* Richard Cobbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020516 18:05]:
> Lo, on Thursday, May 16, Cam Ellison did write:
> > set editor="emacs '+/^$' \"set textwidth=70\""
> I'm not entirely sure what the '+/^$' means---is this perhaps a Mutt
> thing?
No, it's a vim thing.
> The `set textwidth=70' is almost certai
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:32:05AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> Many times, people using mutt, for example, do PGP signatures
> which will often cause their messages to show up to OE users
> as a blank e-mail (1) with two attachments. One attachment is
> a text file containing their message. The
Hi Cam,
Ok, set up a POP server on your own box, and create accounts for these
people. Get them to log into your POP server with emails that you've
sent there from mutt. Hopefully they'll be rejected and then you can see
from the logs which you'll now have access to what the error responces
are.
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On 17 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
> You're describing a different bug in OE. There are so many
> from which to choose...
And as demonstrated here, they all have similar effects with many
different causes...
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Baloo
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On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
[snip]
| The bug you describe is caused when it recieves a message that
| starts with "begin " and isn't starting a uuencoded file. OE users
| will attest to this as this particular post will trigger that bug.
Oh, yeah, that bu
Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The symptoms of the gpg thing are that the Outlook user gets
>> the e-mail, but instead of treating it as a signed message, it
>> treats it as an empty message with an attachment (or something
>> like that).
>
> I think you're getting your bugs m
> On Thu, 16 May 2002, "cam" == Cam Ellison wrote:
cam> set editor="emacs '+/^$' \"set textwidth=70\""
Nope. On my system this tells emacs to edit a file named (something like)
"textwidth=70". Look at your list of buffers when you use this command string.
cam> What should I do differen
I have had my suspicions about the existence of some such thing, but
being no expert on M$ (I was an OS/2 user before Linux), I have not
been sure where to look. I shall go looking for it (my kids' machine
will run Win98 for up to an hour before it GPFs). :-)
Thank you, sir
Cam
* Paul 'Baloo' J
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:10:30PM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
> Thank you, Richard. I don't know about the '+/^$' bit either - I
> cribbed my .muttrc from someone else, and dutifully copied that bit.
Looks like both that and the textwidth setting came from a vim user.
'+/^$' will tell vim to go to
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Cam Ellison wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge, they do not. It is difficult for me to
> actually get into each of the machines in question and play around,
> since they are some distance away (anywhere from 40 km across a larg
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begin On 16 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:
> The symptoms of the gpg thing are that the Outlook user gets
> the e-mail, but instead of treating it as a signed message, it
> treats it as an empty message with an attachment (or something
> like that).
Similar advice from two of you -- Alan and yourself. I have tried
your route, and I see that is is finally wrapping as I write. This is
a great relief.
Thank you, all, very much.
Now, I just need to straighten out my problems with a couple of
service providers.
Thanks again
Cam
* Bob Bernst
> On Thu, 16 May 2002, "cam" == Cam Ellison wrote:
cam> set editor="emacs '+/^$' \"set textwidth=70\""
Nope. On my system this tells emacs to edit a file named (something like)
"textwidth=70". Look at your list of buffers when you use this command string.
cam> What should I do differen
On 0, Cam Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hate replying to my own posts, but I see that it did not work. But then, I
> forgot to restart mutt, which wasn't very clever. Sorry to take the
> bandwidth, but I need to test this so I can quit annoying everyone.
Evidently not. Since you see
Cam Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> set editor="emacs '+/^$' \"set textwidth=70\""
Put this in your .emacs:
(setq default-major-mode 'text-mode)
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
--
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
Tact is the art of making a point w
I hate replying to my own posts, but I see that it did not work. But then, I
forgot to restart mutt, which wasn't very clever. Sorry to take the bandwidth,
but I need to test this so I can quit annoying everyone.
* Cam Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Thank you, Richard. I don't know abo
Thank you, Richard. I don't know about the '+/^$' bit either - I cribbed my
.muttrc from someone else, and dutifully copied that bit.
So I have followed your advice, andmade the changes. I had not set up xemacs,
and of course it has done its own thing, so we shall see the results now. I am
d
Lo, on Thursday, May 16, Cam Ellison did write:
> * Gary Hennigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> >
> > And, *please*, for the love of God and country, can you wrap your
> > lines at 70 characters or so?!
> >
>
> I would love to, but every attempt seems to go nowhere. Not everyone
> complains,
* Gary Hennigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> And, *please*, for the love of God and country, can you wrap your
> lines at 70 characters or so?!
>
I would love to, but every attempt seems to go nowhere. Not everyone
complains,
but I see the litle red markers coming back indicating that mutt
"Cam Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess alittle more information is in order. Some of this is
> repeated elsewhere in this thread. I have a cable hookup, and am
> using exim (3.35) as my MTA. Messages I send from mutt go to just
> about everyone, but there are at least three exceptio
I guess alittle more information is in order. Some of this is repeated
elsewhere in this thread. I have a cable hookup, and am using exim (3.35) as
my MTA. Messages I send from mutt go to just about everyone, but there are at
least three exceptions, all using an ISP other than my own.
Case
I think that the presence of Exchange has some influence here. It certainly is
not in use in the other cases.
Well, this does help to narrow the inquiry. A little more digging reveals that
the culprit versions of OE and Outlook are apparently R1 (5.00.2615.200, and
9.0.2416, respectively).
EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Received no problem
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cam Ellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: Jamin Collins
> > Cc: Jamin W. Collins
> > Subject: Re: Problems: mutt
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:15:48AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
> I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it, with one exception:
> anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express on a PC cannot receive mail from
> me. This does not apply to Outlook Express running on a Mac.
Hi Cam,
I've nev
* Matthew Sackman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 09:55:33AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
> > * Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
> > >
> Hmm. Do the emails even arrive? How are they getting them: is it
> download from POP or IM
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 02:06:15PM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
> Find an OE user who can access their e-mail via some sort of
> "webmail". Send them a message. Have them check to see if they
> get the message via "webmail". If it's not there, this isn't
> an OE problem (nor Debian) and possibly no
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 09:55:33AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
> * Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
> >
> > > I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it,
> > Me too.
> > > with one exception: anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express
> >
I have suspected as much, all along, but needed to be sure. I note some
interesting differences:
The peole that do not receive have either Outlook Express 5 or Outlook build 9.
Those that seem to work (yours included) have either OE 6 or Outlook build 10.
M$ has done it again!
Thanks for t
This is now your friends problems, not you or your mutt... ;-)
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From: "Cam Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hall Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian-User"
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Problems:
OK. Here you are.
* Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I have no idea. The messages simply fail to show up.
> > Baloo suggests I should get out the strong arm, but
> > your experience suggests that I need to set something
> > {differently, or unset it}. I do not use gpg (yet), as Ha
> ... I do not use gpg (yet), as Hall Stevenson asked. I'm
> reluctant to post my .muttrc file because of the
> bandwidth, but will do so if that will help.
No, even if you use PGP signing, Outlook Express users still
get the message. It's just that the actual message you wrote
is turned into an
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cam Ellison wrote:
>> > with one exception: anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express
>> > on a PC cannot receive mail from me. This does not apply to
>> > Outlook Express running on a Mac.
>> I send mail every day to people running Outlook and Outlook
>> Express
> I have no idea. The messages simply fail to show up.
> Baloo suggests I should get out the strong arm, but
> your experience suggests that I need to set something
> {differently, or unset it}. I do not use gpg (yet), as Hall
> Stevenson asked. I'm reluctant to post my .muttrc file
> because of
* Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
>
> > I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it,
>
> Me too.
>
> > with one exception: anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express
> > on a PC cannot receive mail from me. This does not apply to
> > Outl
In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
> I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it,
Me too.
> with one exception: anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express
> on a PC cannot receive mail from me. This does not apply to
> Outlook Express running on a Mac.
I send mail every day to peopl
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Turn your line wraps on to 72 columns, please.
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Cam Ellison wrote:
> Is there a setting I am missing, or do I have to strong-arm them all
> to use Eudora (which also works fine)? Getting them onto Linux is
> another step, but one
> I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it,
> with one exception: anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook
> Express on a PC cannot receive mail from me. This does
> not apply to Outlook Express running on a Mac.
I'm at work, running Outlook Express, and I rec'd this message
fine. Then agai
I use mutt as my MUA, and am happy as a clam with it, with one exception:
anyone who runs Outlook or Outlook Express on a PC cannot receive mail from me.
This does not apply to Outlook Express running on a Mac.
Is there a setting I am missing, or do I have to strong-arm them all to use
Eudora
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