Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 09:11, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 03:55:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. I am distressed to hear that Lennart Poettering made you install un

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 06:45:02AM -0700, Fred wrote: > On 11/16/22 13:55, gene heskett wrote: > > At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard > > thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. > > You could change over to Devuan which is Debian without systemd. Agree

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 03:55:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard > thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. I am distressed to hear that Lennart Poettering made you install unattended-upgrades and configure it in

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Wed 16 Nov 2022 at 15:55:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 11/16/22 14:17, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > > > > > Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the > > > ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-17 Thread gene heskett
On 11/17/22 08:45, Fred wrote: On 11/16/22 13:55, gene heskett wrote: On 11/16/22 14:17, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500 gene heskett wrote: Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be int

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-17 Thread Fred
On 11/16/22 13:55, gene heskett wrote: On 11/16/22 14:17, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500 gene heskett wrote: Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and exit quietly if it

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > On 11/16/22 14:09, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 01:03:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > I have removed the execute perms from that utility and restarted the > > > > job. > > > > > > Why not simply *remove* the unattended-upg

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread gene heskett
On 11/16/22 14:17, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500 gene heskett wrote: Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and exit quietly if it finds one of the un-interruptables runn

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread gene heskett
On 11/16/22 14:09, Dan Ritter wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 01:03:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: I have removed the execute perms from that utility and restarted the job. Why not simply *remove* the unattended-upgrades package? It sounds like your system is one that sh

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:03:20 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the > ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and > exit quietly if it finds one of the un-interruptables running. Did you have Unattended-Upgrade

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 01:03:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > I have removed the execute perms from that utility and restarted the job. > > Why not simply *remove* the unattended-upgrades package? It sounds like > your system is one that should not be using it. I bet

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 01:03:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the > ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and exit > quietly if it finds one of the un-interruptables running. > Gene

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 01:03:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > I have removed the execute perms from that utility and restarted the job. Why not simply *remove* the unattended-upgrades package? It sounds like your system is one that should not be using it.

general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-16 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Please relay to the devs that this utility is dangerous, and needs the ability to scan the system for stuff that cannot be interrupted, and exit quietly if it finds one of the un-interruptables running. The instant example is an arm system, and it was running octoprint on a job