Re: OFF-TOPIC - cyberseguranca

2024-06-12 Thread Yuri Musachio
024, at 10:05 am, luigui wrote: > Bom dia Vitor, > > nao sei se classificaria completamente como OFF-TOPIC > Visto que configuracoes em nossas distros Debian poderao oportunamente serem > criadas sobre programas que venham a auxiliar no reconhecimento de chamadas. > Nao es

Re: OFF-TOPIC - cyberseguranca

2024-06-12 Thread luigui
Bom dia Vitor, nao sei se classificaria completamente como OFF-TOPIC Visto que configuracoes em nossas distros Debian poderao oportunamente serem criadas sobre programas que venham a auxiliar no reconhecimento de chamadas. Nao estendendo, mas ja sao criadas antenas domesticas por agressores

Re: OFF-TOPIC - cyberseguranca

2024-06-12 Thread Vitor Hugo
Bom dia, Isto é um OFF-TOPIC. Desconheço esse tipo de ataque, mas teoricamente se para isto funcionar deveria ser feito por uma chamada pela internet, acredito que somente por voz sem internet isso não seja possível. Porem sei que aqui na lista possuem pessoas muito informadas e

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-26 Thread Leandro Cunha
Olá, Em sáb., 25 de mai. de 2024, 12:16, Atenágoras Silva escreveu: > Talvez seja o caso de levar esta questão à mídia independente, tipo "The > Intercept". > As empresas de telefonia não fazem nada porque, talvez, as medidas simples > para impedir que isto aconteça seja mais caro do que deixar

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-25 Thread Atenágoras Silva
__ > > De: Leandro Cunha > > Enviado: sexta-feira, maio 24, 2024 2:22:35 PM > > Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org < > debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org> > > Assunto: Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha > > > > Olá, &

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Leandro Cunha
conhecimento a público. Se passar na TV quem sabe as > operadoras se mechem. > > > De: Leandro Cunha > Enviado: sexta-feira, maio 24, 2024 2:22:35 PM > Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org > > Assunto: Re: Off Topic - Rede das Op

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Paulo Correia
: Leandro Cunha Enviado: sexta-feira, maio 24, 2024 2:22:35 PM Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Assunto: Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha Olá, On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 8:38 AM Paulo Correia wrote: > > > As centrais telefônicas, estão fazendo ligações se pas

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread luigui
Exato Leandro, os bancos se limitam a dizer que devemos seguir a cartilha sobre seguranca. Ocorre que ferramentas sao desenvolvidas crescentemente para recolhimento de dados e posterior ataques. Sem atribuicoes de culpa por falta de investimento em cyberseguranca, redes de comunicacoes

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Paulo Correia
sabendo as operadoras se mechem. From: luigui Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:46:34 PM To: Paulo Correia ; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha No meu caso, recebo em media 4 a 5 ligacoes diarias de entidades que

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Paulo Correia
Onde está escrito "brincar" leia-se "binar". Corretor Maledeto Obter o Outlook para Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Paulo Correia Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 10:45:54 AM To: luigui ; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Leandro Cunha
Olá, On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 8:38 AM Paulo Correia wrote: > > > As centrais telefônicas, estão fazendo ligações se passando por qualquer > número. > Todas as operadoras tem que se unir para colocar senha na Rede, assim impedir > que isso ocorra. > Ou seja podem utilizar o seu número para fazer

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread luigui
8765-4321 com qq DDD *From:* luigui *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:09:39 AM *To:* debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org *Subject:* Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha Gostaria de saber melhor sobre esse assunto. Acho que o zelo da credibilidade da lista compete a todos. Mesmo que se

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread Paulo Correia
tir de um número que você tem. Não de um que você inventou. Ex: 98765-4321 com qq DDD From: luigui Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:09:39 AM To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha Gostaria de saber melho

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-24 Thread luigui
Gostaria de saber melhor sobre esse assunto. Acho que o zelo da credibilidade da lista compete a todos. Mesmo que seja algo noticioso, e' valido discutirmos. On 23/05/2024 12:55, Atenágoras Silva wrote: Pode explicar melhor o problema? Em qui., 23 de mai. de 2024 às 08:38, Paulo Correia

Re: Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-23 Thread Atenágoras Silva
Pode explicar melhor o problema? Em qui., 23 de mai. de 2024 às 08:38, Paulo Correia escreveu: > > As centrais telefônicas, estão fazendo ligações se passando por qualquer > número. > Todas as operadoras tem que se unir para colocar senha na Rede, assim > impedir que isso ocorra. > Ou seja

Off Topic - Rede das Operadoras sem senha

2024-05-23 Thread Paulo Correia
As centrais telefônicas, estão fazendo ligações se passando por qualquer número. Todas as operadoras tem que se unir para colocar senha na Rede, assim impedir que isso ocorra. Ou seja podem utilizar o seu número para fazer chamada sem utilizar sem telefone/celular e com isso aplicar golpes.

Re: [off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 May 2024 at 21:52:05 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:27:58 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > >Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack > >its birth name ? > > Happens all the time (just saying - not condoning); > > Solid State Drive -

Re: [off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:27:58 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: Hello Thomas, >Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack >its birth name ? Happens all the time (just saying - not condoning); Solid State Drive - referring to HDs without moving parts. BITD, Solid State

[off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brad Rogers quoted: > macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack its birth name ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 "ISO 9660 traces its roots to the High Sierra Format, [...] In November 1985, representatives of computer

off-topic spamassassin issue

2024-02-18 Thread Byunghee HWANG
Hellow Debian Hackers, This email[0]. The submitter use reportbug(1) program of Debian. And it seems that submitter use `reportbug.debian.org' as relay SMTP. And the contents are good i think. By the way, SpamAssassin did mark as SPAM (X-Spam-Flag: YES). What do you guys think about this

[outrageously off-topic] All those Thomas [was: cronitor.io for monitoring cron jobs]

2023-09-11 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 05:08:04PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 06:49:00PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 05:31:45PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > and we're all twins [1] ;-) > > > > [1]

SOLUCIONADO Re: OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-25 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Gracias estimado. Me funcionó perfecto. Pero tuve que hacer algunas cosas que yo no sabía: primero modifiqué el archivo ovpn directamente y no el archivo que estaba alojado /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/vpn.nmconnection Saludos

Re: OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-25 Thread Camaleón
El 2023-06-24 a las 18:09 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: > me sigue saliendo el mismo mensaje de error. Vaya :-? ¿Te conectas mediante consola o algún componente gráfico? > Alguna otra alternativa? Revisa este otro hilo, el error parece bastante común y la solución rápida pasa por

Re: OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-23 Thread Camaleón
El 2023-06-23 a las 15:13 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: > Le agregué > > |tls-cipher=DEFAULT:@SECLEVEL=0| > > > al archivo /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/vpn.nmconnection > > que estaba vacio y no cambió nada. > > alguna otra alternativa? Prueba a ver si tras reiniciar

Re: OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-23 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Le agregué |tls-cipher=DEFAULT:@SECLEVEL=0| al archivo /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/vpn.nmconnection que estaba vacio y no cambió nada. alguna otra alternativa?

Re: OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-22 Thread Camaleón
El 2023-06-21 a las 16:23 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: > Amigos: > > Usaba debian 11 con una VPN sin ningún problema. Realizo una instalación > limpia de Debian 12 y ahora me sale esto > > 2023-06-21 09:56:28 WARNING: Compression for receiving enabled. Compression > has been used

OFF TOPIC - openvpn en Debian 12 error

2023-06-21 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
Amigos: Usaba debian 11 con una VPN sin ningún problema. Realizo una instalación limpia de Debian 12 y ahora me sale esto 2023-06-21 09:56:28 WARNING: Compression for receiving enabled. Compression has been used in the past to break encryption. Sent packets are not compressed unless

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread gene heskett
On 12/26/22 08:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 08:15:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Hi Gene :) debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the Robin Nano 1.2 board that

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.12.2022 18:15, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; ... One path involves Visual Studio which does not seem to be available for debian, so it appears the platformio path is the one to follow. But step by step instructions are pretty slim. Can anyone help get me started? I don't have any

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 08:15:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > Hi Gene :) > debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. > trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the > Robin Nano 1.2 board that drove a two trees sapphire 5 plus. The

off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the Robin Nano 1.2 board that drove a two trees sapphire 5 plus. The blown board has been replaced with a newer Robin Nano 3.1 board, with TMC2209

Re: Off topic - Distribuição de media centraliada / Controle de TVs

2022-09-20 Thread ubuntu
Olá Maurício Para gestão de conteúdos e canais, tem a solução Tvheadend. On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 11:29:06 AM WEST Mauricio Neto wrote: > Amigos da lista bom dia. > > Estou em busca de uma solução para duas questões e como aqui na listas > temos "sabedores de tudo" recorro a ajuda dos

Off topic - Distribuição de media centraliada / Controle de TVs

2022-09-20 Thread Mauricio Neto
Amigos da lista bom dia. Estou em busca de uma solução para duas questões e como aqui na listas temos "sabedores de tudo" recorro a ajuda dos amigos. Preciso distribuir vídeos institucionais para diversas TVs instaladas remotamente. A ideia é que o ponto onde os equipamentos estejam

off topic OPORTUNIDADE DE TRABALHO

2022-09-08 Thread Márcio Pedroso
boa noite, um amigo precisa de alguem para auxiliar em um projeto de um servidor linux que precisa de configuraçoes quanto a segurança entre projetos que vao ser executados nele segue o email dele é c...@agil.net -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?

Off topic bastante personal. Re: problema con Processing, Java y OpenGL

2022-08-02 Thread Daniel
Gracias por la atención Camaleón, y disculpas el html :) Ando con mala racha, me suelen hostigar mis amigos por "viejo" y "arcaico defensor del texto plano", una vez que uso html para poner una negrita me critican!! con razón :) La mala racha incluye covid (aunque bien leve por tener 4 dosis

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-26 Thread Mauricio Neto
e da outra aplicação, não vai funcionar. Se copiou com o banco funcionando(mysql startado), provavelmente corrompeu os arquivos. Espero ter ajudado. Em sex., 22 de abr. de 2022 às 19:25, Mauricio Neto escreveu: Amigo boa tarde. Desculpe o off topic já que se

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-25 Thread Mauricio Neto
ricio Neto escreveu: Amigo boa tarde. Desculpe o off topic já que se trata de um problema de mysql e não Debian mas como nesta comunidade temos conhecedores de tudo relato uma situação muito estranha na esperança que algum dos amigos já tenham visto algo pa

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-24 Thread Helio Loureiro
ão fez assim e só copiou os datafiles do bacula e da outra > aplicação, não vai funcionar. Se copiou com o banco funcionando(mysql > startado), provavelmente corrompeu os arquivos. > > Espero ter ajudado. > > Em sex., 22 de abr. de 2022 às 19:25, Mauricio Neto > escreveu: > &

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-23 Thread Mauricio Neto
, Mauricio Neto escreveu: Amigo boa tarde. Desculpe o off topic já que se trata de um problema de mysql e não Debian mas como nesta comunidade temos conhecedores de tudo relato uma situação muito estranha na esperança que algum dos amigos já tenham visto algo parecido, ou posam

Re: OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-22 Thread Gustavo Villela Goulart
funcionando(mysql startado), provavelmente corrompeu os arquivos. Espero ter ajudado. Em sex., 22 de abr. de 2022 às 19:25, Mauricio Neto escreveu: > Amigo boa tarde. > > Desculpe o off topic já que se trata de um problema de mysql e não Debian > mas como nesta comunidade temos con

OFF TOPIC - Problemas com mysql

2022-04-22 Thread Mauricio Neto
Amigo boa tarde. Desculpe o off topic já que se trata de um problema de mysql e não Debian mas como nesta comunidade temos conhecedores de tudo relato uma situação muito estranha na esperança que algum dos amigos já tenham visto algo parecido, ou posam indicar um forum mais apropriado

Re: off topic-cura question

2022-02-05 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 05/02/2022 12:13, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have an address that willl actually get to the Ultimaker-cura developers? I have a wish, bug to report. Thanks all, pm's ok. Cheers, Gene Heskett. Might this be a good place to start?: https://support.ultimaker.com/hc/en-us

off topic-cura question

2022-02-05 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Does anyone have an address that willl actually get to the Ultimaker-cura developers? I have a wish, bug to report. Thanks all, pm's ok. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Many thanks - now it's back to normal! (whatever that is in these Covid days!) On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 12:17, piorunz wrote: > On 29/11/2021 12:02, Terence wrote: > > Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always > > been impressed by the support given on the Debian

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread piorunz
On 29/11/2021 12:02, Terence wrote: Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always been impressed by the support given on the Debian lists - wonderful! You are most welcome! Now as you have working firefox, you can import everything from old profile if you are using

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always been impressed by the support given on the Debian lists - wonderful! On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 11:03, piorunz wrote: > Please try new profile. > > firefox-esr -P > > is the command to run. Usually everything works on clean,

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread piorunz
Please try new profile. firefox-esr -P is the command to run. Usually everything works on clean, new profile. When you confirm that, you can concentrate to restore your old profile to working order. On 29/11/2021 09:43, Terence wrote: Thank you, all. I'm not running NoScript but thank you for

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Thank you, all. I'm not running NoScript but thank you for the suggestion. It does seem strange as I'v e used it for years with no problem. On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 19:31, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. November 2021, 20:22:25 CET schrieb > harrywea...@tutanota.com: > > Running debian/stable,

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 28. November 2021, 20:22:25 CET schrieb harrywea...@tutanota.com: Running debian/stable, amd64, fully updated. No problems here. Just a guess: Are you running NoScript plugin im Firefox? Maybe it is not trusted. Have fun! Hans > > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Nicolas George
Terence (12021-11-28): > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no > search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ I do not know if it is related, but I have observed problems of parts of some pages not displaying, or

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread harryweaver
-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. 29 Nov 2021, 02:22 by terence.j...@gmail.com: > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search > result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ > > No problem here, on

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/11/2021 à 17:22, Terence a écrit : Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/ Works for me (but I do not use the firefox package, I use the upstream software)

Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Terence
Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/

[Off topic] Linux lynxes. was: Re: question from total newbie.

2021-10-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I've been installing debian since sarge and remember > no lynx code word attached to any debian version. There was an Ubuntu release named Lucid Lynx, 11 years ago. (My bet is that it won't run on a contemporary laptop.) Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Andy Smith
bts about. One of the common defences of the abundance of off-topic posting here is that with proper use of a mail client they are easy to ignore. I would also suggest that with proper use of a mail client one can set followups to another place, i.e. the off-topic place. In such a way, an experie

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 9:04 a.m., Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a >> change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core >> purpose > > 100% agree. I'm another long

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a > change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core > purpose 100% agree. I'm another long time subscriber here and this is just bonkers lately. The

Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...]

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 4:34 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:27:08AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> >> >> On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: >>> Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > [...] > >>> You see yourself in a role to correct someone ...

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 4:04 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: > > [...] > >> Do you really think it's that bad? > > I actually agree that it is manageable. OTOH, things are > changing, and change must be tackled. > > Community is these days more

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:27:08AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: > > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > > moral superiority syndrome. > > >

Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...]

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 3:47 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:18:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > [...] > >> You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with >> moral superiority syndrome. > > This is a crudely obvious flamebait. Why do you do this? >

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
>> What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing >> over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by >> giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what's >> acceptable and not. But don't seem t

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: Do you really think it's that bad? Yes. I can remember back when I would wake up in the morning to have over 300 list messages on screen. And, many of those were Off-Topic but, usually, people were reasonably active in labelling them

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: [...] > Do you really think it's that bad? I actually agree that it is manageable. OTOH, things are changing, and change must be tackled. Community is these days more diverse than it used to be. This is a Good Thing, but it makes

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Weaver
On 19-08-2021 16:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >>What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing >>over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touche

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:18:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > moral superiority syndrome. This is a crudely obvious flamebait. Why do you do this? - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread deloptes
g > over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by > giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what's > acceptable and not. But don't seem to understand that the community > itself made the choice of having this list un-moderated. >

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
ere.  But, >>> such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* >>> of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that >>> d-community-offtopic served that purpose? My general feeling is >>> things are worse now than they we

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-17 7:04 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a >> lot >> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. &g

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Brian
if it gets used *instead* > > of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that > > d-community-offtopic served that purpose? My general feeling is > > things are worse now than they were when d-community-offtopic was > > around and active, but I'm not sure that thi

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread deloptes
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the > official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere.  But, > such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* > of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone th

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27:17 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > I think the primary use case of debian-user-offtopic would be to > have a place for people on debian-user to tell others to move > their threads. That sounds like a useful thing -- somebody could point out that a post is o

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > > lot > > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. > > I think the way forward th

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a lot of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the official Debian mailing list

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Weaver
On 18-08-2021 09:04, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a >> lot >> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. &g

[WAY OFF-TOPIC] Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread John Hasler
Amp-hr capacity purports to be an indication of the amount of charge (not energy) that you can put into a cell and expect to get back out assuming defined end-point voltages. It doesn't really work well as a measure of the ability of a cell to store energy but we're stuck with it for historical

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > lot > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. Nice? Really? There was one. It failed abysmally in its task. The boys and g

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 06:21:30 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 03:36:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I guess the measure of the charge (18 maHrs vs. 120 maHrs) is not the > > charge "contained" in the battery, but instead the amount of charge > > required to

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 03:36:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 03:26:19 PM Weaver wrote: > > On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Somewhat relevant to the subject of an off-topic mailing list, I'm now > > > puzzling

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Terence
I would join an off-topic list as I have seen many interesting off-topic topics raised here over the last couple of decades (when you measure time in decades it's probably time to go back to counting in years!). Terence On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 at 20:37, wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 03

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 03:26:19 PM Weaver wrote: > On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Somewhat relevant to the subject of an off-topic mailing list, I'm now > > puzzling over why an NiMH AA battery tested to hold 18 maHrs seems to > > power an LED flash

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Weaver
On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 10:54:34 AM SDA wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:26:34AM -0400, SDA wrote: >> > > BTW there has been an off-topic

Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 10:54:34 AM SDA wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:26:34AM -0400, SDA wrote: > > > BTW there has been an off-topic list introduced by a community member, > > > but it

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread Joe
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:41:37 +0200 wrote: > "Any sufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from > stupidity" > > (some call that "plausible deniability"). > > "People would rather appear stupid than evil". -- Joe

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:46:34AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > While I'm not a fan of Microsoft: > > >

[Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
e side plates of the box. It is unfortunate that Intel and Microsoft could not bring themselves to create an independent institution which authorizes the legitimate boot programs which are acceptable by default. -------- As we are already off

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 09:58:13AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > I'm told that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" > headers for DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do anything > else to handle DMARC-enabled senders. Correct, so the SPF test will always fail as the

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread deloptes
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with > others here: > > I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told > that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers for > DMARC-enabl

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread Dan Ritter
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with > others here: > > I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told that > the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers for DMARC-enabled &g

Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with others here: I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers for DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do anything else to han

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a > video after it was depublicated by state TV. The concept of Depublication > is technically an unrealistic fiction and also a blow to the payers of > state TV fees ("Rundfunkgebuehren"). > > Given the

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Joe
On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about > environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then > available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever. > Even the WEF are fairly upfront

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old > > environmental hog"), sung by a children choir Michael Lange wrote: > Still seems to be available on yt, though. Legally it could now be "Zeitgeschichte" (= "contemporary history") and thus be exempted from

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > i really do not see any such censoring with the video about > > environmental problems with electrical cars. deloptes wrote: > But it was on youtube and was removed and I could not find it I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a video after it was

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: (...) > The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the > legal framework of german state TV. (In german: > "Rundfunkstaatsvertrag", now "Medienstaatsvertrag".) > > State run TV collects mandatory fees from all

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember > the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old > environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station > WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Lange wrote: > Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video > for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained > any further. The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the legal framework of german state TV.

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
re enough to further investigate, you can certainly see the details during the closing credits. But all this is really far off-topic here, so i guess this discussion should better come to an end. I hope you enjoy the film! Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Michael Lange wrote: > now I got curious too. > Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video > for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained > any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to earn money by > somehow selling their

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