On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:22:30 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 08:45:19 AM Joe wrote:
> > Sadly, much html comes of of MS software, and takes about ten pages
> > of markup to include three text lines.
>
> That may be (or may be a slight exxageration ;-), but in my
we have seen, some MUAs seem to do a miserable job when
building the plain text part from the HTML (like forgetting line-ends,
which wreaks havoc in source code). I didn't know that. This reduces
my tolerance for HTML mail even in the multipart case. The problem
there is that the sender is
On Friday, September 10, 2021 08:45:19 AM Joe wrote:
> Sadly, much html comes of of MS software, and takes about ten pages of
> markup to include three text lines.
That may be (or may be a slight exxageration ;-), but in my email client, if I
get a multipart message, the plain text part is displa
On Friday, September 10, 2021 05:20:46 AM Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> writes:
> > (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple
> > of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd
> > be OK with it, but I'd like to know how the consensus is).
>
> I feel that it is okay now
On 2021-09-10, Charles Curley wrote:
> (I also think that if one must use colors, emphasis, etc. as part of
> one's writing, then one is not a very good writer. On the other
> tentacle, one should not expect good writing from nerds.)
>
I think there was at least one book--or article or series of
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:41:55AM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de writes:
[...]
> Additionally, in this C++ question thread, the source code was given
> in HTML and text parts of the e-mail and while the `#include`
> statements were all on separate lines in the HTML, they appear as
>
On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 06:15:12 -0600
Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:41:02 +0200
> wrote:
>
> > (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple
> > of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd
> > be OK with it, but I'd like to know how the consensus is
On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:41:02 +0200
wrote:
> (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple
> of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd
> be OK with it, but I'd like to know how the consensus is).
I think it has problems. One case is where the author composes in H
On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:50:46 +0530
Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> writes:
>
> > (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple
> > of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd
> > be OK with it, but I'd like to know how the consensus is).
>
> I feel that it is okay now
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 08:41:02AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
The original mail was a passable MIME multipart/alternative
with a plain text part. I /think/ that is OK, what do others
think?
I think that's perfectly reasonable. There /can/ be good reasons
for people to include a HTML part, i
to...@tuxteam.de writes:
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 07:45:43PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
[...]
> First, most folks on tech mailinglists despise HTML email.
The original mail was a passable MIME multipart/alternative
with a plain text part. I /think/ that is OK, what do others
think?
Postel's
writes:
> (I'm just asking, because I've seen this complaint a couple
> of times for a well-formed multipart message: personally, I'd
> be OK with it, but I'd like to know how the consensus is).
I feel that it is okay now to send we formatted multipart messages. As
long as I am getting text part
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 07:45:43PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
[...]
> First, most folks on tech mailinglists despise HTML email.
The original mail was a passable MIME multipart/alternative
with a plain text part. I /think/ that is OK, what do others
think?
Perhaps you can teach you mailer to p
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 20:50:01 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:19:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Have you examined the timestamps in the email header of such emails in
> > order to see where the holdup is occurring. It may or may not be in
> > the last hop.
>
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:19:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Have you examined the timestamps in the email header of such emails in
order to see where the holdup is occurring. It may or may not be in
the last hop.
You embarrass me, David! It did not occur to me that the header would
contain t
On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 07:25:28 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages
> > > downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for
> > > incoming messages.
> >
On Ma, 14 apr 20, 07:25:28, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages
> > > downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for
> > > incoming messages.
> >
> > What b
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 09:51:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
I suppose I need to reduce the limit of the number of messages
downloaded in a sesson, so as to enable more frequent checks for
incoming messages.
What benefit would this bring?
Perhaps once a month or once every other month, I a
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 18:43:53, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:01:47PM -0500, Jason wrote:
> >
> > As another option, both getmail and thunderbird can be configured to
> > leave messages on the server and then delete them a certain number of
> > days after retrieval. Using that
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:01:47PM -0500, Jason wrote:
As another option, both getmail and thunderbird can be configured to
leave messages on the server and then delete them a certain number of
days after retrieval. Using that feature in getmail, you could access
the same messages in thunderbird
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris composed:
> All things considered, I am thinking that the best solution is to set
> up a POP account on another domain and configure Thunderbird to fetch
> mail from that location. Then all I need to do in mutt is to forward
> troublesom
On 31/03/20 7:32 am, David Wright wrote:
> Richard Hector was unable to save the empty Romanian attachment, so
> I posted a non-empty version to see whether it was the emptiness or
> the name that was the problem. No reply.
Apologies; that (or at least the intent of it) slipped past me. I can
save
On 2020-03-30 at 14:32, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 28 Mar 2020 at 10:30:07 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Vi, 27 mar 20, 23:15:12, David Wright wrote:
>>
>>> However, the actual problem that Russell introduced was how a
>>> character set—any character set—should be encoded in the emai
On Mon 30 Mar 2020 at 07:26:06 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > (BTW I'm not sure about Reco's use of \uc899. Does \u mean that
> > c899 is in utf-8, or should it be followed by a Unicode codepoint,
> > as in U+c899? If the latter, th
On Sat 28 Mar 2020 at 10:30:07 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 27 mar 20, 23:15:12, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > However, the actual problem that Russell introduced was how a
> > character set—any character set—should be encoded in the email header
> > parameter's value. And the RFC answer
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> (BTW I'm not sure about Reco's use of \uc899. Does \u mean that
> c899 is in utf-8, or should it be followed by a Unicode codepoint,
> as in U+c899? If the latter, then \uc899 is way off my charts.)
It's a notation used in some progra
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 02:37:22PM -, Curt wrote:
[...]
> Not at all; I'm an expatriate who's lost some of his Anglophonic
> reflexes after many years here in France. What's gone in one ear has
> pushed some stuff out the other.
That's why we often have two of them, after all ;-)
Cheers
--
On 2020-03-28, wrote:
>
>
>> > This betrays a little your French background :-)
>> Yes, you're right, that's it.
> Lest it be interpreted the wrong way: I'll venture to describe
> my relation to France and its culture as a kind of love afair.
Not at all; I'm an expatriate who's lost some of hi
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 01:15:25PM +, Joe wrote:
> [...] despite being taught Spanish by a bearded Australian
> who looked a lot like Roger Whittaker
Sounds about right (note that I'm Spanish myself, although
I'd rather say Cosmopolitan or something ;-)
Cheers
-- t
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:03:54 +0100
wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 09:38:09AM -, Curt wrote:
> > On 2020-03-28, wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > This betrays a little your French background :-)
> >
> > Yes, you're right, that's it.
>
> Lest it be interpreted the wrong way: I'll venture t
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 09:44:20 - (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2020-03-28, Joe wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
> >> >> already know that?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context
> >> > Latin is ambiguo
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 09:38:09AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2020-03-28, wrote:
[...]
> > This betrays a little your French background :-)
>
> Yes, you're right, that's it.
Lest it be interpreted the wrong way: I'll venture to describe
my relation to France and its culture as a kind of love afa
On 2020-03-28, Joe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
>> >> already know that?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context Latin is
>> > ambiguous.
>> >
>>
>> My confusion stemmed from the fact I thought the correct
On 2020-03-28, wrote:
>
>> My confusion stemmed from the fact I thought the correct word was
>> "Roumanian," not Romanian, which I took for a typo, exposing my
> ^^
>> ignorance (which paradoxically seems to be increasing the more I know
>> (because the more I know the more I realize I don't)
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 09:08:23AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2020-03-27, deloptes wrote:
> > Curt wrote:
> >
> >> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
> >> already know that?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context Latin is
> > ambiguous.
> >
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 09:08:23 - (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2020-03-27, deloptes wrote:
> > Curt wrote:
> >
> >> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
> >> already know that?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context Latin is
> > ambiguous.
On 2020-03-27, deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
>
>> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
>> already know that?
>>
>
> Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context Latin is
> ambiguous.
>
My confusion stemmed from the fact I thought the correct word was
"Rouman
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 10:51:46, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
> > >
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 09:41:01 +0100
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>
> > [Romans] They spoke Vulgar Latin, and that outlived the
> > Empire, evolving and dividing into the Romance languages.
> >
> > But it's strange how an aside can kill the actual discuss
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:15:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> [Romans] They spoke Vulgar Latin, and that outlived the
> Empire, evolving and dividing into the Romance languages.
>
> But it's strange how an aside can kill the actual discussion of
> email headers.
:-)
Yet in some way the topics
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 23:15:12, David Wright wrote:
>
> However, the actual problem that Russell introduced was how a
> character set—any character set—should be encoded in the email header
> parameter's value. And the RFC answer is "not in Base64", which is for
> unstructured fields, as illustrated b
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:42:17 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > > or a non-Latin language,
> >
> >
Curt wrote:
> Reco meant Roumanian (a Latin language). Or does everybody
> already know that?
>
Yes, Romanian or Rumanian is Latin, but here in the context Latin is
ambiguous.
Romanian is Latin, because it belongs to the Latin family of languages like
Italian. (well both of them descend from t
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
I think we can agree that the Romans spoke Latin!
Actually, Latin was the official, legal language of Rome. The
previous conquests of Alexander the Great established the Koine
dialect of Greek as the "lingua franca" of the Ancient World. Koin
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:42:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > > or a non-Latin language,
> >
> > I
On 2020-03-27, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
>> > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
>> > or a non-Latin language,
>>
>> I think we can agree that the
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 12:42:17, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > > or a non-Latin language,
> >
> > I think we c
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:12:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
> > or a non-Latin language,
>
> I think we can agree that the Romans spoke Latin!
Err... Romanian is not
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 17:35:19 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > or an attachment was named using non-Latin characters.
> >
> > Is that non-Latin or non-ASCII?
>
> I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romania
On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 06:31:29 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:03:55AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
> > client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
> ...
> > One approach
On Sat 28 Mar 2020 at 02:48:04 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote:
> On 28/03/20 1:22 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > (attaching a zero length file with the name using some special Romanian
> > characters to this mail)
>
> Interesting. It appears Thunderbird won't let me save that. Presumably
> because
Hi.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > or an attachment was named using non-Latin characters.
>
> Is that non-Latin or non-ASCII?
I'm not that familiar with the languages to qualify Romanian as a Latin
or a non-Latin language, but your attachment really i
On 28/03/20 1:22 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> (attaching a zero length file with the name using some special Romanian
> characters to this mail)
Interesting. It appears Thunderbird won't let me save that. Presumably
because it's empty.
Also the list archive seems to have thrown it away.
But that
On Mar 27, 2020, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > > expected. What
On Mar 27, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
> > >
> > >
On Vi, 27 mar 20, 14:40:21, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:51:46AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Nice one, added. Wondering why it's not the default though...
>
> A small correction. It's "set rfc2047_parameters=true".
set rfc2047_parameters
is already sufficient (because i
Hi.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:51:46AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > > expected. What do I do wi
On Jo, 26 mar 20, 18:41:10, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >
> > I understand. But some of the stuff I receive does not work as
> > expected. What do I do with the following PDF:
> >
> >=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2MjMwLnBkZg==?=
>
> Read muttrc
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 03:03:55AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an auxiliary mail
client with GUI (such as Thunderbird) with which I could open such
...
One approach would be to get a mail account strictly for this purpose,
and set up a comple
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 18:29:38 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:20:15AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > (I presume that you know about "v", to list attachments, and that
> > attachments can be email-type entities on which you can use "v"
> > again. List digests are lik
* On 2020 26 Mar 12:58 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> In the past I have used Thunderbird, but not Evolution. Can I not use
> Thunderbird for this approach?
Oh, certainly. In the past I used kmail when I ran KDE. After
switching back to Debian + Gnome about 18 months ago I opted to use
Evolu
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:20:15AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 03:03:55 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the l
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 06:47:55AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
extra step but means
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:44:14AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
=?utf-8?B?QkhfODU0MDk2MjMwLnBkZg==?=
This is not a PDF (it would be a very short one, mind you :)
I misspoke; I should have said "string" rather than "PDF". But I did
not discover how to get mutt to point me to the PDF file
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 04:39:10PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12020-03-26):
> > [3] I don't think it's really intentional. It's an unfortunate and
> >contagious antipattern, a bit like prions transmit Creutzfeld-Jacob.
> >But nowadays I suspect that some actors help it
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 03:03:55 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is
Hi.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:26:30AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On 26/03/2020 00:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> > I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> > Picking out and
Hi.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
> > 'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
>
to...@tuxteam.de (12020-03-26):
> [3] I don't think it's really intentional. It's an unfortunate and
>contagious antipattern, a bit like prions transmit Creutzfeld-Jacob.
>But nowadays I suspect that some actors help its expansion because
>it helps their business interests. Or something
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:47:55PM CET, Nate Bargmann said:
> As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
> host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
> question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
> extra step but m
On Mar 26, 2020, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 07:38 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > As you said, the correct approach would be utilizing IMAP -- however,
> > whether or not there is IMAP access is entirely dependent on the
> > server's configuration. Offhand I don't know of any that _only_
>
On 26/03/2020 00:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is rather difficult.
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 07:38 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> As you said, the correct approach would be utilizing IMAP -- however,
> whether or not there is IMAP access is entirely dependent on the
> server's configuration. Offhand I don't know of any that _only_
> support
> POP3 these days; but there'
As I have my own domain, it was trivial to create a mailbox on the mail
host and use Mutt/Neomutt's bounce command (b) to 'bounce' the mail in
question to that mailbox and then retrieve it with Evolution. It's an
extra step but means that I don't have to abandon Neomutt for an
inferior mail progra
On Mar 26, 2020, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2020, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
> > > 'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default
On Mar 26, 2020, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
> > 'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
> > viewer. This should work also for 'h
On Mar 26, 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> [...]
> URLs: install urlview and press Ctrl-b to select the url you want (will
> be passed to your default browser)
Nice to know! Something new for the toolbox!
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On Mar 25, 2020, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> > I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> > Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:53:35AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
> >'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
> >viewer. This s
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:24:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Opening pdfs in a reader is trivial with mutt. Just press 'v' and then
'Return' on the pdf attachment. It should be opened in your default pdf
viewer. This should work also for 'html' parts to be opened in your
default browser.
I u
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:51:51 -0700
David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a
> > day I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an
> > attachment. Picking out and viewing the links and
On Jo, 26 mar 20, 03:03:55, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is rather diff
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:51:51PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
If you configure all your e-mail clients to leave the messages on the
server, you should be able to access the same e-mail server account
from multiple clients. Current clients using IMAP seem to work this
way (Thunderbird, App
On Wednesday 25 March 2020 23:03:55 Russell L. Harris wrote:
> At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
> I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
> Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
> and sometimes is ra
On 2020-03-25 20:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult.
Rathe
At the moment I am running neo-mutt on Debian 9. Once or twice a day
I receive a HTML message, typically with a PDF file as an attachment.
Picking out and viewing the links and attachments always is a hassle,
and sometimes is rather difficult.
Rather than hassle with mutt, I hoped to install an
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 01:00:11PM -0600, Thomas D Dial wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > My bank offers a standardized protocol based on public key
> > cryptography.
[...]
> > No browser involved.
>
> Can you name the bank? It has annoyed me for bet
ink
> > which automatically opens a page on their site in your browser (they
> > assume that everyone reads email in a browser, of course). They
> > claim
> > this is more secure.
>
> Horrifying.
>
> [...]
>
> > There is no point in complaining. 99% of us
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 02:49:41PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
I think "convenient" more than "pretty". (This idea stolen from Bruce
Schneier.)
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Brad Rogers wrote:
> [...]
>
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
There's a certain elegance to amber-on-black...
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page on their site in your browser
> > (they assume that everyone reads email in a browser, of course).
> > They claim this is more secure.
>
> Horrifying.
>
> [...]
>
> > There is no point in complaining. 99% of users object to anything
> > *but* html mail. M
xt as well as
the email, so our dialogue was continued by text and then phone. (They
were extremely efficient, and I can't complain about their actions.)
But thanks for the heads-up.
> There is no point in complaining. 99% of users object to anything *but*
> html mail. Most don't know that anything else exists.
¹ not Citi, thankfully.
Cheers,
David.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 02:49:41PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> By and large, people simply do not care.
> In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
> certain value of 'safe', obviously.
And a certain value of "pretty".
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:31:54 +0200
wrote:
Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>That's where talking to people comes in.
By and large, people simply do not care.
In fact, it seems most would rather have pretty than be safe. For a
certain value of 'safe', obviously.
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:26:00 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
Hello John,
>assume that everyone reads email in a browser, of course). They claim
>this is more secure.
They can claim it, but they're wrong. The safest, most secure way is to
send plain text, without any links at all.
Safer still; Neve
of course). They claim
> this is more secure.
Horrifying.
[...]
> There is no point in complaining. 99% of users object to anything *but*
> html mail. Most don't know that anything else exists.
For me, that would be a reason to change the bank.
My bank offers a standardized protocol based o
ion. If you kill the process as soon as you realize that
something in that email is trying to connect to something (as any sane
person would) they consider that you have authorized the transaction.
There is no point in complaining. 99% of users object to anything *but*
html mail. Most don&
On 2019-07-11 16:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 15:52:56, John Crawley wrote:
On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote:
...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without
exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:10:46AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:03:34 +0200
> wrote:
>
> Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>
> >enough to yell at the sender to fix his/her MUA.
>
> Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
> ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:03:34 +0200
wrote:
Hello to...@tuxteam.de,
>enough to yell at the sender to fix his/her MUA.
Except that the worst offenders are commercial entities such google,
ebay(1), all banks, amazon, etc, etc. ad nauseam. *None* of them are
going to remove HTML and/or CSS from the
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