On 15 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
when did you last try? Mine still works, though it's definitely a
little buggy getting it to associate. I haven't upgraded the lappy in
a while though, so maybe it's better. Currently, to get it to
associate I have to run through the following
2008/6/24 s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Personally, I've found all of the wind farms I've seen so far quite
Ask the EU about their effect on migratory bird populations.
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds has this to say -
Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/6/22 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The tell people like Ted Kennedy to put up (and allow that wind farm
off Martha's Vineyard) or shut up about the environment.
That's way off topic.
Yeah, he's troling. :-)
Personally, I've found all of the wind
In linux.debian.user, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 06/16/08 20:33, Lish wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(whether it is Taiwan or PRC). I just don't see any reason to support
the (Communism? debatable) absolute dictatorship that is China.
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On 06/21/08 16:55, s. keeling wrote:
In linux.debian.user, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 06/16/08 20:33, Lish wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(whether it is Taiwan or PRC). I just don't see any reason
2008/6/21 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As long as California limo liberals make sure there are no
offshore oil rigs, and Ted Kennedy prevents windmills off the coast
of Martha's Vineyard, they don't *really* give a rat's arse about China.
Ron, I can't speak for California limo liberals,
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 04:30 +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
2008/6/21 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As long as California limo liberals make sure there are no
offshore oil rigs, and Ted Kennedy prevents windmills off the
coast
of Martha's Vineyard, they don't *really*
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2008/6/21 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As long as California limo liberals make sure there are no
offshore oil rigs, and Ted Kennedy prevents windmills off the coast
of
2008/6/22 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The tell people like Ted Kennedy to put up (and allow that wind farm
off Martha's Vineyard) or shut up about the environment.
That's way off topic.
I don't know Ted Kennedy; I don't have a hot line to him; I am not your
messenger. If you want to
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:52 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
So it seems like pretty well all the cheap stuff is Made in China.
Traditionally, it's made in Taiwan. These days, however, it's not
expedient to say so, hence the use of the term People's Republic of
On 15 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
Is there really any point in doing all this? Using the old system on a
2.6.23 kernel the connection comes up immediately and works flawlessly.
Apart from the fact that I can't use any later kernels there is no
disadvantage. I think that the
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:10:46AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:52 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
So it seems like pretty well all the cheap stuff is Made in China.
Traditionally, it's made in Taiwan. These days, however, it's not
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 21:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:10:46AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:52 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
So it seems like pretty well all the cheap stuff is Made in China.
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:34 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
It would be nice if there was a made-in-democracy computer source.
I'm not entirely certain, but I believe Intel avoids China and Japan
entirely.
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On 16/06/2008, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 21:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:10:46AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:52 +1200
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Chris,
So
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(whether it is Taiwan or PRC). I just don't see any reason to support
the (Communism? debatable) absolute dictatorship that is China.
As a Chinese, I dont think the Communism, or further the absolute
dictatorship is a
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On 06/16/08 20:33, Lish wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(whether it is Taiwan or PRC). I just don't see any reason to support
the (Communism? debatable) absolute dictatorship that is China.
As
On 14 Jun 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:26:26PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
IMHO, thinkpads have a long history of supporting linux (or rather that
linux works on them) and many really like it. OTOH, the Vostro is also
a box fully supported (watch what
On Sunday 15 June 2008 01:27:14 am Anthony Campbell wrote:
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Wireless works with th old ipw3945 stuff but I have never managed to get
iwlwifi to do anything, so I can't use a later kernel than 2.6.23,
Well, it Works For Me(tm). The procedure for getting iwlwifi up and running is
slightly
On 15 Jun 2008, Lee Glidewell wrote:
On Sunday 15 June 2008 01:27:14 am Anthony Campbell wrote:
snip
Wireless works with th old ipw3945 stuff but I have never managed to get
iwlwifi to do anything, so I can't use a later kernel than 2.6.23,
Well, it Works For Me(tm). The procedure for
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 21:43 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:26:26PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
IMHO, thinkpads have a long history of supporting linux (or rather that
linux works on them) and many really like it. OTOH, the Vostro is also
a box fully supported
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:11:43AM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 21:43 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:26:26PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
By owners of the company, do you mean Lenovo or their predecessor IBM?
I haven't seen a Lenovo
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 01:41:53PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 15 Jun 2008, Lee Glidewell wrote:
On Sunday 15 June 2008 01:27:14 am Anthony Campbell wrote:
snip
Wireless works with th old ipw3945 stuff but I have never managed to get
iwlwifi to do anything, so I can't use a later
On 15 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
Yes, I know others have found it worked, and probably I have been doing
something very silly. But I've followed all the docs as conscientiously
as I can, without success. The Intellinux wireless org site says, in
bold letters:
NOTE: The
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 06:00:19PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 15 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
...
ifup wlan0
# can't do anything without upping the thing
iwlist wlan0 scan
# will perform a scan (can you get this part to work?)
iwconfig wlan0 essid essid of
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:34:36AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I'll read that. I try not to buy anything from China, but it seems that
all MBs are made there, and most of the other computing stuff too.
Ha!, here in N.Z. it is extremely rare to find something *not* made in
China. In fact
We are in the same position, and need a quick solution. I'm looking at
Newegg's Lenovo Thinkpads (R61i and T61) at $1K and the Dell
Vostro/Latitude D630 choices at the $600/850 levels.
Costco has some HP's as well, roughly the same level.
The $$ is fine across the board--I wanted quick
On Sat June 14 2008 11:24:06 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
We are in the same position, and need a quick solution. I'm looking at
Newegg's Lenovo Thinkpads (R61i and T61) at $1K and the Dell
Vostro/Latitude D630 choices at the $600/850 levels.
Costco has some HP's as well, roughly the same level.
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:24 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
We are in the same position, and need a quick solution. I'm looking at
Newegg's Lenovo Thinkpads (R61i and T61) at $1K and the Dell
Vostro/Latitude D630 choices at the $600/850 levels.
Costco has some HP's as well, roughly the same
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:26:26PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
IMHO, thinkpads have a long history of supporting linux (or rather that
linux works on them) and many really like it. OTOH, the Vostro is also
a box fully supported (watch what wireless you get) and the Latitude is
of similar
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