On Tue 22 Nov 2016 at 17:51:56 +, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 22 Nov 2016 at 08:38:55 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > On 11/21/2016 11:15 AM, David Wright wrote:
> > >Disclaimer: I have no idea what the subject of this thread is about.
> >
> >
> > If I was going on only on the responses to my
On Tue 22 Nov 2016 at 08:38:55 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/21/2016 11:15 AM, David Wright wrote:
> >Disclaimer: I have no idea what the subject of this thread is about.
>
>
> If I was going on only on the responses to my post starting this sub-thread
> I would wonder myself ;/
Forgetti
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 09:38:04AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 9:16 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >Intermediary agents to mount file systems on behalf of an end user
> >generally fall into two categories:
> >
> > * Automounters.
> See above.
Do you mean THIS PART?
> >>>differs by a
On Tuesday 22 November 2016 15:38:04 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 9:16 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 09:09:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> On 11/21/2016 12:43 PM, Joe wrote:
> >>> While this does not actually constitute automounting, I suggest that it
> >>> di
On 11/22/2016 9:16 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 09:09:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 11/21/2016 12:43 PM, Joe wrote:
While this does not actually constitute automounting, I suggest that it
differs by a single mouse click. And actually, I didn't deduce that
automounting
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 09:09:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/21/2016 12:43 PM, Joe wrote:
> >While this does not actually constitute automounting, I suggest that it
> >differs by a single mouse click. And actually, I didn't deduce that
> >automounting was what the OP wanted,
>
> It is e
On 11/21/2016 12:43 PM, Joe wrote:
[snip]
While this does not actually constitute automounting, I suggest that it
differs by a single mouse click. And actually, I didn't deduce that
automounting was what the OP wanted,
It is explicitly what I do not want.
I said in
https://lists.debian.org/de
On 11/21/2016 11:15 AM, David Wright wrote:
Disclaimer: I have no idea what the subject of this thread is about.
If I was going on only on the responses to my post starting this
sub-thread I would wonder myself ;/
[snip]
Well, I know what my expectations are: to see an idiosyncratic probl
On Monday, November 21, 2016 02:39:04 PM Brian wrote:
> On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 18:43:20 +, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:36:19 +
> >
> > Brian wrote:
> > > Someone deduced "He wants auto-mounting of the inserted media". The
> > > evidence isn't there. Putting one's self in the a us
On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 18:43:20 +, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:36:19 +
> Brian wrote:
>
> > Someone deduced "He wants auto-mounting of the inserted media". The
> > evidence isn't there. Putting one's self in the a user's position is
> > one thing; putting words into his mouth is a
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:36:19 +
Brian wrote:
> On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 18:18:27 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:37:50PM +, Brian wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I cannot recollect or find any mention of the OP wanting to
> > > automount.
> >
> > Not exp
On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 18:18:27 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:37:50PM +, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I cannot recollect or find any mention of the OP wanting to automount.
>
> Not explicitly, sure. The point is, it was implicitly expected, because
> for the OP,
Disclaimer: I have no idea what the subject of this thread is about.
On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 15:11:21 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:34:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:26:45PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > > Well, when the OP wr
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:37:50PM +, Brian wrote:
[...]
> I cannot recollect or find any mention of the OP wanting to automount.
Not explicitly, sure. The point is, it was implicitly expected, because
for the OP, it's the "normal" thing. It Jus
On Monday, November 21, 2016 11:25:13 AM Brian wrote:
> On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 10:37:33 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On my Jessie system, neither pmount nor udisks is installed, but udisks2
> > apparently is, and I suspect it is what provides that functionality on
> > Jessie. There does not
On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 15:13:02 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 02:08:09PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
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> [...]
>
> > >https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/ shows
> > >a set of udev rules that will mount a vfat or ntfs USB stick to
> > >"/media/${Fi
On Mon 21 Nov 2016 at 10:37:33 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On my Jessie system, neither pmount nor udisks is installed, but udisks2
> apparently is, and I suspect it is what provides that functionality on
> Jessie.
> There does not seem to be a =udisks2 --dump= function.
udisksctl dump
On Monday, November 21, 2016 09:11:21 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:34:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:26:45PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > 1) He wants auto-mounting of the inserted media, in the manner of
> > Microsoft
> >
> >
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 02:08:09PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
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> >https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/ shows
> >a set of udev rules that will mount a vfat or ntfs USB stick to
> >"/media/${File System ID or Label}", AND s
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:34:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:26:45PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > Well, when the OP writes "sane" he does not mean sane the program, but
> > rather that he wants reasonable or r
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:53:25PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:18:39AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:51:58PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives
When I plug one into my Debian machine I want totally
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:18:39AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:51:58PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives
When I plug one into my Debian machine I want totally unfettered
read/write access.
[when logged in as root or *ANY*
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:26:45PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> Well, when the OP writes "sane" he does not mean sane the program, but
> rather that he wants reasonable or rational file permissions (see
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sane#Adjective ).
I think, unfortunately, he actua
On Seg, 21 Nov 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
The most frustrating thing about this whole thread, which I had been saving
because I have a SANE problem (more later), and SANE problems are often to do
with permissions, is that it has nothing *whatsoever* to do with SANE. :-(
It is about file permissions
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:51:58PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives
> When I plug one into my Debian machine I want totally unfettered
> read/write access.
> [when logged in as root or *ANY* user ID]
You can't.
You have to be root to mount one of t
On Sunday 20 November 2016 20:54:17 Brian wrote:
[snip whole thread which doesn't match subject line]
The most frustrating thing about this whole thread, which I had been saving
because I have a SANE problem (more later), and SANE problems are often to do
with permissions, is that it has nothing
On Sun 20 Nov 2016 at 14:25:16 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 12:51 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_
> >*ONE* purpose.
> >It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
> >There is NO [nor will there ever be] a network con
On 11/19/2016 12:51 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_
*ONE* purpose.
It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
There is NO [nor will there ever be] a network connection between
them.
When I plug one into my Debian machine I want tota
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Joe a écrit :
> Conceptually so, but some means of mounting USB sticks do not involve
> the user explicitly issuing a mount command.
Yet, eventually it involves mount and options. The OP's task now is to
find out what system is used to automagically mount USB stick
On Sun 20 Nov 2016 at 19:41:59 +, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 19:45:27 +0100
> Nicolas George wrote:
>
> > Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Joe a écrit :
> > > Tomas' answer contains *a* solution, for a specific device.
> >
> > Tomas' answer points to the umask mount option. Since a
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 19:45:27 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Joe a écrit :
> > Tomas' answer contains *a* solution, for a specific device.
>
> Tomas' answer points to the umask mount option. Since all current
> reasonable methods for accessing an USB stick in FA
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Joe a écrit :
> Tomas' answer contains *a* solution, for a specific device.
Tomas' answer points to the umask mount option. Since all current
reasonable methods for accessing an USB stick in FAT end up using the
mount system call, it is THE solution.
Regards,
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:19:49PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2016-11-20 at 11:46, Joe wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:14:47 +0100 wrote:
>
> >> Sorry I can't offer more details: I'm not "in" the intricacies of
> >> desktop environments. Fo
On Sun 20 Nov 2016 at 13:58:04 +, Joe wrote:
> I'm running sid with systemd, with absolutely nothing in /etc/fstab
> which refers to USB sticks, but nonetheless any USB stick inserted is
> recognised and automounted under /media/joe (maybe immediately and maybe
> on access, I'm not sure, but i
On Sun 20 Nov 2016 at 07:40:17 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/20/2016 7:29 AM, Brian wrote:
> >
> >Doesn't pmount fit the bill if all you want is to read/write?
>
> No.
>
> Maybe the problem is D.E. specific? I'm using MATE and thus Caja as
> file-manager.
TBH, the problem as such isn't c
On 2016-11-20 at 11:46, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:14:47 +0100 wrote:
>> Sorry I can't offer more details: I'm not "in" the intricacies of
>> desktop environments. For me, they are too intricate and finicky,
>> therefore I prefer to run without.
>>
>> I mount my media explicitly.
>
>
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:14:47 +0100
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> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 01:58:04PM +, Joe wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:33:51 +0100
> > Nicolas George wrote:
> >
> > > Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> > > >
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:10:09 -0600
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Do you have a file named "pmount.allow"?
> Web searches turn up references to it, but haven't found any
> details on syntax and/or examples.
>
>
>
I don't have pmount installed. I tried it years ago, when I was having
usbmount troub
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:15:40AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok, I tried it on Jessie, and it works essentially the same way, with a few
> slight differences:
>
>* when the USB stick shows up in dolphin, it does not show the mount
> poi
Ok, I tried it on Jessie, and it works essentially the same way, with a few
slight differences:
* when the USB stick shows up in dolphin, it does not show the mount point,
instead it says something like "Removable 8MiB device"
* if I then go to a CLI and look under media, I find the devic
On Sun 20 Nov 2016 at 08:10:09 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/20/2016 7:58 AM, Joe wrote:
> >
> >This all Just Works, and I have no idea what configuration it depends
> >on. "I didn't build this," sid basically builds and rebuilds itself, so
> >I tend to keep my fingers out of the works. I d
I'll answer with something a little bit like Joe's answer. On my daily
working machine, which uses Wheezy, I use Dophin as a file manager.
After I plug in a USB stick, after a few seconds (maybe up to 20??), a new
entry appears on the left hand list of partitions in Dolphin. If I click on
tha
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 06:08:51AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 2:33 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[mount options, fstab]
> Those don't address my problem definition.
> Having a USB flash drive with a fat16/fat32 file system in hand, on
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 01:58:04PM +, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:33:51 +0100
> Nicolas George wrote:
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> > Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> > > Not as I read them.
> >
> > Then you did not read correctly.
>
On 11/20/2016 7:58 AM, Joe wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:33:51 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Not as I read them.
Then you did not read correctly.
They give methods of handling an explicitly specified device.
Tomas' answer contains
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:33:51 +0100
Nicolas George wrote:
> Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> > Not as I read them.
>
> Then you did not read correctly.
>
> > They give methods of handling an explicitly specified device.
>
> Tomas' answer contains the solution to y
On 11/20/2016 7:29 AM, Brian wrote:
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 19:51:06 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 11/19/2016 5:07 PM, Brian wrote:
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 12:51:58 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
purpose.
It is to transfer data
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 19:51:06 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 5:07 PM, Brian wrote:
> >On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 12:51:58 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
> >>purpose.
> >>It is to transfer data to/from a Windows ma
On 11/20/2016 6:33 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Not as I read them.
Then you did not read correctly.
https://manned.org/fstab.5 states
"
The first field (fs_spec).
This field describes the block special device or remote
filesyst
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> Not as I read them.
Then you did not read correctly.
> They give methods of handling an explicitly specified device.
Tomas' answer contains the solution to your problem: the umask mount
option. This it, no more no less.
To know how to
On 11/20/2016 6:11 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Those don't address my problem definition.
Yes, they do. Tomas' answer was exactly the correct one to your problem.
Not as I read them.
They give methods of handling an explicitly specifie
Le decadi 30 brumaire, an CCXXV, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> Those don't address my problem definition.
Yes, they do. Tomas' answer was exactly the correct one to your problem.
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On 11/19/2016 2:33 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:51:58PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
purpose.
It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
There is N
On 11/19/2016 5:07 PM, Brian wrote:
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 12:51:58 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
purpose.
It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
There is NO [nor will there ever be] a network connection between them.
On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 12:51:58 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
> purpose.
> It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
> There is NO [nor will there ever be] a network connection between them.
No connection to the internet
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On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:51:58PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I use fat16 and fat32 formatted USB flash drives for _EXACTLY_ *ONE*
> purpose.
> It is to transfer data to/from a Windows machine.
> There is NO [nor will there ever be] a network conne
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