel instead of AMD), Ram, video card, everything. I would like to upgrade my system, and ideal case, this would simply work. I think I have done

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Jul 2021 at 11:16:42 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 27/07/21 7:14 pm, Jupiter777 wrote: > > I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. > > > > I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me: > > > >   Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ > > > > But

Re: encrypt/lvm issue during install.... [WAS: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Jul 2021 at 14:22:52 (+0100), Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 13:31 +0100, Tixy wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 07:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:05:54PM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > > > > so loop-with-no-exit went like: > > > > > > > > > > > > --

Re: encrypt/lvm issue during install.... [WAS: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-28 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 13:31 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 07:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:05:54PM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > > > so loop-with-no-exit went like: > > > > > > > > > -- installer recognized the disk, OK > > > > > > -- did the 1gb /boot

Re: encrypt/lvm issue during install.... [WAS: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-28 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 07:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:05:54PM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > > so loop-with-no-exit went like: > > > > > > -- installer recognized the disk, OK > > > > -- did the 1gb /boot ext2 non-encrypted configured , OK /dev/sda7 > > > > --

Re: encrypt/lvm issue during install.... [WAS: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:05:54PM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > so loop-with-no-exit went like: > > > -- installer recognized the disk, OK > > -- did the 1gb /boot ext2 non-encrypted configured , OK /dev/sda7 > > -- 150gb partition, planned to be / with everything in it, >recognized by

Re: encrypt/lvm issue during install.... [WAS: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Jupiter777
On 2021-07-27 12:53 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 27 Jul 2021 at 11:55:32 -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: On 2021-07-27 06:10 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 7/27/21 12:14 AM, Jupiter777 wrote: hello, I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. I see that I can take screenshots

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Richard Hector
On 27/07/21 7:14 pm, Jupiter777 wrote: hello, I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me:   Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ But /var/log is not on the bootable  usb I am using ... Where are the screenshots? 

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Jul 2021 at 11:55:32 -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > > > On 2021-07-27 06:10 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > On 7/27/21 12:14 AM, Jupiter777 wrote: > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. > > > > > > I see that I can take

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Hello-World
t. documentation/documenting is invaluable; by that token, I certainly don't want to mess it up by uploading , in this case, pics of debian install issues into , let say, ttf-mscorefonts-installer folder how can I start a new folder/project/sub-section or whatever i

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:55:32AM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: [...] I can't help you with your install problem: too few details to venture a try. But: > Also, thank you for sharing the https://screenshots.debian.net/ > > Do you know how I can use it? > > I mean: when I click on 'Upload' it

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Jupiter777
On 2021-07-27 06:10 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 7/27/21 12:14 AM, Jupiter777 wrote: hello, I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me:   Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ But /var/log is not on the bootable 

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/27/21 12:14 AM, Jupiter777 wrote: hello, I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me:   Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ But /var/log is not on the bootable  usb I am using ... Where are the

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 01:14:36AM -0600, Jupiter777 wrote: > > > hello, > > I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. > > I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me: > > Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ > > > But /var/log is not on the bootable usb

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Stella Ashburne
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 7:14 AM > From: "Jupiter777" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: location of screenshots during debian install > > > Where are the screenshots? I like to use them for troubleshooting? > I'm sorry to ask you

location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Jupiter777
hello, I am in the middle of installing buster 10.10.x on my computer. I see that I can take screenshots as the dialog boxes tell me: Screenshot Saved as /var/log/ But /var/log is not on the bootable usb I am using ... Where are the screenshots? I like to use them for

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-05 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 05, 2021 08:44:26 PM David Wright wrote: > On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > If a device is sold on

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily > > enough to know the model

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-05 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily > enough to know the model number of the card. Many "identical" > models are sold with various different

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-05 Thread David Wright
r Broadcom B54xx), but > > I don't know how it works, nor whether it works in the same way > > as one for the p54usb would. > > > > > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet > > > them, or maybe even suggesting that something like a re

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
suggesting that something like a requirement that at least one >> > other person attest that an installation image worked for them (on the >> > target >> > hardware). >> >> AIUI the Debian Install System Team build the Debian installer, and >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread rhkramer
; > them, or maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement that at > > least one other person attest that an installation image worked for them > > (on the target hardware). > > AIUI the Debian Install System Team build the Debian installer, and > the aforementioned

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread Brian
rement that at least one > > other person attest that an installation image worked for them (on the > > target > > hardware). > > AIUI the Debian Install System Team build the Debian installer, and That's certainly correct. The effort put into this deserves to be better ap

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 10:54:14 (+), Leandro neto wrote: > I volunteer to be [ ] a mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers > but I don't know about programming leandro AIUI we're not talking about mirrors, but about building the software that might eventually be mirrored. Cheers,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread David Wright
uld. > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet them, > or > maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement that at least one > other person attest that an installation image worked for them (on the target > hardware). AIUI the Deb

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread Leandro neto
I volunteer to beca mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers but I don't know about programming leandro Enviado via UOL Mail _ Assunto: Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] De: rhkra...@gmail.com Enviado em: 3 de março de 2021 12:37

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-04 Thread Curt
On 2021-03-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: >> I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small >> team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian >> images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 06:15:03 PM Brian wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 03:18:25 PM Brian wrote: > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread Brian
t; https://www.debian.org/distrib/ > > > > What's the problem? > > I thought the problem was as described in this from Brian: > > Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] > From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org) > To: debian

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread rhkramer
m was as described in this from Brian: Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Fri Feb 26 13:41:40 2021 ... A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The probl

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:27:42 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 21:01:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote: [...] > > > > "+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian installer that > > > > comes along and is uploaded to unofficial? > > I was under the impression that "The Debian

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: > I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small > team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian > images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing something like > a wiki where any Tom, Dick or

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-03 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > No. Providing a reasonable explanatory text

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-02 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-03-02 23:29, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > "Many

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-02 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > > non-free firmware to function properly. This

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > > in the standard installation

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread Brian
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 11:29:57 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread Brian
On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 10:23:51 +, David Goodenough wrote: > How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required > non-free firmware? That's a very tricky one to give a definitive answer to. It possibly depends on the quality and quantity of research done by the user. Howerever,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > in the standard installation images, due to Debian's free software > ideals. If the network hardware

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread Celejar
[Fixed top-posting.] On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:23:51 + David Goodenough wrote: > On Monday, 1 March 2021 09:29:57 GMT Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread David Goodenough
How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required non-free firmware? The only route that seems to be given by this wording is that they install (or try to install) the system using the official image, and then have to work out for themselves what does not work, and from that

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-03-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > in the standard installation images, due to Debian's

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 14:27:24 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > > > Brian wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-28 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 + Brian wrote: > On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > > Brian wrote: > > > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-28 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-28 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:41:40 + Brian wrote: ... > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is > advertised. Yes, I know - if a site search is

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-27 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:49:58PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page.

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread Dan Ritter
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 21:15:31 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is > advertised. Yes, I know - if a site

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 13:59:38 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > > > onto a sticky issue which

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-26 Thread Anssi Saari
Andrei POPESCU writes: > Try installing in expert mode (if the image boots), as far as I recall > there was an option to enable and use backports. Thanks. Well, the referenced LWN discussion mentioned tethering and indeed, plugging in my phone and enabling USB tethering resulted in a detected

Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

2021-02-26 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > > onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes > > > > (a) Debian should be a

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 25 feb 21, 18:30:55, Anssi Saari wrote: > > But what if someone needs a newer kernel than 4.19 too? My chosen HW > needs kernel 5.1 for wifi and 5.9 for ethernet plus FW from Intel and > Realtek. And no, I don't want to install testing or unstable. Or Ubuntu. > > I figured I'll install

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes > > (a) Debian should be a free distribution. If you're holding a >Debian "CD" [1] on your hands,

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 21:05:00 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > IL Ka wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
Anssi Saari (a...@sci.fi) wrote: > Henning Follmann writes: > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > > > Please take the time to read

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread Anssi Saari
Henning Follmann writes: > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site. I

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > >

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > >

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 February 2021 02:23:22 deloptes wrote: > IL Ka wrote: > > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian > > installation guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to > > this wiki to newbies. > > newbies use ubuntu :) Yeah, but it doesn't take long to get over

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > > Take care: this stick will have very strange partitioning. I am preaching against this partition table layout since years. deloptes wrote: > newbies use ubuntu :) ... which eventually switched to a neater layout in the 20.10 ISOs with only one partition table hack

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread deloptes
IL Ka wrote: > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation > guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to > newbies. newbies use ubuntu :)

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-02-24 14:36, IL Ka wrote: I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to Debian. My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that needs non-free firmware" I see in

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Weaver
On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > IL Ka wrote: >> >> >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to >> >> Debian. >> >> My idea was to install Debian, and

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > > IL Ka wrote: > >> > >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to > >> Debian. > >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. > > This is

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Weaver
On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > IL Ka wrote: >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to >> Debian. >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. This is quite possible. >> This is the third question about "how to install

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Dan Ritter
IL Ka wrote: > > I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to > Debian. > My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. > > This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that > needs non-free firmware" I see in this list

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Brian
On Thu 25 Feb 2021 at 01:36:58 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > > >

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread IL Ka
> > Please do not do that. > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 08:49:32PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > Hello. > Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" > from here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please do not do that. You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-02-24 09:47, M.R.P. zensky wrote: Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but Here I am

Re: Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread IL Ka
Hello. Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:48 PM M.R.P. zensky wrote: > Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the > net with wifi. I have

Debian install Question

2021-02-24 Thread M.R.P. zensky
Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but Here I am confused about what iso file I want. I am also

Re: Debian Install CD, locks up computer system.

2021-01-14 Thread Felix Miata
Joe composed on 2021-01-14 17:25 (UTC): > Windows does not contain any provision for running any > other operating system but itself. But, unless something changed very recently, it still retains the ability to read and transfer control to the PBR of an alien partition (i.e. chainload to Grub).

Re: Debian Install CD, locks up computer system.

2021-01-14 Thread Joe
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:20:44 +0100 Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le mercredi 13 janvier 2021 à 16:19:40-0500, brian.h...@hotmail.com a > écrit : > > I am being run around in circles trying to get assistance. I am > > being redirected by individuals and WEB pages having "ALL THE > > ANSWERS" and

Re: Debian Install CD, locks up computer system.

2021-01-14 Thread Leandro neto
I am haven the same problem I found a hidden file :0 debian magic cookie. Ruined everything mine Enviado via UOL Mail Assunto: Re: Debian Install CD, locks up computer system. De: p...@debian.org Enviado em: 14 de janeiro de 2021 8:21 Para: brian.h

Re: Debian Install CD, locks up computer system.

2021-01-14 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2021 à 16:19:40-0500, brian.h...@hotmail.com a écrit : > I am being run around in circles trying to get assistance. I am being > redirected by individuals and WEB pages having "ALL THE ANSWERS" and not > needing to know the facts. > > It is clear that I have encountered a

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-21 Thread Brian
On Mon 21 Sep 2020 at 08:45:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 19 sep 20, 20:41:05, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > Best to keep it as simple as possible. > > > > Keep to what we have? Glad you agree. > > Well, having GNOME installed

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 21 Sep 2020 at 07:30:20 (-0400), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:45 AM Andrei POPESCU > > wrote: > > On Sb, 19 sep 20, 20:41:05, Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > > Best to keep it as simple as possible. > > > > > >

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:45 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 19 sep 20, 20:41:05, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > Best to keep it as simple as possible. > > > > Keep to what we have? Glad you agree. > > Well, having GNOME installed after

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 19 sep 20, 20:41:05, Brian wrote: > On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Best to keep it as simple as possible. > > Keep to what we have? Glad you agree. Well, having GNOME installed after un-checking it is quite the opposite of intuitive in my opinion, so

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-19 Thread Leslie Rhorer
On 9/19/2020 6:12 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 18 sep 20, 11:00:11, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience (own as well as assisting other newcomers), users coming from Windows or Mac will be surprised by the mere existence of different options here. Most Windows users are

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 18 sep 20, 11:00:11, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I don't know for sure, but one suggestion I'd make is to move that first > > option > > (whatever it said, something like Default debian desktop) to be the last > >

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 18 sep 20, 11:00:11, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I don't know for sure, but one suggestion I'd make is to move that first > option > (whatever it said, something like Default debian desktop) to be the last > option and change the wording, something like: "[for advanced users:] [can be

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-18 Thread Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > On Friday, September 18, 2020 09:21:21 AM Brian wrote: >> On Fri 18 Sep 2020 at 07:32:46 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > Right now, if you un-check GNOME, but leave "Debian desktop" checked, >> > you get a mystery desktop, which usually but not always turns out to >>

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-18 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, September 18, 2020 09:21:21 AM Brian wrote: > On Fri 18 Sep 2020 at 07:32:46 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Right now, if you un-check GNOME, but leave "Debian desktop" checked, > > you get a mystery desktop, which usually but not always turns out to > > be GNOME, which is the thing

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 18 Sep 2020 at 07:32:46 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:42:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > The function of the menu is crystal clear. > > > > Activating as it as presented a user gets the ticked option. > > > > Unticking the option gets the user nothing. > > > >

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-18 Thread rhkramer
Thank you! On Friday, September 18, 2020 08:12:34 AM Brian wrote: > It provides the default DE (and can be preseeded with tasksel/first) :

Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

2020-09-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 18 Sep 2020 at 04:36:08 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I guess what is not clear to me includes (and I did some googling while > > > taking > > > a break from yardwork): > > > > > > * does task-desktop provide some functionality that would not be > > > installed > > > if the

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