Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-05 Thread Klaus Imgrund
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:19:09 +0100 Michael Bona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Klaus, > > so did you find a pattern under what circumstances it works and when > it does not? I would be very interested especially concerning Debian > ... > > Michael Sorry, late reply - technical problems. Basicall

Re: netiquette (was Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.)

2003-03-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 12:37:36PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Brian Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030227 22:10 PST]: > > Sorry Kent, I tried posting after as a response and it sucks. I use > > spell checking and as most spell checkers are pretty dumb and start at > > the top, I end up having

netiquette (was Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.)

2003-03-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Brian Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030227 22:10 PST]: > Sorry Kent, I tried posting after as a response and it sucks. I use > spell checking and as most spell checkers are pretty dumb and start at > the top, I end up having to correct or skip other people's misspelled > words before I get to

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Bona
Klaus, so did you find a pattern under what circumstances it works and when it does not? I would be very interested especially concerning Debian ... Michael Klaus Imgrund wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:46:50 +0100 > Michael Bona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have tried to get DHCP working

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-02 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 05:29:56PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > Knoppix got finished earlier than expected. I first tried it on > another machine on my WAN/LAN to see if the CD would work with another > configuration. This went off without a hitch, though it is necessary to > prompt Knoppix to

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-02 Thread Brian Durant
Knoppix got finished earlier than expected. I first tried it on another machine on my WAN/LAN to see if the CD would work with another configuration. This went off without a hitch, though it is necessary to prompt Knoppix to search for a dhcp assignment of an IP address by using "netcartconfig

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:10:14PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > OK Sean, the output of "# /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111" was "eth0 > Media Link Off". The result of "$ ping 216.239.57.100" was "Network is > unreachable" :-( i've never seen that error out of ifconfig before, and can't even fin

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:17:41PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > dhcp works in Knoppix. Should I run the same tests that have been posted > to me for Deb? What would the conclusions be for my Deb install if > Knoppix does work? if knoppix works, it will probably automagically work, because that's

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread Brian Durant
Thanks for the Klaus. Do you have any advice with regards to the dhcp problem I am having in Debian 3 rev. 1? I have almost completed a download of the latest Knoppix iso and can burn a CD from that. I can then try to boot the CD, but am not sure what I need to do to see if dhcp works in Knoppi

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread Klaus Imgrund
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:46:50 +0100 Michael Bona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tried to get DHCP working on an SIS900 (on an Elitegroup K7S5A) for > quite some time (Debina, Gentoo). No such luck. DHCP works with Windows but > not Linux. Normal networking (with static IP) is fine, just no DCH

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread Brian Durant
OK Sean, the output of "# /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111" was "eth0 Media Link Off". The result of "$ ping 216.239.57.100" was "Network is unreachable" :-( Cheers, Brian sean finney wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:07:55PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: If it is OK with you, I would rather

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-03-01 Thread Brian Durant
Hi Gary, Thanks, that is exactly what I am looking for. Unfortunately, the Fujitsu-Siemens Celvin only has a third party USB floppy drive. I made sure that I installed USB mass storage in the kernel, but how do I get the USB floppy to work, so that I can do what you suggest? Cheers, Brian Ga

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:07:55PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > If it is OK with you, I would rather not interleave my responses. I just > got over some serious eye problems and find that spending too much time > editing and working with the dim Debian text output on my daughter's > computer, ma

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Gary Turner
A: See for yourself Brian Durant wrote: >If it is OK with you, I would rather not interleave my responses. I just >got over some serious eye problems and find that spending too much time >editing and working with the dim Debian text output on my daughter's >computer, makes my eyes complain a

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Brian Durant
If it is OK with you, I would rather not interleave my responses. I just got over some serious eye problems and find that spending too much time editing and working with the dim Debian text output on my daughter's computer, makes my eyes complain a lot. I am trying to keep the eye strain at a t

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread sean finney
hi brian On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:38PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > OK, I didn't get the difference between "#" and "$". Tried again, in > root (#), same result. Added the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces > restarted the network and tried again. Same result - nada - zip -zilch interfa

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Brian Durant
The contents of "/etc/networking/interfaces" was only the lines that I added. There was nothing in there, or maybe I rather created a file when I used vi (in root). However, I didn't overwrite I file, that I am sure of. The result of "ls -l /sbin/ifconfig" is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 55180 Nov. 2

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Brian Durant wrote: Added the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces restarted the network and tried again. Same result - nada - zip -zilch response. No response with /sbin/ifconfig either. Thanks for all your time so far. Is there any place that we can go from here? I did a sor

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Kent West
Brian Durant wrote: "SIS 900 Internal MII PHY Transceiver found. at address 1 Using transceiver found. at address 1 as default. SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xe400, IRQ 11, 00:30:67:06:4f:86" Added the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces restarted the network and tried again. Same result - na

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread Brian Durant
OK, I didn't get the difference between "#" and "$". Tried again, in root (#), same result. Added the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces restarted the network and tried again. Same result - nada - zip -zilch response. No response with /sbin/ifconfig either. Thanks for all your time so far. Is

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-28 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:34:22PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > "SIS 900 Internal MII PHY Transceiver found. at address 1 > Using transceiver found. at address 1 as default. > SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xe400, IRQ 11, 00:30:67:06:4f:86" okay, that's Good, it means your kernel sees and happily l

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-27 Thread Brian Durant
Sorry Kent, I tried posting after as a response and it sucks. I use spell checking and as most spell checkers are pretty dumb and start at the top, I end up having to correct or skip other people's misspelled words before I get to my own. The other way round, like I am doing now, I can stop the

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-27 Thread Brian Durant
sean finney wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:16:43PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: The response is "not found". Remember, I am still in the install. I the response to what? ifconfig? lspci? also, were you able to install the kernel onto the hard disk? if you can finish the install proce

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-27 Thread Michael Bona
I have tried to get DHCP working on an SIS900 (on an Elitegroup K7S5A) for quite some time (Debina, Gentoo). No such luck. DHCP works with Windows but not Linux. Normal networking (with static IP) is fine, just no DCHP. Maybe a new driver would help, but the old one just doesn't do DHCP. If I am

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-27 Thread Kent West
Sean Finney wrote: but you don't have an ip address. this means your kernel see the device and configured it, but dhcp isn't coming through. do you have lines in /etc/network/interfaces that say something like: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp ? also, if this is on a private lan, how about stat

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-27 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:16:43PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > The response is "not found". Remember, I am still in the install. I the response to what? ifconfig? lspci? also, were you able to install the kernel onto the hard disk? if you can finish the install process and boot off the hard

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Durant
The response is "not found". Remember, I am still in the install. I don't have any problems dhcp on any of the other connected boxes, all running a version of Win at this time. All receive an IP address automatically through dhcp. I tried "ifconfig eth0" again (had to do a " " to get out of li

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:19:25AM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > Giving the output is not an easy task, as the computer I am installing > on has a USB floppy (the Celvin is a kind of iMac for the PC world) and > hopefully will work when I get Debian installed. As the network isn't > working eithe

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Durant
Giving the output is not an easy task, as the computer I am installing on has a USB floppy (the Celvin is a kind of iMac for the PC world) and hopefully will work when I get Debian installed. As the network isn't working either, I can't send it as a text file to another box on my WAN/LAN. All I

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:30:26AM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > OK, I started the install process from the beginning again, remounted > partitions, etc. Not only did I boot the install using "bf24", but I > also chose the long install, to make sure that I was installing a 2.4 > kernel from the D

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:30:26AM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > OK, I started the install process from the beginning again, remounted > partitions, etc. Not only did I boot the install using "bf24", but I > also chose the long install, to make sure that I was installing a 2.4 > kernel from the Deb

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Durant
OK, I started the install process from the beginning again, remounted partitions, etc. Not only did I boot the install using "bf24", but I also chose the long install, to make sure that I was installing a 2.4 kernel from the Deb 3 rev. 1 full install CDs. I tried /sbin/ifconfig eth0 and got a l

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:10:08PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > DHCP failed. I booted the install with the command "bf24", so support > for the built into motherboard SiS 900 Fast Ethernet driver should be > loaded. What do I do now??? well first things first see if the networking works :) try

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Kent West
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:10:08 +0700 "Brian Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I finally got CD1 image downloaded for Debian 3 Rev1. I followed the > SuSE partitioning scheme for the first install attempt. Got to > "configure network", where I am prompted for a "hostname". Not really > sure

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-26 Thread Brian Durant
OK, I finally got CD1 image downloaded for Debian 3 Rev1. I followed the SuSE partitioning scheme for the first install attempt. Got to "configure network", where I am prompted for a "hostname". Not really sure how this compares to a MS "workgroup" so I left it at the default "debian". Then tri

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:43:02AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > If you're a newbie, I'd recommend taking the first scheme, use Debian > for a day or two. Then do the install all over again, wiping the drive, > using the second scheme. Then do it again in a week or so, wiping the > drive, and making

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread sean finney
hi brian, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:54:55PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > So where would I do this in the install process, at the prompt for hda > disk partition? Skip over the swap prompt? What comes after, a dialog > listing of all the hard drive partitions? /home I understand, but what > is

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Brian Durant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030224 23:21]: > [...] I know that Debian has a long and honored reputation of not > including commercial software, but does that mean that no attempt is > made to support commercial products [...] You mean "non-Free", or "proprietary", in place of "commercial".

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:39:03AM -0500, sean finney wrote: > heya, > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:25:20PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > > /dev/hda7reiserfs9.29 GB(mount point) / > > > > /dev/hda5ext215.1 MB/boot > > > > shmfs shm 57.9 MB/dev/shm

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Kent West
Brian Durant wrote: OK, due to a download problem with a couple of the large CD iso files, I am trying the bootbf2.4.iso Andrew Bloch net install. When I get to the hard disk partitioning, I am not really sure what to do. My hard disk looks like the following at this time: /dev/hda7reiserf

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread donw
My apologies for making this a list-wide post, but I'd prefer to be corrected if I'm wrong. On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:25:20PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > OK, due to a download problem with a couple of the large CD iso files, I > am trying the bootbf2.4.iso Andrew Bloch net install. When I get t

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Brian Durant
So where would I do this in the install process, at the prompt for hda disk partition? Skip over the swap prompt? What comes after, a dialog listing of all the hard drive partitions? /home I understand, but what is a "/var"? How would all of these partitions look together in schematic form and

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread sean finney
heya, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:25:20PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: > /dev/hda7reiserfs9.29 GB(mount point) / > > /dev/hda5ext215.1 MB/boot > > shmfs shm 57.9 MB/dev/shm from my own experience, if you have the time i'd recommend splitting that u

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Brian Durant
OK, due to a download problem with a couple of the large CD iso files, I am trying the bootbf2.4.iso Andrew Bloch net install. When I get to the hard disk partitioning, I am not really sure what to do. My hard disk looks like the following at this time: /dev/hda7    reiserfs    9.29 GB    (mou

Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-25 Thread Mark Janssen
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 08:04, Brian Durant wrote: > I am a relative Newbie to Linux and totally new to Debian and this list. > My first questions, which I hope aren't like the above subject, is how > closely related is Xandros (formerly Corel) to Debian? Is it close I've never used Xandros, but I

Newbie bull brings own china shop.

2003-02-24 Thread Brian Durant
Hi, I am a relative Newbie to Linux and totally new to Debian and this list. My first questions, which I hope aren't like the above subject, is how closely related is Xandros (formerly Corel) to Debian? Is it close enough that list members wouldn't mind me posting problems to this list or is t