Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:31:39AM +, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt was heard to say: I think most people top post in corporate enviroments 'cos they just click and type and don't really care about proper use of email or computers in general. It's just the thing to send messages

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Jens Van Broeckhoven
Sander Marechal wrote: Nuno Magalhães wrote: I think most people top post in corporate enviroments 'cos they just click and type and don't really care about proper use of email or computers in general. It's just the thing to send messages. Actually, top posting makes some sense

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Jens Van Broeckhoven
Jens Van Broeckhoven wrote: Sander Marechal wrote: Nuno Magalhães wrote: I think most people top post in corporate enviroments 'cos they just click and type and don't really care about proper use of email or computers in general. It's just the thing to send messages. Actually, top

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Steven Demetrius wrote: For all you posters discussing Top posting vs Bottom posting and taking other threads off topic here is a thread for you. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Stephen D. Barnes wrote: Alan B. Pearce wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:56 AM

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:18:52PM +0100, Sander Marechal wrote: Nuno Magalhães wrote: [snip] For a real mailinglist (such as this) there is no such benefit when top posting. Everyone already has all the previous messages because they are subscribed here, and in the rare case you want

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Nuno Magalhães
isn't that a reason for top posting, if you have already read the previous emails, don't you want to just get to the new information with out having to read the stuff you just read in the previous email ? Well if the bottom-poster just leaves the cited text without any sort of cleaning, i.e

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Ken Teague
Sander Marechal wrote: Actually, top posting makes some sense in a corporate environment. There is no mailinglist or archive to see the entire discussion there. Suppose you are discussing something with a coworker over e-mail. With top posting every reply carries the entire thread. Want

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-11 Thread Kumar Appaiah
to scroll back down to read it, then scroll up to find the next reply. Weeding through top-posts makes me want to kick someones cat. There's something worse than that: A mixture of top and bottom posts! From the level of quoting at least, one can decipher pure top posted mails (however painful

Re: top-posting

2009-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Dotan Cohen wrote: Why did you think that I killfiled you there? I remember getting in the crossfire between you and someone else a few months ago, but I don't remember there ever being a problem between us. Well, shoot, I know someone did and thought it was you. Was for something rather

Re: top-posting

2009-03-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
Just like I had seen only your post, and not Steve's. Know that that is likely to happen before you decide to be violent or troll. The irony here is that the reason this is so is because Dotan's got me killfilled for my messages over on KU-U, a forum on which I am far, far, more

Re: top-posting

2009-03-08 Thread Alex Samad
postal. I feel powerful. If being the sort of irritating sad little tit you apparently are makes you feel powerful, go for it. As Wendall said Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone but you obviously have nothing else in your life to offer the same sort of high

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:32 AM, karun ka...@mail.karund.de wrote: Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Well, Google with Gmail certainly aren't helping. I also thoroughly loathe answers in the form my

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread CaT
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 08:32:27AM +0100, karun wrote: Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Actually, I'd say it was a side-effect of pine in the unix world and any graphical client everywhere else

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Lamb
karun wrote: Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ Also the base Outlook

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:01:34PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: There is a big world out there beyond the confines of the Debian lists. There is a lot of top posting out there. It must be easy for twits to come to believe that top posting is always, and everywhere, OK. And that people who

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:47AM -0500, Daryl Styrk wrote: I myself don't care for top posting. It just tosses a wrench in a nicely flowing thread. I have started playing around with mutt the last week or so, and I now appreciate how netiquette has come to be. Specifically to mailing

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Top-posting works great in places where you have a common archive and thus don't have to carry the full context in your message. Er, what? Top-posting requires you to carry the *full* context of the entire thread in every message! -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:24:05AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ If I understand this well enough, quotefix won’t work if you are using Word as an editor for mails

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Sjors Gielen
Stephan Seitz schreef: On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:24:05AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ If I understand this well enough, quotefix won’t work if you are using Word

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/3/7 Wendell Cochran atr...@eskimo.com: Date: Fri Mar  6 11:06:29 2009 From: Joe McDonagh To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Joe McDonagh
are for. http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html Top-posting doesn't bother me and I actually find it easier to follow, possibly because I used to work in support. Top-posting to unix geeks is the equivalent of killing a small child's puppy. I never understood the rage that top-posting

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
Top-posting doesn't bother me and I actually find it easier to follow, possibly because I used to work in support. Top-posting to unix geeks is the equivalent of killing a small child's puppy. I never understood the rage that top-posting produces, and seriously, top posters should be shot

Re: top-posting

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Dotan Cohen wrote: Yes, there are those who over react. And no, I didn't killfile you! [ snippage ] Just like I had seen only your post, and not Steve's. Know that that is likely to happen before you decide to be violent or troll. The irony here is that the reason this is so is because

top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Wendell Cochran
Date: Fri Mar  6 11:06:29 2009 From: Joe McDonagh To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone -- not only Steve Lamb. Wendell Cochran

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Terence
powerful, go for it. As Wendall said Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone but you obviously have nothing else in your life to offer the same sort of high. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Paul E Condon
little tit you apparently are makes you feel powerful, go for it. As Wendall said Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone but you obviously have nothing else in your life to offer the same sort of high. There is a big world out there beyond the confines of the Debian lists. There is a lot

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Glenn English
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. If being the sort of irritating sad little tit you apparently are makes you feel powerful, go for it. As Wendall said Top-posting inconveniences

[OT] Re: top-posting and iTouch

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Pobega
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:14:35PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: And it's next to impossible not to with the lame email client on this iTouch... It even top posts your signature? Wow, that's pretty bad. No one's bothered to port any good e-mail clients to the touch yet

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Paul E Condon
Top posting in response to a top post is etiquette. Gloating over the fact that fellow human being is put-off by your behavior is not. Top posting because your email software is incapable of doing otherwise is somewhat like being a child with 'special needs'. The rest of us should be grown up

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Daryl Styrk
I myself don't care for top posting. It just tosses a wrench in a nicely flowing thread. I have started playing around with mutt the last week or so, and I now appreciate how netiquette has come to be. Specifically to mailing lists. Top posting, HTML, 2-3 pages of quoted text to see Thanks

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread ghe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon wrote: Top posting in response to a top post is etiquette. Gloating over the fact that fellow human being is put-off by your behavior is not. Top posting because your email software is incapable of doing otherwise is somewhat like

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: Top posting in response to a top post is etiquette. Gloating over the fact that fellow human being is put-off by your behavior is not. Top posting because your email software is incapable of doing otherwise is somewhat like being a child

Re: top-posting

2009-03-06 Thread karun
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:04:47 -0800, Wendell Cochran atr...@eskimo.com wrote: Date: Fri Mar  6 11:06:29 2009 From: Joe McDonagh To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. Top

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,30.Nov.08, 21:13:40, S.D.Allen wrote: Could you please show your sources.list and the output of=20 Sure. You forgot sources.list apt-cache policy ~# apt-cache policy Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread S.D.Allen
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:35:57 +0200, Andrei Popescu in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Sun,30.Nov.08, 21:13:40, S.D.Allen wrote: Could you please show your sources.list and the output of=3D20 =20 Sure. =20 You forgot sources.list slaps self on head Doh ! deb http://security.debian.org/

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,01.Dec.08, 10:18:24, S.D.Allen wrote: BTW, what arch are you running? ('dpkg --print-architecture') PowerPC Ahh, the missing bit! It seems zgv is not available on PowerPC... Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/28 Jeff Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I understand what you ask correctly, you can apt-get install zgv, It's a cli tool I just learned about, reading the linux cookbook. Any idea what this is all about? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zgv testscreen.png zgv: you must be the owner of the current

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread Jeff Pugh
That got me to. You must be in a login shell. And I think in a virtual terminal eg.. Cntrl+Alt+F1,F2... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-12-01 Thread S.D.Allen
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:36:20 +0200, Andrei Popescu in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon,01.Dec.08, 10:18:24, S.D.Allen wrote: =20 BTW, what arch are

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,29.Nov.08, 11:38:22, S.D.Allen wrote: Interesting; On my Lenny box -- 'aptitude show' says Not a real Package LOL But; aptitude search zgv p xzgv - Picture viewer for X with a thumbnail-based selector Now my question is;

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-30 Thread S.D.Allen
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:19:37 -0600, Jeff Pugh in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Sorry, Debian Etch 4.0 , Here's my sources list. Ah no problem. I needed to add media to my sources list. 8-D Thanks ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-30 Thread S.D.Allen
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:02:28 +0200, Andrei Popescu in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Sat,29.Nov.08, 11:38:22, S.D.Allen wrote: Now my question is; Which Debian distro is it available from ? ,[ apt-cache policy zgv ] | zgv: | Installed: (none) | Candidate: 5.9-2 | Version table:

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,30.Nov.08, 10:35:08, S.D.Allen wrote: Got it. Still doesn't show zgv for me; I tried subsituting my local mirror as well (using last stanza, as I'm on Lenny). Could you please show your sources.list and the output of apt-cache policy apt-cache policy zgv Regards, Andrei P.S. I

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-30 Thread S.D.Allen
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:11:40 +0200, Andrei Popescu in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Sun,30.Nov.08, 10:35:08, S.D.Allen wrote: Got it. Still doesn't show zgv for me; I tried subsituting my local mirror as well (using last stanza, as I'm on Lenny). Could you please show your sources.list

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-29 Thread S.D.Allen
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:43:17 -0600, Jeff Pugh in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:03:39 -0600, Jeff Pugh in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: If I understand what you ask correctly, you can apt-get install zgv, It's a cli tool I just learned about, reading the linux cookbook.

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-29 Thread Jeff Pugh
Sorry, Debian Etch 4.0 , Here's my sources list. # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r3 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20080218-14:15]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r3 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20080218-14:15]/ etch contrib main #etch deb

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-28 Thread Jeff Pugh
If I understand what you ask correctly, you can apt-get install zgv, It's a cli tool I just learned about, reading the linux cookbook. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-28 Thread S.D.Allen
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:03:39 -0600, Jeff Pugh in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: If I understand what you ask correctly, you can apt-get install zgv, It's a cli tool I just learned about, reading the linux cookbook. Doesn't it require X ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-28 Thread Jeff Pugh
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:03:39 -0600, Jeff Pugh in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: If I understand what you ask correctly, you can apt-get install zgv, It's a cli tool I just learned about, reading the linux cookbook. Doesn't it require X ? No, and I was amazed at the picture quality. $

Re: Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-19 Thread André Moura
Use com o sh: sh -c 'top /dev/tty1 ; wait' do jeito que ta fazendo , o top inicia em modo batch... 2008/11/14 Adriano Rafael Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Em Sex, 14/11/2008 15:06, Daniel Vieira Dias escreveu: Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém

Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-14 Thread Daniel Vieira Dias
Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém sabe como fazer a tela ficar estática como um comando top no terminal tty nativo do comando? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-14 Thread Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo
On Friday 14 November 2008 15:06:29 Daniel Vieira Dias wrote: Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém sabe como fazer a tela ficar estática como um comando top no terminal tty nativo do comando? Daniel Oi Daniel! Jä tentaste o htop ? Acho ele

Re: Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-14 Thread Daniel Vieira Dias
Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo escreveu: On Friday 14 November 2008 15:06:29 Daniel Vieira Dias wrote: Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém sabe como fazer a tela ficar estática como um comando top no terminal tty nativo do comando? Daniel Oi

Re: Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-14 Thread Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo
On Friday 14 November 2008 16:59:42 Daniel Vieira Dias wrote: Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo escreveu: On Friday 14 November 2008 15:06:29 Daniel Vieira Dias wrote: Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém sabe como fazer a tela ficar estática como

Re: Rodar um top em outra tty

2008-11-14 Thread Adriano Rafael Gomes
Em Sex, 14/11/2008 15:06, Daniel Vieira Dias escreveu: Estou tentando rodar: # top /dev/tty6 só que a tela rola a cada refresh. Alguém sabe como fazer a tela ficar estática como um comando top no terminal tty nativo do comando? Daniel Daniel, não sei se entendi a dúvida direito, mas

CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
I need to test a new LCD monitor. What program can display a png image with the top left pixel of the image in the top left pixel of the screen, without resizing the image? Thus, if the image is larger than the screen the bottom and right will be cut off. A CLI approach would be best. Thanks

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Castle
2008/11/5 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need to test a new LCD monitor. What program can display a png image with the top left pixel of the image in the top left pixel of the screen, without resizing the image? Thus, if the image is larger than the screen the bottom and right will be cut

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 04:28:30PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I need to test a new LCD monitor. What program can display a png image with the top left pixel of the image in the top left pixel of the screen, without resizing the image? Thus, if the image is larger than the screen the bottom

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/5 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 04:28:30PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I need to test a new LCD monitor. What program can display a png image with the top left pixel of the image in the top left pixel of the screen, without resizing the image? Thus

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/11/5 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 04:28:30PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I need to test a new LCD monitor. What program can display a png image with the top left pixel of the image in the top

Re: CLI Image viewer: top left, no resize.

2008-11-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
for the scrol bars to the right and bottom) Unfortunately, those scrollbars interfere. On etch there is also gqview, which is less heavy than others. Here '1' and 'f' switch to 1:1 and fullscreen, respectively. Use the arrow keys to get the top right corner right. That's it! This does exactly what

Don't forget to top-up your SIM for unlimited texts

2008-11-03 Thread Orange
--- remember to top-up your new Orange SIM card --- Hello, just a quick reminder for you to register and top-up your new SIM card, then you can enjoy: unlimited

Re: top para vários processadores

2008-11-03 Thread Rafael Teixeira Duarte
Pessoal, como adquiri agora um quad core, estou tentando entender como trabalhar com núcleos. Como saber o uso por núcleo? Tem algum top que mostra a atividade por núcleo? Usa o top comum, apertando 1, você vê a atividade por núcleo Por exemplo, como saber se o dvdrip está usandos os quatro

top para vários processadores

2008-11-03 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal, como adquiri agora um quad core, estou tentando entender como trabalhar com núcleos. Como saber o uso por núcleo? Tem algum top que mostra a atividade por núcleo? Por exemplo, como saber se o dvdrip está usandos os quatro núcleos ou um só, se um só, como fazer para ele usar os quatro

Re: top para vários processadores

2008-11-03 Thread Gustavo Soares SLot
Um cara legal é o HTOP, dá uma olhada nele. Rafael Teixeira Duarte escreveu: Pessoal, como adquiri agora um quad core, estou tentando entender como trabalhar com núcleos. Como saber o uso por núcleo? Tem algum top que mostra a atividade por núcleo? Usa o top comum, apertando 1, você

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-10-22 21:32, en0f wrote: Magnus Pedersen wrote: I had the same problems with kde, my strategy was to install the bits I knew I needed. For instance, I needed kdm and kwin so I installed those, realised I needed konqueror as well and installed that and so fort... Probably off-topic

From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp)
... from the top! -- Sincerely... Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) Cyorxamp's Personal Website http://www.cyorxamp.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) escreveu: What is the best way of installing Lenny CD1 (Full Gnome) then getting rid of the bits you don't want ... from the top The best way is not to install the full gnome and then rip what you do not want, but rather to install nothing, except what you actually

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread Magnus Pedersen
of the bits you don't want ... from the top! I had the same problems with kde, my strategy was to install the bits I knew I needed. For instance, I needed kdm and kwin so I installed those, realised I needed konqueror as well and installed that and so fort... Aptitude keeps track of all

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread Ken Teague
) then getting rid of the bits you don't want ... from the top! I'd try this: dpkg --purge gnome That should remove gnome and all of its extra packages. Then it's just a matter of apt-get install the packages you need (e.g. apt-get install epiphany-browser). As you apt-get install packages, you'll

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread John Hasler
Ken writes: I'd try this: dpkg --purge gnome That should remove gnome and all of its extra packages. No. That will just remove the gnome metapackage and all of its configuration files. Since it has none that command will do nothing 'dpkg -r gnome' wouldn't do. -- John Hasler -- To

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread en0f
Magnus Pedersen wrote: I had the same problems with kde, my strategy was to install the bits I knew I needed. For instance, I needed kdm and kwin so I installed those, realised I needed konqueror as well and installed that and so fort... Probably off-topic but nonetheless helpful but KDE on

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread en0f
en0f wrote: Probably off-topic but nonetheless helpful but KDE on Lenny right now is s/KDE/KDE4/g -- en0f -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: From the top... cutting down Gnome

2008-10-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
of installing Lenny CD1 (Full Gnome) then getting rid of the bits you don't want ... from the top! First, read and have available the aptitude manual. Its in html so you should probably have lynx available. If you want to try to rescue your existing system: Now that you know how to use aptitude from

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%wa (top) muito elevado, quem pode ser ?

2008-08-19 Thread hamacker
. O top indica %cpu em zero, mas o %wa que segundo o man é %I/O fica elevado na casa do 90~100%. Eu estou achando que é o disco, mas o diagnostico do fsck reporta que tá tudo OK. A temperatura do disco também está OK. É um disco SATA e não parece ser defeito fisico. Esses problemas passaram

Re: %wa (top) muito elevado, quem pode ser ?

2008-08-19 Thread hamacker
timeout. Experimentei transferir por scp para ver se o problema era o samba, mas ocorreu a mesma coisa. Isto é, o problema não é o samba em sí. O top indica %cpu em zero, mas o %wa que segundo o man é %I/O fica elevado na casa do 90~100%. Eu estou achando que é o disco, mas o diagnostico do

Re: %wa (top) muito elevado, quem pode ser ?

2008-08-19 Thread Luiz Gonzaga da Mata
Hamacker, vamos por partes. Veja o resultado do comando free no meu PC. elisetero:/home/gonzaga# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1946248 985428 960820 0 199564 387312 -/+ buffers/cache: 3985521547696

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Re: How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,02.Aug.08, 12:54:51, Michael Yang wrote: Hi: I'm meeting a problem on xfce4 panel after I did a full package upgrade (no dist-upgrade), debian lenny/sid 2.6.24-1, xfce4.4-2, xfce4-panel 4.4.-2-6. My default top panel with the task list, workspaces was becoming bigger after

Re: How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-03 Thread Michael Yang
default top panel with the task list, workspaces was becoming bigger after the upgrade, and I couldn't get it back to normal by modifying the properties of the panel. So I removed the panel, and tried to add a new panel. But there is no option for the newly added panel to be placed at the top

Re: How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,03.Aug.08, 09:57:24, Michael Yang wrote: Thanks Andrei, but that's what I was saying. The 12 segments square is not available to the newly added panel, but only the the default top and bottom one. It's strange that the options are different to the newly added on from the default one

How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Yang
Hi: I'm meeting a problem on xfce4 panel after I did a full package upgrade (no dist-upgrade), debian lenny/sid 2.6.24-1, xfce4.4-2, xfce4-panel 4.4.-2-6. My default top panel with the task list, workspaces was becoming bigger after the upgrade, and I couldn't get it back to normal by modifying

Re: How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-02 Thread Shachar Or
On Saturday 02 August 2008 19:54, Michael Yang wrote: Hi: I'm meeting a problem on xfce4 panel after I did a full package upgrade (no dist-upgrade), debian lenny/sid 2.6.24-1, xfce4.4-2, xfce4-panel 4.4.-2-6. My default top panel with the task list, workspaces was becoming bigger after

Re: How to restore the default top panel in xfce4

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Yang
: On Saturday 02 August 2008 19:54, Michael Yang wrote: Hi: I'm meeting a problem on xfce4 panel after I did a full package upgrade (no dist-upgrade), debian lenny/sid 2.6.24-1, xfce4.4-2, xfce4-panel 4.4.-2-6. My default top panel with the task list, workspaces was becoming bigger

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora (SOLVED by ensuring PATH set for sudo/root)

2008-07-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
with debootstrap on top of fedora (SOLVED by ensuring PATH set for sudo/root) X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/523336 X-TDMailSerialnumber: 8305938 [-- PGP output follows (current time: Do 03 Jul 2008 02:15:09 CEST) --] gpg: Signature made Di 01 Jul 2008 15:03:58 CEST using

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora

2008-07-01 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I am trying to install Debian Etch on a box that already has Fedora but when using debootstrap I get the message Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc There are more details below but

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora

2008-07-01 Thread michael
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I am trying to install Debian Etch on a box that already has Fedora but when using debootstrap I get the message Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora

2008-07-01 Thread michael
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:17 +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I am trying to install Debian Etch on a box that already has Fedora but when using debootstrap I get the message

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora

2008-07-01 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 10:41 +0100, michael escribió: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:17 +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I am trying to install Debian Etch on a box that already has Fedora

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora

2008-07-01 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 10:41 +0100, michael escribió: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:17 +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I am trying to install Debian Etch on a box that already has Fedora

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora (SOLVED by ensuring PATH set for sudo/root)

2008-07-01 Thread michael
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:50 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 10:41 +0100, michael escribió: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:17 +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 09:46 +0100, michael escribió: I

Re: Install debian Etch with debootstrap on top of fedora (SOLVED by ensuring PATH set for sudo/root)

2008-07-01 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 12:37 +0100, michael escribió: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:50 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 10:41 +0100, michael escribió: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:17 +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:06 -0300, Gabriel Parrondo wrote: [...]

Re: Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-23 18:27:57, schrieb Alain Vaugham: Bonjour la liste, Par habitude j'utilise top pour tuer un processus. Exemple: $ top | grep spamd Dans le cas présent : $ top | grep minicom n'affiche rien car ce ne doit pas être le bon nom. Comment je peux m'en sortir pour tuer Minicom

Re: Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-28 Thread Cédric Lucantis
Le Saturday 28 June 2008 02:02:41 Michelle Konzack, vous avez écrit : Am 2008-06-23 18:27:57, schrieb Alain Vaugham: Bonjour la liste, Par habitude j'utilise top pour tuer un processus. Exemple: $ top | grep spamd Dans le cas présent : $ top | grep minicom n'affiche rien car ce ne

Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-23 Thread Alain Vaugham
Bonjour la liste, Par habitude j'utilise top pour tuer un processus. Exemple: $ top | grep spamd Dans le cas présent : $ top | grep minicom n'affiche rien car ce ne doit pas être le bon nom. Comment je peux m'en sortir pour tuer Minicom quand je ne connais pas le nom du processus? Merci

Re: Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-23 Thread Thibaut LE LEVIER
Bonsoir, personnellement un: $ ps aux | grep minicom me donne la ligne qui m'intéresse Alain Vaugham wrote: Bonjour la liste, Par habitude j'utilise top pour tuer un processus. Exemple: $ top | grep spamd Dans le cas présent : $ top | grep minicom n'affiche rien car ce ne doit pas être le

Minicom : No such process. [était] Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-23 Thread Alain Vaugham
Le lundi 23 juin 2008 18:52, Thibaut LE LEVIER a écrit : | personnellement un: | $ ps aux | grep minicom | me donne la ligne qui m'intéresse | Voici ce qui m'est retourné. Pourtant minicom squatte toujours un terminal : $ ps aux | grep minicom root 29134 0.0 0.2 13464 2888 pts/1S+

Re: Minicom : No such process. [était] Mi nicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-23 Thread rudu
Alain Vaugham wrote: Le lundi 23 juin 2008 18:52, Thibaut LE LEVIER a écrit : | personnellement un: | $ ps aux | grep minicom | me donne la ligne qui m'intéresse | Voici ce qui m'est retourné. Pourtant minicom squatte toujours un terminal : $ ps aux | grep minicom root 29134 0.0 0.2

Re: Minicom : No such process. [était] Minicom : Tuer le processus avec top

2008-06-23 Thread Yannick Palanque
2008-06-23T19:19:53+0200, Alain Vaugham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: $ ps aux | grep minicom root 29134 0.0 0.2 13464 2888 pts/1S+ 17:20 0:00 minicom C'est 29134 le pid de minicom, là. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/DebFrFrenchLists

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