On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:05:28AM +1000, John wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >>On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >[snip]
> >
> >>To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> >>Oreg
You're right, I forgot how I got into this thread, I think it was the
beer. I just poured myself a shot of Bushmills, an Irish whisky.
Memorial Day weekend is over and I'm facing the alligators again in the
morning.
> I've pointed this out off-list to several participants.
>
> This discussion i
on Mon, May 27, 2002, Thomas Good ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> > really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
> > You wanna talk about bitter? South C
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 17:54, Keith Willoughby wrote:
> Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > CIA's "School of the Americas" trained military men from most countries
> > > in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
> > > economically and politically all of the co
Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > CIA's "School of the Americas" trained military men from most countries
> > in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
> > economically and politically all of the coups d'etat during the '70s,
> > mainly to stop the lefty polit
> This contradiction is only apparent.
> While it's perhaps true that most citizen of the USA (*) are pacifist,
> most of them are also unaware of what their government _actually_ do in
> the matter of foriegn affairs.
This is true, but I think most US citizens prefer to not know these
things,
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> > Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took
> > Pearl Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant". It actually created a
> > giant "superpower" as we like to refer to ours
On Monday 27 May 2002 05:02 am, Thomas Good wrote:
[snip]
> I've come to regard (former President) Jimmy Carter as a sort of Yank
> version of Gandhi. He works hard to help people in need (Habitat for
> Humanity), uses his influence for the common good (trying to normalise
> relations with Castro)
On 2002.05.27 08:02 Thomas Good wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March
Sea').
> You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state
motto
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:02:33AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
> But our behaviour as a nation is still young and foolish - maybe if
> our elected officials served their country rather than their wallets
> we would mature as nation, at a faster pace. I think the lacking
Unfortunately, the legisl
I just realized I started this thread, several topics ago!
> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
Unless fascism takes root in the United States itself. Please read my essay
"Is This the America I Love"
http://www.goingware.com/not
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
> You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state motto
> is 'WE didn't surrender'
Ian,
I'
Would you "deep thinker" mind taking this tread offline.
Or maybe start a new list "debian-soapbox
Thanks,
David
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
>> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
>
> There's t
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
There's that superiority complex again.
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On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
> Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant". It actually created a giant
> "superpower" as we like to refer to ourselves. Then on Sept. 11 the
> giant awoke again. If so
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 23:02, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
> > crap
> > > > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that O
On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
>
> > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
crap
> > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was
a
> > great place to base a lot of Operations.
>
> Most Americans
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
>
> > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
> > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
> > great place to base a lot of Operations.
>
> Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifis
> Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
> bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
> great place to base a lot of Operations.
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant".
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:38, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
>
> >
> > There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
> > get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
> > to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what ou
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:05, John wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >[snip]
> >
> >>To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> >>Oregonians
On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what our allies are like
what would we expect in say an invasion from Cimme
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
It's
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 06:57, Thomas Good wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> By the way gents, there was no helicopter involved at Kent State.
2 days before the Massacre, there was a helicopter used to
try a
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 07:57:27AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
> about this insensitive behaviour. This sort of thing is not taught
> in American schools perhaps because it is seemingly at odds with our
> democratic principles. The less polished side of US history is covered
> well by Howard Zinn
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
> >
> > You aren't talking about
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 00:41, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
> >
> > You aren't talkin
begin Craig Dickson quotation:
> (Hah. NOW we'll have a flamewar.)
Look, guys, it was a JOKE. J - O - K - E. JOKE. Not meant to be taken
seriously.
Craig
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> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
>> but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
>> ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
>> not speaking Japanese, and the Bri
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
>
> You aren't talking about Kent State are you?
I think that's where it was, I c
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 22:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
> > but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
> > ments, not the least of which is making sure that
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 23:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> As much as US action was admirable during World War II, I've noticed
> that pretty much every American accomplishment mentioned in casual
> conversation is extremely violent, and yet Americans still refer to
> America as a peace-loving nation. Ri
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
> but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
> ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
> not speaking Japanese, and the Brits now
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:00:51PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Not only that, nobody even DARED to post complaining "stay on topic,
> please !"... :)
My only real disappointment is the subject line I put on when the topic
changed didn't stick...
apt-get install debian-beer
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On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
> To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
It's not a "bizarre" superio
> > If you want to spend less than US $30, then unless you find a real
> > bargain somewhere, you're stuck with California sparkling wines, in
> > which case Domain Chandon is a reasonable choice.
>
> We've sampled Gloria Ferrer Fridays at work, it's passable dry
> bubbly. I should ask around for s
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
> aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
> Canadians (two countries whose inhabitants are well-known for their
> inferiority complexes).
begin Karsten M. Self quotation:
> I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
> distro has 100+ post flamewars on beer?
Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
Canadians (tw
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 09:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> > Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
> > industry
>
> Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
>
> > I'm coming up wit
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
> industry
Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
> I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
> distro has
on Thu, May 23, 2002, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Glyn Millington wrote:
>
> > When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
>
> By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
> champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
> being picky
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:33:38PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Guinness's cans even have a little gadget inside to pump up the head as
> you pour it out.
Interesting... are there any good pictures on the web of a Guinness can
disected? My roommates aren't into Guinness (preferring Moosehead, b
Glyn Millington wrote:
> When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
being picky about the nomenclature -- then again, I've yet to find a
"sparkling wine" to
begin Ron Johnson quotation:
> Czech beers are tops. Staropraman 12 is the uber-beer. Too
> bad it's not available stateside. The pasteurization and
> travel across the pond in big, hot cargo ships would probably
> kill the taste...
That may explain why I have not been particularly impressed
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rich Puhek writes:
>> Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
>> pretty good too.
>
> Leinenkugel's.
Leinenkugel's, schmeinenkugels!! When woody emerges, what's the best
champagne?
Glyn
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Rich Puhek writes:
> Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
> pretty good too.
Leinenkugel's.
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On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 13:06, Rich Puhek wrote:
> Gary Turner wrote:
> >
[snip]
> > German imports to the US are good to very good for the most part.
> > Haven't found an outstanding brew (yet).
>
> German beer doesn't really count if it leaves the country. Gotta try one
> of the local brews, non-
Gary Turner wrote:
>
> Guiness absolutely sets the standard, especially if you can find it on
> tap and nitrogen charged. I've been favorably impressed by some other
> Irish beers (but not recently nor often enough to name names).
>
...But with Guiness you need to use a fork to drink your beer!
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