Re: any women here?

2001-05-02 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (18/04/01 11:58), Deirdre Saoirse wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: It could be because a lot of women are brushed off, or feel that they are. I must confess that sometimes it seems like men have invisible rays with which they communicate, because women aren't a part of that

Re: any women here?

2001-04-19 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:05:32PM -0600, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Not that there aren't some men out there with real lives, of course. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install real-life Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree...

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Like most places in GNU/Linux land, and IT in general for that matter, the project (newbiedoc) isn't getting all the help that it needs because: the help of women is lacking. It's sad to see 1/2 the human race is missing, once again. There are

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Erik Steffl
Deirdre Saoirse wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Like most places in GNU/Linux land, and IT in general for that matter, the project (newbiedoc) isn't getting all the help that it needs because: the help of women is lacking. It's sad to see 1/2 the human race is

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread garyjones
Am Wed, 18 April 2001 schrieb Deirdre Saoirse: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Like most places in GNU/Linux land, and IT in general for that matter, the project (newbiedoc) isn't getting all the help that it needs because: the help of women is lacking. It's sad to see 1/2

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Keith G. Murphy
will trillich wrote: Lesson to be learned -- all stereotypes are evil. Is that a stereotype about stereotypes? In which case... Hmmm.

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: It could be because a lot of women are brushed off, or feel that they are. I must confess that sometimes it seems like men have invisible rays with which they communicate, because women aren't a part of that hive mind, not how the hell did you

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread ray p
I would have to say that many of us do the invisiable ray thing but that it is without malice and that we don't know we do it. I know I do and I also know that I feel bad and try to correct it when I do. But many of us are just stupid about such things and geeks tend to be worse about it. So in

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: Like I said, I'm a female engineer. This means I have Awesome Secret Geek Tools at my disposal. Use them wisely. :) even women engineers with 25 years experience. erik (notice no smiley) No smiley here either I think those

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread will trillich
Deirdre Saoirse wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Like most places in GNU/Linux land, and IT in general for that matter, the project (newbiedoc) isn't getting all the help that it needs because: the help of women is lacking. It's sad to see 1/2 the human race is

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Not that there aren't some men out there with real lives, of course. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install real-life Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package real-life Hmmm. Nope didn't work. Maybe if I

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread will trillich
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:13:07AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: will trillich wrote: Lesson to be learned -- all stereotypes are evil. Is that a stereotype about stereotypes? In which case... Hmmm. Not unlike an advertising slogan from the 70's: It's a rule of nature that every

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread melissa ion kibbe
Well, they could start by explaining why so few women are interested in IT, and if they see a way to overcome it. And if there is , and it's within our reach/abilities, well what are we waiting for ? unfortunately, i think it comes back to the way we were raised as kids (in the u.s.

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Dan
can build an engine from scratch as well as computers. Just thought id share that with ya. Dan - Original Message - From: melissa ion kibbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: Re: any women here? Well, they could

Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Lurk lurk ... but I have to toss in this article about the male/female disproportion among the geekly that I stumbled across on slashdot by chance half a year ago. The author has now archived it herself apparently. I think the reflections on socialization and the larval stage of geek

Re: any women here?

2001-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
From: will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert wrote: This from debian-user: http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ pick a topic that bugged you, and expose the basics for tomorrow's newbie. (like me.) we need all the help we can get! Will: Like most places in

Re: any women here?

2001-04-17 Thread romain lerallut
From: melissa ion kibbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is really a shame that more women aren't involved in Debian or technology in general, but thinking that their presence would do something other than get some different intellectual perspectives involved would be flawed.  i am not saying some women

Re: any women here?

2001-04-17 Thread will trillich
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 07:49:49PM -0400, melissa ion kibbe wrote: That's not a bad idea. Women tend to have a more open-ended, inclusive take on things than men do. Ladies, join us at http://newbiedoc.sourceForge.net, and help make Debian a kinder, gentler place gee, do you think

Re: any women here?

2001-04-17 Thread Robert Cymbala
Romain writes: It's hard to solve a problem when you don't see where the problem exactly lies. Exactly! Based upon a real-life experience, a letter that attempts to demonstrate where (I feel) the problem lies: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/careplan.html Men (especially men in Orange County)

Re: any women here?

2001-04-17 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 07:49:49PM -0400, melissa ion kibbe wrote: That's not a bad idea. Women tend to have a more open-ended, inclusive take on things than men do. Ladies, join us at http://newbiedoc.sourceForge.net, and help make Debian a kinder, gentler place gee, do you

any women here?

2001-04-16 Thread will trillich
Robert wrote: This from debian-user: http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ pick a topic that bugged you, and expose the basics for tomorrow's newbie. (like me.) we need all the help we can get! Will: Like most places in GNU/Linux land, and IT in general for that matter,

Re: any women here?

2001-04-16 Thread melissa ion kibbe
That's not a bad idea. Women tend to have a more open-ended, inclusive take on things than men do. Ladies, join us at http://newbiedoc.sourceForge.net, and help make Debian a kinder, gentler place gee, do you think you included every stereotype about women you could have? the only

Re: any women here?

2001-04-16 Thread iehrenwald
have? the only thing missing i guess would be something to the effect of they could bake us cookies at conferences. Well? Can you? 'Cuz I'm hungry and I'm sure everyone else is too. While you're at it, a refresher on the beer would be nice. And could you grab that bag of nachos? The

Re: any women here?

2001-04-16 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 01:12:26PM -0500, will trillich wrote: Robert wrote: This from debian-user: http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ pick a topic that bugged you, and expose the basics for tomorrow's newbie. (like me.) we need all the help we can get! Will:

Re: any women here?

2001-04-16 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Brian Nelson wrote: But... What about all those romance novels out there? I have yet to see one written by a male! Maybe all of us should start contributing to those, to give them that much needed masculine touch. :b I'm already working on a Geeks in Love novel.