Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-29 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Karen Lewellen, 26.06.2012: > Hi Lici, > That was the nicest way to say...get to the point! > Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others. > I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here. > In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area? I

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi lisi, Thank you! what your post shows, and what I honestly stopped trying to express is this. There is no such thing as a so called one size fits all blind user. Like every single aspect of the human experience, sight loss is a 100% individual thing. Just like sight presence. to claim that

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-26 Thread Lisi
Hi, Julien! On Wednesday 13 June 2012 20:42:04 Julien Claassen wrote: > Debian has much more to offer to me as a blnd > user and it's more stable. :-) +1 Much better also for a partially sighted user. I use Lenny with KDE 3.5.10, which is highly configurable, and I have configured it for me!

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Lici, That was the nicest way to say...get to the point! Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others. I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here. In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area? I always say now, since the displayed a

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-26 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 19:55:19 Julien Claassen wrote: > Knoppix did support blind users as well. There is Vinux, which is a Debian > version specially compiled for blind users. Julien - Vinux is based on Ubuntu, not Debian, and I do not like it. I am partially sighted, not fully blind, but

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-26 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 02:47:37 Karen Lewellen wrote: > Rob, > I do not work in most popular, because this may or may not mean most > accessible from a screen reading standpoint, or more flexible from a > usability standpoint...in my personal dictionary, there is no such thing > as "most people.

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:32:56 +1000, Scott wrote in message <4fd9a1b8.9050...@gmail.com>: > On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message > > <4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com>: > > > >> On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: > >>> On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Brian
On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:28:31 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 14/06/12 01:45, Curt wrote: > > > and once an "expert" you may choose Squeeze as the target distribution. > > after choosing the mirrors module during the load installer components > from cd option (expert mode). Won't work with a

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Brian
On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:17:59 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/06/12 19:29, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > >> On 13/06/12 04:35, a troll wrote: > >>> > >>> By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image > >>> or the

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 17:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be >> supported > > Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97? Post 1997 - yes (funny that) AC is just Intel's "standard" (v1 -

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message > <4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com>: > >> On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: >>> On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in messag

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 17:46, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> > > I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse. Indeed. Best try and stay sane. If you don't you'd be snide, curmudgeonly, and nuts. Which would make you some sort of a snack bar. You can see the problem right there

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 17:24, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> >> Claim? Hey - if I made a "claim" (actually just agreed with the OPs information) what sort of specious allegation do we label the d-i and speakup developers claims? HINT: I believe it involves inciting jaywalking and w

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> I may be assuming wrong, > > No. But don't let that stop you from being snide. > I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: >> >> Technical evidence that inside the Wheezy installer, in expert mode, >> prior to partitioning, but after choosing a mirror of the Debian >> archive, the installer asks which release you wish to install, at which >> point you may choose Squeeze? > > I have presen

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Claim? Well, there's that other guy trying desperately to find "technical evidence" against your "empircal data," so I employed a word I hoped would demonstrate my scientific objectivity in the matter. > curmudgeonly - says nothing of me, speaks volumes o

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be > supported Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97? It's supported by ALSA. BIOS settings might need a check up, dunno. Google found hits regarding to issues with pulse

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 15:46, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message > : >> but there is only so much possible WITH this present box, Provided you have at least 128MB of RAM there's not much *non-graphical* "desktop-type" tasks that you *cannot* do. >> its

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message : > oh my...what have I started? ..nobody told you what happens when you toss lighted matches down gas tank holes? Hint, it's usually audible. ;o) > put a creative challenge to this bunch and the ideas flow. > *however* > I have

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 02:14, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> IIRC it was Scott? who does exactly mentioned this in his kindly >> style :D. Options could have sub-options. - Ralf >> > > Yes, I was replying to Brian's inquiry concerning Scott's > claim that one can install Squeeze usin

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/06/12 01:45, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: >> >> I don't see what you do. Is this a bug in my installer? > > He said prior to partitioning so I assume once you get into the partitioning > dialogue, the installer gives you the opportunity to choose an "expert" > install, The in

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/06/12 19:29, Brian wrote: > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 13/06/12 04:35, a troll wrote: >>> >>> By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image >>> or the first CD the base files (Stable or Testing versions) have been >>> instal

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Whit Hansell
Karen, I believe I can help you but am asking if it's ok to contact you off list to discuss. I also have a vision problem so am somewhat aware of your difficulty. Just reply to the list or to me private and I'll do what I can to get you up and running and learning Debian. Regards, Whit Hansell

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 23:17:49 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:14 +, Curt wrote: > > The technical evidence is in the empirical data referenced in the article > > of an experienced, regular user of this list. > > I only skim the text and my English is terrible broken. I'

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:14 +, Curt wrote: > The technical evidence is in the empirical data referenced in the article > of an experienced, regular user of this list. I only skim the text and my English is terrible broken. I'm sure that what ever Scott has written is correct. From memory my un

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:14 +, Curt wrote: > > The technical evidence is in the empirical data referenced in the article > > of an experienced, regular user of this list. > > I only skim the text and my English is terrible broken. I'm su

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 20:14:35 +, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > > > The one and only way to counter what I have been saying is to present > > some technical evidence rather than deal in non-sequiturs. I may also > > have misunderstood your post prior to this one, in which case

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 21:02 +0100, keith wrote: > Only security updates will then need an internet connection. That's not true, I suspect that there are many special tasks that need Internet access. I only can speak for real real-time, such as CNC (not using myself) and pro-audio (currently no sta

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I'm confused and to lazy to re-read and re-translate all mails again :p. > > So I did misunderstood it? :D > We might have in a trivial way. The question is whether it's possible to install squeeze from a wheezy netinstall.iso, or vice-versa. -- To UNS

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > The one and only way to counter what I have been saying is to present > some technical evidence rather than deal in non-sequiturs. I may also > have misunderstood your post prior to this one, in which case you may > point out my mistake. > Technical evidence that in

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread keith
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:22 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Not that it matters now, it seems simplest to find a squeeze cd and hppe > I > can combine installing from both the cd and the external dvd. > Which brings up another question, if I have all of the dvd images, do not > I have all of

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Julien Claassen
From what I remember, Ubuntu in this case is better than a pure Debian, if you need the graphics. If you don't: Debian has much more to offer to me as a blnd user and it's more stable. :-) Best wishes Julien =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable; Free And Jubil

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:43 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 20:26:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:04 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 15:45:07 +, Curt wrote: > > > > I may be assuming wrong, but that's how I understood what he said > > >

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Julien Claassen
Sorry for the haste! Ubuntu seems to be a good alternative. I certainly have seen it mentioned a couple of times on the Orca mailinglist. Warm regards Julien =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable; Free And Jubilating Amazement Revels, Dancing On - FLOWERS!

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Julien Claassen
Hi! Harsh words Ralf. :-) OK, I never installed Debian myself using the install disks. But a friend did it. Debian does support blidn users. I don't know about the graphical install exactly, since we prefer the text based version. But I think they might. There is an Orca package for Debian

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Julien Claassen
Hey again! Not sure about Ubuntu studio, it depends on how much it is based on Ubuntu. Can't you stack up on the special Ubuntu Studio packages, once you've installed a normal Ubuntu? I have the feeling, that a friend of mine recently did so. Regards Julien =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
Actually, and I am putting one answer here for more than one post in an effort to save clutter. where I sought to interrupt the installer as Sam detailed was prior to the network install section, there are network cards in the machine, but no connection. I found no reference to the archive mir

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 21:13 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote: > Hey again! >Not sure about Ubuntu studio, it depends on how much it is based on > Ubuntu. > Can't you stack up on the special Ubuntu Studio packages, once you've > installed a normal Ubuntu? I have the feeling, that a friend of mine

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:43 +0100, Brian wrote: > > "Language is a virus from outer space" > > I cannot find your quote in the Bible or the Guardian. Laurie Anderson. Since she is an academic, it must be truth ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:56 +0200, Julien Claassen wrote: > Sorry for the haste! >Ubuntu seems to be a good alternative. I certainly have seen it mentioned > a > couple of times on the Orca mailinglist. Hmm, I suspect Ubuntu Studio doesn't support braille for the install. On Wed, 2012-06-13

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 18:42:58 +, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > > >> I may be assuming wrong, but that's how I understood what he said (in > >> his rather curmudgeonly style). > > > > You've omitted the prefix 'mis' in this sentence. > > > > You've neglected correcting the rec

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:14:16 +0200, Ralf wrote in message <1339611256.8093.31.camel@precise>: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:04 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..in my (grub legacy) experience > > Pff, you prefer grub legacy too? ..only when I get stuck with v2. ;o) > I'm using GRUB legacy myself,

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:59:19 +0200, Ralf wrote in message <1339610359.8093.26.camel@precise>: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:44 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > [snip] > > Since I mentioned already that 30GB aren't that much today and Arnt > also didn't explain why, I feel the need to explain what at le

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Curt wrote: >> >> You've omitted the prefix 'mis' in this sentence. >> > > You've neglected correcting the rectal-cranial inversion from which you > so cruelly suffer. > Actually I've now reread Scott's article and I agree that I did in fact misunderstand what he was on about, and

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
oh my...what have I started? put a creative challenge to this bunch and the ideas flow. *however* I have the equipment I have for this project, no more, so will need the the knowledgable human first with extra if I am going to spend energy this way. Honestly, I remain amazed, but there is only so

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 14:34 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi, > Really? on the radio production with whom did / do you file? I'm 45 ½ years old and started professional video and audio engineering in the age of 16. Last time I made radio is years ago and it wasn't professional. I did it with Kla

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, Karen, Have you contacted U of Toronto for help with your problem? From the outside, the university seems to be on the cutting edge of technology and linux development. Not sure even who to start with over there. Can you share a link supporting your feelings? I hunted for a debian

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: >> I may be assuming wrong, but that's how I understood what he said (in >> his rather curmudgeonly style). > > You've omitted the prefix 'mis' in this sentence. > You've neglected correcting the rectal-cranial inversion from which you so cruelly suffer. -- To UNSU

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 20:26:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:04 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 15:45:07 +, Curt wrote: > > > I may be assuming wrong, but that's how I understood what he said > > > You've omitted the prefix 'mis' in this sentence. > > I

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:22 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..knoppix is a good way towards Debian. Can Debian Installer > > match it for blind people? > > Is the OP visually impaired, blind, a dyslexic or just to lazy to read > or what eve

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:22 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..knoppix is a good way towards Debian. Can Debian Installer > match it for blind people? Is the OP visually impaired, blind, a dyslexic or just to lazy to read or what ever? I don't know why she likes or needs a screen reader. It's not im

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, Really? on the radio production with whom did / do you file? For the record, I have the structure for high speed, even in dos. google the ssh2021b package for example. More detail than you need, but my structure is tied up in a legal complaint with a provider here in Canada who is at fault

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:04 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 15:45:07 +, Curt wrote: > > I may be assuming wrong, but that's how I understood what he said > You've omitted the prefix 'mis' in this sentence. I "mis"understood it in the same way. "Language is a virus from outer spac

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:14:16 -0400, Mark wrote in message <201206130514.16720.m...@neidorff.com>: > On Tuesday 12 June 2012 5:55:21 pm Karen Lewellen wrote: > > ...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. > > Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:04 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..in my (grub legacy) experience Pff, you prefer grub legacy too? I'm using GRUB legacy myself, but I suspect newbies need to be able to handle GRUB 2 when installing most common distros?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 18:30:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 16:14 +, Curt wrote: > > > > Yes, I was replying to Brian's inquiry concerning Scott's > > claim that one can install Squeeze using the Wheezy installer. > > I guess Scott holds the water and there will be an o

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
Brian, understood. i did mention to the author at the time that his description was a bit vague, the text I shared is the result of his being more clear. In any case, the best course of action is likely different as you say. Karen On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Brian wrote: On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 17:5

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 15:45:07 +, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > > > > I don't see what you do. Is this a bug in my installer? > > He said prior to partitioning so I assume once you get into the partitioning > dialogue, the installer gives you the opportunity to choose an "exper

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message <4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com>: > On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message > >> <20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop>: > >

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:44 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] Since I mentioned already that 30GB aren't that much today and Arnt also didn't explain why, I feel the need to explain what at least is my guess: A packages contains packed, compressed data, that means, that as soon as it's "enpacked"

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:47:37 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message : > but I am working with very limited information, and have more than > enough room on the 30gig hard > drive I am using for all of the packages. ..oh yeah? ;o) root@celsius:~# du -sch /usr /boot/ /bin/ /etc/ /li* /sbin /var/li

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> PS: I won an iPad, I really know what I'm talking about. The iPad is a > PITA and the Win XP SP2 running on Arch Linux virtual box is a PITA too. > Yes, for me Linux is a PITA too, but this pain is nothing compared to > App$e and M$. I'm running VBox + XP to handle the iPad2, for nothing else,

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 16:14 +, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > IIRC it was Scott? who does exactly mentioned this in his kindly > > style :D. Options could have sub-options. - Ralf > > > > Yes, I was replying to Brian's inquiry concerning Scott's > claim that one can

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > IIRC it was Scott? who does exactly mentioned this in his kindly > style :D. Options could have sub-options. - Ralf > Yes, I was replying to Brian's inquiry concerning Scott's claim that one can install Squeeze using the Wheezy installer. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:45 +, Curt wrote: > On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > > > > I don't see what you do. Is this a bug in my installer? > > He said prior to partitioning so I assume once you get into the partitioning > dialogue, the installer gives you the opportunity to choose an "expert"

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-13, Brian wrote: > > I don't see what you do. Is this a bug in my installer? He said prior to partitioning so I assume once you get into the partitioning dialogue, the installer gives you the opportunity to choose an "expert" install, and once an "expert" you may choose Squeeze as the

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:27:22 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > PLoP will also allow you to boot from a CD/DVD that's not supported by > the BIOS (pre-1998 BIOS) Plop claims not be able to boot a USB CD/DVD drive: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/full.html#l_usbinfo However, with a bit of ing

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:29 +0100, Brian wrote: > > The OP has all the Squeeze CD/DVDs... why on earth do they need to > > connect to the internet? > > As is made clear in this thread - she doesn't and it would not benefit > her. Since she's willing to install 40 media players, because she's inte

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/06/12 04:35, Brian wrote: > > > > By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image > > or the first CD the base files (Stable or Testing versions) have been > > installed in /target. > > Instead of just h

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-13 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 5:55:21 pm Karen Lewellen wrote: > ...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. > Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of all the > wisdom shared here today. > Karen, Have you contacted U of Toronto for help with your problem

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS, OT: I preferred Xfce, but the more up to date Xfce is, the more serious issues do appear on my machine. For Debian stable Xfce still should be reliable, but for current Ubuntu and Arch I experience it as a PITA at the moment. GNOME2 is very good, but even if it should be provided by stable (dun

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Karen :) I suspect that 30GB won't be enough space to install all packages from all DVDs. Btw. I was a musician too and I was a radio producer too and there's still DR DOS for my Atari's 80286 hardware emulator installed. I guess that having those less things in common I still can forecast that

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Karen Lewellen
Rob, I do not work in most popular, because this may or may not mean most accessible from a screen reading standpoint, or more flexible from a usability standpoint...in my personal dictionary, there is no such thing as "most people." I am using pure dos on my main computer for example, having

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/06/12 04:35, Brian wrote: > On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 21:53:03 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 12/06/12 20:01, Brian wrote: >>> >>> Aren't the kernel and base packages ones from Testing? >> >> Only if you choose to install Testing (it's at the choose repository >> stage of the install) >> >

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 06:51:31PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > fourth, unless there is a list? somewhere of what packages are on > which image, I do not want to guess from the installer, which is > why I why install all I have before picking and choosing the first > time out. I have heard that

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: > On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message >> <20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop>: >> >>> The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she >>> wishes to install Debian

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Karen Lewellen
Brian, all: First the amount of creative thinking I have read regarding my situation simply cements for me why the debian community has earned the reputation it has. I am floored honestly, and will be starting a "best edition of debian for dummies book> thread shortly smiles. Still Brian has t

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 17:55:21 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > ...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. > Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of all the > wisdom shared here today. Please abandon any idea of being able to install Squeeze using a

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-12 Thread Karen Lewellen
...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of all the wisdom shared here today. On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, keith wrote: @ Karen Lewellen Asa replacement, the testing images (i.e. Wheezy) can be downloaded fr

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message > <20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop>: > > > The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she > > wishes to install Debian to. > > ..she can. She must put gru

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 21:53:03 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/06/12 20:01, Brian wrote: > > > > Aren't the kernel and base packages ones from Testing? > > Only if you choose to install Testing (it's at the choose repository > stage of the install) > > You can install testing using the sta

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message <20120612100122.GJ30016@desktop>: > The DVD is a USB device. She cannot boot from USB on the machine she > wishes to install Debian to. ..she can. She must put grub on her hard disk, or get e.g. the http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ on a cd

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/12 20:01, Brian wrote: > On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 19:29:30 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> *Yes - you can install Squeeze using Wheezy*, despite what some have >> claimed it doesn't require downgrading from Wheezy as no Wheezy packages >> are ever installed (the ability is nothing new to D

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-12 Thread keith
@ Karen Lewellen > Asa replacement, the testing images (i.e. Wheezy) can be > downloaded from > ]http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer , and when given the > archive mirror choice, type '<' to get back to main menu, change > the > priority to lowest, enter the mirror selecti

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 19:29:30 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > *Yes - you can install Squeeze using Wheezy*, despite what some have > claimed it doesn't require downgrading from Wheezy as no Wheezy packages > are ever installed (the ability is nothing new to Debian). > them to yours. Aren't the ke

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-12 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Jun 2012 at 18:11:26 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: [Snip] > I must start with the cd, its the only way to boot. If you have the means to burn a Squeeze netinst iso to CD on your other computer that would be the most straightforward, in spite of the pain of downloading it (about 200 MB)

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/12 12:57, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I agree on changing the subject line, especially since Richard also > removed the on point question. > As for avoiding the post containing the information I got regarding > changing the boot priorities and installing squeeze instead of wheezy > from the de

Re: the information I got, was unique install question? [Clarify your needs]

2012-06-11 Thread ACro
Hello Karen > Images for squeeze with software speech can be downloaded from > http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/espeakup/ but they don't seem > to be working any more due to kernel update in the official archive. > As a replacement, the testing images (i.e. Wheezy) can be downloaded > from htt

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
since the context gets lost, because not everybody does follow the whole thread. I guess you'll get more response within the day, if you avoid subjects such as "the information I got, was unique install question? [Clarify your needs]". Best, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
formation I got, was unique install question? [Clarify your needs]". Best, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339467541.3441.6.camel@oz.(null)

the information I got, was unique install question? [Clarify your needs]

2012-06-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
PS: Thread was and is "unique install question?" ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339462777.3015.53.camel@precise -

Re: unique install question? [Clarify your needs]

2012-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 19:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > For either case, do you have high speed internet access? The OP doesn't have any Internet access for the computer where Debian should be installed. - Ralf PS: Thread was and is "unique install question?" ;).

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 08:24:29PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi, > first, the test image of wheezy came with software speech installed, > which is why I wanted it. > second, it took me a year to find anyone who could create these > images for me. and I cannot burn the stable squeeze cd myself,

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Karen :) if possible sent to the list only, don't CC instead and please switch from top to bottom post. On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 20:24 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi, > first, the test image of wheezy came with software speech installed, which > is why I wanted it. Do you want a special spee

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, first, the test image of wheezy came with software speech installed, which is why I wanted it. second, it took me a year to find anyone who could create these images for me. and I cannot burn the stable squeeze cd myself, no means as my main computer only has dialup. Agreed, had I not been

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/06/12 06:11 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, I just joined the list last evening. I have a very unusual install issue with debian, frankly wish there was someone local to Toronto to help, but perhaps I can get enough wisdom here to solve the problem. I will be as detailed as I can, feel

Re: unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 18:11 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > [snip] > Here is the situation. > I have a complete set of squeeze images in DVD, I do mean complete. > I have no network connection in the computer I am installing debian on, so > wish to install all of these images, so as not to need to

unique install question?

2012-06-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi all, I just joined the list last evening. I have a very unusual install issue with debian, frankly wish there was someone local to Toronto to help, but perhaps I can get enough wisdom here to solve the problem. I will be as detailed as I can, feel free to ask though if you need to know more.