On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:06:52 -0400 (EDT), p3qwes...@hushmail.com wrote:
>
> I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to say thank you to all of
> you who offered some guidance - pressure of obligations in may
> areas cut into my time somewhat. I have decided to give Debian a
> miss yet again. I
I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to say thank you to all of
you who offered some guidance - pressure of obligations in may
areas cut into my time somewhat. I have decided to give Debian a
miss yet again. I really is a bit too cumbersome. I am not new to
computing with over 30 years exper
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:51:17AM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:19:05 -0800
"Dr. Ed Morbius" wrote:
Hello Dr.,
There are so many wins of LCD over CRT that I'd see little to no reason
to stick with a CRT display.
Finance is often the reason people don't
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:02:48 +
Roger Leigh wrote:
Hello Roger,
Please don't Cc: me, I'm subscribed to the list.
> Another reason is colour reproduction. Until recently, and even now
Doubtless, there are many reasons for not changing kit. I nearly said
upgrading, but in the case of colour
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:51:17AM +, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:19:05 -0800
> "Dr. Ed Morbius" wrote:
>
> Hello Dr.,
>
> > There are so many wins of LCD over CRT that I'd see little to no reason
> > to stick with a CRT display.
>
> Finance is often the reason people don't w
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:19:05 -0800
"Dr. Ed Morbius" wrote:
Hello Dr.,
> There are so many wins of LCD over CRT that I'd see little to no reason
> to stick with a CRT display.
Finance is often the reason people don't want to change their existing
kit. Some people simply can't afford to upgrade.
on 17:58 Thu 03 Mar, p3qwes...@hushmail.com (p3qwes...@hushmail.com) wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I need help please.
>
> Because I'd like to move to Debian, I have tried the Debian 6 Live
> CD. However, because the screen refresh rate is fixed on 60hz,
For CRTs, that's an issue, especially if you have flo
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:58:12 +, p3qwestra wrote:
> I need help please.
Next time try to give a more descriptive "subject" line ;-)
> Because I'd like to move to Debian, I have tried the Debian 6 Live CD.
> However, because the screen refresh rate is fixed on 60hz, I cannot
> proceed.
(...)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:58 AM, wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I need help please.
>
> Because I'd like to move to Debian, I have tried the Debian 6 Live
> CD. However, because the screen refresh rate is fixed on 60hz, I
> cannot proceed. I am unable to change the rate and leaving it on
> that setting means I
On Jo, 03 mar 11, 17:58:12, p3qwes...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I need help please.
>
> Because I'd like to move to Debian, I have tried the Debian 6 Live
> CD. However, because the screen refresh rate is fixed on 60hz, I
> cannot proceed. I am unable to change the rate and leaving it on
>
Hi.
I need help please.
Because I'd like to move to Debian, I have tried the Debian 6 Live
CD. However, because the screen refresh rate is fixed on 60hz, I
cannot proceed. I am unable to change the rate and leaving it on
that setting means I get migraine. My graphics card is a 256MB
NVIDIA 76
* Mr Geo (25-07-2007):
>
> Ok...So I've tried to run=20
Such kind of output (with obviously more information about your system,
gathered and proceeded by "reportbug" tool) is a possible bug, you just
can report to relevant package. Then experienced developers will help you
if they will find ways.
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On 07/24/07 21:10, Oleg Verych wrote:
> 25-07-2007, Mr Geo:
>
>> I've just started to use Linux.
>
> Congratulations!
>
>> So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal
>> base system.
>
> OK, lets assume you don't scare of an
Ok...So I've tried to run
apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-input-synaptics \
xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xorg
and it appear like this...
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree...Done
xserver-xorg-video-nv is already t
25-07-2007, Mr Geo:
> I've just started to use Linux.
Congratulations!
> So I try to install Debian 4.0 into Power= Book G4 with the minimal
> base system.
OK, lets assume you don't scare of any shell scripting and text console
tools first, otherwise it will be very hard to yourself and to help
Mr Geo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into
> PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system.
> After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to
> load into GUI environment(startx). The error was like this:
>
> Fatal server error:
> C
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On 07/24/07 19:45, Mr Geo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into
> PowerBook G4 with the minimal base system.
> After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to
> load into GUI environm
Hi,
I've just started to use Linux. So I try to install Debian 4.0 into PowerBook
G4 with the minimal base system.
After installation, I've tried to reboot the PC but it was unable to load into
GUI environment(startx). The error was like this:
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborti
Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
Hi there,
Im a newbie at debian,
You may find the NewbieDOC documentation project wiki useful -
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/
just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD.
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Installing_Debian_on_a_small_partition
I got an ADSL connectio
Raquel wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:04:02 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you really want to use webmin, use the upstream version (see
my other messages on the topic), but it is much better to
actually learn the system's interface and where everything is
located via the
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:04:02 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you really want to use webmin, use the upstream version (see
> > my other messages on the topic), but it is much better to
> > actually learn the system's interface and where everything is
> > located via the comm
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:19:12PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
Hi there,
Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL
connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do:
- Generating traffic usage (download/u
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:01:30PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan
to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you
will have to compile it yourself.
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:19:12PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL
> connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do:
>
> - Generating traffic usage (download/upload)
Not sure.
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:01:30PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan
> >to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you
> >will have to compile it yourself.
> How come?
>
In short, webmi
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:11:58AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> >- Generating traffic usage (download/upload)
> >
> vnstat
> >I heard that Webmin (www.webmin.com) is a tool that combine a few debian
> >pacakages so easier to manage them. Any suggestion?
> >
> I fin
Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan
> > to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you
> > will have to compile it yourself.
> How come?
The webmin package has been orphan
Andrei Popescu wrote:
The next release of Debian will *not* include Webmin. Unless you plan
to stick with 3.1 (sarge) even after the release of 4.0 (etch), you
will have to compile it yourself.
How come?
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Phillipus Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL
> connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do:
> - Firewall (I was looking at ://www.turtlefirewall.com)
Shorewall. No GUI, bu
- Generating traffic usage (download/upload)http: wget & screentorrents: www.torrentflux.comdc: dctcand many more.- List the program /
port / destination used in daily/weekly/monthly basis (just in case
that 1 of my mates use kazaa or something that we decided to blocked)Install mrtg/cacti/ntop
Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
- Generating traffic usage (download/upload)
vnstat
I heard that Webmin (www.webmin.com) is a tool that combine a few debian
pacakages so easier to manage them. Any suggestion?
I find webmin to be pretty useful, but a few caveats:
- the stable package is a bit o
Hi there,
Im a newbie at debian, just installing debian 31r0a from a DVD. I got an ADSL
connection with a crappy modem. Anyhow, I want to make a box that can do:
- Generating traffic usage (download/upload)
- List the program / port / destination used in daily/weekly/monthly basis
(just in case
lmyho wrote:
>Hi Hex! Tahnks for the info! I am downloading It's big! Will have to
>read and get to know it and use... hope it's good! Also any othe ridea?
>
> By the way I responded to Thierry about my graphic card info but forgot to
> send to the mailing list, here it the info o
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 09:09:58PM -0800, lmyho wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am totally newbie to Debian. I heard a lot about it's so good, so
> I tried to install it on my Dell Dimension 4550, with Win XP home,
> using mini CD install through network. The installation seemed OK,
> ho
lmyho wrote:
Hi Kent, Thank you!!
A few "list etiquette" items (which have nothing to do with your
questions, but are good things to know):
1) On this list, private replies are discouraged unless the postings go
off-topic. Instead, replies should go to the list, so that others can
add in the
Hi everyone! Thanks for all your help and encoraging.
My X problem solved. It seems to be the async. problem between the X stuff I
installed and my Debian kernel - I upgraded the system to testing and installed
x-window stuff but didn't update the kernel I had from the stable version
install.
Hi Hex! Tahnks for the info! I am downloading It's big! Will have to read and get to know it and use... hope it's good! Also any othe ridea? By the way I responded to Thierry about my graphic card info but forgot to send to the mailing list, here it the info of my card: Just copi
Well I've been told that in the event that the Debian installer fails to properly detect and configure the graphics card/monitor simply copying Knoppixes X config over the Debian one should clear things up so perhaps giving that a try would be a good idea ;-) :-) ...you can download Knoppix for fre
lmyho wrote:
Dear all,
I am totally newbie to Debian. I heard a lot about it's so good, so I
tried to install it on my Dell Dimension 4550, with Win XP home, using
mini CD install through network. The installation seemed OK, however
it was all text sceen during and after the installation.
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 00:09, lmyho wrote:
Dear all,
I am totally newbie to Debian. I heard a lot about it's so good,
so I tried to install it on my Dell Dimension 4550, with Win XP home,
using mini CD install through network. The installation seemed OK,
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 00:09, lmyho wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am totally newbie to Debian. I heard a lot about it's so good,
> so I tried to install it on my Dell Dimension 4550, with Win XP home,
> using mini CD install through network. The installation seemed OK,
> however it was all text
Dear all, I am totally newbie to Debian. I heard a lot about it's so good, so I tried to install it on my Dell Dimension 4550, with Win XP home, using mini CD install through network. The installation seemed OK, however it was all text sceen during and after the installation. I didn't f
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:42:16PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:59:22PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 08:33:00PM -0700, Scott wrote:
> > > The latest official Debian Sarge package for Firefox is for v 1.04!
> > > http://security.debian.org/pool/
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:59:22PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 08:33:00PM -0700, Scott wrote:
> > The latest official Debian Sarge package for Firefox is for v 1.04!
> > http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
>
> Myself, I don't use Crapfox, and the
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 03:11:44PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I meant what I said. We have OGo connecting to a previously-existing
> mysql database, for mailshots etc. It works perfectly well. I can only
> speak from my experience.
You mean a mail merge?
--
Chris.
==
Reproduction if d
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 09:52 +0100, Juraj Fedel wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:22:02AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Clarification:
> > When etch transitions from Testing to Stable, all the packages
> > (including, by that time, OpenOffice.org 2) will stay in etch/Stable.
>
> Is there any know
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:29:35AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 13:46 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Backporting from security fixes in Mozilla or Firefox are to heavy
> > so they have considered to use 1.07 and rename it for Sarge.
>
> I thought that in those cases they a
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:22:02AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Clarification:
> When etch transitions from Testing to Stable, all the packages
> (including, by that time, OpenOffice.org 2) will stay in etch/Stable.
Is there any known timeline when this my happen?
Juraj Fedel
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> HOW can a newbie come to TESTING or UNSTABLE?
I did. Testing, specifically, and ran into all the trouble one would
expect.
> A newbie which come to "our" website, WILL download STABLE.
False. There are more examples than just I. Unless, of course, by
"our" you mean some other web site than D
Am 2005-11-17 08:48:33, schrieb loos:
> 1. Normal = most of them does just that.
I do not know ONE newbie which is using TESTING or UNSTABLE.
> 2. Debian unstable is just as good as a stable Fedora, etc.
My Development Workstation was broken several times in the last 4
month. There was no chan
Hi Antony,
Am 2005-11-15 11:11:02, schrieb Antony Gelberg:
> It's not that simple. A lot of newbies dive into testing or unstable
> because they "have" to have the newest stuff, then they don't know what
> to do when their system breaks.
HOW can a newbie come to TESTING or UNSTABLE?
A newbie w
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 22:41 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 22:43 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
>
> > > So it's inefficent. So what?
> >
> > Because in 6 months or a year, when the size of that quick-and-dirty
> > DB grow
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 22:43 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> > So it's inefficent. So what?
>
> Because in 6 months or a year, when the size of that quick-and-dirty
> DB grows bigger than expected, and becomes vital to the organization
> (o
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 22:23 +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:11 +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> >
> >>Steve Lamb wrote:
> >>
> >>>Andy Streich wrote:
[snip]
> No, it's not, and that's not what I said. I was pointing out that
> encouraging newbies to us
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 22:43 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 01:26:50AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
>
> > I think users need to get back to learning a little. I was asked by a
> > customer yesterday why Thunderbird doesn't capitalise the H in Hello
> > like Outlook (Word) does.
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 13:46 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2005-11-12 21:59:22, schrieb Marc Wilson:
>
> > Myself, I don't use Crapfox, and therefore don't pay any attention to its
> > Debian versioning, but if normal Debian practices are being followed,
> > security fixes are backported to s
Am 2005-11-12 17:05:54, schrieb Antony Gelberg:
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > http://www.debian.doc/releases might help you understand how releases
> > work in Debian.
>
> Oops. s/doc/com
| s/com/org/
Greetings
Michelle
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Am 2005-11-13 11:32:16, schrieb Antony Gelberg:
> Bruce Hohl wrote:
> > OpenOffice 2.0 is an important piece of software.
>
>
>
> Why?
Because you will need biger CPU's and more memory in your
computer which will make the manufacturer richer. :-P
Greetings
Michelle
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Am 2005-11-14 23:27:29, schrieb Antony Gelberg:
> Michael Marsh wrote:
>
> > In short, the patched version of Firefox in sarge is *not* 1.0.7, so
> > calling it 1.0.7 would be a mistake.
> >
>
> Um, as I've said elsewhere in this thread, it is a newer upstream
> version than 1.0.4. Not sure exa
Am 2005-11-12 21:59:22, schrieb Marc Wilson:
> Myself, I don't use Crapfox, and therefore don't pay any attention to its
> Debian versioning, but if normal Debian practices are being followed,
> security fixes are backported to stable, rather than new and untested
> versions being packaged for sta
Am 2005-11-13 03:43:00, schrieb Oliver Lupton:
> > Firefox is currently @ 1.07 and every "point" release since 1.0 has been
> > due to security issues.
>
> Following the link you gave, I get to a file such as
> mozilla-firefox_1.0.4-2sarge5_i386.deb, I'm not entirely sure what the
> '-2' part mea
> > newbie - unstable, that's normal. If you like it that way. And they will
> > learn a lot.
>
> Why is it normal for a newbie to use unstable? It's usually an initial
> period of "look at me, I'm using Debian without having to use their
> cruddy old software" followed by a cry for help, either
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 01:26:50AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I think users need to get back to learning a little. I was asked by a
> customer yesterday why Thunderbird doesn't capitalise the H in Hello
> like Outlook (Word) does. I was too speechless to suggest just typing
> properly.
>
>
--- loos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 9- # chmod 777
> > /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice
> > This step seemed but soffice was installed
> > with mode 000 and therefore could not be executed
> > (started).
>
>
> Bad idea, there are a lot of steps between 000 and
777
> Don't ever u
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 04:52:55PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Carl Fink wrote:
> > What the Access-like features of OOo 2 let one do is create and manipulate
> > and use databases WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME LEARNING HOW.
>
> Ah... you mean inefficiently and incorrectly. Got it.
Ah, you'r
Carl Fink wrote:
> What the Access-like features of OOo 2 let one do is create and manipulate
> and use databases WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME LEARNING HOW.
Ah... you mean inefficiently and incorrectly. Got it.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:33:37PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
[OpenOffice.org's new database-front-end capabilities]
> I'd still like to know what, in business terms if you like, you can do
> with this, that you cannot do with e.g. LAMP.
It's a weird question. There's nothing there you can't
\
>
>
> 9- # chmod 777 /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice
> This step seemed but soffice was installed with mode 000
> and therefore could not be executed (started).
Bad idea, there are a lot of steps between 000 and 777
Don't ever use 777
It is a program you don't need write p
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 18:25 -0800, Bruce Hohl wrote:
> > > It's not that simple. A lot of newbies dive into testing or
> unstable
> > > because they "have" to have the newest stuff, then they don't know
> > > what to do when their system breaks.
>
> > So it's Debian's *fault* that newbies whine wh
> > It's not that simple. A lot of newbies dive into testing or unstable > > because they "have" to have the newest stuff, then they don't know > > what to do when their system breaks. > So it's Debian's *fault* that newbies whine when they make no effort > to read the Debian web site? Gentlemen
Em Ter, 2005-11-15 às 16:44 -0600, Ron Johnson escreveu:
> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:11 +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > Steve Lamb wrote:
> > > Andy Streich wrote:
> > >
> > >>latest and greatest of everything. What I did find surprising after
> > >>reading
> > >>this list for a while was that
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:11 +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andy Streich wrote:
> >
> >>latest and greatest of everything. What I did find surprising after
> >>reading
> >>this list for a while was that stable meant not only really stable but also
> >>really slow release c
Andy Streich wrote:
> latest and greatest of everything. What I did find surprising after reading
> this list for a while was that stable meant not only really stable but also
> really slow release cycle. Okay, that's the price you pay for "really
> stable."
Why be so hung up on release
On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 05:50:18PM -0800, Andy Streich wrote:
> On Monday 14 November 2005 09:21 am, s. keeling wrote:
> > Stability is what Debian was trying to produce when Murdock & friends
> > began. That's still a cornerstone value. Considering all the
> > downstream distributions based on D
On Monday 14 November 2005 09:21 am, s. keeling wrote:
> Stability is what Debian was trying to produce when Murdock & friends
> began. That's still a cornerstone value. Considering all the
> downstream distributions based on Debian, that strategy is working well.
I agree. But as a relative new
Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kent West wrote:
> >
> > No. Stable does not get new packages, other than bug/security fixes and
> > the like.
>
> And that my friends, is Debian's biggest flaw when it comes to the
> desktop user. It's also why I'll never run stable
It is not a flaw. It's a desi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 01:39:07PM -0200, loos wrote:
> Em Dom, 2005-11-13 ?s 17:19 -0500, Carl Fink escreveu:
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> > > Carl Fink wrote:
> >
> > > >Why use a distro if you're going to have to manually install things
> > > >anyway?
> > >
Em Dom, 2005-11-13 às 17:19 -0500, Carl Fink escreveu:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> > Carl Fink wrote:
>
> > >Why use a distro if you're going to have to manually install things anyway?
> > >
> > That might make sense if we were just installing an OS but everyon
Mark Crean wrote:
> I also run SuSE and have done for a few years now. It is normally every
> bit as stable as Debian Stable and security updates are often faster as
> well.
This of course feeds into the misconception of Stable. It's like "free
software" where people had to constantly say "Fr
Jon Dowland wrote:
> I think quite a lot of people are very happy to use stable on desktop
> systems. Most people who aren't are not typical desktop users
> themselves, but geeks or enthusiasts who want new-fangled stuff. For
> day-to-day office tasks and the like, a rock-solid base, where the
> la
Scott wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
>>Scott wrote:
>>>And then OpenOffice.0rg 3, Firefox 2.0, GIMP 3.0, GNOME 2.16, and KDE
>>>4.0 will be released within the following month discouraging many from
>>>sticking with Debian stable
>>You still misunderstand. The point is there is no one stand
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Carl Fink wrote:
> >Why use a distro if you're going to have to manually install things anyway?
> >
> That might make sense if we were just installing an OS but everyone
> certainly has different needs in applications.
That's why I s
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Carl Fink wrote:
BTW, I think Sarge is more than just "usable" for desktops right now.
What I fear as a long-time Debian user is that it'll have plenty of time
to BECOME obsolete, because Etch won't be released until 2010 or
something. If Etch goes frozen by June of next
Hugh Lawson wrote:
steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
i used 10 years ago wp5.1. never found a better
Get dosemu working, find your old wp5.1 install floppies, and you can use
wp5.1 under Linux. See:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/linux.html
thanx!
steef
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--- Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 01:09:10PM +, Antony
> Gelberg wrote:
>
> > Version 1 has perfectly adequate support for
> > linking to databases.
>
> Where you presumably mean "barely usable support if
> you're already a database expert"? At least that's
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 02:36:05AM -0700, Scott wrote:
> Marc Wilson wrote:
> > if normal Debian practices are being followed, security fixes
> >are backported to stable, rather than new and untested versions being
> >packaged for stable.
>
> Now that you mention it, Ubuntu used to do this the
On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 16:50 -0700, Scott wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> >
> >
> >>3- OpenOffice 2 was recently added to Debian Unstable.
> >>Is it likely that OpenOffice 2 will be added to
> >>Debian Stable. If so when?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No. Stable does not get new packages, other than bug/securit
steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i used 10 years ago wp5.1. never found a better
Get dosemu working, find your old wp5.1 install floppies, and you can use
wp5.1 under Linux. See:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/linux.html
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Carl Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 01:09:10PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
In the time that you spent composing that post, you could have searched
the list archives and learnt how to install it. I doubt you could have
created any impressive documents in that time.
Why use a dis
On 11/13/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Brockway wrote:
> > It's normal for the Debian security team to backport changes into the
> > existing code base in Debian. Thus I expect the Firefox 1.04 to be the
> > vanilla source 1.04 plus backported security fixes. This is a _good_
> >
Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Scott wrote:
>
>>How about some more noise.
>>
>>The full and correct URL please?
>>
>>Is this perhaps what you meant?: http://www.debian.org/doc/
>
>
> http://www.debian.org/releases
>
Thanks! I'd actually seen that before but had forgotten where. :-) It's
nice to rev
Antony Gelberg wrote:
>
> Help yourself out by reading the debian-security-announce list.
That one I subbed to when I noticed it was there.
>Also
> available on Usenet as linux.debian.announce.security (yes, the words
> are swapped which is confusing). Also read follow-ups and other
> discussi
BTW, I think Sarge is more than just "usable" for desktops right now. What
I fear as a long-time Debian user is that it'll have plenty of time to
BECOME obsolete, because Etch won't be released until 2010 or something. If
Etch goes frozen by June of next year, the stable-only policy makes perfect
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 01:09:10PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Version 1 has perfectly adequate support for linking to databases.
Where you presumably mean "barely usable support if you're already a
database expert"? At least that's what *I* have.
> In the time that you spent composing tha
Scott wrote:
>Kent West wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>>3- OpenOffice 2 was recently added to Debian Unstable.
>>>Is it likely that OpenOffice 2 will be added to
>>>Debian Stable. If so when?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>No. Stable does not get new packages, other than bug/security fixes and
>>the like.
>>
Original Message
Subject:Re: A few general questions from a Debian newbie
Resent-Date:Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:40:36 -0600 (CST)
Resent-From:debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:22:44 -0500
From: Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 02:42:25AM -0700, Scott wrote:
> Robert Brockway wrote:
> > It's normal for the Debian security team to backport changes into
> > the existing code base in Debian. Thus I expect the Firefox 1.04 to
> > be the vanilla source 1.04 plus backported security fixes. This is
> >
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 04:50:50PM -0700, Scott wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> > No. Stable does not get new packages, other than bug/security fixes
> > and the like.
>
> And that my friends, is Debian's biggest flaw when it comes to the
> desktop user. It's also why I'll never run stable
I think q
Scott wrote:
[snip]
What Debian (or SOMEBODY please) needs is a new "stable" release at
least once a year with security updates, bugfixes AND *major* software
package (i.e 1.5 to 2.0, 3.6-4.0) updates to that release as the next
release is being simultaneously developed.
Wait, there is one I c
[Discussion on Debian version numbers and backporting]
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Scott wrote:
Perhaps, but it's also confusing to anyone coming to Debian from another
Linux distro. Let's just hope they *properly* update the user agent
string..
I say, that approach is fine, but why not show the ri
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