Re: Getting started with mmdebstrap / chroot Operation not permitted.

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 21:40:13) > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > > Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47) > > > having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to > > > try out `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The > > > ultimate goal of my use of these

Re: Getting started with mmdebstrap / chroot Operation not permitted.

2020-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Linux-Fan writes: Jonas Smedegaard writes: [...] Being such a simple invocation, I thought I must have made some rather obvious mistake, because my command very much follows the manpage. I had thought that the complex part would only come afterwards :) I recommend to read section "MODES"

Re: Getting started with mmdebstrap / chroot Operation not permitted.

2020-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Jonas Smedegaard writes: Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47) > Hello list members, > > having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out > `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my > use of these utilities is to arrive at an image

Re: Getting started with mmdebstrap / chroot Operation not permitted.

2020-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47) > Hello list members, > > having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out > `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my > use of these utilities is to arrive at an image suitable for booting an

Getting started with mmdebstrap / chroot Operation not permitted.

2020-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Hello list members, having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my use of these utilities is to arrive at an image suitable for booting an armhf SBC (Banana Pi M2+ EDU). Existing (overly

Re: Debian Getting started

2019-06-26 Thread andreimpopescu
On Vi, 17 mai 19, 22:04:32, Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi Hi Paul, > Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing > something about getting started for a while.  So decided to just get on > and do it. > > http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/ > &

Re: Debian Getting started

2019-05-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
good effort, and a much needed type of promotion thanks On 5/17/19 2:04 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: Hi Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing something about getting started for a while.  So decided to just get on and do it. http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/ I

Debian Getting started

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing something about getting started for a while.  So decided to just get on and do it. http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/ I am trying to write this from my own view point of being new and explain how I got started and how

Re: Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator

2015-05-23 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 08:24 +0300, Jarle Aase wrote: Hi all, Sorry for the noise. I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads regarding this problem, and aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev solved it. That sounds like a dependency problem, be sure to file

Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator

2015-05-22 Thread Jarle Aase
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I have put aside some time this weekend to see what I can do with Qt Quick. However, when I try to compile the skeleton hello world application Qt Creator makes when I create a new project, I get this error: 08:01:47: Running steps for

Re: Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator

2015-05-22 Thread Jarle Aase
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, Sorry for the noise. I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads regarding this problem, and aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev solved it. Jarle On 05/23/2015 08:15 AM, Jarle Aase wrote: Hi, I have put

Is this a bug against ledgersmb? (was: getting started with ledgersmb)

2014-05-03 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 02 May 2014 16:22:10 Thierry Chatelet wrote: Hi list Trying to install ledgersmb from sid I got error 404: no such file..., when doing localhost/ledgersmb/setup.pl I read the Debian doc a bit more and I found in file: /usr/share/doc/ledgersmb/faq.html the following: About

getting started with ledgersmb

2014-05-02 Thread Thierry Chatelet
Hi list I installed ledgersmb from sid package. I tried to connect to it using localhost:ledgersmb/setup.pl as stated in many tutorial.I got 'not found'. All tutorials I found are for ubuntu, none for debian. Anyway, I tried changing the ownership of /usr/share/ledgersmb as stated in those

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-24 23:34:44, schrieb Martin Marcher: aptitude install xen-linx-image-2.6-xen-amd64 no i'm not joking, those with the hypervisor and ioemu and i was set, I had the 2 or 3 minor updates since etch release and all of those kernels worked fine. I am using the

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-24 21:02:02, schrieb Ted Hilts: Also, I was talking about kernel versions higher than yours (up in the twenties where yours was 18) and 32 bit. But whether the CPU is 32 bit Sorry, but I am using the latest linux-image-2.6.23-1-xen-686 from Unstable/Sid which I have tried to

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-25 12:11:35, schrieb Martin Marcher: Any specific reason you need a newer kernel? (Again) I wouldn't do that on a server machine. Also xen patches are always a couple of versions behind - at least in my experience - so they only apply cleanly to the version stated on xensource Yes,

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-02-02 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Michael D. Norwick wrote: Michael D. Norwick wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. Still trying to build a Xen kernel with or without the dfsg. Found this though; http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/build-XEN-make-kpkg-ftopict384180.html Michael Still trying to

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Marcher
Rick Thomas wrote: I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release.  Does anybody know what's the problem? The problem is that xen is quite behind with kernels, afaik it's a HUGE patch to apply and the most recent

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Well, that's too bad. Is this in any way related to the error messages I got when I tried to do aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade on my Xen/Etch test machine? I'm particularly concerned about libc6-xen being marked broken. For what it's worth, my other Etch machines navigated the

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Martin Marcher wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release. Does anybody know what's the problem? The problem is that xen is quite behind with kernels,

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 02:59:49PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Martin Marcher wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release. Does anybody know what's the

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Michael D. Norwick wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. Thanks! Rick I don't know if you've been here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian, but, I too am trying to build a XEN enabled kernel using linux 2.6.23.9. This link looked straightforward

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-25 Thread Martin Marcher
Ted Hilts wrote: Also, I was talking about kernel versions higher than yours (up in the twenties where yours was 18) and 32 bit. But whether the CPU is 32 bit debian stable highest version number is 2.6.18 so there is no way to get a stable distro with a higher version number (stable as in:

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Martin Marcher wrote: Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi all, I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it - although with a little hope to success :) Nevermind, I wanted

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-24 Thread Jozef Peterka
Hi all, I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it - although with a little hope to success :) Nevermind, I wanted wish you good luck with xen, and the important is let everybody here know what

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Marcher
Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi all, I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it - although with a little hope to success :) Nevermind, I wanted wish you good luck with xen, and the important is let

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-24 Thread Ted Hilts
Martin My reply is at the very bottom. Ted Martin Marcher wrote: Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi all, I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it - although with a little hope to success :) Nevermind,

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Marcher
On Thursday 24 January 2008 17:13 Ted Hilts wrote: Martin What is the exact kernel version you are running on both machines and what are their CPU designations? The problems in the past have not been with the distribution but with various kernels. Did you compile your systems from source

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-24 Thread Ted Hilts
Martin Thanks for your information, you will find my reply further down. Martin Marcher wrote: On Thursday 24 January 2008 17:13 Ted Hilts wrote: Martin What is the exact kernel version you are running on both machines and what are their CPU designations? The problems in the past have

Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-23 Thread Rick Thomas
I'm trying to get started with Xen. I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenny kernels, or what? I plan to spend tonite with my

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-23 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. Thanks! Rick I don't know if you've been here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian, but, I too am trying to build a XEN enabled kernel using linux 2.6.23.9. This link looked straightforward and possible. I have not

getting started with spamassasin

2008-01-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Hi. I'd like to get spamassasin going on my desktop (testing/lenny). Mail enters this box via fetchmail which was configured to poll an imap server. Exim delivers it to the users. The procmail package is installed. Configuration of fetchmail was done by fetchmailconf, no special exim tricks.

Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

2008-01-23 Thread Ted Hilts
Rick My response at very bottom. Ted Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the

[OT] exchange [WAS] Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-19 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:52:57 -0500 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-17 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound

Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Goldberg
running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/ valid recipients. isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400 pages??? TIA

Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Goldberg
running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/ valid recipients. isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400 pages??? TIA

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/ valid recipients. isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400 pages??? No. :) It sounds like

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/ valid recipients. isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400 pages??? I suspect this won't be

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread David Brodbeck
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/ valid recipients. isn't there a document that says how to do this in

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread bobg . hahc
On Nov 16, 4:50 pm, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want to take inbound Email forward to exchange server only email w/

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread bobg . hahc
exim needs to do, is filter forward valid inbound Email... I read Doug's reply, and I'm not 100% sure what a smarthost is, but don't think this is that application... Andrew, that config example looks ALOT closer to a quick getting started manual than ANYTHING else i've seen! I'll have to dig

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread bobg . hahc
On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: running etch in console (no X); I just want

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
just like an smtp-speaking MUA (thunderbird, sylpheed, what have you) and it simply routes all mail through a host called a smarthost, further upstream and that smarthost is the one that actually routes the mail. that config example looks ALOT closer to a quick getting started manual than

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:18:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600,

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Owen Townend
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 19:24 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:18:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM,

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread David Brodbeck
On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: your description of a mail hub does sound like what I want... I'll see if I can download the source dist of the exim pkg... chk into that that would be REALLY nice... OK. I'll dig a little to see if I have copies of the config files

Re: Is there a quick how-to or getting started for exim?

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:41:58PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will involve using LDAP to verify the recipients, since you're using Exchange 5.5. This is actually a big improvement over how Exchange itself deals with mail -- it

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-03 Thread David Baron
OK, I withdraw the question. Will find useful answers elsewhere or stay with OpenOffice's DB (as I said, not all that bad!). The flame war has gotten too ugly. I think we can argue about the merits of one of the other programs with a bit more common courtesy and civility and end the discussion

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/07 12:26, David Baron wrote: OK, I withdraw the question. Will find useful answers elsewhere or stay with OpenOffice's DB (as I said, not all that bad!). The flame war has gotten too ugly. I think we can argue about the merits of one

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 05:53:52AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: What a useless and boring discussion you have started Ron!! Do you have to just be against everyone who thinks MySQL has at least some good features too? I just dropped the discussion when realized that it goes nowhere, but if

Re: Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:10:27PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: But you're coming from an angle where people know or must learn all of that just before they're able to even start. Don't you see how not having to learn that is faster for some people? Ever have to share the road with

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Danesh Daroui
1. The one who should learn something is you, and not me. So, I would suggest you to learn something basic about database concepts and I don't care if you ever come back or not! 2. You do not have to involve yourself in any single topic you see in the forum, specially if you are not asked to

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
? Where is your invitation to participate in this thread? The original post that started this thread was a request for help getting started with MySQL or PostgreSQL. I am subscribed to the list and received the message. That's all the invitiation I needed. 3. If you have used credit card in stone

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Dan H.
Danesh Daroui wrote: 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before inserting. This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Dan H.
Danesh Daroui wrote: 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before inserting. This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Dan H.
Danesh Daroui wrote: 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before inserting. This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/07 07:54, Dan H. wrote: Danesh Daroui wrote: 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So the date which is sent to the database is

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Danesh Daroui
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/02/07 07:54, Dan H. wrote: Danesh Daroui wrote: 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
for help getting started with MySQL or PostgreSQL. I am subscribed to the list and received the message. That's all the invitiation I needed. Yeah really! Except this one, I don't like to see any answer from you to my posts! Sorry. Public place, public list. If you don't want

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Ewart
On Thursday, 01.02.2007 at 06:18 +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: About allowing corrupted data, it is not the responsibility of database engine to verify if the data is valid or not since the database engine only Manages data and not validate. It depends what you mean by 'validate'. The

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Max Hyre
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: In that same document, they give the reason for doing so: The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode is that we can't check these conditions until the statement has begun executing.

Re: Getting started with Postgres

2007-02-01 Thread David Baron
Never expected to start a flame-war over this. I need visual tools to set the stuff up and run it and they are not evident. Actually, the OpenOffice database is not at all bad (except that it imports empty spreadsheet items as blanks (NOT EMPTY, NOT NULL). It can be readilly queried, reports

Re: Getting started with Postgres

2007-02-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:18:23PM +0200, David Baron wrote: Never expected to start a flame-war over this. Hey. We're here to help :-) I need visual tools to set the stuff up and run it and they are not evident. Hmm. I like to work from the commandline. If I find myself needing to

Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Angelo Bertolli
I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion, but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL considering the fact that this question originated from the idea of using a database backend for OpenOffice.org. Yeah, I didn't like MySQL is

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 12:16, Angelo Bertolli wrote: I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion, but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL considering the fact that this question originated from the idea

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 07:31, Max Hyre wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: In that same document, they give the reason for doing so: The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode

Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 12:16, Angelo Bertolli wrote: I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion, but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL considering the fact that this question

Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: (1) MySQL is shown to be faster in a single-user environment than Postgres, especially with complicated SELECT statements IIRC, this does not hold for transactional tables. So, we are back to the if you don't care about your

Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:39PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: The fundamental difference is licensing. If Windows was open source, I certainly wouldn't bother disagreeing with them if they specified which users would benefit more from Windows. And on that issue MySQL wins because you

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 17:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:39PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: [snip] Yes, they were fast when computers were still slow. Unfortunately, many people were willing to give up data integrity in exchange

Re: Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users What? In what way? Learning to develop against MySQL is no harder or easier than learning to develop against PostgreSQL (besides the fact

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users What? In what way? Learning to develop against

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 20:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Danesh Daroui
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users What? In what way? Learning to develop against MySQL is no harder or easier

Re: Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Ron Johnson wrote: That splatting noise is my hurl splatting onto the opposite wall. Remind me never to hire you. Are you sure you don't work for Microsoft? Or maybe you're an MCSE? It's confirmed. You *are* an MCSE. For that I may implement my next database with MySQL (instead of

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/07 23:41, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: That splatting noise is my hurl splatting onto the opposite wall. Remind me never to hire you. Are you sure you don't work for Microsoft? Or maybe you're an MCSE? It's confirmed.

Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread David Baron
I have an openoffice spreadsheet from which I want to generate two related tables. I have tried most everything installed. Stuff from OpenOffice will generate a database with table entries named by the first line in the spreadsheet. This can, indeed, be queried, sort of. I would like to get

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Clive Menzies
On (31/01/07 19:17), David Baron wrote: I have an openoffice spreadsheet from which I want to generate two related tables. I have tried most everything installed. Stuff from OpenOffice will generate a database with table entries named by the first line in the spreadsheet. This can,

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Danesh Daroui
David Baron wrote: I have an openoffice spreadsheet from which I want to generate two related tables. I have tried most everything installed. Stuff from OpenOffice will generate a database with table entries named by the first line in the spreadsheet. This can, indeed, be queried, sort

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/07 12:29, Danesh Daroui wrote: David Baron wrote: [snip] MySQL is definitely best choice. If you have not still installed latest version of MySQL do it as following: Well, if you *insist* on starting a war, so be it. MySQL is a toy piece

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 07:17:48PM +0200, David Baron wrote: I have an openoffice spreadsheet from which I want to generate two related tables. I have tried most everything installed. Stuff from OpenOffice will generate a database with table entries named by the first line in the

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: How do I get started here? First. Please do not use MySQL, unless you don't care about your data. Please stop this MySQL vs. PostgreSQL bashing. Each has their place. If users of MySQL don't care about their data, then I guess

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/07 16:50, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: How do I get started here? First. Please do not use MySQL, unless you don't care about your data. Please stop this MySQL vs. PostgreSQL

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 14:20, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/31/07 16:50, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: How do I get started here? First. Please do not use MySQL, unless you don't care about your data. Please stop this MySQL vs.

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/07 17:54, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 31 January 2007 14:20, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/31/07 16:50, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: How do I get started here? First. Please

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: You're talking to someone who's been a DBA for 10 years; you will not win this argument. Eh, so ya got three years on me. :) j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:50:14PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: How do I get started here? First. Please do not use MySQL, unless you don't care about your data. Please stop this MySQL vs. PostgreSQL bashing. Each has

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: In that same document, they give the reason for doing so: The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode is that we can't check these conditions until the statement has begun executing. We can't just roll back

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Danesh Daroui
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: In that same document, they give the reason for doing so: The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode is that we can't check these conditions until the statement has begun executing.

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:18:03AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote: Maybe MySQL is not the best database engine in the world but it is one the best engines. I have worked on MySQL for several years and from four years ago I have started to develop my own database engine inspired by MySQL.

Re: Getting started with Postgres or MySQL

2007-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/07 23:18, Danesh Daroui wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: [snip] Maybe MySQL is not the best database engine in the world but it is one the best engines. I have worked on

Help getting started with S/MIME email encryption

2004-11-25 Thread Brad Sims
I found the packages I needed to get gpgsm working with Kmail, but gpgsm shows no keys; and gpgsm --gen-key gives me this error: gpgsm: this function is not yet available from the commandline... My google-fu has failed me... Help would be nice g I do have gpg working with OpenGPG/Mime but not

Need help getting started with S/MIME

2004-11-25 Thread Brad Sims
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I found the packages I needed to get kmail to see gpgsm; but I can't figure out how to get gpgsm to generate keys... Gpgsm tells me that gpgsm --gen-keys is not supported from the command line. My google-fu has failed me, please help. I /do/ have

Re: Help getting started with S/MIME email encryption

2004-11-25 Thread Brad Sims
On Thursday 25 November 2004 9:40 pm, Brad Sims wrote: I found the packages I needed to get gpgsm working with Kmail, but gpgsm shows no keys; and gpgsm --gen-key gives me this error: gpgsm: this function is not yet available from the commandline... My google-fu has failed me... Help would

Re: Getting Started with Debian 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Robert S
I recently installed woody on a server and did all security updates. Works fine, except for a few packages not included (eg. usermin). I'm just using it as a mail/web/print server. Wouldn't use it as desktop. Easy network configuration the debian way: # apt-get install etherconf #

Re: Getting Started with Debian 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Joris Huizer
Lian Liming wrote: Andrew Konosky wrote: Hello, I started out in Linux with RedHat 8.0, then 9.0, and now I run Fedora Core 2 on my primary computer. I have used the Knoppix cd a lot, which I know is based on Debian, so I wanted to try out the full version of Debian. I just installed Debian on

Re: Getting Started with Debian 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Raquel Rice
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:24:26 +0200 Joris Huizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have another problem with the installation with Debian 3.0. The installer only support two filesystem type: ext2 and xfs. I prefer ext3 and reiserfs. So it is not convience for me. I choose ext2 for installation

Getting Started with Debian 3.0

2004-09-15 Thread Andrew Konosky
Hello, I started out in Linux with RedHat 8.0, then 9.0, and now I run Fedora Core 2 on my primary computer. I have used the Knoppix cd a lot, which I know is based on Debian, so I wanted to try out the full version of Debian. I just installed Debian on my old computer, which was running SuSe

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