Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-04-01 Thread Chris Davies
Ron Leach wrote: > And London is going to shift from UTC to its local daylight saving time, > British summer Time, BST, sometime in the next week or so. Pendantically speaking, not really. We were on GMT and are now on BST. UTC is invariant, and although it just so happens that GMT is the same as

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/22/2014 11:51 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:10:32PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 3/21/2014 10:08 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: The time needs to be accurate TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS time ignores leap se

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:10:32PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 3/21/2014 10:08 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >Jerry Stuckle writes: > >>The time needs to be accurate > > > >TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS > >time ignores leap seconds. It's what scientists most

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-22 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/22/2014 9:58 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: That wouldn't work well. Remember, computers are not the only ones which use UTC - in fact they are the most imprecise. There are many clocks around the world which are synchronized with UTC via radio, i.e. WWV/WWVH in the Un

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-22 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Jerry Stuckle writes: > That wouldn't work well. Remember, computers are not the only ones which > use UTC - in fact they are the most imprecise. There are many clocks > around > the world which are synchronized with UTC via radio, i.e. WWV/WWVH in the > United States, CHU in Canada, and other sta

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 10:14 PM, John Hasler wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second#Proposal_to_abolish_leap_seconds This is hardly the first time this has been proposed. I remember it way back in the 60's. There are advantages and disadvantages to it. So far the disadvantages have outwei

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 10:08 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: The time needs to be accurate TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS time ignores leap seconds. It's what scientists most often use for precise timing. Not all of them. Many use UTC. UTC is read

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second#Proposal_to_abolish_leap_seconds -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.de

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes: > The time needs to be accurate TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS time ignores leap seconds. It's what scientists most often use for precise timing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 5:35 PM, John Hasler wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second More TAI seconds have accumulated since 1972 than have UTC seconds because the Earth is slowing down an

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
I chose the posix time for Europe/London and the seconds are in exact step with local time seconds. Martin Ron Leach writes: > On 21/03/2014 20:21, John Hasler wrote: > > > Other way around. TAI does *not* include leap-seconds. It is a > continuous stream of numbered seconds w

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 20:43:37 Ron Leach wrote: > And, like the OP, I don't want to miss the start of radio > programmes because the time isn't correct, aligned, or understood. Never listen to the BBC then. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 20:02:38 Ron Leach wrote: > The OP might want to keep in mind > that the time he thinks he has set his recording to start may be 35 > seconds adrift from when the broadcaster might start.  At least, he > might want to check what time he uses, and what time the > broadcaster

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second More TAI seconds have accumulated since 1972 than have UTC seconds because the Earth is slowing down and so to keep UTC in sync with the Earth it

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 20:21, John Hasler wrote: Other way around. TAI does *not* include leap-seconds. It is a continuous stream of numbered seconds with no gaps and no insertions. UTC *does* include leap seconds. It is TAI adjusted to stay within one second of Earth rotation time. Leap seconds acco

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Ron Leach writes: > Interesting. The readme in Wheezy states that TAI includes 'leap > seconds' (the extra seconds added - every so often, a year or so - to > compensate for variations in Earth's rotation) and implies that the > UTC time basis does *not* include the leap seconds. I wonder if that

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 02:58, Don Armstrong wrote: [,,,] due to the 35 second difference between TAI and UTC. (The latter approximates UT1 (earth revolution about its axis), and the former is absolute time in SI seconds). You can read about it in /usr/share/doc/tzdata/README.Debian. Interesting. The

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/03/2014 17:18, Brian a écrit : > On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > >> There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as >> system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), >> which uses local time only (eg. Windows) and now i cannot find this >

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:18:22 + Brian napísal: > On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > > > There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as > > system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), > > which uses local time only (eg. Windows) a

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as > system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), > which uses local time only (eg. Windows) and now i cannot find this > setting, because it was taken away from /e

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
On a properly-working unix system, the hardware clock is set to UTC. In theory, every unix system in the world has a hardware clock that reads the same value at the same time. The localtime file is a set of rules that adjusts your UTC clock value to whatever local wall clock time should be.

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:57:08 + Ron Leach napísal: > On 21/03/2014 09:38, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > It is standard "good practice" to keep system time ("hardware > > clock") at UTC, and desktop time can be local time if you wish. > > > > Hadn't realised any of this, so thank you. If

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 09:38, Lisi Reisz wrote: It is standard "good practice" to keep system time ("hardware clock") at UTC, and desktop time can be local time if you wish. Hadn't realised any of this, so thank you. If 'system time' and 'desktop time' differ - such as is suggested - what 'timestamp

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 09:05:37 Ron Leach wrote: > >> I want to record some radio programs and DST and BST don't start > >> and stop at the same times. > > > > The way you do this is you start whatever you're using to record > > the programs with TZ="Europe/London" instead of changing > > /etc/loc

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 02:58, Don Armstrong wrote, very interestingly: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Martin G. McCormick wrote: That's when I discovered that there are 3 Londons and 3 Chicagos. That's due to the 35 second difference between TAI and UTC. (The latter approximates UT1 (earth revolution about its

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > What is the difference between the 3 versions of various time zone > files? I live in the US-Central time zone and wanted to set a debian > system to London time which means replacing /etc/localtime to the file > that coresponds to London. That's wh

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-12-03 Thread Urs Thuermann
Ralf Mardorf writes: > spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/ > total 32 > -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 B22OCT11.CMO > -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Sep 30 2011 B30SEP11.CMO > -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 15644 Nov 10 2011 Hakle-Geld-zurück.o

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-12-03 Thread Urs Thuermann
Ralf Mardorf writes: > If the clock does use local time, then the time for all BIOS and all > Linux files are ok. This is not completely true. If there is change from/to daylight saving time to/from standard time between saving the files using the BIOS and booting your Linux system the kernel w

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-12-03 Thread Urs Thuermann
Ralf Mardorf writes: > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linux, so Linux can't > "translate" UTC to local time, when I save BIOS settings.

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-03 Thread Urs Thuermann
"J. B" writes: > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both > hwclock and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to > UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? Although time, timezones and clock setting are quite a simple topic it seems to be major source of confusio

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-03 Thread J. B
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:47:44 + Roger Leigh wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 12:10:06PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > I have checked my /etc/adjtime and found > > > > [.] > > -0.408399 1354206971 0.00 > > 1354206971 > > UTC > > [..] > > > > So my system is following the UTC :-) > > And a

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 12:10:06PM +0530, J. B wrote: > I have checked my /etc/adjtime and found > > [.] > -0.408399 1354206971 0.00 > 1354206971 > UTC > [..] > > So my system is following the UTC :-) > And also set the H/W clock to UTC with "hwclock --utc --systohc" This all looks g

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-03 Thread Bob Proulx
J. B wrote: > And also set the H/W clock to UTC with "hwclock --utc --systohc" > > still my H/W clock shows local timezone !!! What commands are you using to determine that this is the case? If you have done the suggestions above then your clock should be in UTC. > How can I keep the H/W to UTC

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-02 Thread J. B
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:19:50 + Roger Leigh wrote: > Just make sure that the date is set correctly (run "date" and set it > with "date --set="newdate" if it's wrong). Then run > hwclock --utc --systohc > to set the hardware clock from the system clock in UTC. Look at > /etc/adjtime and you

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 dec 12, 14:19:50, Roger Leigh wrote: [snip] +100, Informative Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:19:50PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > > > If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should be the right way to do that ? > > I have followed "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and found it has changed the > > local time to > >

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-12-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and > system time. Firstly, to clarify, there are two clocks: - hardware clock (UTC or local) - system clock (UTC) The system clock is *always* UTC. Even if you, th

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 21:22 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > There are also services that become quite distressed if the clock > jumps back an hour. OIC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread John Hasler
Ralf Mardorf writes: > That's not true, after running ntpdate everything is ok. Except for anything that happened before ntpdate ran, such as writing logs. And if ntpdate never runs because it can't reach a server you're an hour off. There are also services that become quite distressed if the cl

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:01 -0800, unruh wrote: > In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > > > Exactly, there are no issues when using Linux with the hardware clock > > using local time. > > Yes, there are. If the clock is on localtime, when Linux boots up it > assumes that the bios clock really is on

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: [snip] spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/ total 32 -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 B22OCT11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Sep 30 2011 B30SEP11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 15644 No

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Or think of banking transactions or stock exchange transactions. I guess something like this really is an issue, but I also suspect that this anyway will be handled by special software. Thank you for the explanation, Ralf -- To UNSUBSC

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 16:18:30 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > > On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > > >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 03:54 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2012 10:09:42 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always fav

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 10:09:42 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the > > advantage of doin

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/11/12 03:26 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your timezone. IOW you only have to inform what time hwclock does u

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 22:26 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it > > will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your > > timezone. IOW you only have to in

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 14:09:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > The Linux has to know if the hwclock does use UTC or not and then it > will set up the clock, when running a Linux to the correct time for your > timezone. IOW you only have to inform what time hwclock does use. Yes. > I'm living in Germany, if

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > >> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft ne

Re: time zone and UTC issue [BIOS]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I guess there's a language barrier. Those two files were not saved with Linux and not saved with Windows, they were saved by the BIOS: spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/*.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/B22OCT11.CMO -rw-r--r-- 1 spi

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote: >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the >> >> world has more time zones

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > > > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > >

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's nei

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither > > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linu

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread green
Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600: > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linux, so Linux can't > "translate" UTC to local time, when

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote: > In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the > >> world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times. > > > > Th

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the > world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times. They did and as I already explained, I want to have the local time for the BIOS too. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:37 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > The main issue comes when you're dual-booting with Windows. No Windows on my machine, but as explained in my previous mail, I sometimes store BIOS settings and want the files getting the correct date. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:55 +0530, J. B wrote: > Hello list, > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and > system time. > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? > > If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should be the righ

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 08:44:59, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > So I learned to ignore the time on Windows systems with double boot. Set it to UTC, that way it is at least partially useful. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman

Re: time zone and UTC issue [rant]

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 07:37:49 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the > > advantage

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 07:48:28 J. B wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:37:49 + > > Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both > > > hwclock and system time.

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread J. B
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:37:49 + Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock > > and system time. > > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advant

Re: time zone and UTC issue

2012-11-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock and > system time. > But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the advantage of doing that ? > > If I need my hwclock to UTC then what should b

Re: Time zone utility to read olson database

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Adrian Chapela wrote: > I am looking for tz the reader of olson database (tzdata). Where can I > get it ? I am looking the official > (http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm) URL and I was searching in > Debian repository and I couldn't find any utility to read the database file. zdump? Examples h

Re: Time zone utility to read olson database

2010-12-16 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:45 +0100, Adrian Chapela wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for tz the reader of olson database (tzdata). Where can I > get it ? I am looking the official > (http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm) URL and I was searching in > Debian repository and I couldn't find any utility

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from j j: > >See /etc/default/rcS > > rcS is supposed to check /etc/localtime or > /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern. I dont have those files. Can I > generate those files with a text editor? Weird. No, those come in (or are created by?) the tzdata package. aptitude update && aptitud

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread j j
On 6/25/07, Daniel James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi jj, > The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is there > something as simple as dpkg-reconfigure timezone ? Even easier, you can right click on the clock in Gnome and select Adjust Date & Time :-) > I installed da

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread j j
See /etc/default/rcS rcS is supposed to check /etc/localtime or /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern. I dont have those files. Can I generate those files with a text editor? Please don't post html to mailing lists. Sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
Alan Ianson: > j j: > > The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is > > there something as simple as dpkg-reconfigure timezone ? > > I think tzconfig will setup your time zone. Or in KDE, right click on clock > Show Timezone > Configure Timezones... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread Daniel James
Hi jj, The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is there something as simple as dpkg-reconfigure timezone ? Even easier, you can right click on the clock in Gnome and select Adjust Date & Time :-) I installed datetimeconf It might be best to uninstall that, it co

Re: time zone

2007-06-24 Thread s. keeling
j j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is there See /etc/default/rcS Please don't post html to mailing lists. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux

Re: time zone

2007-06-24 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun, 2007-24-06 at 19:59 +, j j wrote: > Hello > > The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is > there something as simple as dpkg-reconfigure timezone ? I think tzconfig will setup your time zone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-12 Thread Mike Mimic
Hi! > % ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT > -rw-r--r--6 root root 877 > Apr 28 03:56 /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT Uh. This was wrong. I have umask for root set to 077 and so this file wasn't readable for others when script create it. Thanks for help! Mike ___

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-12 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Mike Mimic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hmm. The only other thing I can think of is the > > setting in /etc/login.defs. ENV_TZ is typically > > commented out though. If it's not you might try > > commenting it out, although I would think root > > would be affected if that variable were set. Th

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-12 Thread Mike Mimic
Hi! > Hmm. The only other thing I can think of is the > setting in /etc/login.defs. ENV_TZ is typically > commented out though. If it's not you might try > commenting it out, although I would think root > would be affected if that variable were set. The > root account doesn't have any TZ environme

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-11 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Mike Mimic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do you have any environment variables set that > > relate to the timezone? > > No. I haven't any. > > > Also, make sure the file /etc/timezone contains the > > correct setting for your system > > Yes, it have. And I have tryed some different cities >

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-11 Thread Mike Mimic
Hi! > Do you have any environment variables set that > relate to the timezone? No. I haven't any. > Also, make sure the file /etc/timezone contains the > correct setting for your system Yes, it have. And I have tryed some different cities (in the same timzone) and it's the same. > and make sur

Re: Time(zone) problems

2002-06-11 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Mike Mimic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have some strange time problems. When I run date as > normal user I get time in UTC timezone. And when I > create files they also get timestamp with that time > (and that's wrong time). But as root I don't have that > problems and I have normal CEST time

RE: Time Zone

2002-03-22 Thread Panuganty, Ramesh
Use tzconfig. If you still have a problem, you may have to run "hwclock --systohc" (use --utc option if required) -Ramesh -Original Message- From: Eduardo Gargiulo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:46 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Time Zone Hi a

Re: Time Zone

2002-03-21 Thread Billy Sneed
Run tzconfig. Comes in libc6 I believe. billy Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: > Hi all ... > > i live in Argentina, but my system clock shows Thu Mar 21 23:44:30 EST 2002 > > how can i change it to ART instead of EST? > > TIA > > ~ejg -- You had me at HELO

Re: time zone on linux

2001-11-22 Thread kilaru
Hi Mark Thanks for the reply. But if the timezone changes while daemon is running, simply calling localtime and asctime will not help. Because localtime doesn't look at /etc/localtime from second time onwards unless we set TZ environment variable again to the new value. For that my daemon ne

Re: time zone on linux

2001-11-20 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:57:11PM +0530, kilaru wrote: > Now my doubt is how will I know if root changes timezone while my daemon is > running?( I do not want to kill and restart the daemon). > > If any body knows how to do it please tell me. If your Linux box was setup properly, the system tim

Re: time zone problem

1997-12-05 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Paul Miller wrote: > yes.. tzconfig is correctly set and doesn't give any errors when saving an > updated timezone.. date gives the same results.. Weird. I don't have any other ideas, sorry. -- Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.gate.net/~storm/

Re: time zone problem

1997-12-05 Thread Paul Miller
yes.. tzconfig is correctly set and doesn't give any errors when saving an updated timezone.. date gives the same results.. On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Paul Miller wrote: > > > this happened after compiling glibc, since then I removed the installed > > files (b

Re: time zone problem

1997-12-05 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Paul Miller wrote: > this happened after compiling glibc, since then I removed the installed > files (because they didn't compile right)... > > #date > Fri Dec 5 20:02:14 /usr/local/etc/localtime 1997 > > .. how can I fix this (other than a symlink work around)? I couldn't

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote: > > > *) I've got /bin mounted seperately as r/o. Now, I'd like to move > > /sbin there as well. I assume that what I need to do is to mount > > a new directory (say /mnt/robins) and h

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-03 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On 3 Oct, Will Lowe wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote: > >> Thanks much... I couldn't for the life of me find anything related >> to this in any Linux/Unix books; even scanned /bin,/sbin looking >> for *time*, *zone* - probably never would've found tzconfig > > Yeah,

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-03 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote: > Thanks for all the previous help, I'm pretty well on my way now. > I can actually do usefull work ;-} > > I've got two small problems (w/my computer, we'll not go further...) > *) How do I set the timezone appropriately? > I noticed /

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote: > Thanks much... I couldn't for the life of me find anything related > to this in any Linux/Unix books; even scanned /bin,/sbin looking > for *time*, *zone* - probably never would've found tzconfig Yeah, this is one of those "undocumented fea

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-03 Thread Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\)
Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> *) How do I set the timezone appropriately? >as su, run /sbin/tzconfig > Thanks much... I couldn't for the life of me find anything related to this in any Linux/Unix books; even scanned /bin,/sbin looking for *time*, *zone* - probably never would've foun

Re: Time Zone & mount points

1997-10-03 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote: > Thanks for all the previous help, I'm pretty well on my way now. > I can actually do usefull work ;-} > > I've got two small problems (w/my computer, we'll not go further...) > *) How do I set the timezone appropriately? as su, run /sbin/