Re: Solved (partially) Re: What happened?

2022-04-22 Thread Dennis Wicks
The Wanderer wrote on 4/21/22 17:14: On 2022-04-21 at 14:37, Dennis Wicks wrote: Dennis Wicks wrote on 4/16/22 18:16: When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I could copy/paste between host and vm and access host

Re: Solved (partially) Re: What happened?

2022-04-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-21 at 14:37, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Dennis Wicks wrote on 4/16/22 18:16: > >> When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a >> virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I >> could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks >> in the vm. And zfs

Solved (partially) Re: What happened?

2022-04-21 Thread Dennis Wicks
Dennis Wicks wrote on 4/16/22 18:16: When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks in the vm. And zfs file systems worked. The main problem was that dpkg would

Re: What happened?

2022-04-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 07:06:44 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Doing this while running is odd. However -- > > > > ZFS is supplied via DKMS, which needs to have the proper version > > of kernel headers installed to build it. There are configuration > > choices which can

Re: What happened?

2022-04-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 07:06:44 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Doing this while running is odd. However -- > > ZFS is supplied via DKMS, which needs to have the proper version > of kernel headers installed to build it. There are configuration > choices which can be made so that: > > - with kernel v1,

Re: What happened?

2022-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-17 at 01:26, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> My guess is that the upgrade in question was carried out while the >> VM was running, and when the upgrade tried to unload one or more >> relevant kernel modules, the kernel refused to let that happen >> because the module was in use. > > Hmm... I

Re: What happened?

2022-04-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > My guess is that the upgrade in question was carried out while the VM > > was running, and when the upgrade tried to unload one or more relevant > > kernel modules, the kernel refused to let that happen because the module > > was in use. > > Hmm... I can't remember ever

Re: What happened?

2022-04-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-16 at 22:32, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022, 6:17 PM Dennis Wicks wrote: > >> When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a >> virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I >> could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks >> in

Re: What happened?

2022-04-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
n Sat, Apr 16, 2022, 6:17 PM Dennis Wicks wrote: > When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a > virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I > could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks > in the vm. And zfs file systems worked. > > The main problem

What happened?

2022-04-16 Thread Dennis Wicks
When I first installed Debian 10, I installed Win 10 in a virtual machine using KVM/QEMU and everything just worked. I could copy/paste between host and vm and access host disks in the vm. And zfs file systems worked. The main problem was that dpkg would kill the system trying to setup

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 07:16:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: That second sentence is incorrect. unicorn:~$ dpkg -s bsdmainutils | grep Depends: Depends: bsdutils (>= 3.0-0), debianutils (>= 1.8), bsdextrautils (>= 2.35.2-7), ncal Sorry, you're right. I eye-balled the control file here [1]

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-27 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/27/21 3:45 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: /usr/bin/cal moved to its own package (ncal) in bsdmainutils upload 12.1.3. This is the version included in current stable and newer; but it's after the version in oldstable (buster). IOW, On buster, if you had installed bsdmainutils, you would get

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 08:45:03AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On upgrade from Buster, bsdmainutils will no longer provide > /usr/bin/cal. There's no dependency in place to automatically pull in > the ncal package, you have to do that yourself. That second sentence is incorrect. unicorn:~$

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
/usr/bin/cal moved to its own package (ncal) in bsdmainutils upload 12.1.3. This is the version included in current stable and newer; but it's after the version in oldstable (buster). IOW, On buster, if you had installed bsdmainutils, you would get /usr/bin/cal. bsdmainutils is Priority:

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 10:32:52PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > On 9/26/21 1:18 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:08:21PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > > I did a fresh install, and apparently "ncal" wasn't installed by default. > > "apt-cache showpkg ncal" tells me

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/26/21 1:18 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:08:21PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: I did a fresh install, and apparently "ncal" wasn't installed by default. "apt-cache showpkg ncal" tells me that only bsdmainutils depends on it. "apt-cache showpkg bsdmainutils" gives me

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:08:21PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > On 9/26/21 8:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:24:59AM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > > I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a > > > command called "cal" which would

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:08:21PM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > I did a fresh install, and apparently "ncal" wasn't installed by default. "apt-cache showpkg ncal" tells me that only bsdmainutils depends on it. "apt-cache showpkg bsdmainutils" gives me a fairly significant list of packages that

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/26/21 2:57 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Jeremy Ardley wrote: As I recall, there used to be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the screen. [...] Now that I've moved to bullseye, I don't see the command nor a package containing it. It is in the

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 9/26/21 8:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:24:59AM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the screen. It would do other calendars,

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, Dedeco Balaco wrote: Em 26/09/2021 09:35, Roger Price escreveu: Perhaps the *cal one gets depends on the desktop. I use Mate Desktop. And i used it with Debian 9 (stretch) before upgrading (sequentially) to 11, a few weeks ago. But Greg Wooledge just, in a message in

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Dedeco Balaco
Em 26/09/2021 09:35, Roger Price escreveu: > On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > >> $  ls -l /usr/bin/cal >> 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 mar 23  2021 /usr/bin/cal -> ncal > Not for all of us. > > rprice@titan ~ inxi -S > System:Host: titan Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Erwan David
Le 26/09/2021 à 14:35, Roger Price a écrit : > On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, Dedeco Balaco wrote: > >> $  ls -l /usr/bin/cal 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 mar 23  2021 >> /usr/bin/cal -> ncal > > Not for all of us. > > rprice@titan ~ inxi -S > System:    Host: titan Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, Dedeco Balaco wrote: $  ls -l /usr/bin/cal 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 mar 23  2021 /usr/bin/cal -> ncal Not for all of us. rprice@titan ~ inxi -S System:Host: titan Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 01:24:59AM -0400, Paul M. Foster wrote: > I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a > command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the > screen. It would do other calendars, depending on command line parameters. >

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
Wasn't that in bsd-utils? If not there, maybe plan9. On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, Charlie wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 01:24:59 -0400 Paul Informed me about What > happened to cal? > > > Folks: > > > > I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall,

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 01:24:59 -0400 Paul Informed me about What happened to cal? > Folks: > > I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to > be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's > calendar to the

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > As I recall, there used to be a > command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the > screen. [...] > Now that I've moved to bullseye, I don't see the command nor > a package containing it. It is in the package ncal which obviously was newly

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-25 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 26/9/21 1:46 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 26/9/21 1:24 pm, Paul M. Foster wrote: Folks: I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the screen. It would do other calendars, depending on

Re: What happened to cal?

2021-09-25 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 26/9/21 1:24 pm, Paul M. Foster wrote: Folks: I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the screen. It would do other calendars, depending on command line parameters. Now that I've

What happened to cal?

2021-09-25 Thread Paul M. Foster
Folks: I'm wondering if I'm mis-remembering here. As I recall, there used to be a command called "cal" which would simply print this month's calendar to the screen. It would do other calendars, depending on command line parameters. Now that I've moved to bullseye, I don't see the command nor

Re: What happened to svn?

2019-05-19 Thread John ff
Arh!  I should have llooked for subversion. Not sure what went wrong but is ok now Sorry ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​ On May 19, 2019, 13:09, at 13:09, John ff wrote: >I tried my usual update from an svn server and it said there was no >such command.  Apt and aptitude say it does not exist.  What

Re: What happened to svn?

2019-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-05-19 13:08 +0100, John ff wrote: > I tried my usual update from an svn server and it said there was no > such command.  Apt and aptitude say it does not exist.  What have I > missed or done wrong? The svn command is shipped in the subversion package; this has been the case "forever" (at

What happened to svn?

2019-05-19 Thread John ff
I tried my usual update from an svn server and it said there was no such command.  Apt and aptitude say it does not exist.  What have I missed or done wrong? ==John ff ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​

Re: What happened to libreoffice-common in archive?

2017-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-10-11 11:33 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> >> Since libreoffice takes 6-18 hours to build on the buildds, this happens >> with every libreoffice upload. :-( >> > > Since I don't understand all the implications

Re: What happened to libreoffice-common in archive?

2017-10-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > > Since libreoffice takes 6-18 hours to build on the buildds, this happens > with every libreoffice upload. :-( > Since I don't understand all the implications of the bug report: Will it be the case that libreoffice (and

Re: What happened to libreoffice-common in archive?

2017-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-10-11 16:11 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > How can the following be possible? > > Note that I have not changed the mirror, and "apt update" does not > give any error. > > cventin:~> apt-show-versions -a libreoffice-common > libreoffice-common:all 1:5.4.2-1 install ok installed >

Re: What happened to libreoffice-common in archive?

2017-10-11 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/11/17, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > How can the following be possible? > > Note that I have not changed the mirror, and "apt update" does not > give any error. > > cventin:~> apt-show-versions -a libreoffice-common > libreoffice-common:all 1:5.4.2-1 install ok installed >

What happened to libreoffice-common in archive?

2017-10-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
How can the following be possible? Note that I have not changed the mirror, and "apt update" does not give any error. cventin:~> apt-show-versions -a libreoffice-common libreoffice-common:all 1:5.4.2-1 install ok installed libreoffice-common:all 1:5.2.7-1 stable ftp.fr.debian.org No

Re: What happened with Samba??

2017-03-24 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
cesfully samba-updates today on our Debian 8 server. > > > After it can't use my backup - Windows 7 built in backup software - > > > because of this error: > > > > > > Error 0x80070032 > > > > > > What happened and why? > >

Re: What happened with Samba??

2017-03-23 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
7 built in backup software - > > because of this error: > > > > Error 0x80070032 > > > > What happened and why? > > > > How could I repair my previous backup-method to continue this as it > > worked great before?? > > > > Thanks for the replies

Re: What happened with Samba??

2017-03-23 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 23/03/2017 à 19:41, Gábor Hársfalvi a écrit : Dear Community! I've installed succesfully samba-updates today on our Debian 8 server. After it can't use my backup - Windows 7 built in backup software - because of this error: Error 0x80070032 What happened and why? How could I repair my

What happened with Samba??

2017-03-23 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Dear Community! I've installed succesfully samba-updates today on our Debian 8 server. After it can't use my backup - Windows 7 built in backup software - because of this error: Error 0x80070032 What happened and why? How could I repair my previous backup-method to continue this as it worked

Re: What happened to the info tutorial?

2016-04-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 17:31, Stephen Powell wrote: > The "info" command in jessie has a tutorial which can be accessed by pressing > the "H" key. Oops!, I meant to say the "h" key, not the "H" key. Otherwise, the question remains as written. -- .''`. Stephen Powell

What happened to the info tutorial?

2016-04-16 Thread Stephen Powell
The "info" command in jessie has a tutorial which can be accessed by pressing the "H" key. You must have the texinfo-doc-nonfree package installed for this to work; but if this package is installed, it works. But under stretch, it does not work, even if the texinfo-doc-nonfree package is

What happened to my mail log?

2015-03-13 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
I have Postfix and Dovecot running on my Debian Jessie/testing system. When I first setup the system a few months ago, I know that Postfix and Dovecot were both logging to /var/log/mail.log through syslog because I was using it to diagnose issues. I can also view entries in the old rotated files

Re: What happened to my mail log?

2015-03-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2015-03-13 21:12 +0100, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: I have Postfix and Dovecot running on my Debian Jessie/testing system. When I first setup the system a few months ago, I know that Postfix and Dovecot were both logging to /var/log/mail.log through syslog because I was using it to diagnose

Re: What happened to my mail log?

2015-03-13 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 21:51:06 +0100 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2015-03-13 21:12 +0100, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: I have Postfix and Dovecot running on my Debian Jessie/testing system. When I first setup the system a few months ago, I know that Postfix and Dovecot were both

Re: What happened to my mail log?

2015-03-13 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.03.2015 um 02:55 schrieb Stephen R Guglielmo: Maybe it would be better if I installed a plain old simple syslog daemon. Is there an alternative one to syslog-ng? If you want a simple, yet powerful solution, you could just use the journal and enable the persistent storage (see

What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Rick Thomas
In Wheezy there is a program called palimpsest that gives a nice wide-ranging overview of all things related to disks: partitions, LVM configuration, MD/raid configs, SMART data for individual drives, and so on. It was part of the package gnome-disk-utility, I think. It seems to have

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: In Wheezy there is a program called palimpsest that gives a nice wide-ranging overview of all things related to disks: partitions, LVM configuration, MD/raid configs, SMART data for individual drives, and so on. It was

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Артур Истомин
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 06:24:06AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: In Wheezy there is a program called palimpsest that gives a nice wide-ranging overview of all things related to disks: partitions, LVM configuration, MD/raid

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 05 May 2014 11:40:06 Артур Истомин wrote: WTF AFAIUI? ) As Far As I Understand It. Lisi

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 5/5/2014 6:40 AM, Артур Истомин wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 06:24:06AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: In Wheezy there is a program called palimpsest that gives a nice wide-ranging overview of all things related to disks:

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Артур Истомин
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 03:37:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 05 May 2014 11:40:06 Артур Истомин wrote: WTF AFAIUI? ) As Far As I Understand It. My mom does not like such things =) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:40:06AM +, Артур Истомин wrote: AFAIUI it's been renamed Disks and the executable is /usr/bin/gnome-disks. WTF AFAIUI? ) WTF WTF? GIYF -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On May 5, 2014, at 3:24 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: In Wheezy there is a program called palimpsest that gives a nice wide-ranging overview of all things related to disks: partitions, LVM configuration, MD/raid

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 14:03:11 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: For what it's worth, if I do dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 I get the question I expect to see, asking what I want the default printer-paper size to be. So

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 10 mar 14, 17:15:50, Darac Marjal wrote: Probably your debconf priority is set too high for the questions to be asked. Try dpkg-reconfigure -plow keyboard-configuration. From dpkg-reconfigure(8):

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 03:27:23AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 10 mar 14, 17:15:50, Darac Marjal wrote: Probably your debconf priority is set too high for the questions to be asked. Try dpkg-reconfigure

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 13:49:34 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: This sent me scurrying to the man pages. I couldn't find any indication of where the already seen flag is kept. Anybody know this? Is there a document I've overlooked?

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 mar 14, 03:27:23, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 10 mar 14, 17:15:50, Darac Marjal wrote: Probably your debconf priority is set too high for the questions to be asked. Try dpkg-reconfigure -plow

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:38:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:08:06AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the option to use control-alt-backspace to terminate the X

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Mar 2014 at 17:59:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Here is what I get: root@dillserver:~# aptitude show keyboard-configuration You have edited the output this command gave. In ganeral this is not wise. root@dillserver:~# dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration update-rc.d:

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 09 Mar 2014 at 17:59:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Here is what I get: root@dillserver:~# aptitude show keyboard-configuration You have edited the output this command gave. In ganeral this is not wise. Nope. I

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:03:54AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 09 Mar 2014 at 17:59:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Here is what I get: root@dillserver:~# aptitude show keyboard-configuration You have edited the

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Doug
On 03/10/2014 07:29 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:38:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: /snip/ Actually, SysRq+K is the Secure Attention Key (SAK). It is the equivalent of Ctrl+Alt+Del in Windows. Basically, the intention is that, if you walk up to a computer you have access

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:03:54AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 09 Mar 2014 at 17:59:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Here is what I get:

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 13:16 -0400, Doug wrote: On 03/10/2014 07:29 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:38:35AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: /snip/ Actually, SysRq+K is the Secure Attention Key (SAK). It is the equivalent of Ctrl+Alt+Del in Windows. Basically, the intention is

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Curt
On 2014-03-10, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Is this short cut for people with an eidetic memory + trained finger dexterity? It's so lousy pianists don't execute it by inadvertence while fiddling a Brahm's intermezzo alphanumerically. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 10:03:54 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 09 Mar 2014 at 17:59:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Here is what I get: root@dillserver:~# aptitude show keyboard-configuration You have edited the

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:08:06AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the option to use control-alt-backspace to terminate the X server. But in Jessie, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 18:20:04 +, Brian wrote: extra information on your setup I'm afraid I'm at a loss for a suggestion or two, apart from observing it may be particular to your architecture. This is by way of being another obervation: dpkg-reconfigure -u keyboard-configuration

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 14:16:59 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:08:06AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: What is the preferred method of configuring the keyboard in Jessie? I think that's the wrong question. You want How can I get the X server to listen to

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! I'll put that in my bag of tricks... On Mar 10, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:08:06AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 13:21:58 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks! I'll put that in my bag of tricks... It will take more than a trick to retrieve the situation you are in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 18:20:04 +, Brian wrote: extra information on your setup I'm afraid I'm at a loss for a suggestion or two, apart from observing it may be particular to your architecture. This is by way of being

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 10, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 13:21:58 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks! I'll put that in my bag of tricks... It will take more than a trick to retrieve the situation you are in. Well... It doesn't do this on Wheezy, so it would

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 mar 14, 14:03:11, Rick Thomas wrote: For what it's worth, if I do dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 I get the question I expect to see, asking what I want the default printer-paper size to be. So dpkg-reconfigure isn't completely broken all by itself. The bug that prevents me from

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 10 mar 14, 17:15:50, Darac Marjal wrote: Probably your debconf priority is set too high for the questions to be asked. Try dpkg-reconfigure -plow keyboard-configuration. From dpkg-reconfigure(8): -pvalue, --priority=value Specify the minimum priority of question that

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 14:03:11 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: For what it's worth, if I do dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 I get the question I expect to see, asking what I want the default printer-paper size to be. So dpkg-reconfigure isn't completely broken all by itself. The bug that prevents me

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Mar 2014 at 13:49:34 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: This sent me scurrying to the man pages. I couldn't find any indication of where the already seen flag is kept. Anybody know this? Is there a document I've overlooked? The 'seen' flag is put in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat after

What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-09 Thread Rick Thomas
In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the option to use control-alt-backspace to terminate the X server. But in Jessie, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration asks no questions and makes no changes. What is the preferred

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 mar 14, 04:08:06, Rick Thomas wrote: In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the option to use control-alt-backspace to terminate the X server. But in Jessie, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration asks no

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-09 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:08:06AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: In Wheezy, I used to be able to use dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration to (among other things) set the option to use control-alt-backspace to terminate the X server. I think you can still terminate the X server with this

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks Andrei! Here is what I get: root@dillserver:~# aptitude show keyboard-configuration Package: keyboard-configuration State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1.102 Priority: optional Section: utils Maintainer: Debian Install System Team

Re: What happened to use control-alt-backspace to terminate X server?

2014-03-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! Once upon a time, I knew that -- and even used it when I couldn't use Ctrl-alt-bksp for some reason. But I'd forgotten. It's good to be reminded. But the original question remains: What happened to dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration in Jessie? I recently posted

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread John W. Foster
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 18:28 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:06:01 -0400 Jeff Shearer j...@shearer-family.org wrote: Hello Jeff, launches fine but not KDE. So far no one has responded to my pleas for help to get KDE up and running. Select it at the login screen.

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 09:12:47 -0500 John W. Foster jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, Well it seems I'm not alone in my dislike of the 'features' installed in this update. Thanks to a couple of you I at least now have an active If you don't want to be surprised by what happens when your

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread To Ro
From my own limited experience with Gnome 3, I don't see what the big fuss is about. I thought it generally operated pretty much like Gnome 2 except it was missing some pieces that will probably show up eventually, as they did when KDE went from 3 to 4. The main thing I believe is that you

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread To Ro
Or, abandon the desktop environment all together, and just go with a window manager, a panel and Debian-menu (I use Openbox and LXPanel). Where is Debian-menu? x@y:~$ apt-cache search debian-menu x@y:~$ apt-cache search debian | grep menu education-menus - Debian Edu menu reorganization menu

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/06/13 01:49 PM, To Ro wrote: From my own limited experience with Gnome 3, I don't see what the big fuss is about. I thought it generally operated pretty much like Gnome 2 except it was missing some pieces that will probably show up eventually, as they did when KDE went

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:26:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: On Friday 28 June 2013 12:08:42 you wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:35:24PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: .snip There's nothing wrong with running an outdated Debian, Until the security patches

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Jeff Bauer
My progression/path: JWM/ROX-filer OpenBox/PYpanel straight up ratpoison. Nowadays I'm a hamstrung cripple if forced to use an OS with a DE/WM that's heavily reliant on the dreaded rodent. One can trick out OpenBox pretty seriously if you want to spend the time with configurations, but

what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread John W. Foster
I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came with this upgrade. Some folks may be ok with all the desktop changes, however I am not.

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Conrad Nelson
Welcome to GNOME 3, the desktop environment that attempts to solve a problem that isn't there and changes things for the sake of changing them. Perhaps you'd like MATE, which is a fork of GNOME 2. On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 09:28 -0500, John W. Foster wrote: I finally got my drop down menus back by

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/06/2013 19:00, Wayne Topa a écrit : On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came with this upgrade. Some folks may be ok

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Jeff Shearer
I am trying to move to the KDE desktop.� Seemed like the install went ok.� KDM launches fine but not KDE.� So far no one has responded to my pleas for help to get KDE up and running. Original Message Subject: Re: what happened

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Jeff Shearer
Yeah, I tired to switch to KDE but as I have said, when I reboot I get KDM but then up comes gnome rather than KDE. Original Message Subject: Re: what happened to the task bar?? From: Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org Date: Fri, June

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