Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-27 Thread KangWoo Lee
I live in South Korea. Most of the government systems in Korea operate in a closed environment and are not connected to the internet. This is because they are vulnerable to security. Anyway, I decided to use the update dvd image. Alternatively, it would be good to create the image directly using

Heinlein and requirements (was Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?)

2023-12-26 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-12-26 at 17:33, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 04:49:13PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: >> -- >> Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and >> ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can >> be killed but can't be

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 04:49:13PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2023 09:34:00 am Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Living offline is not really feasible anymore - there are too many security > > updates needed. > (snip) > > Linux distributions do update and you should

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:49:13 -0500 "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: > I must be missing something here. If one is running a system that's > NOT net-connected, why is security so important an issue? Physical access, especially a multi-user system. Think a college science lab. -- Does anybody

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 26 December 2023 09:34:00 am Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Living offline is not really feasible anymore - there are too many security > updates needed. (snip) > Linux distributions do update and you should ideally be running the latest > most up to date security patches. I must be

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/12/2023 13:05, 이 강우 wrote: how to clone apt repository to newest only? If you are asking about partial mirror then some of the following links might be useful: - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup#Debian_Repository_Mirroring_Tools - https://www.debian.org/mirror

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
t; [Copied to the poster because they may not be subscribed] > > > > > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > > > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most > > recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync &

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Hans
c 25, 2023 at 12:21:29PM +, �� wrote: > > [Copied to the poster because they may not be subscribed] > > > > > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > > > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most > > > > recent

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:19:26PM +0900, 이강우(KangWoo Lee) wrote: > For example, I want to install the most recent packages when installing an > OS in a specific closed network environment. > > Of course, I could use a recently created DVD iso file, but I would need to > have an internet

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-26 Thread KangWoo Lee
ey may not be subscribed] > > > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most > recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync > --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be a

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
As Andrew did, I also CC'd.. :) On 12/25/23, 이 강우 wrote: > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" > option, b

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:21:29PM +, �� wrote: [Copied to the poster because they may not be subscribed] > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if

how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-25 Thread 이 강우
how to clone apt repository to newest only? Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. What can I do?

Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 06:05:46AM +, �� wrote: > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" > option, b

how to clone apt repository to newest only?

2023-12-19 Thread 이 강우
how to clone apt repository to newest only? Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. What can I do?

Re: was nvramtool removed from the package repository?

2023-12-16 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/16/23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvramtool=names=all=all > Last appearance is Debian Buster (oldoldstable, LTS). > But there's a package with a like-named binary, which might be > what you are looking for: >

Re: was nvramtool removed from the package repository?

2023-12-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 02:04:26PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > $ sudo apt-get update > Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > Reading package lists... Done > $ > > $ sudo apt-get install nvramtool > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Reading

Re: was nvramtool removed from the package repository?

2023-12-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 02:04:26PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > E: Unable to locate package nvramtool Note to future readers: the actual question was contained in the Subject: header rather than the body. The original Subject: header said, "was nvramtool removed from the package re

was nvramtool removed from the package repository?

2023-12-16 Thread Albretch Mueller
$ sudo apt-get update Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease Reading package lists... Done $ $ sudo apt-get install nvramtool Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package nvramtool $ uname -a Linux

Re: Help to find the Debians repository

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 08.11.2023 um 18:34:12 Uhr schrieb ARY SAYD SAULT: > I am reaching out to you because the team and I need to analyze the > evolution of Debian software over the years and correlate it with > Lehman's laws. The tracker gives you version information: https://tracker.debian.org/ On the archive

Re: Help to find the Debians repository

2023-11-08 Thread David Christensen
and correlate it with Lehman's laws. Obviously, for this type of work, we would not need to analyze all the software since its release, just the most recent versions. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me and my colleagues to find a repository where we could do this kind of analysis

Re: Help to find the Debians repository

2023-11-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 06:34:12PM -0300, ARY SAYD SAULT wrote: > software over the years and correlate it with Lehman's laws. Obviously, for > this type of work, we would not need to analyze all the software since its > release, just the most recent versions.

Help to find the Debians repository

2023-11-08 Thread ARY SAYD SAULT
. Obviously, for this type of work, we would not need to analyze all the software since its release, just the most recent versions. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me and my colleagues to find a repository where we could do this kind of analysis. If you need any additional information from

Re: Debian 11.7 download - official repository

2023-06-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 08:14:52PM +, Edwar Saliba Junior wrote: > Hello! > I'm looking for Debian version 11.7 on the official website, but I didn't > find any link to download this one. > Could you tell me the correct URL to download please? > You could try:

Re: Debian 11.7 download - official repository

2023-06-28 Thread riveravaldez
On 6/28/23, Edwar Saliba Junior wrote: > Hello! > I'm looking for Debian version 11.7 on the official website, but I didn't > find any link to download this one. > Could you tell me the correct URL to download please? Hi!, I hope this two, in order, could be what you're looking for: Installing

Debian 11.7 download - official repository

2023-06-28 Thread Edwar Saliba Junior
Hello! I'm looking for Debian version 11.7 on the official website, but I didn't find any link to download this one. Could you tell me the correct URL to download please? In advance, thank you very much! Edwar Saliba Júnior

FTP Repository all man pages?

2023-04-20 Thread jeremy ardley
Is there any FTP repository that holds all the current Jessie man page files in one location? I have tried various scripts and wget to extract man pages from https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/ but my scripting ability lacks somewhat. Jeremy

Re: what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:03:51 -0800 "Rick Thomas" wrote: Hello Rick, >So what do I need to add to my sources.list file to get them back now? There was an announcement a few days ago, saying what to do. Typically, I cannot find it ATM. However, you simply need to add; non-free-firmware To

Re: what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread David
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Rick Thomas wrote: > I've got a couple of Debian systems that (for various reasons) are running > "testing" or "sid". > I recently did > apt update && apt upgrade && aptitude search '~o' > on these machines and found that a number of firmware packages

what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread Rick Thomas
I've got a couple of Debian systems that (for various reasons) are running "testing" or "sid". I recently did apt update && apt upgrade && aptitude search '~o' on these machines and found that a number of firmware packages are considered "obsolete", presumably because they are no

Re: NO_PUBKEY A8580BDC82D3DC6C, brave-browser repository not signed, ...

2022-12-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
e-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable > InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the > public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A8580BDC82D3DC6C > E: The repository 'https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com > stable InRelease' is not signed. > N: Updating f

NO_PUBKEY A8580BDC82D3DC6C, brave-browser repository not signed, ...

2022-12-26 Thread Albretch Mueller
eading package lists... Done W: GPG error: https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A8580BDC82D3DC6C E: The repository 'https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelea

Problem installing gr-gsm from debian repository

2022-10-28 Thread RootSquid01
Using Debian Testing Kernel: 6.0.0-2-amd64 Setting up xtrx-dkms (0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3) ... Removing old xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 DKMS files... Deleting module xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 completely from the DKMS tree. Loading new xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 DKMS

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 08:21:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > In some sense, if you're using synaptic and a desktop environment you've > already lost a minimal install. A very good point, BTW. My daily driver has no synaptic, for example, and yet it is a far cry from a minimal

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-16 at 16:21, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 08:50:22AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> A goal of the Debian installer is to create a system that can be >> used by *ALL* people to use for *ANY* possible purpose. > > The goal of the installer - debian-installer -

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
that unsatisfactorily perform needed functions. > > > [I have to install additional packages.] As above: what do you have to install to make your system suitable for you - tell us. > > > > > > I plan to get around these problems by creating a local repository and

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread David Wright
yours… > > [problems with Debian installer] > > > I plan to get around these problems by creating a local repository and > > several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to > > create and/or modify both. > > This seems like a classic X/Y problem

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Brian
ecify. > I plan to get around these problems by creating a local repository and > several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to > create and/or modify both. In the light of the above, your plan is flawed. > I did not find authoritative descriptions

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Richard Owlett
needed functions. [I have to install additional packages.] I plan to get around these problems by creating a local repository and several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to create and/or modify both. I did not find authoritative descriptions of the structure of either

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Andy Smith
problems by creating a local repository and > several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to > create and/or modify both. This seems like a classic X/Y problem, but at least you did state your issues rather than just asking how to make an apt repository and metapackages

Re: What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
ons. > [I have to install additional packages.] > > I plan to get around these problems by creating a local repository and > several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to > create and/or modify both. > > I did not find authoritative des

What is a repository? What is a metapackage?

2022-04-16 Thread Richard Owlett
repository and several very custom metapackages. My internet search turned up tools to create and/or modify both. I did not find authoritative descriptions of the structure of either repositories or metapackages. Where do I find such? TIA

Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Keith Christian
One could run 'tcpdump' or a while loop logging the output of 'netstat -an' to a file for the duration of the interaction with the Debian servers, then, examine the file afterward.

Documentation reference: [WAS Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????]

2021-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:28:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks? > > > W

Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-12-26 at 09:28, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks? >>> Where/how is this docume

Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/26/2021 08:22 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks? Where/how is this documented? Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list . If they all try

Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 08:15:54AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks? > Where/how is this documented? > > Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list . > If they all try to install packages a

Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????

2021-12-26 Thread Richard Owlett
How does Debian repository distribute load during peaks? Where/how is this documented? Consider the case when many users may specify the same URL in sources.list . If they all try to install packages at the same time there could be problems. How does a particular user know which physical

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Evelyn, On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 06:00:08PM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security > bullseye/updates Release' does not have a Release file. A few people have by now pointed out the specific cause of your problem, but the root

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Michael Grant
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main contrib > non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main > contrib non-free I think you are missing bullseye-security. I have this: deb http://mirrors.linode.com/debian-security/

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
ity.debian.org. > > I'm not familiar with the use of this 'debian-security' affix on the > repository URL, but for comparison, my own sources.list now has: > > deb http://security.debian.org/ testing-security main contrib non-free Someone helpfully posted that in this list, not long a

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
3 http://mirror.init7.net/debian bullseye InRelease > Hit:4 http://mirror.init7.net/debian bullseye-updates InRelease > Reading package lists... Done > E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security > bullseye/updates Release' does not have a Release file. > N: U

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
ity.debian.org. > > I'm not familiar with the use of this 'debian-security' affix on the > repository URL, but for comparison, my own sources.list now has: > > deb http://security.debian.org/ testing-security main contrib non-free > > and I'm not getting this 404 anymore

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread The Wanderer
32 80] > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main contrib > non-free This 'suite/updates' syntax is apparently no longer correct for security.debian.org. I'm not familiar with the use of this 'debian-security' affix on the repository URL, but for comparison, my own so

what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
/debian bullseye-updates InRelease Reading package lists... Done E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Albretch Mueller
tainer? I am currently testing their sources directly from the github repository and I will be working intensively with c-icap and related matters (developing interfaces around it), so I may as well become its debian maintainer. lbrtchx

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 05:34:02AM -0400, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 5/18/21, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bitz-server > > On 5/18/21, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: > > Hello Albretch, > > bitz-server has 4 RC-Bugs[1], which could not be fixed by me. > > No fixes came

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 05:34:02AM -0400, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 5/18/21, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: > > Hello Albretch, > > bitz-server has 4 RC-Bugs[1], which could not be fixed by me. > > No fixes came from the upstream either. > > Therefore the package had to be removed from testing and

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 5/18/21, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bitz-server On 5/18/21, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: > Hello Albretch, > bitz-server has 4 RC-Bugs[1], which could not be fixed by me. > No fixes came from the upstream either. > Therefore the package had to be removed from testing

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Uditha Atukorala
Unsure whether the below message was intended for bitz-server or another project. For bitz-server, the source repo can be found at https://github.com/uditha-atukorala/bitz-server . Happy to assist in any way I can. u. > On 18 May 2021, at

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-18 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
(RFC 3507) implementation in C++ > >  package is gone: This package is not in any development repository. > This probably means that the package has been removed (or has been > renamed). Thus the information here is of little interest ... the > package is going to disappear unle

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 mai 21, 23:30:33, Albretch Mueller wrote: > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bitz-server > > bitz-server: ICAP server (RFC 3507) implementation in C++ > > package is gone: This package is not in any development repository. > This probably means that the packag

Re: bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-17 Thread Albretch Mueller
... and my main interest would be then connecting it to java using the JNI in order to do the deep content inspection and dynamic customization from events happening in java programs. If I were to collaborate with the maintainers of this package, which "prior art": blogs, books, ... would you

bitz-server: package is not in any development repository ...

2021-05-17 Thread Albretch Mueller
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bitz-server bitz-server: ICAP server (RFC 3507) implementation in C++ package is gone: This package is not in any development repository. This probably means that the package has been removed (or has been renamed). Thus the information here is of little interest

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Apr 2021 at 11:26:51 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, April 02, 2021 01:11:01 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > Thank you, Dr./Mr. Kramer, for taking time to post your kind inputs. > > To me, the best possible option would be an organisationally hosted > > wiki site with strict

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-03 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:26:51 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [...] > Message-id: <[] 202104031126.51275.rhkra...@gmail.com> > In-reply-to: <[] > CAEG4cZUx8-gHimrykbsc88o4FhePNGhLk2v8QLdButiV=hc...@mail.gmail.com> > References: > > > <[]

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-03 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/3/21 8:26 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 02, 2021 01:11:01 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: Thank you, Dr./Mr. Kramer, for taking time to post your kind inputs. To me, the best possible option would be an organisationally hosted wiki site with strict posting guidelines, and pages

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, April 02, 2021 01:11:01 AM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > Thank you, Dr./Mr. Kramer, for taking time to post your kind inputs. > To me, the best possible option would be an organisationally hosted > wiki site with strict posting guidelines, and pages as described. Just a followup: I wasn't

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-01 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:38:07 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [...] > Message-id: <[] 202104010938.07787.rhkra...@gmail.com> > In-reply-to: > > References: > > > [...] >* There are wikis available that you could start making pages for --

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-04-01 Thread rhkramer
Intentionally to posting, as it is a general comment to the entire thread, not anything specific in this email (I think). My comments: * Some interesting ideas -- when are you going to implement them? Or are you trying to get others to implement them? It would be useful / helpful if you

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-03-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > > The best possible method of learning appears to be minimal > explanation, but exhaustive implementation of code lines in a > console/terminal. While you may think that this is the best way for you to learn about command lines, most people don't do well this way.

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-03-31 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:15:13 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [...] > Message-id: <[] 258050bc-618b-e8ae-6a93-fc4483c42...@darac.org.uk> > In-reply-to: <[] > CAEG4cZVHeUrD5Ke1iMd_MLSXuw6j8+k+AhEteKfYoQPO2v=m...@mail.gmail.com> > References: > > >

Re: Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-03-31 Thread Darac Marjal
On 31/03/2021 10:46, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > Follow Up from https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01459.html, > > Motivation: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01358.html > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01362.html >

Request: A Debian public Wiki repository/bank for complex code lines with examples, scripts, self-explanatory with terminal, otherwise Minimal explanatory texts

2021-03-31 Thread Susmita/Rajib
Follow Up from https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01459.html, Motivation: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01358.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01362.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/03/msg01365.html

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:20:11 +0300 George Shuklin wrote: > My point was that 'sh' approach (including > bash and dash) is really, really bad. Bash as a programming language > is super tricky, with lots of landmines and almost no validation > whatsoever for errors (there is a bit, but way less

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-30 Thread George Shuklin
On 26/03/2021 16:59, Dan Ritter wrote: George Shuklin wrote: But it's all software. Debian can't change sh to be 'not sh'. And any changes in a build stack are touching vast amount of software with extremely complex use-cases, so it's almost impossible to 'replace'. You can 'add' a new one, but

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lineswith examples and scripts?

2021-03-28 Thread Susmita/Rajib
I continue to feel sorry for Dr. Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z and Dr. Andrew M.A. Cater and their so much efforts. I would take full responsibility for not being able to explain myself better, despite having the seed within me for so many years. May be, in distant future, this impediment will be gotten

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-28 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El dom, 28 mar 2021 a las 9:48, Andrew M.A. Cater () escribió: > Have a look at the FAQ posted to this list once a month > for some ideas on how this list works. If something solves the problem / you > find a good answer that might help someone else, adding something like > subject line - [SOLVED]

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-28 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
Hi. El sáb, 27 mar 2021 a las 23:18, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z () escribió: > [many things] Sorry, I forgot to finish writing my titles on my past post, so if you need them, here are the lines where a different section begin: Line 344: 2.5. To Mr. Greg Wooledge. Line 367: 2.6. To someone anonymous,

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
on patterns in utilities: what works for one, works for another. There are detailed books for a couple of these: patterns that work in awk and grep will often work in shell script regular expressions as well. > So is it then not necessary to have a repository of codes, with all > permutations &am

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-28 Thread Christian Nzhie
pages. > > Well, this is not completely true. Please look here > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/bash/bash.1.en.html at > section DEFINITIONS and section EXPANSION subsection > Pathname Expansion. > > These manual pages work with a little hierarchy, as I see, > so if yo

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-27 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
. These manual pages work with a little hierarchy, as I see, so if you know how to use bash there is no need to specify how to use ls with bash. [I didn't know that pathname expansion is performed by bash]. 1.3. A very big documentation. > So is it then not necessary to have a repository o

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lineswith examples and scripts?

2021-03-27 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 16:47:27 +0200, George Shuklin wrote: ... ... [snipped] ... ... [snipped] ... ... > Message-id: <[] e7278f2e-45d8-4d4c-130d-6928fb435...@gmail.com> > In-reply-to: <[] >

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lineswith examples and scripts?

2021-03-27 Thread Susmita/Rajib
_ Submission from a Gifted Individual _ (intentionally via private email) On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 07:11:24PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > So is it then not necessary to have a repository of codes, with all > permut

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > To be completely clear, Debian did change sh from Bourne-ish sh > > to dash in Squeeze -- 2006 or so. > > Squeeze was released in 2011. ... > The change from bash to dash as the default /bin/sh happened in

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:46:23AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 26 Mar 2021 at 19:11:24 (+0530), Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > It is clearly noticed that wide applications of tricks with wildcards, > > regex and redirections aren't simply available in the man pages. Nor should they be. The man

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > To be completely clear, Debian did change sh from Bourne-ish sh > to dash in Squeeze -- 2006 or so. Squeeze was released in 2011. Debian originally used bash as /bin/sh (as most Linux distributions did, back in those days). At some

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread David Wright
document fact that are specific to particular commands. Wildcards, regex and redirections are features of the shell that invokes them, and so are documented there. > So is it then not necessary to have a repository of codes, with all > permutations & combinations of possibilities with wild

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Michael Grant
things by making man pages AND writing documentation in some global documentation repository. It is unfortunate that today, sometimes the best documentation is by doing a web search and reading though things on sites like stackexchange or perople's personal blogs. I say unfortunate but it works

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Dan Ritter
George Shuklin wrote: > But it's all software. Debian can't change sh to be 'not sh'. And any > changes in a build stack are touching vast amount of software with extremely > complex use-cases, so it's almost impossible to 'replace'. You can 'add' a > new one, but it just make xkcd #927. To be

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Susmita/Rajib
On 26/03/2021, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: ... ... [snipped] ... ... >> Shouldn't all codes and tricks involving them be available for >> everyone to use, but still have the system so robust that it can't be >> hacked? > > I think "all" is a very tall order: the

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread George Shuklin
On 26/03/2021 15:41, Susmita/Rajib wrote: Even the book that I have procured — The Linux Command Line, A Complete Introduction, by William Shotts — has all codes spread (or sprewn) across many pages and has to be brought together by exhaustive note taking. It is clearly noticed that wide

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Dan Ritter
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > It is clearly noticed that wide applications of tricks with wildcards, > regex and redirections aren't simply available in the man pages. > > So is it then not necessary to have a repository of codes, with all > permutations & combinations of possibili

Re: Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 07:11:24PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My illustrious Team Leaders and Movers of the Debian List, [...] > Shouldn't all codes and tricks involving them be available for > everyone to use, but still have the system so robust that it can't be > hacked? I think "all" is a

Possible?! A Debian public repository for all complex code lines with examples and scripts?

2021-03-26 Thread Susmita/Rajib
to be brought together by exhaustive note taking. It is clearly noticed that wide applications of tricks with wildcards, regex and redirections aren't simply available in the man pages. So is it then not necessary to have a repository of codes, with all permutations & combinations of possibili

Re: An apt repository has changed its key

2020-11-25 Thread songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote: ... it looks like you are mixing Ubuntu and Debian? songbird

Re: An apt repository has changed its key

2020-11-24 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
ng the way into that rabbit-hole. Do you think it is permitted for a debian install to point its apt-get at a Ubuntu repository? There is no need for that rather dangerous action, because "wireguard" is available at least in Debian "buster-backports" repository. [1] [1] https://packag

Re: An apt repository has changed its key

2020-11-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:11:05 -0500 (EST) Bob Bernstein wrote: > > It is permitted! You get to keep any broken bits, of course! > > Hrrmm...I read your observation as a cautionary tale. And rightly so. Fortunately, there may be a better solution. Wireguard is available in buster backports,

Re: An apt repository has changed its key

2020-11-24 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Bob, quite a few times Ive installed Debian on Ubuntu ☺ Keep an eye on gcc and the versions of its libraries. Especially when building from source. Ubuntu is usually in advance of Debian in that respect. Bob are you the same BB I knew at UIC? I live down the road these days. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020,

Re: An apt repository has changed its key

2020-11-24 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, Brian wrote: It is permitted! You get to keep any broken bits, of course! Hrrmm...I read your observation as a cautionary tale. Perhaps I need to investigate this a bit further, with, for example, the vendor of the application that requires that "Wireguard" stuff.

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