Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Camaleón :) Have you considered using NNTP? No, I need to read the Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol since I never heard of those 4 letters before :D. Thanx, Ralf PS: Please carbon copy ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Camaleón
is :-) PS: Please carbon copy ;) Sorry, I can't (side effect of posting to a newsgroup). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan

Re: Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-5ae4-4e07-aac5-c41967b5e...@queernet.orggt;amp;Subject=Re:%20Re: posting (was: Threading)debian-user@lists.debian.org/a -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: posting

2011-06-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! Most people don't treat a digest as

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote: On 21/06/11 23:29, Camaleón wrote:

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: On 22/06/11 21:53,

Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/06/11 17:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 06:45 +, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: On 23/06/11 00:01, lee wrote: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: On 22/06/11 21:53, Camaleón wrote:

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
. Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? Maybe it works for you in Evolution Ralf - but for me in Icedove you've just made a(nother) complelling argument for NOT replying to Digest messages. For Evolution it usually isn't

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
the thread. Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? It no longer is part of the thread in threaded view with Icedove (or Thunderbird). *Likewise, in the online version (see In-reply-to):- http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 06/23/2011 07:28 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/06/11 18:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? It no longer is part of the thread in threaded view with Icedove (or Thunderbird). *Likewise

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... You could just ask the person Since he´s following

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? Yes, your threading is broken, and you need to learn how to post. See, for example, [1] and [2] and [3]. We have some options here: 1

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Wtf. This thread is just beyond confusing now. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? Yes, your

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 iun 11, 10:14:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It doesn't happen that often and usually for this list. If standards are that important, GNU mailman would be the better choice to avoid issues. What standards are broken by SmartList? (exact RFC please) Debian isn't fine with Firefox and

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? Yes, your threading is broken, and you

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:44:57 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Don't blame me! Blame the way Debian digest is formatted. It's neither my, nor Evolutions fault, when the digest is bad formatted. This problem is endemic to digests. Googlemail threads on conversations which do indeed go by the subject

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Resp. the issue is that the mails are not inline for Debian digest. For GNU mailman Digest the mails are inline. Perhaps it would be an idea to change this for Debian digest to inline too. Note! Computers are made to fit to users workflows, users aren't born to fit to computers workflows. Using

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:17:00 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. some people who recommend that I should use another mailer got issues with signs ;), such as this one: ó As I just said, I don't care what email client you chose to use or who is to blame for what. Find a list whose policies accord

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:44:57PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Re: posting Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1198 instead of Re: posting is breaking the thread? Yes, your threading is broken, and you need to learn how

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
As already mentioned by others, there are mail clients able to deal with SmartList's digests. Do yourself a favor and use one of them if you're so attached to digests (instead of normal subscription). Perhaps I have a bad day ;), so I'll stop reading here. (Sorry, I miss other replies

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Mike McClain
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:17:01PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: Wtf. This thread is just beyond confusing now. Cal, you wrote 2 lines but posted +150, trim please. I subscribe to the digest and reply to it using mutt and 'L' rather than 'r'. I'm just curious if this

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:52:33 Mike McClain wrote: I'm just curious if this breaks the thread Not in KMail. It is threaded correctly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Perhaps I have a bad day ;), so I'll stop reading here. (Sorry, I miss other replies doing this) Aaargh, pardon, broken English ... I didn't read other following replies regarding to this thread, by the current Debian digest, so I might have missed something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Not being funny but, both Thunderbird and Google mail auto trim the emails for me... If your mail client can't support that, then sucks to be you? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Mike McClain mike.j...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 06:17:01PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread lee
from the wrong post: , | OA ( 126) [Ralf Mardorf ] 'Re: posting | :R+- ( 164) [Scott Ferguson ] ' | :R| \- ( 49) [Eduardo M KALINOWSKI ] ' | :R+- ( 146) [- debian-u...@lists.de] ' | :R| \- ( 369) [Cal Leeming [Simplicity] ' | :R\- ( 78) [Andrei

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:12:49PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: Not being funny but, both Thunderbird and Google mail auto trim the emails for me... If your mail client can't support that, then sucks to be you? Interesting. How do they know what you don't want to include

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/23/11 at 10:14am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 17:39 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/06/11 17:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO Digest should be for replies too, not only to lurk the list. You can read the archive if you only would like to lurk. While in your opinion

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/06/11 03:17, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: Wtf. This thread is just beyond confusing now. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de mailto:l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
email message attachment Forwarded Message From: Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: posting Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:49:19 +0100 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:44:57PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard

Re: posting

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Furie
and try my best to fix the issue, but sorry everybody, I won't waste time by reading more replies regarding to posting. I STOP READING AND REPLYING TO THIS THREAD [...] I appreciate that you're trying to fix the issue, but I think you're approaching it from the wrong angle. Although since you've

posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-22 Thread lee
. And I am in absolute agreement with you! Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... But then - I also believe if someone top posts there *is* something wrong. Likewise posting in HTML. Or posting to the list

Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-22 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! Most people don't treat a digest as separate from a list, just an

Re: posting

2011-06-22 Thread lee
Roger B.A. Klorese rog...@queernet.org writes: On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! They get all the

Re: posting

2011-06-22 Thread Chris Brennan
they desire. -- Chris Brennan -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C

Re: posting

2011-06-22 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: Perhaps the digest can be turned into an mbox file without too much effort, like just stripping the headers of the container-message, and thus be treated as if the subscriber received the mailing list not as a digest but as single messages? Some MUAs can do just that. -- John

Re: posting

2011-06-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
, and threading by subject line, work. Not to provide a forensics trail for the anally retentive. But then - I also believe if someone top posts there *is* something wrong. Likewise posting in HTML. Or posting to the list because they are unable to do something, but then insisting on rudely declaring

Re: posting

2011-06-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/06/11 00:05, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote: Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest messages rather than just subscribing to the list ... So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?! Most people don't

Re: Issues posting to this list, my apologies.

2011-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 21:07 -0500, Mike Mestnik wrote: So sorry for posting the same thing more then once, I kept getting a DSN like this: Whomever runs this should include a message ID or something more then the subject in the response because I can't discover what email didn't make

Re: Issues posting to this list, my apologies.

2011-06-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The email you sent to debian-user@lists.debian.org was rejected because there was a validation error. In order for emails to be accepted by debianHELP: - They must be sent in reply to a valid notification email. - The reply must be done from the same

Re: Issues posting to this list, my apologies.

2011-06-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 01 iun 11, 15:48:31, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The email you sent to debian-user@lists.debian.org was rejected because there was a validation error. In order for emails to be accepted by debianHELP: - They must be sent in reply to a valid

Issues posting to this list, my apologies.

2011-05-31 Thread Mike Mestnik
So sorry for posting the same thing more then once, I kept getting a DSN like this: Whomever runs this should include a message ID or something more then the subject in the response because I can't discover what email didn't make it(if any) to the list. Original Message Subject

What's not cross-posting... (was Re: Adding a bootloader to a Windows partition image)

2011-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 03/06/2011 01:38 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] A message I wrote in reply to a question on the Kubuntu list may be of some help. The message is called Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 and does not actually install Windows to /dev/sda4, but to /sdb1. And it's XP, not 98. Anyway, since it is frowned on to

Re: What's not cross-posting... (was Re: Adding a bootloader to a Windows partition image)

2011-03-06 Thread Doug
On 03/06/2011 03:07 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2011 01:38 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] A message I wrote in reply to a question on the Kubuntu list may be of some help. The message is called Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 and does not actually install Windows to /dev/sda4, but to /sdb1. And it's XP,

Re: What's not cross-posting... (was Re: Adding a bootloader to a Windows partition image)

2011-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 03/06/2011 02:21 AM, Doug wrote: On 03/06/2011 03:07 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2011 01:38 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] A message I wrote in reply to a question on the Kubuntu list may be of some help. The message is called Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 and does not actually install Windows to

Re: What's not cross-posting... (was Re: Adding a bootloader to a Windows partition image)

2011-03-06 Thread Doug
On 03/06/2011 05:12 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2011 02:21 AM, Doug wrote: /snip/ since it is frowned on to cross-post, I will tell you that the message was posted 03/06/2011 at 12:28 AM, so you can look for it there. (The earlier post was by Jerry Lapham at 03/05/2011 at 8:14 PM. He

Re: What's not cross-posting... (was Re: Adding a bootloader to a Windows partition image)

2011-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 03/06/2011 02:53 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/06/2011 05:12 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2011 02:21 AM, Doug wrote: /snip/ since it is frowned on to cross-post, I will tell you that the message was posted 03/06/2011 at 12:28 AM, so you can look for it there. (The earlier post was by Jerry

Re: [OT] Users posting to the wrong list (was: DNS (BIND)primario y secundario)

2010-03-08 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:55:54 +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:21:48 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Camaleón put forth on 3/3/2010 8:50 AM: Stan, please, let's calm down. I'll try again to contact Cosme and explain him the situation. I don't think he is fully aware of his

[OT] Users posting to the wrong list (was: DNS (BIND)primario y secundario)

2010-03-04 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:21:48 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Camaleón put forth on 3/3/2010 8:50 AM: Stan, please, let's calm down. I'll try again to contact Cosme and explain him the situation. I don't think he is fully aware of his fault, in fact, rarely replies to other people's advices in

[OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera
Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2- Evitar el top-posting 3- Evitar los

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Enzo Cappa
On Mar 01 Dic 2009 14:16:16 JAP escribió: Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Estimados nuevos (o newbies, si prefieren el inglés). Son todos bienvenidos a hacer cualquier tipo de pregunta en esta lista, siempre y cuando vuestras preguntas cumplan estos requisitos: Se note que hayan leído las “netiquettes”, o normas de convivencias. Si no lo hicieron, háganlo en

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera
JAP escribió: Y por si a alguien le queda dudas, http://download.bblug.usla.org.ar/netiquette.png JAP Jajajajajajajajajajajajajaja :) :) :) s...@lu2 Walber -- JHS/o +-===| (o_ //\Linux Registered User V_/_ #480598 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\

¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread santilin
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Re: ¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
2009/3/30, santilin sa...@gestiong.org: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org wikipedia es tu amiga ;) http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Env

Re: ¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread Alberto Vicat
santilin escribió: Top-posting es contestar arriba del mensaje respondido en vez de abajo, cosa que hace incómoda la lectura: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting Cross-posting es preguntar lo mismo en varias listas, lo que ocasiona cierta mescolanza cuando alguien responde: http

Re: mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-29 Thread Christofer C. Bell
2009/3/28 Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:48:10AM EDT, Chris Bannister wrote: I was asking one of the top-posting advocates to elaborate on archaic mail readers .. written in the 1980s .. I believe he wrote.. I would assume he is not using one himself

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:30:15PM +, Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:06:11 +1300, Chris Bannister (mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz) wrote: [...] It was mentioned that inline posting and deleting unnecessary text is a better method, but that was shrugged off as being too

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:48:26AM EDT, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:11:38PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: Now then.. I have two bottom posters .. and one top poster.. OK. What do I do? Snip out the irrelevant bits. Do you use vim as your editor? If so you can put a

Re: mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Jones
is using if you put in your .muttrc: I was asking one of the top-posting advocates to elaborate on archaic mail readers .. written in the 1980s .. I believe he wrote.. I would assume he is not using one himself .. but then who knows.. - # What headers are displayed ignore * unignore From

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:04:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. No. You obviously should middle post as I have done here: find the median line and insert your comments is the center of it, splitting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:43:28AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. Then, of course, it follows that not posting at all is ideal. I *should* have said: Without triming bottom posting

mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:08:35PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: What mailer are you referring to? I use mutt and it threads messages reliably, flagging malformed mails that it adds to a thread when it You can see what mailer he is using if you put in your .muttrc: - # What headers are

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:11:38PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: Now then.. I have two bottom posters .. and one top poster.. OK. What do I do? Snip out the irrelevant bits. Do you use vim as your editor? If so you can put a number before the 'dd' command: 40dd will delete 40 lines. -- Chris.

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent too much time using Windows. Or who reads

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-24 07:06, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:06:11 +1300, Chris Bannister (mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz) wrote: [...] It was mentioned that inline posting and deleting unnecessary text is a better method, but that was shrugged off as being too confusing. :o So in that situation I was happier[2] seeing a silly

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,24.Mar.09, 13:30:15, Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:06:11 +1300, Chris Bannister (mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz) wrote: [...] It was mentioned that inline posting and deleting unnecessary text is a better method, but that was shrugged off as being too confusing. :o So

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com mailto:dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting such a bad

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Jesus Arocho
; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after a meal, etc, Hmmm. Manners or No Manners; it's an easy choice. Bottom posting of course

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 22 March 2009 23:07:29 Dave Patterson wrote: * Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [2009-03-22 20:34:50 -0500]: That's hyperbole, at the very least. The original Pentium was released on March 22, 1993. 3 1/2 disks had been available for a while. While the first GB disk

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net mailto:ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: ... A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Barclay, Daniel
or one? If it's one: That's a good example of bottom posting (quoting what's being replied to (got my fax?) for context about the reply (got it). If it's two: How can you argue that there's no need for context? Without context, when someone writes Yeah, got it..., how can the recipient know which

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Mail 4: A: Because it messes up the order in which people

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 143f0f6c0903230837k4d6bc8a5r55fe985e82993...@mail.gmail.com, Christofer C. Bell wrote: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Top-posting. What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Top-posting. Why is top-posting such a bad thing? What

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
.. all parties know what the fax is about.. Does that example represent two message or one? If it's one: That's a good example of bottom posting (quoting what's being replied to (got my fax?) for context about the reply (got it). If it's two: How can you argue that there's no need

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:37:21AM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
' messages to my Possible SPAM folder, which I don't check until after I've read the rest of the my mail. When everyone has included relevant context (and not too much of it) the discussion is still easy to follow. The most common arguments for bottom-posting are based on the mail reader people

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 12:27, Jesus Arocho wrote: Hee, Hee; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after a meal, etc, Hmmm

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:09:29AM -0700, Angus Auld wrote: [snipped **H E A P S** of unnecessary text] Proof reading might also be a good idea, as is evidenced by my mistakenly saying that top-posting is the established method here. ;) Bottom-posting of course is the prevailing method

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:09:29AM -0700, Angus Auld wrote: [snipped **H E A P S** of unnecessary text] Proof reading might also be a good idea, as is evidenced by my mistakenly saying that top-posting is the established method here. ;) Bottom

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent too much time using Windows

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Jesus Arocho
Hee, Hee; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after a meal, etc, Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-22 12:27, Jesus Arocho wrote: Hee, Hee; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after a meal, etc, Hmmm. Manners or No Manners

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. Then, of course, it follows that not posting at all is ideal. -- Bob Holtzman Light a man's fire and he will be warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Chris Jones
-posting such a bad thing? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Your example looks like this in a threaded mail reader: doesn't mean everyone else has to be. ;-) which, incidentally, support HTML email). Because *you* are a curmudgeon ago. ;-) Top

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:18:44 Ron Johnson wrote: The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after a meal, etc, Hmmm.  Manners or No Manners; it's an easy choice. No - the poster has a valid point. Both the cases he cites are cases where

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:52:54 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. No. You obviously should middle post as I have done here: find the median line and insert your comments is the center of it, splitting a word if necessary. Bob Holtzman writes: Then, of course

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:52:54 -0500 Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote: ... This isn't true. Come enter the 21st Century, it started nearly a decade ago. ;-) Top posting works well in a modern threaded mail reader (all of which, incidentally, support HTML email). Because

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-22 11:52, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:27:13 -0400 Jesus Arocho jesus_aro...@comcast.net wrote: Hee, Hee; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off the table, burp/not burp after

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Wendell Cochran
In non-tech lists, top-posting suggests that the writer is (a) unaware that Westerners read from top down, or (b) unable to edit plain text. Or both. Debian-users ought not wish to appear so inconsiderate incompetent. Wendell Cochran West Seattle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread MList
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:04:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. No. You obviously should middle post as I have done here: find the median ROTF line and insert your comments is the center of it, splitting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-22 14:28, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:27:13 -0400 Jesus Arocho jesus_aro...@comcast.net wrote: Hee, Hee; are you trying to humiliate people into using bottom posting by associating them with use of Windows? The debate of top/bottom posting is much alike elbows on/off

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-22 14:32, Wendell Cochran wrote: In non-tech lists, top-posting suggests that the writer is (a) unaware that Westerners read from top down, or (b) unable to edit plain text. Or both. Debian-users ought not wish to appear so inconsiderate incompetent. Or... only technically-astute

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Or... only technically-astute people should be allowed on the Internet. That way, it doesn't degenerate into the Intarweb of tubes and spam. I remember the days before 1994 and the Great AOL Floodgates opening... --

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/3/23 Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com: This isn't true.  Come enter the 21st Century, it started nearly a decade ago. ;-)  Top posting works well in a modern threaded mail reader (all of which, incidentally, support HTML email).  Because *you* are a curmudgeon doesn't mean

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net [2009-03-22 16:06:06 -0500]: Except that Our arguments are Right, and Theirs are Eeeevil. Here we go. I can imagine the hearings now: Are you now, or have you ever been, a top poster? -- Dave signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com [2009-03-22 16:24:52 -0500]: I remember the days before 1994 and the Great AOL Floodgates opening... A 286 accelerator card in an 8086 IBM with a 20 Mg hard drive and 5 1/4 floppy drive. 56k modem. Hotrod machine for the day. I don't miss

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