On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 16:51:12 -0600, Tom Dial wrote:
>
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> On 6/20/20 13:17, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
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> > On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:37:31, Brian wrote:
> >> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote:
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> I notice that
On 6/20/20 13:17, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:37:31, Brian wrote:
>> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>
>>> On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote:
I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it
appears th
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:37:31, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote:
> > >
> > > I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it
> > > appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote:
> >
> > I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it
> > appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are made (line 24 from
> > the end) is
> >
> > apt-get -
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 09:30:30, David Wright wrote:
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> One other benefit: the knowledge and skills you gain in this process
> will be far more transferable than a deeper understanding of the d-i.
> After all, I haven't gained the impression that you're in technical
> charge of rolling out, say, 5000
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote:
>
> I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it
> appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are made (line 24 from
> the end) is
>
> apt-get -q -y -o APT::Install-Recommends=true -o \
> APT::Get::AutomaticRemove=true
On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 15:12:27 -0600, Tom Dial wrote:
> I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it
> appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are made (line 24 from
> the end) is
>
> apt-get -q -y -o APT::Install-Recommends=true -o \
> APT::Get::AutomaticRemo
On 19.06.20 23:12, Tom Dial wrote:
On 6/19/20 09:28, Brian wrote:
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:15:00 -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 20:48:50 (+0100), Brian wrote:
AFAICT, it appears Recommends are *always* installed using the Installer,
irrespective of preseeding. Not *someti
On 6/19/20 09:28, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:15:00 -0500, David Wright wrote:
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>> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 20:48:50 (+0100), Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> AFAICT, it appears Recommends are *always* installed using the Installer,
>>> irrespective of preseeding. Not *sometimes*.
>>
>> One or tw
On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 06:23:00 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/18/2020 10:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 17 iun 20, 06:51:18, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >
> > > The purpose is to determine if I want to do future installs debootstrap.
> > > I attempted to use debootstrap a few years a
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 09:30:30AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Why not start with a minimal working system, even adding a few
> select tools, and then see what isn't necessary for your own
> minimalist system. Now you can try removing them from a *working*
> system and, should you go too f
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:15:00 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 20:48:50 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> >
> > AFAICT, it appears Recommends are *always* installed using the Installer,
> > irrespective of preseeding. Not *sometimes*.
>
> One or two counterexamples are:
>
> openssh-server
On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 06:15:48 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 17 iun 20, 20:48:50, Brian wrote:
> >
> > debootstrap is only run during the installation of the base system. It
> > installs recommended packages. That is in contradiction to what the
> > Manual says.
>
> For "regular" use deb
On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 06:23:00 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/18/2020 10:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 17 iun 20, 06:51:18, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >
> > > The purpose is to determine if I want to do future installs debootstrap.
> > > I attempted to use debootstrap a few years
On 06/18/2020 10:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 06:51:18, Richard Owlett wrote:
The purpose is to determine if I want to do future installs debootstrap.
I attempted to use debootstrap a few years ago and understand it will take
some time/effort to learn it.
If you are going to
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 06:51:18, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> The purpose is to determine if I want to do future installs debootstrap.
> I attempted to use debootstrap a few years ago and understand it will take
> some time/effort to learn it.
If you are going to start from scratch you should consider mm
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 20:48:50, Brian wrote:
>
> debootstrap is only run during the installation of the base system. It
> installs recommended packages. That is in contradiction to what the
> Manual says.
For "regular" use deboostrap does not install Recommends.
According to the manpage it does have
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 22:31:31 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote:
> On 18/06/2020 21:14, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote:
> >> On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote:
> >>> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Tue, J
On 18/06/2020 21:14, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote:
>> On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright
wrote:
> Where bash-co
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote:
> On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright
> >> wrote:
> >>> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for e
On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright
>> wrote:
>>> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example,
>>> where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arriv
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 06:48:26 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > No you don't. A user preseeds with
> > >
> > >recommends=false
> > >
> > > But you know for a fa
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright wrote:
> > Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example,
> > where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arrives via wget
> > called, say, index_0001.3872359.h
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 20:48:50 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 14:15:05 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 18:15:49 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> > > > > Clarification of my immediate goal:
> > >
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:50:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:41:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
> > > 2. Do I "know" something that is not actually true?
> >
> > That is anyone's guess. I know I
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:41:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > >On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > >[...]
> > >
> > >>No you don't. A user preseeds
Hi,
18 juin 2020 à 09:00 de david...@freevolt.org:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
>
>> 16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org:
>>
>>> I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though,
>>> no. Do not want.
>>>
>> Interesting/intriguing point of view.
>>
> I
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>No you don't. A user preseeds with
> >>
> >> recommends=false
> >>
> >>But you know for a fact that this
On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
No you don't. A user preseeds with
recommends=false
But you know for a fact that this doesn't work. Therefore, an answer to
your enquiry
> Is there a way to totally disable rec
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:25:40AM +, davidson wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
[...]
> >Maybe sometimes completion is not working as it should, nothing is
> >perfect, but globally I think that it saves time more than its
> >wastes.
>
> For those it suits, I am glad the pa
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> No you don't. A user preseeds with
>
> recommends=false
>
> But you know for a fact that this doesn't work. Therefore, an answer to
> your enquiry
>
> > Is there a way to totally disable recommends when installing Debian?
>
>
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
[dd]
16 juin 2020 à 13:23 de wool...@eeg.ccf.org
It's flaky and full of errors. (Many of these errors end up on the
bash mailing lists as bug reports in bash, but nope, they're from
bash-completion.) It bloats bash, using a lot of memory, and taking
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org:
I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though,
no. Do not want.
Interesting/intriguing point of view.
I will remember this polite new way to call somebody a weirdo.
Why would s
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 06:31:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/17/2020 06:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:53:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > A couple of those led me to disabl
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 14:15:05 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 18:15:49 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > > > Clarification of my immediate goal:
> > > >
> > > > Using the ISO of DVD1 I wish to install Debian with
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 18:15:49 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Clarification of my immediate goal:
> > >
> > > Using the ISO of DVD1 I wish to install Debian with "recommends"
> > > disabled during the installation process.
> Sectio
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 14:26:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Clarification of my immediate goal:
> >
> > Using the ISO of DVD1 I wish to install Debian with "recommends"
> > disabled during the installation proce
On 06/17/2020 07:26 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
Clarification of my immediate goal:
Using the ISO of DVD1 I wish to install Debian with "recommends"
disabled during the installation process.
I can't give you an authoritat
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
> Clarification of my immediate goal:
>
> Using the ISO of DVD1 I wish to install Debian with "recommends"
> disabled during the installation process.
I can't give you an authoritative answer for this one, sorry.
> The purpo
On 06/17/2020 06:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:31:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/17/2020 06:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:53:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[snip]
A couple of t
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:31:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/17/2020 06:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:53:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >>>[snip]
> >>>
> >>>A couple of those led me to disable recomme
On 06/17/2020 06:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:53:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[snip]
A couple of those led me to disable recommends completely. It seems
I'm a freak monster or sometning ;-@
Is there a way to t
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:53:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >A couple of those led me to disable recommends completely. It seems
> >I'm a freak monster or sometning ;-@
> >
>
> Is there a way to totally disable recommends when i
On 06/17/2020 03:34 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[snip]
A couple of those led me to disable recommends completely. It seems
I'm a freak monster or sometning ;-@
Is there a way to totally disable recommends when installing Debian?
I wish to set up a machine for experimenting to find out what I
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 02:47:38PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example,
> where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arrives via wget
> called, say, index_0001.3872359.html, for whatever reason.
> So you type xpdf inde [TA
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright wrote:
> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example,
> where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arrives via wget
> called, say, index_0001.3872359.html, for whatever reason.
> So you type xpdf inde [TAB] and bash-com
[much snipping]
On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 09:19:16 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2020-06-16 at 08:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 01:53:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> >> Maybe sometimes completion is not working as it should, nothing is
> >> perfect, but globally I thi
On 2020-06-16 at 08:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 01:53:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Maybe sometimes completion is not working as it should, nothing is
>> perfect, but globally I think that it saves time more than its
>> wastes.
>
> Then just use it a
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 01:53:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
[...]
> Maybe sometimes completion is not working as it should, nothing is perfect,
> but globally I think that it saves time more than its wastes.
Then just use it and be happy. And just accept that some
(me, among others) are hap
Hi Greg,
16 juin 2020 à 13:23 de wool...@eeg.ccf.org
> It's flaky and full of errors. (Many of these errors end up on the
> bash mailing lists as bug reports in bash, but nope, they're from
> bash-completion.) It bloats bash, using a lot of memory, and taking
> extra CPU and wall-clock time (ma
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org:
>
> > I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though,
> > no. Do not want.
> >
> Interesting/intriguing point of view.
> Why would someone not be intereste
Hi,
16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org:
> I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though,
> no. Do not want.
>
Interesting/intriguing point of view.
Why would someone not be interested in autocompletion please?
Best regards,
l0f4r0
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